Obama's Church at it again

I posted an article and a link to the video of this just an hour ago. Please check it out!

Obma's stance is expressed in his own book. He don't like white people, even his own mother. He made it a race issue and only him. That is sad. it is as though he is saying. "I'm not qualified am taking my cues from my backers and you should vote for me because I'm half black and I identify with my black half. Never mind that I am unqualified I am a great speaker with a gift for gab. and did I mention I'm black." Sickning.

They claimed that Wrights BS was taken out of context, now what are they going to lie about on this. I know, they will claim that the Republicans made all of this up.. These libs never do any wrong..

Look into Reverend James Meeks, too. He's suppose to be a close advisor to Obama.

"We don't have slave masters, we got mayors, but they still the same white people who are presiding over systems where black people are not able to be educated.
You have got some preachers that are house niggers. You have some elected officials that are house niggers. And rather than them trying to break this up, they are going to fight you to protect that white man."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM2M11BsA3g

I had no idea so many people were disconnected from reality as "I" know it to be. For all my life I have been forced to listen to, watch on TV and live with the whelms of what I would deem crazy talking white "leaders" ;be they politicians, preachers or just some local yokel yet when blacks express similar views people lose their minds entirely. If Obama is to be judged the way he is being by you then why wasn't Bush and his associates judged the same way? Why isn't Mc Cain with his preacher friend with the wild ideas just as lambasted as Obama? Why isn't that fat buffoon drug addict Limbaugh lambasted off the radio? Or is it that only white folks have a license to be idiotic or to express ideas which are not normal to the rest of the citizenry? Does it shock you that a black person would have the audacity to feel that some mayors have no interest in their minority electorate? I live in St Louis under just such a mayor and yes, as far as I am concerned their are some house N..... who help him in his not so secret attempt to keep as many of us down as possible if we disagree with him. Yes, there are preachers who are just as foul as he is but are you telling me I nor Obama, nor anyone who supports him has the right to speak up out of the box because it offends you? In this day and age are you saying you are surprised? What is the problem?

CGW, Obama is just as if not more qualified than anyone who has run for the office of president. Each of your shock responses simply tells the real truth about your limited knowledge of blacks and how we feel about a lot of things. No just like anyone else blacks are no where near a monolithic group but one thing you will find among most of us is that too many white folks can tolerate a lot of bullshit from folks as long as they are not black.

And Vickey I am so glad your sixth sense still works quite well to let you know what Obama's group is going to say. For once can you look at something with less shock value and consider that perhaps you are not the all knowing and ultra judge. Could it be that others think differently from you and suddenly you are faced with reality? Could it be that your judgement has nothing to do with Obama the candidate but is mired in what you are learning how some black folks think? What in hell does Obama's church, his friends, past and present have to do with his candidacy? Not a damn thing but I see those of you who answered with such disparaging comments choose to use this opportunity to raise your brows. Let me see you raise those brows with the rest of the candidates and most of our past presidents.

I just can't answer Spencer. There is just too much there to address. And I'm sure that no matter what I would say I would be called a racist anyway.

Btw, I don't listen to "that fat buffoon drug addict Limbaugh", as you put it. He certainly isn't my friend or advisor and I definitely wouldn't sit in a church for twenty years and listen to him and those like him if I didn't believe most of what they were saying.

Have you heard that James Gacy lived in Chicago, and that's where Obama's from? I think that news is REALLY going to tank his campaign. I mean, after all, do we REALLY want a serial killer and pedophile to be in the white house? There's no escaping the fact that, since Obama and Gacy were both from Chicago, they were obviously very close friends, and shared the exact same views on every issue. Scary.

Boy, you're REALLY reaching there, Clark! LOL

In fact, you verge on being totally ridiculous, buddy.

No, I take that back, you are being totally ridiculous.

There isn't all that much to address there. Spencer has only managed to try to create parallels where there are fixed perpendiculars. He starts out by implying that people who are taking a closer look at Obama's affiliations are disconnected from reality when, in fact, Spencer clearly shows that he creates his own reality. That's not reality, Spencer! " For all my life I have been forced to listen to, watch on TV..." Do you have some armed guard at your house that ties you down in front of your idiot box that forces you to watch what you don't want to see? Please let us know if I'm mistaken and that's a reality.

Allow me to impose some reality on you, Spencer.
1. Both Clinton and McCain have long political histories. They didn't rise from the dead overnight to become the hope of America.
2. I'll bet you're not a Christian. I am. I've left numerous churches in my past because those preachers by whom Christians are led in thought, word, and deed were, in my estimation, not worthy of leading people because their concepts were anti-Christian and I didn't wish to allow myself to listen to them and flood my mind with their propaganda so that I would be brainwashed by them. In order for a Christian to remain in a Church for nearly 20 years and allow themselves to listen to someone with whom they are not in agreement, they either have to be: a.) stupid or b.) in agreement.

3. Obama is not stupid.

Talk about creating one's own reality...Clark's obviously ingested too many CO2 emissions in his flights to save mankind.

Thank you, Sue, you are much more articulate than I and more able to cut through the BS. :o)


To me Spencer is just too old school in his thinking and of the belief that "whitey is keeping the black man down". I think he would defend anyone who is African-American while I wouldn't defend a white person just because we share the same pigmentation.

And, I think you're correct about Clark. He must be lightheaded this morning.

You're quite welcome, Lera. It's a blessing and a curse. Having worked in corporate America for so many years, I have lots of experience cutting through BS.

Sue you have done an excellent job with Spencer. I will leave it at that.

Clark- This is not a loose association with Obama. He was featured on his website until last night and is a friend of Sen. Obama. Barack should have to explain why he has supported this kind of thought by attending this church for 20years.

Eventually, everybody is going to start asking why McSame and his lame supporters refuse to discuss issues, and why, instead, they choose to focus intently on absurdities that mean nothing to any rational, intelligent person.

MDP, sorry I can't resist the overkill. You know, there's a reason I'm still on the salad while everyone else is ordering dessert.

Let's not forget that little $100K earmark Obama endowed to the wonderful Michael Pfleger's church. Oh, yes, the money was directly for the youth center of the church to give kids a place to play. A nice CCC: Conveniently Contrived Charity

" ...his lame supporters refuse to discuss issues, and why, instead, they choose to focus intently on absurdities that mean nothing to any rational, intelligent person... "


You really think so, Clark? I think if people were really interested in issues rather than focusing on absurdities meaning nothing to the rational and intelligent, Gather would have crashed a couple of years ago with such questions posed to you.

Come on Clark, You are the one who refuses to talk about Obama and the issues insisting that anyone who disagrees with him is racist. This is an issue though. He should explain if he really believes what is being talked about at his church for 20 years.

Sue thanks for the info I did not know that. I will be looking into it.

What about McInsane's spiritual advisor?

It seems you humor regarding Gacy swooshed right over people's heads here Clark . . . but I appreciated it immensely!

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~

No, Doyle, it's not that we didn't get the idea that he was joking. Even we don't think that he's so insane asylum nuts to say something so absurd in utter seriousness. It's just that it's so slapstick it's only funny to those with a Three Stooges mentality.

The minister was white this time, so is it really racism? Actually, I couldn't help thinking his comments were pretty funny and right on. Back in 2007 she thought she had this all wrapped up and then all the sudden here comes this young black guy from nowhere to foil the scheme she'd been building up for 8 years--and probably longer than that.

Doyle-

The fact is there is a difference between endorsments and people's personal pastor and Church. I dont know how you guys can claim that these kinds of statments are not an issue.

Paul- Did you see the first part of the video?

MDP, the ability to differentiate is a heavily weighted component of IQ tests. Don't expect too much.

I see the yokels are all here singing the same old tired song.

Yawn.

Where WOULD we be without such wisdom? Mom to all? Not to this little girl...I'd rather be orphaned.

And where would we be without Doyle coming along to stroke Clark?

I got Clark's sarcastic post, Doyle. Thank you very much.

I keep saying it, but we are known by the company we keep. The Senator is a very poor judge of character. Very poor, indeed.

No, Lera. You HAVE to laugh at anything that they consider a joke because if you don't you'll be either considered:

1. stupid for not understanding it was supposed to be a joke, even though their reality, in some cases, is SO EXTREMELY distorted it IS difficult to draw the line between where their minds jest and where their minds rest.

2. I'm not sure if, in their contorted world, you're actually allowed to discriminate between what you think is funny and what you don't. From what I gather, it would seem it's ok not to laugh if you don't think it's funny and they're white too, but if a Black person were to tell a joke and you didn't think it was funny, you'd better laugh because, well you know...

McInsane personally, and aggressively sought out the public endorsement of two of the nation's most hate-filled, terroristic, anti-American ministers. He then publicly embraced those endorsements, and even went so far as to publicly agree with these minister's positions.

Mind you, these ministers:

1. Hate American Catholics
2. Hate American Muslims
3. Want to launch Armageddon and kill all Jews that do not convert
4. Think that Hitler was doing the Lord's work

Now, compare that with the ridiculous nonsense that's being tossed out against Obama (and again, why do the McSame worshippers insist upon pretending that non-issues are issues, and continue to refuse to discuss what the American public considers real issues? hmmmmm?).

1. Obama's minister makes a 9 minute speech after 9/11, in which he advocates that the US work with the world community to eradicate hatred and divisiveness in the world, rather than launch wars of aggression ("God DAMN America if it chooses this path").

2. A 24/7 media firestorm is launched in the "liberal MSM," and continues ad nauseum for nearly a full month. Spongebob was the only place you could go to escape the discussion of how much Obama supposedly hates America.

3. Obama repudiates the words of his former minister. He has never sought, nor received the endorsement of the man. He also gives a brilliant 30 minute speech that mirrors some of the most brilliant public figure speaking in our history.

4. Obama's minister takes the opportunity of being a speaker at the NAACP conference to thrust himself back into the spotlight and say yet more things to cause fearful, racist Americans to hate and distrust Obama.

5. Obama again heads to the podium, this time to absolutely denounce and repudiate his former pastor. The issue is now finally dead, and the media can finally begin to notice McCain's preacher problem.

6. Obama carries on, discussing real, substantive issues, such as joblessness, the sagging economy, national debt, the illegal Iraq war, restoring legitimacy and the rule of law to the white house, global warming, education, poverty, healthcare, etc....exactly what the American public is starving to hear about.

7. A lunatic fringe Catholic priest attends Obama's church as a guest speaker and makes some stupid comments about Hillary.

8. The "liberal MSM" instantly sets out to once again use the words of someone who is barely, if at all, connected in any way to Obama, to "prove" to us that Obama hates America and works for al Qaeda.

Please, people. You're smarter than this, aren't you? Do you LIKE to be manipulated and controlled like this? Wake up.

Here are some facts that are inescapable:

1. The GOP is in desperate condition right now. Even before they've completely split apart (as they absolutely will in the coming months), only 2/3 of so-called republicans are willing to support a third failed Bush term in the white house.

2. There are at least three very powerful factions of the republican party that are going to tear that party to shreds in the coming months:
1. Religious freaks (McCain's ministers, Robertson, Reed, etc...dangerous lunatics)
2. Neocon freaks (Gingrich, Murdoch, DeLay (though he's actually a religio-freak AND a neocon), BushCheneyCorp, etc., etc., etc.
3. Real conservatives, although I seriously doubt that any true conservatives actually remain party members at this point.
4. Libertarians...now, they have Bob Barr, and have always ahd Ron Paul

3. Not a single group of republicans is fully in support of their presumed candidate. Not a one. Every single segment of the republican party hates him for one reason or other, some more so than others. He is utterly incapable of uniting that party.

4. While Obama and Clinton are setting records for campaign finance donations, and doing it with small, private donations, McCain continues to struggle to raise anything. Two recent fundraising events, one in his home state of Arizona, and the other in entirely red Idaho, had to be moved from large venues to private homes, due to lack of interest.

5. McCain has already violated his very own campaign finance reform law.

6. America is ready for dramatic, sweeping change. The democrats both represent that sweeping change. McSame represents another 4 years of failed Bush and GOP policies.

7. Obama continues to talk about issues. The "liberal media" continues to bring up non-issues, and ignore real issues. Think about it for a minute.

The news said he was a priest and he was wearing the collar of a Father. I have never seen a Catholic priest behave in such a manner, where do they find these kooks!

But on the other side of the coin, he did make me laugh with his comments about Hillary..they really were pretty spot on! We have been saying all along that it will be fun to watch Hillary throw her temper tantrum when she doesn't get what she thinks is rightfully hers. This is better than the Comedy Channel.

Who knew? Liberals are fun to watch.

I'm going out for lunch. After I've digested entirely, if no one has cleaned up the vomit regurgitated at 1:20PM, I'll see what I can do.

People on both sides are fun to watch, Moggy. This zoo just happens to be dominated by liberals.

Whatever Clark . . . but Bill Clinton . . .

" MDP, the ability to differentiate is a heavily weighted component of IQ tests. Don't expect too much. "
That explains a lot about you Sue . . . Sorry.

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~

Clark-

"use the words of someone who is barely, if at all, connected in any way to Obama,"

He was personally a friend of the pastor and was an advisor to the campaign. That is a connection a strong one. All at the Church that Obama is still a member of

"Obama continues to talk about issues."

No he does not, he does not want to talk about issues all he does is give speeches that talk about "hope" and "change" yet he cant come up with issues to illustrate that.

Doyle-

You dont understand, you just spew hate and dont care. Thats fine, but this is an issue of judgment. Since we dont know anything about Obama this is a big issue.

MDP what did we know about Clinton before he ran? Or many others? If your best friend robs a bank does that make you guilty by association?

And on that same note McCains wife is a drug addict so does that make him one too?

And Bill couldnt keep it in his pants does that mean that Hillary will give oral sex if elected?

"And Bill couldnt keep it in his pants does that mean that Hillary will give oral sex if elected?"

Am I too old to be an intern??!!

Somebody should try to explain why something that somebody ELSE says, regardless of whether or not they even know the candidate being slimed, has ANYTHING WHATSOEVER to do with the actual mind of the candidate in question.

In other words, are any of you delusional moonbats REALLY stupid enough to think that Obama "hates America" and "work with al Qaeda to secretly plot new attacks?" Do you? THink about this, seroiusly. You're being manipulated like little rag dolls, just exactly as you were in the past two presidential elections. Is that something you LIKE? You LIKE being made a fool of like this?

And, if you DO actually believe that Obama is going to kill America because of something that some lunatic minister said, how can you justify McCain's close relationship with what are obviously 2 seriously deranged, dangerous ministers of his own?

Let's see...Obama should be hated and feared for everything that anybody that he's ever known in his entire life has ever said or done...but, John Mccain should be given a free pass over the same....

Ok, how does this make ANY SENSE? Seriously. You people need to start getting a grip and asking yourself why somebody is constantly trying to distract you from the real issues of the day.

Oh ...... my! Joesph would take a BJ from Hillary!! LOL

"You people need to start getting a grip and asking yourself why somebody is constantly trying to distract you from the real issues of the day."

Absolutely, Clark! Now stop it!

Good going Sue and MDP!

OK, folks, it's Friday and you've provided as close to live entertainment as one can expect while working, except for that new, ditzy male receptionist we hired, (need a new friend connection, Doyle?) so after this comment I'm taking off for my week-end.

I'm not here to defend McCain. You're absolutely right on that Clark. He has issues too. What you're so wrong about is that I certainly haven't said that "Obama "hates America" and "works with al Qaeda to secretly plot new attacks." That's a conclusion that your delusional mind fabricates to elude the point. I made that point above in my answer to Spencer, so for the sake of brevity, I'll defer. I will emphasize from that comment that if you're not a Christian you have no idea the implications of what it means to sit in a pew year after year, listen to hate filled rhetoric and allow your children to listen to it, rhetoric that deeply colors the way you perceive and treat the world to which you are sent from it. If you don't like it, you just don't stay unless you're a total moron. If you do stay you have to be in agreement. I am not Jean Dixon nor am I Dr. Phil so I can't tell you exactly how Obama has processed such information, but I can tell you that it is not of the mindset I would like to see the leader of the free world possess.

"Please, people. You're smarter than this, aren't you? Do you LIKE to be manipulated and controlled like this? Wake up." I agree with this statement too. (with reservations on as to what you've deemed to be the '2nd sentence' there.)

I've already had the conversation with you on partisanship, Clark, and you told me that you don't see politics as anything but partisan and, to some degree, because of that there's no agreed upon premise for further discussion between us.

Just once though, I'd like to see you give a reason for something that isn't based upon an already thought out ideology from which you parrot back thoughts because it gives you a base for some low level degree of rationality. When you can show some original thought process that makes your opinion worthwhile to ponder then we might be able to have an intelligent discussion, but I've seen nothing but the same old lines from you over the last two years I've been here, reworded to fit the particular occasion, and aside from its entertainment factor, it's only obtuse, counterproductive and useless hatred spewing toward conservatives. I have no time for hatred and I have no time to deal with people who hate.

Lori, I know you do have the ability to differentiate, but your comments above are not reflective of that. I ask that you take another look at what you've written.

Thank you, MDP, for this fine prelude to a fun week-end. To Lera, Esther, and all of you, a blessed and happy week-end!

Oh, and Doyle...my BEST regards...

Happy Week End, Sue!!!!

"Oh, and Doyle...my BEST regards..."

Back at ya' cupcake! :)

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~

"Now they have turned their hate and racism towards Hillary Clinton."

- MDP, you failed to mention that the "pastor" you speak of who made these comments and is not only a regular guest at the church and a friend of Obama, but is also a Catholic priest. Should we know be calling out the Catholic church to explain their hate and racism towards Hilary Clinton? Does anybody now feel that the Catholic church and all it's members are racist based on Father Pfleger's "rant". Probably not.

"It is time that we got real answers from Barack Obama about his feelings on race and his attitude towards the church that he was a member of for 20 years and his pastor and friends."

- What more do you want him to say? If people would listen I think he's address all of these issues quite thoroughly.

Have a good weekend!

Most diseased pubic , get a grip , your kind will be relegated to the sidelines very soon.

Not soon enough for my taste.

OBAMA 2008

"Should we know be calling out the Catholic church to explain their hate and racism towards Hilary Clinton?"

Puh-leese! They only have a problem when they DON'T agree with the message. Look at McInsane's endorsements by Hagee and Parsley . . . no problem with those war mongering maggots!

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~

Stephanie-

You have a good weekend too.

For your questions

"you failed to mention that the "pastor" you speak of who made these comments and is not only a regular guest at the church and a friend of Obama, but is also a Catholic priest. Should we know be calling out the Catholic church to explain their hate and racism towards Hilary Clinton? Does anybody now feel that the Catholic church and all it's members are racist based on Father Pfleger's "rant". "

No I think it is reflective of this one Catholic. Obama's church has shown time and time again what they support and it is hate and intolerance to those that are not of their type. I would hope the Catholic Church would discipline him though.



"What more do you want him to say? If people would listen I think he's address all of these issues quite thoroughly."

I would like to know why he was a member for 20 years he says he does not agree, but only know when running for President. What does he really belive. He has no record just popping onto the scene and he talks only in general speeches. No substance. I want to know something about someone before they become President of the United States.

Don,

See me in Novemeber when Obama is retired as the hype he is.

"Puh-leese! They only have a problem when they DON'T agree with the message. Look at McInsane's endorsements by Hagee and Parsley . . . no problem with those war mongering maggots!"

McCain has rejected their endorsments AND they were not his personal pastors nor did it happen in his personal church it is the difference of watching a fire on TV and being there in person

He aggressively SOUGHT OUT the endorsements of these hateful, anti-American, terrorists, ministers, MDP, and then he openly and publicly AGREED with their positions.

Spin until your brains fall right out of your skull, but you will NEVER find a way to make that "better" than what the "liberal media" has instructed you to believe about Obama. Sorry. That dog don't hunt.

The FACT is, for all of this ridiculous manipulating, obsfucating, manufacturing, and spinning that you McInsane supporters do, he's a defect. That's the bottom line. He is completely, entirely out of touch with mainstream America, and he is ALMOST completely out of touch with the mass of the republican party, which is why he is having so much trouble raising pennies, and why he cannot get the mass of the party to vote for him. This is a terribly defective candidate.

He can NOT discuss real issues, because to do so would be to expose his egregious, insurmountalbe defects. This is precisely why he, and his delusional followers are forced to divert away from the REAL issues of the day, and instead, focus on such utter nonsense as what somebody who an opposing candidate MIGHT have known at one point in his life, has said. This is fucking stupid. Get real, and move on, people. We are living in a country that is currently $9 TRILLION in republican DEBT, immersed in an endless, unimaginably costly, illegal occupation of another country, with a broken education system, a collapsing healthcare system, failing infrastructure, global warming, troubled social safety net, etc., etc., etc., and all you moonbats can talk about is what freak Obama MIGHT have known, casually or otherwise, at SOME point in his life, that YOU find offensive. GROW THE FUCK UP. MOVE ON. Seriously. This shit is TOO FUCKING SERIOUS to keep playing this idiotic bullshit. Let's talk ISSUES. What is JOHN MCCAIN going to do for social security, education, healthcare, Iraq, medicare, national security, blah, blah, blah. Let's get fucking serious here for a change, shall we?

Keep on dreaming mdp , keep on dreaming........................................

Clark-

Just continue to try to distract people from the questions of Obama's judgement. You have made it clear that Sen. Obama cannot stand up to real scruitiny because you and all the rest of his supporters refuse to let anyone discuss real questions concerning him.

George B, I am not the one dreaming these things are happening

I agree!

It is encouraging to Obama supporters to know that the far right cannot find real issues on which to challenge Obama, and therefore, turn to character assassination with half truths, innuendo and lies! That is really reaching.

However, in the debates, McCain will have to address real issues and all this internet trashing won't be of any benefit to him. Were it actually true, he could certainly ask Obama about it but, trust me, he won't as it is not true!

"We know very little about Sen. Obama and he should come out and be honest with us all."

Guess you're about to get a crash course in who Obama is, lol.