Sarah Palin's Disturbing Connections to Dominionist Groups

hmmm..very interesting!

I will check this out. Good find.

You should take a look at my latest my post, since I found a pretty interesting article myself.

10, by the way..

She's so far right she makes Bush look like a moderate. Apparently McCain's going for the wingnut vote.

I couldn't agree more, Wilma!

Having experienced that kind of religious zeal in my younger years, I do not discount the compelling power of it. We had to extract ourselves out of it and it took years to repair and bring our lives into balance. To me, there is nothing to respect there. To many, who follow anyone spouting scripture, this could be attractive. Oh, how sad. I do believe we are a smarter nation than that.

Very interesting.

McCain did not want to pick Palin he wanted Lieberman but he was told no and was told to pick Palin which means he is still a slave to the neocons and their rule.

Do not think just because McCain is making such a fool out of himself that the republican neocons do not have an election surprise for us, they are going to try to rig the election or cause another terrorist attack or at least create several phony threats, look for bin Laden to show up on the front page of FOX news.

Bush and Cheney will also be missing at the convention which doesn't make any sense unless they are plotting while the public is distracted.

I keep hoping for a woman (preferably a mother , grandmother even better) to take the lead before i check out.

It is my believe that a true "MOTHER" can give our country the much needed love and care that the woman energy is.

Other wise a man (no matter what color) will continue the "Man" agenda of making money for his sponsoring corporations.

I pray that she is the one, cause Im running out of time.

very interesting and scary equally

targeting kids via "bait and switch" evangelism.

Most disturbing! Not only for kids, though. For all of us.

I guess McCain decided to be even more like Bush than we suspected.

Freddy, are you saying that you want to sacrifice this country and everyone you leave behind, just so you can selfishly see a woman in office before you die? That's insane.

My sister was involved in a similar group. She had to be rehabilitated in order to put her life back together after giving away everything she owned to the group. It is sad when people get taken in by these groups.

Yes, Jack, Bush and Cheney will be distracted because of Gustav. I think that they should considering the neglect they demonstrated when Katrina struck. We had a five day warning for that. FEMA could have been ready. It's interesting that Louisiana now has a Republican governor and they are at the ready.

Carla-
you pushed the right button to get me even more firmly into the anti-Palin camp. Dominionists baffle and outrage me more than just about any other group of American wackos.

All I can say is, we have to get the word out about this woman. There are so many people that are being misled--my brother is one of them.

Yup, that's scary. These people have roots all the way back to the "Jesus Movement" of the early '70s, and specifically to Hal Lindsey and The Late, Great Planet Earth. That somebody from this extremist camp would be a heartbeat from the presidency scares the willies out of me.

Scares the willies out of me, too, Roy. I hope you're working to get Obama elected.

Considering the fact that McCain wanted Lieberman and the party forced this woman on him in order to impress the working class, non-educated women, I think it is obvious that Sarah Palin isn't the problem. She is a symptom of the catastrophic disease known as the Republican Party, and she and McCain together are merely the sinus tracts through which that disease will infect all systems.

OOOoooOOoooOOO scary... heh Obama has his fair share of skeletons too. Its funny the things we find out about people when they are in the lime light. Glad I'm not in it... I have some old girlfriends that would tell some stories just to piss me off... haha

Lieberman is the ultimate neocon. If he got the nod you could be pretty sure we would be bombing Iran. Maybe we will anyway

I think there's a good possibility of that, brojer. War is always a good distraction. That, and fear.

Jason, if Obama has any skeletons of his own, they haven't come out yet. I think we all know they've scoured and would have found and used anything hanging in that closet. Instead, they've made up crap about him, tried to hold him responsible for adult siblings, and done everything short of trying to disqualify him for stepping in someone's flowerbed when he was in pre school. I think your vague, misleading comment is unfair.

The Democrats spend time vetting their candidates. The Republicans don't. Obviously.

How many more anti-Palin articles should I expect? And will all of them express essentially the same concerns, over and over and over and over and over again?

Oh, I like Sandy's comment about "no skeletons" in Obama's closet. She's right. Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, dual citizenship, and a racist wife aren't skeletons; they're living, breathing problems that still weigh on his judgment.

Vetting is typically a private endeavor done by a team of political analysts and advisors. You assume that because McCain didn't leak the entire process that it never happened. Some candidates know how to keep their mouths shut.

"Oh, I like Sandy's comment about "no skeletons" in Obama's closet. She's right. Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, dual citizenship, and a racist wife aren't skeletons; they're living, breathing problems that still weigh on his judgment. "

Great comment TJ! And I wonder how much George Soros is paying Wright, Jackson and Sharpton to behave themselves in this election year. Not a peep from this group, and I hear Wright has canned his planned book. Must be costing Soros mucho bucks!

I also hear that Palin doesn't use environmentally sensitive hair care products. More disturbing news!!!

She has a large family. Obviously, [gasp] she has.............sex!

"impress the working class, non-educated women," --Sandy Knauer.

Well clearly she hasn't impressed you, Sandy. Oh wait, you said "working class", sorry.

"Oh, I like Sandy's comment about "no skeletons" in Obama's closet. She's right. Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, dual citizenship, and a racist wife aren't skeletons; they're living, breathing problems that still weigh on his judgment."

What in the world are you talking about TJ? Didn't you read her post that all of that is just made up! LOL

Religion can be dangerous. Just ask Michael Moore and Don Fowler, both of them prayed for a hurricane to hit Louisiana, and well....

Lera, I love that little dog of yours! So precious!

By the way, after throwing his whole church under the bus, just how does the supreme, all knowing demigod, Obama worship now?

Obama worships himself.

Kay K. it appears that Sarah's 17 year-old daughter also has sex. :-)

Also, Kay, it wasn't Michael Moore praying for a hurricane. Get your facts straight. But it is a fact that James Dobson and his evangelicals were praying for a huge downpour during the Democratic Convention while Obama was speaking. You'd think that he might want to pray for important things like the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, the genocides and people starving in Darfur, etc. etc.

Kay? Get her facts straight? That would imply she didn'y believe the word "Fact" to be a foul, four-letter word...

Kay K. it appears that Sarah's 17 year-old daughter also has sex. :-)

It appears that Carla G. likes talking about teen sexuality.

You would also think that we have the good sense not to build a city in a bowl, but apparently we're not that bright.

Kay brought it up, TJ. Oh, and love that new icon. Very snappy. Did you put one on your bicycle too?

And my lunchbox.

Cool.

Are any of the neocons not dominionists? I've heard people here on Gather claim to be looking forward to Armageddon! They don't have an answer to what happens if Jesus decides that we made the mess, so we should clean it up. It's an article of faith with them that there will be divine intervention. I'm not sure if it's arrogance or stupidity, but it is terrifying because there are so many of them out there.

Ann, we get our values from the Judeo-Christian tradition, and you get yours from new age secular paganism. What's the beef?

Vague unfair comments.. do you really want me to get into the specifics? hahaha I'll mention one not mentioned much in the mainstream anymore.

Long before he ever ran for political office, Obama wrote a book about, well, himself, and his amazing his journey from messed up kid to, um, himself. It was quite an epic, considering he was 34 at the time.

In that book, called "Dreams From My Father", he writes that he used marijuana and cocaine ("maybe a little blow".) Oddly enough, he writes that he didn't try heroin because -- wait for it -- he didn't like the pusher who was selling it. (Weren't there any other reasons?) In a later interview, he added "Teenage boys are frequently confused."

So what is your point, Jason?

Actually, TJ, there are those that are fundamentalist Christians that are awaiting the rapture believing that "the chosen few" will be swept up into a cloud by Jesus and saved from God's wrath in the last days.

And don't sling that stuff at Ann. It won't stick.

And Ann, it is frightening, because some are actually talking about initiating WWIII so that it will speed up the whole process.

Jason, he must have been amazingly arrogant to write an autobiography at 34 when his greatest accomplishment was passing the Illinois Bar with a comprehension of constitutional law below that of an Advanced Placement government student.

That is a TINY minority. Should I define the Democratic Party by the few Scientologist nuts you harbor?

TJ, your apologetic tap-dancing is getting lamer and lamer. Take a reality pill already and get over yourself, you silly little boy!

TJ, you're slipping father into total inanity. If you think anyone is going to believe that there is any comparison between the number of scientologists in the Democratic party and the number of fundamentalist christians in the republican party, you've completely lost credibility.

(especially since we get to count all the dead people the Mormons have converted on the republican side)

Dame Ruth, when you criticize me, it doesn't seem as harsh as when Sandy does it.

Sandy, "fundamentalist" Christians do not all believe that we should wage WWIII to usher in the Second Coming sooner. Those people do not constitute the Christian right; they are a fringe of the Christian right. Just as Scientology is a fringe of the paranoid left.

PS: That joke about the Mormons was actually funny. Except we all know that dead people always vote for JFK.

What about Obama's former church and pastor? No one is supposed to talk about it. It is a common kind of church? Black Liberation Theology is not exactly mainstream.

That is old news and Obama has left the church and spoken out against the minister. But thanks for sharing.

Want to freshen things up with a little new news? Meet Sarah Palin's Reverend Kalnins, of Wasilla Assembly of God (whose sermons mysteriously disappeared overnight along with lots of other stuff that the party of no disclosure obviously doesn't want us to see.)

"Pastor Kalnins has also preached that critics of President Bush will be banished to hell; questioned whether people who voted for Sen. John Kerry in 2004 would be accepted to heaven; charged that the 9/11 terrorist attacks and war in Iraq were part of a war "contending for your faith;" and said that Jesus "operated from that position of war mode.""

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He preaches repeatedly about the "end times" or "last days," an apocalyptic prophesy held by a small but vocal group of Christian leaders. During his appearance with Palin in June, he declared, "I believe Alaska is one of the refuge states in the last days, and hundreds of thousands of people are going to come to the state to seek refuge and the church has to be ready to minister to them."

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Even Palin expressed surprise at that pastor's advocacy for her candidacy. "He was praying over me," she said in June. "He's praying, 'Lord make a way, Lord make a way...' And I'm thinking, this guy's really bold, he doesn't even know what I'm gonna do, he doesn't know what my plans are, and he's praying not, 'Oh Lord, if it be your will may she become governor,' or whatever. No, he just prayed for it. He said, 'Lord, make a way, and let her do this next step.' And that's exactly what happened. So, again, very very powerful coming from this church."

Carla, I followed this trail and couldn't make heads nor tails of the blog, but kept on clicking links until I got up to speed. As a former fundamentalist/evangelical, I already have issues, let's leave it at that, but the education I've gotten after catching up on what has been happening in that segment of society is disconcerting and I am very uncomfortable. More than before.

I saw a video of Palin speaking at her church of the war as a mission for God. That kind of talk just makes me (sorry) sick. Literally: my stomach is a mess.

Linda, I can understand why that video would make you sick. The things that you mention concern me as well. We need to get the word out. As someone pointed out, Sarah Palin is a "trojan horse".

I thought it was interesting that Palin spoke about protecting our freedoms and liberties while promoting her own ideas which would obviously infringe on the freedoms and liberties of others.

It's the typical GOP fashion, she only wants folks to have the freedoms and liberties that she thinks they should have; not the ones they might decide on for their own.

Dominionists are very scary. Some that I have met, have plainly said that anyone who disagrees with their view is a lower life form. Somehow they believe that beating, imprisoning and killing any oppositioners is thoroughly and justly authorized.

Doesn't that sound more like Pontious Pilate's attitude, rather than Jesus of Nazareth's?

Those people....this exact reason was the last straw for me. I was teaching a Bible Study and the pastor's wife interupted and claimed that God "only hears the prayers of born-again Christians." I asked how that could be because if that were true, no one would even BE a born-again Christian. She said she didn't know where, but it was definitely in the Bible.

It's like a country-club. It's perfectly acceptable and even funny, to be rude to people because they are so ignorant that they don't "get it" and it's their own fault. Being mean in the name of Jesus...what is wrong with this picture?