by Doyle ( IS SOOO 7 for 7 soon... ) C.
Member since:
January 8, 2007

Do We Care?

June 07, 2008 05:13 PM UTC (Updated: June 07, 2008 05:20 PM UTC)
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Iraqi Members of Parliament say if bases are in the security agreement; most Iraqis will reject it.  Do we care?  We can't leave if we want this "ever so successful" surge to . . . umm . . . be successful.  Besides, how do THEY know what's best for them? 

Nadim al-Jaberi is a senior member and former secretary-general of Fadhila, a Shiite party that controls the Basra provincial government. The group, which holds 15 seats in parliament, withdrew last year from talks in order to join unelected al-Maliki's cabinet after complaining of US interference.

 

Khalaf al-Ilyan is one of the three leaders of the Iraq Accordance Front, parliament's largest Sunni Arab bloc with 44 of the House's 275 seats. Last year, he played a prominent role in the Sunni decision to walk out of the Cabinet in protest of al-Maliki's policies.

So what's the story?  Do we care what THEY want . . . or not?

Information from The Real News Network  

Comments: 36

Ron B. Jun 7, 2008, 5:30pm UTC
For at least the past two years, Iraqi polls have indicated that more than 70% of the population wants the U.S. to leave and over 90% thinks it's okay to use violence against them.
Dorothy H. Jun 7, 2008, 5:34pm UTC
Stopping by to leave you some triple points!
Miz Sheri Jun 7, 2008, 5:35pm UTC
We should never have been there in the first place!
Doyle ( IS SOOO 7 for 7 soon... ) C. Jun 7, 2008, 5:35pm UTC
Exactly Ron . . . then the religious leaders . . . now the government!

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
WM H. Jun 7, 2008, 5:35pm UTC
"Do we care......"

Who is we? I think we all know that if "we" refers to the current administration, they don't care what anybody thinks.

If we includes me, I say give them what they want!
Doyle ( IS SOOO 7 for 7 soon... ) C. Jun 7, 2008, 5:36pm UTC
Thanks Dorothy! Sheri! What about our . . . ahem . . . success? :P

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
Doyle ( IS SOOO 7 for 7 soon... ) C. Jun 7, 2008, 5:37pm UTC
Good point WM!

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
Grems 'gremlin' Jun 7, 2008, 5:43pm UTC
I think if they prefer we leave, then we need to leave. Especially since they believe it is alright to harm our soldiers. I don't think we should be there in the first place and I never felt we should have gone. They are clearly stating they do not want us there and I do not believe we should ever impose democracy on those who do not want it.
WM H. Jun 7, 2008, 5:59pm UTC
"...we should ever impose democracy..."

It would seem that we would no longer be imposing democracy, but honoring it!
Doyle ( IS SOOO 7 for 7 soon... ) C. Jun 7, 2008, 6:22pm UTC
"I do not believe we should ever impose democracy on those who do not want it. "
Agreed.

"It would seem that we would no longer be imposing democracy, but honoring it! "
Excellent point! Mission accomplished, right?

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
The Fine Art of C.C. Miranda Jun 7, 2008, 6:24pm UTC
i care. about you that is. the politics, not so much.
Wilma D. Jun 7, 2008, 6:46pm UTC
What we can't go into a country and ignore their culture and history and impose our way of life? What is wrong with this world??
Doyle ( IS SOOO 7 for 7 soon... ) C. Jun 7, 2008, 6:49pm UTC
" i care. about you that is. the politics, not so much. "
(*blush*) YOU are in the will!

Thanks Sharon! :P

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
Doyle ( IS SOOO 7 for 7 soon... ) C. Jun 7, 2008, 6:51pm UTC
Good question Wilma!

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
The Fine Art of C.C. Miranda Jun 7, 2008, 6:52pm UTC
sweet! whatcha leaving me? your porn collection? errant left socks? california dust bunnies? your bat cape? ;P
Doyle ( IS SOOO 7 for 7 soon... ) C. Jun 7, 2008, 6:55pm UTC
Bills. :P
Vicky Duggins Jun 7, 2008, 6:58pm UTC
I do not care, just for the record.
The Fine Art of C.C. Miranda Jun 7, 2008, 6:58pm UTC
that's okay, they aren't in my name so i can just put them in a closet and forget about them.
Doyle ( IS SOOO 7 for 7 soon... ) C. Jun 7, 2008, 7:00pm UTC
Why not? That's what I do.
Doyle ( IS SOOO 7 for 7 soon... ) C. Jun 7, 2008, 7:01pm UTC
" I do not care, just for the record. "
You will. :)

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
Vicky Duggins Jun 7, 2008, 7:36pm UTC
Oh I mean, I don't care what the Iraqis want. I don't care anymore.
Roy ☯ Hilbinger Jun 7, 2008, 8:33pm UTC
Huh! You'd think Dubya would be looking for an out at this point. Oh yeah, that's right, he'd got Uncle Dick telling him that yes means no and fail means win, so he thinks we're actually winning. It's scary when you discover that Orwell wrote your history 60 years ago!
Stephanie B. Jun 8, 2008, 12:46am UTC
We helped put this government in place. The ostensible reason we showed up (Hussein) is demonstrably no longer a threat.

If they want us to leave, we have no reason to stay.

And, yes, I care.
Doyle ( IS SOOO 7 for 7 soon... ) C. Jun 8, 2008, 12:50am UTC
Smile when you say Dick, Roy! :P

"Didn't boosh say we would leave when asked????? "
Maybe he meant when DICK Cheney asked?

Thanks Patricia (me too)!

Thanks Steph!

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
Sandy Knauer Jun 8, 2008, 1:01am UTC
I care, if that matters. We should never have gone there in the first place, and we should leave now and pay someone else to clean up our mess.
Doyle ( IS SOOO 7 for 7 soon... ) C. Jun 8, 2008, 1:28am UTC
"...we should leave now and pay someone else to clean up our mess. "
Damn skippy! We also need to apologize and prosecute our own . . . and we'd still save money!

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
Sandy Knauer Jun 8, 2008, 2:26am UTC
Damn skippy! We also need to apologize and prosecute our own . . . and we'd still save money!

I agree. Sadly, though, there are many Americans who forget what happened ten minutes after it's over. Then, they call our restitution to other countries charity and resent the liberals for thinking we should make the payments.
Sue * Jun 8, 2008, 2:31am UTC
It is really late, and my brain is too tired to think or read big words...but, I want to give you some points...so, I'll be back when I can function!
Doyle ( IS SOOO 7 for 7 soon... ) C. Jun 8, 2008, 9:40am UTC
"...they call our restitution to other countries charity and resent the liberals for thinking we should make the payments. "
Hell, they don't even want us to take care of Americans who need help.

Thank you Sue *!

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
Peter Wimsey Jun 8, 2008, 12:16pm UTC
Great article, Doyle.

I suspect that there will be no comprehensive agreement by the time that the UN mandate expires at the end of the year.
The best that Bush can do is to arrange some interim plan.

This is another gravely serious project that will have to be untangled by the next President.
Kathleen ♥ L. Jun 8, 2008, 1:37pm UTC
We need to respect the wishes of the Iraqi people and the government They elected. Weren't there "Democratic elections" held there after Hussein was ousted? If Bush were truly concerned about spreading Democracy he shouldn't be so quick to discredit other nation's democratically elected government... like he did else where in the Middle East
Doyle ( IS SOOO 7 for 7 soon... ) C. Jun 8, 2008, 5:48pm UTC
"I suspect that there will be no comprehensive agreement by the time that the UN mandate expires at the end of the year. "
Why? Are pay-offs aren't working? :P

"If Bush were truly concerned about spreading Democracy he shouldn't be so quick to discredit other nation's democratically elected government..."
The Prime Minister was NOT elected.

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
Sheila Deeth Jun 10, 2008, 1:14am UTC
Sometimes you end up wondering who's representing who. But we should care enough to talk and respect and consider.

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