Illegal Aliens (Part Three)

They get benefits that a American can't get free schooling free food free hospital benefits . I don't begrudge the people that want to work, but make it Legal. which our law makers won't do.

You bring up some excellent points. I have some strong beliefs on this topic, none of which I can put into sentences that wont get me thrown off of Gather. I have a pretty dim view of illegal aliens, and have seen first hand, both how they live and how it affects others. Japser has put it better than I could have.

I'm all for legal immigration. My great grandparents immigrated, but they had to come through Ellis Island and know english. Something a lot of folks forget is that if we stop the illegals we could give visas to those countries who don't get them now and allow in people who truly are looking for a better life.

Time to shut down the gravy train. American citizens will be needing these services, due to this recession. In Rhode Island, the number of people receiving food stamps is up over 20% this year alone. Alot of other manufacturing areas have been hit just as bad. Average pay for alot of jobs has dropped significantly... citizens ARE competing for many of the same jobs as illegals...people need to stop fooling themselves. Illegals are not just the busboy or maid... they aren't stupid... they go where the money is.

As have I, Adelaide. I live in a rural area so we get plenty.

So true Robin, they aren't just on farms or in services, they are in manufacturing, housing, you name it.

interesting...

hope you had a great 4th!

First, let us remember the "illegal" part of being an illegal immigrant. Most Americans don't seem to have problems with legal immigration, however it only seems fair to question the value of any additions to our country who already show no regard for it's laws upon arrival.

Second, it seems far too easily forgotten that one must be an U.S. citizen in order to warrant the rights afforded to a citizen. That should be the end of discussion.

Third, legal immigrants working alongside native born citizens have made this country what it is. We have thrived on the contributions of immigrants and will usually need them, though to varying degrees, throughout most sectors of our economy. The problem is that we cannot afford to turn a blind eye to those who enter illegally, ignore our laws and seek to subvert our culture and national values. We welcome those who follow the rules, learn the English language, and respect our sovereignty. As illegal immigrants, it is not only offensive but also ridiculous to ask for rights, which they have not earned nor are entitled to.

Let's secure our borders by building the fence so we have an effective and controlled immigration system at the same time as we enforce our currently existing immigration laws. During this interval we encourage illegals to depart (attrition through enforcement). Once our borders are secured and we have a grip on a functional system of immigration, we move against those illegals that have refused to leave. We should never ever grant amnesty.

We tried 'comprehensive immigration reform' in 1986. We gave amnesty to 3 million illegal aliens in exchange for the government promising to secure the borders, conduct workplace enforcement and enforce immigration law. It didn't work because the government lied and did nothing other than process the amnesty paperwork. Due to that folly, we now have 20 Million or more illegal aliens here demanding amnesty.

Don't you think it is far beyond time that we engage in Comprehensive Immigration ENFORCEMENT rather than Comprehensive Immigration Reform (amnesty)?

Well said Zeb.

dropping by to leave you a 10! Have a happy Saturday!

See that is what makes me mad Patricia. If anyone of use did these things they would throw the book at us. Notice the owner stayed in jail while the illegals were left out. They should all be in jail and/or deported.

I wish more people can read your articles and UNDERSTAND what the illegal problems are. I cannot believe but many people don't see the problems. All they see is "Oh they are just trying to feed their family". Well guess what? WE ALL ARE.

I was appalled when I saw a senator, I cant remember which one offhand, condescend that americans wouldnt work hard labor for $10 an hour. Hello! A lot of legal americans would be happy for that kind of pay.

Thanks Selene. I, myself, wish more people would do things the way you have.

It's crazy Beth. I know a couple of people who would shovel manure for $10 an hour.

" That 3%-5% make 8% of our prison population."

But in your other article you said " We wouldn't have 27% of our prisons populated by illegal aliens which would also cut costs." 8% or 27%? Which is it? If you're going to throw these statistics around trying to people all riled up against illegal immigrants, it would be nice if you could tell us where the numbers come from, and explain the inconsistencies.

" They get benefits that a American can't get free schooling free food free hospital benefits."

To my knowledge, this is simply untrue. All children in the US, whether they, or their parents, are in the US legally, have the right to an education at a public school. I think that's a good thing.

Just like I think it's best if people who are hungry are given food, regardless of whether they have any money, or whether they, or their parents, are in the US legally.

And emergency rooms are required to help people, regardless of whether they can afford to pay for that help, or whether they, or their parents, are in the US legally. I think that's a good thing, too.

I apologize Wil, the 27% were non-citizens of which 8% were illegal aliens. Thank you for pointing out my mistake.

The 27% came from a 2005 General Accountability Office report. The 8% came from the Department of Justice 2007 midyear report. I won't include stats in an article without verifying them.

"I apologize Wil, the 27% were non-citizens of which 8% were illegal aliens. Thank you for pointing out my mistake."

You're welcome.

Surely opening up the prison gates to cut expenses to taxpayers isn't a good idea, regardless of the inmates' immigration status. So I'm not really sure why those numbers are significant.

Oklahoma passed a state bill which cleared illegals out of the state. They cannot be employed in Oklahoma. Cannot own property in Oklahoma. Other states are looking at the law that Oklahoma passed and doing the same in their state.