Everytime I read a new article about how bad we treat terrorists and they should be given the same rights as Americans I get a little worked up. When people refuse to play by the rules they should not be rewarded by being treated better than other Military Prisoners. I think the people who push these kinds of view have lost track about what this is really about. The terrorists do not care about rules they do not care how many innocent people they kill just to accomplish their senseless views. They hit us once and we have to do everything possible to hunt these people down and hold them responsible for their actions.
From ABC News,
Intelligence and law enforcement sources tell ABC News they are expecting al Qaeda supporters will post a new video on the Internet in the next 24 hours, calling for what one source said is "jihadists to use biological, chemical and nuclear weapons to attack the West."
"There have been several reports that al Qaeda will release a new message calling for the use of weapons of mass destruction (WMD) against civilians," FBI spokesman Richard Kolko told ABC News in an e-mail.
"Although there have been similar messages in the past, the FBI and [Department of Homeland Security] have no intelligence of any specific plot or indication of a threat to the U.S.," the e-mail said. "The FBI and U.S. intelligence community will review the message for any intelligence value."
While there is no evidence of any direct threat, the FBI sent a bulletin to 18,000 law enforcement agencies across the country, out of an abundance of caution.
Some independent analysts don't think the public should worry much.
Ben Venzke, the CEO of IntelCenter, a group that monitors terrorist communications on the Web, said the video, entitled "Nuclear Jihad, The Ultimate Terror," is a jihadi supporter video compilation and not from an official group.
"Supporter videos are made by fans or supporters who may not have ever had any contact with a real terrorist," Venzke said. "These videos almost always are comprised of old video footage that is edited together to make a new video."
He said the material in these types of videos does not qualify as an official message from al Qaeda or any other group.
"Considering them so would be the equivalent of considering a 10-year-old's homemade fan video of his favorite sports team to be an official team message," Venzke said. "IntelCenter is not aware of any new imminent message by al-Qaeda or any other leading jihadist group in audio or video form that will call for the use of WMD against civilians."
Word of the new tape comes on the heels of a spate of messages from Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda's second-in-command, Ayman al-Zawahiri.
Earlier this month, al Qaeda released an audio message from bin Laden, excoriating the media and countries that are supportive of Israel. The release was timed to coincide with the nation's 60th anniversary and President Bush's trip to the region.
So far this year, four bin Laden tapes have surfaced.
In April, the terror group released audio recordings in which al-Zawahiri answered questions submitted to an online forum several months earlier.
The increasing volume of tapes seems to signal to the law enforcement and intelligence communities that top al Qaeda leadership is comfortable monitoring current events and communicating messages frequently.
Officials have tracked the trend, but FBI director Robert Mueller downplayed the surge of messages during an appearance earlier this month, noting that "there is a difference between al Qaeda's ability to communicate internally and al Qaeda's ability to post a message on the Internet. As we all know, the Internet is so broad. The access is absolutely open that just about anybody can post material on the Internet."
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To address your comment though- it is the age old ethical question, do you demonstrate moral superiority and take the high road or win at any cost. And if in the process of winning you lose everything you want to save, have you really won?
Geneva Convention. I do not think torture is part of the protocol.
I also don't think they have rights to our courts or any other right reserved for citizens.
If in truth we are in a WAR they are POWs I don't see any other logical designation.
Ever hear of Depleted Uranium? Look it up sometime. How about land mines? Ever hear of them? Look it up sometime and see how many innocent civilians have been killed and/or maimed by ours since we began using them. How about nuclear bombs? Ever heard of them? Look up Hiroshima and Nagasaki sometime, and see what happened there. How about white phosporous and napalm? Look up and see what we did to Fallujah sometime.
The US is the world's leading terrorist and, by far, the most aggressive user of WMD in the world. Check your facts.
Not any more, we don't. Now, because of the likes of MDP and his hero, booshie boy, we not only have violated international laws by committing horrendous acts of terrorism, using dreadful WMD against civilian populations, but we've also thrown away the Geneva conventions. We are a lawless, rogue nation in the eyes of the world. But, they "hate us because we're free," though, right?
Folks like MDP here have no concept of America. They let themselves be led around by their irrational fears in the exact same manner that the German people of the 1930's allowed Hitler to lead them around by their irrational fears. Very dangerous. Thankfully, there are enough of us real Americans around to stand firmly in opposition of the anti-America that these people long for.
You are, of course, referring to those who wish to throw away all American ideals in exchange for some pathetic, flimsy sense of security, right? Specifically, those that would encourage illegal wars of agression, the shelving of civil rights, ending habeus corpus, and engaging in illegal spying on US citizens, as well as illegal detention and torture.
Imo, those who would gleefully, anxiously throw away, or encourage the end of precious democratic American ideals are the greatest enemy that this nation has ever faced.
Of course he is . . . but he said "us" as though he weren't included in "those" . . . But he is included, is't he? I mean he and the rest of the pathetic and vile, cowardly, contemptuous sniveling vermin who would freely give up the rights and freedoms that so many have fought and died to secure for us, not because of some threat, armed and poised on our borders . . . but due to a percieved, potential threat that MAY materialize. Free to plastic wrap and duct tape those windows and crawl into a fetal, bedwetting position of fear, striking out at anyone brave enough to stand up for the freedom, NOT only against those they fear . . . but against those who bask in both fear and cowardice as well.
You're right but by pathetic I included simpering, cowardly little anti-American freaks of human nature as well. I detest the entire movement that seeks to destroy this country . . . standing or speaking against ALL enemies . . . both foreign AND domestic. Not just words to me. Clark is right. These terrorists quite simply are not the biggest threat we face. People like you are.
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
How many detainees captured and illegally incarcerated with your anti-American, nazi-esque program have been convicted of being actual terrorists since 9/11? How many detainees have even been tried? How many detainees are there that were legal, law-abiding citizens who just happened to be the "wrong color?"
How many innocent lives should be destroyed to satisfy your blood lust for destruction, death, and anti-Americanism?
"Those that would sell our very country away"
You mean like those who would expose a critical CIA operative during a time of "war," and render her and her entire 15 year operation useless as a covert asset? Or, like high level officials who would steal US nuclear secrets and sell them to anyone who offered to pay, as Sibel Edmonds has testified?
"Those that dont care that American Citizens were killed when Terrorist flew planes into buildings."
Prove to me that a single "terrorist" was involved in 9/11. Explain to me why some of those supposed terrorists were training on US military bases, and why some of them have appeared alive and well since "crashing" those planes into those buildings.
And, while you're at it, why don't you explain why Bush not only ignored over 50 specific warnings about 9/11, prior to the tragic day, but why he subsequently let Osama Bin Laden and al Qaeda escape to safety in Pakistan?
"You know the blame America First Crowd. "
By the US state department's very own definition of terrorism, we are the world's leading terrorist, and have, on MANY occassions throughout our history, used WMD at will against civilian populations. My pointing out this very simple, clear, proven, undeniable fact does not qualify you to brush it aside so callously, particularly since it's entirely probable that this reprehensible, terroristic, murderous behavior is what has caused such seething, raw, visceral hatred of the US throughout the world.
We can either choose to accept our history and seek to change that which was wrong about it, or we can continue to bury our phucking heads in the sands, and just wait for more attacks to come as a result of our astonishing arrogance and disregard for human life abroad.
Isn't it a crying shame that republICONs only seem capable of showing concern for unborn life, and cannot be bothered to care whatsoever about actual, living, breathing human beings?
"We should bring Terrorist to justice so they do not continue to kill Americans "
So, why did your boyfriend let them escape into Pakistan? And, why did he refuse to have Bin Laden handed over to him?
"It is about protecting American Lives."
You're not REALLY this foolish, are you? Name one specific thing that has been done since 9/11 that has made any single American one iota safer or more secure than before. Was it leaving the borders wide open? Launching an illegal war of aggression against a nation that posed us no harm and had nothing to do with 9/11? Pissing away $1 trillion of our nation's future wealth? Letting Bin Laden and his gang disappear to safety in Pakistan? Ignoring that 15 of 19 supposed hijackers came from Saudi Arabia?
Just exactly what is it about the past 6-1/2 years of unfathomable waste, corruption, and destruction that has made a single American more safe and secure?
"They have given us info that has stopped terrorist attacks. "
This is absolute bullshit. Somebody's been hogging the Kool-Aid at the trough-o-gullibility. Stop being such a tool.
The "war on terror" is nothing but a war on the American middle class and the national treasury. Wake the hell up.
I agree with your post, MDP. I just want to show that there is another voice out there, fighting against Al Queda, from within the Arab/Muslim world. I don't know how wide it's spread, there, but it is being overlooked by the US media.