I had been pressed with doubt for some time. When I was in prayer or reading my Bible, darting thoughts and fears pecked at my mind. It was taking the joy out of my relationship with the Lord. I Finally decided to put my unspoken fears and doubts into words. To write them down as honestly as I could before the Lord.
For some reason :) ... As soon as I spoke the truth before Him, my doubts disappeared.
No real answers ... just a peace that passed understanding in spite of not understanding many of Gods ways. God understands our doubts ... and strenthens our faith.
DOUBT
When prayers aren't answered
When I am tempted more than I am able
When church bores me
When Bible reading and prayer don't work
When money problems drag on and on
without purpose
When "Christian experiences" are only coincidence
When the joy of Christianity is empty talk
When little children suffer for someone else's pleasure
When your promises aren't true
In these strange and terrible moments of doubt
The knowledge that Christianity is pointless overwhelms me
Either something is wrong with God
Or something is wrong with me
Where are you God? Or are you?
Glome 1978
(3rd yr at Calvary Bible College)
Ps 37:23-24
23 The steps of a man are established by the Lord, And He delights in his way.
24 When he falls, he will not be hurled headlong, Because the Lord is the One who holds his hand.
NASU


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You've taken your doubts to the right place. God is good.
-Mark
Seek and you will find ... but let God write the script. You remain the commander of your life in this world but let the Father be your Navigator. You seek for this truth: You are your heart and, because in your heart the Heart of God is laid, you are innocent still.
Let God hold your hand and guide you to experiencing this truth and you will indeed find your way home.
Light and blessings to you, Glome.
Magi
Not for answers
but because we
are apart of him
as he is of us.
I acidently hit your icon and saw (i guess) you highlighted articles. I hadn't read and opened on another tab so I could come read them when I'm through here.
Thanks for coming by.
Since I accepted Christ, it hasn't been a full blown doubt ... just that nagging picking, picking at your brain. when you get down to pray or encourage someone ... a doubt not even put into words. Just floating around your head. It could be the rationalization of my old nature or an attack by an unholy spirit. It wasn't strong enough to make to change directions of my life but sapped my energy. That's why I decided to just get all these shadows written down as boldly as I could. Seeing them clearly and holding them out for God to view also seemed to defuse them. Thanks for coming by and commenting.
Miracles do wonderful things in life; I agree with you. Something we've noted, (in our family talks) miracle come where faith seems already established today. They are a joy and reinforce faith certainly. But Jesus used miracles, sometime, to prove who He was so they would believe. Of course, who knows what He does all around the world. I have heard that He has appeared to Muslims, even in their mosque, to win their love. But to the Church in general maybe ... He doesn't seem to use them to create faith but to reinforce. How do you see it?
Sharing these passages . . .
2 Chronicles 16:9 - AMPLIFIED BIBLE
9 For the eyes of the Lord run to and fro throughout the whole earth to show Himself strong in behalf of those whose hearts are blameless toward Him. . . .
2 Chronicles 16:9 - New International Version
9 For the eyes of the LORD range throughout the earth to strengthen those whose hearts are fully committed to him.
2 Chronicles 16:9 - King James Version
9 For the eyes of the LORD run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to shew himself strong in the behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward him. . . .
The Christian Faith is not built on "doubt". It is built upon a Rock. It is built on Faith. WE must BELIEVE that He is Who He says He is, and that He can do those things He says He can do. Without doubt, without waivering. Doubt is not Faith.
There are many Christians who have yet to experience God's POWER. Many who have not had a true talk with God. Many who have not walked with Him. Do not KNOW Him. Yet, they call themselves Christians. Babes in Christ.
I'm looking at Cassandra's words here, and I understand what she means. That pulpit scare tactic (referring to the Scripture that is used in your Article) does not instruct the pew people that He Who is in us is stronger than he who is in the world. Nor does it do anything to remind us that God trumps ALL.
Why should we fear the devil? If God be for us, who can be against us? It is one thing to say it -- It is another to BELIEVE it, and WALK in it.
It is by prayer and meditation that we come to the place of revelation. Where we no longer see through the glass darkly. There is POWER in God's Word, yet we must be in His PRESENCE to receive of His POWER.
Christians have the ability to heal, banish, rebuke, turn back, through Prayer and the words of their mouth, all things are possible.
The trouble with this is that our words have power. It is in watching what we speak, and our thoughts that we begin to come in line with a Christ-like mind. For a Christian must have the mind of Christ.
God is REAL. He is a Spirit. And those who worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and in Truth. He is wherever we are. And it is through Him that we live and breathe and move and have our BEING.
When we allow the Holy Spirit to fully work a perfect work within us, we then partake of Heaven on Earth.
God asks each of us, "If TODAY, you will HEAR My VOICE."
Glome ~ Your Article is excellent. It is earnest. It is real.
God Bless You for sharing this.
Blessings ~
Rene
The primary thought i want to get across is to get any nagging doubts out and acknowledge them to God. He knows our hearts and is very willing to remove those doubts filling us with peace instead. Therefore, the ending verses are important.
Thanks for boldness to share your thoughts and ideas. That's the kind of critiquing that is a great benefit for all.
I didn't openly deny His existance etc ... but those thoughts kept pinging me.
Whether those pings were from my old nature or an unholy spirit I don't know. But wherever they were from ... He was the answer. I believe running to Him is an act of faith. Even if a person has doubts, they can choose to exercise faith in Him anyway by asking His deliverance from that doubt.
At least I did ... and He did :)
I'm still not happy with the verses at the end. Please still offer suggestions for the final verses.
Thanks for featuring this rene ... in spite of its problems :)
she passed away, and I wondered was my prayer ignored or was I just not given the answer I wanted, since that time, I still retained my faith, and I have prayed more, and lost more, but I have never doubted again, I just accept that there is a reason why God has called my loved ones home. It is a difficult thing to do, but since I consider myself on a first name basis at this stage of my life, I have turned to him and put all my problems in his hands, and he is taking care of me, so my doubt has ended. I will probably be tested again and again, but I know there are reasons why prayers are
sometimes not answered in the way you want them to be. I am content and at peace. A wonderful place to be.
I don't have to fight doubts now. The blessing of being more mature :) Make that older. :)
I also remember thinking that if she had allowed herself to have a family she could never have accomplished what she had. I can see that turning your back on all attachments could set you free to give your life to others. I'm not that unselfish.
Now everytime I see your bird I suspect you're up to no good. :)
Mother Teresa and I had a very interesting relationship (I'm an agnostic Buddhist, by the way). As I told my husband, if there was anyone who made me inclined to believe in God, it was Mother Teresa.
After Mother Teresa died, I believe her private diaries were published, and they indicated that she had strong doubts about the existence of God. (But I didn't read them myself).
When I related this to my husband, he exclaimed "Wow, she was a lot more enlightened than I thought!" (Being more enlightened she would, of course, be closer to seeing the true nature of things).
I heard the same things about her diary. Didn't know whether it was true or not.
I like many churches ... but I left a formal legalistic church when I received Christ. I found Bible churches to attend. Then we've travelled to many other. Some very good. But knowing and trusting Christ is really what it is all about . My life turned upside down that night.
Oops ... just drifted off to sleep again. Nite everybody. Smooches ... :)
I think it's fair to say that most American Buddhists believe that Jesus was an Enlightened Master. My favorite Buddhist master, Thich Nhat Hahn, consider Jesus one of his "spiritual ancestors." I think a lot of spirituality has to do with which master speaks your language (metaphorically, of course).
Seriously ... He is so approachable. He know our weaknesses and doubts and takes us into situation where they are revealed for the very purpose of confession. It is then we are forgiven and filled with reassurance and faith. God said the faith to believe even come from Him. He said "Even that is not of yourselves" in speaking of our faith.
I like what Marilyn had to say about David.
Having "Doubts", being "Angry" with God, and questioning God about life circumstances and situations are REAL ISSUES. Honest and true to self they all are.
It is how we get to the place of REVELATION. "Transformation" takes place. "Understanding" sits down to relate to us. From there we climb the ladder to "KNOW".
It is not that we will never again question God. It is that we will "Ask" God from a different perspective, with a different understanding.
It is through illumination that the Scriptures open up ~ layer after layer peels off. The "Transformation" takes place. Speaking from the experiences of my spirit and soul, knowing that we each have a different walk and none of them is wrong.
I am grateful that you have blessed us with your deepest thoughts here Glome. We are each made the better for it.
Blessings ~
Rene
I like "It is through illumination that the Scriptures open up ~ layer after layer peels off.
That is exactly the miracle of the Bible! I have been devouring its pages for 46 years and still can't wait to open them up knowing the living words will open new truth to my soul. How can that be? Only because they are a living spirit moving through us pressing the truth and His presence into us.
The verse I found this morning; "The angel of the Lord encamps around those who fear Him and rescues them." That means from everything; seen and unseen; enemy or circumstane; even ourselves. Since 'ourselves' is my most common enemy :):)
Anyway ... enough of that :) ... back to Georgiana. Thank you for posting.
"It is through illumination that the Scriptures open up ~ layer after layer peels off.
Your words are so true . . . "How can that be? Only because they are a living spirit moving through us pressing the truth and His presence into us." ~ Glome
I'd say it this way ~ "Only because they are living spirit moving within us and through us revealing the Truth and His Presence within us".
His Word has been engrafted upon our hearts. We need that no man teach us. We must each learn to "stir up the gift."
I may have mentioned this to you Glome, but bear with me if I am repeating myself. . . . I have been in church all of my life ~ went through every denomination ~ studied various religions ~ and, of course, I still don't know anywhere near as much as I seek to know. I never wanted to be a religious fanatic, I so despise that. Which is the reason why I usually don't speak on it too much.
But, in relation to the Scriptures opening up, or any sacred book for that matter, from my own personal experience, although it is hard to explain -- I wish I could put it in a movie form for you. For me, I believe it happened because I was in a place of wanting to KNOW. I had been in Deep PRAYER, and involuntary fasting. And, I do mean "involuntary", because I have never believed in "fasting". I had begun to have VISIONS (awake). Just picture consistent prayer and sleeping with the Bible under your pillow every night. . . . And, one day, with the Bible sitting before me, the Scriptures began to move. Move, as in you check your eyes to see if you are seeing straight. [I'm leaving one other detail out here on purpose]. Then as I began to read (within me), the Scriptures went deeper and said something not on the page; and nothing that I remember reading before. But it was more that just me reading the Scriptures, if you can walk with me on this. There was an inner Teacher speaking. That is the best way I can describe it. The more I read, the more they opened. I was reading the book of DANIEL.
There was a time when I could complete a Scripture if you said the first two or three words. In fact, I would do this without trying, and I found it very educational to be able to sit and hear a minister speak and I would be able to complete the sentence. It was, of course, the Holy Spirit teaching me. I'm not sure I can still do that. And, I know I cannot do that without being empowered. I was just thinking about it the other day -- how I used to be able to tell you what book of the Bible the Scripture was in -- I can't do that any more. Maybe, I'm just not putting my mind and spirit to it.
Thanks for bringing this back up Glome. When you have done as you have said, . . .
" . . .open them up knowing the living words will open new truth to my soul."
Your KEY word being "knowing". Do share more with us of your thoughts, discoveries, and revelations.
Blessings ~
Rene
Blessings ~
Rene
It takes a lot of living to separate the Lord Jesus from all the 'stuff' we tend to add to our walk with Him. Doctrine is necessary. It gives us a body of truth to begin with. But slowly, as we study and whittle away ... we find He Himself ... His daily presence, His guidance and control is so overwhelming in pleasure and assurance... I guess you're right ... the first two commandments become a delight as their truth really permeates our thick little heads.
I guess we can say "HE" is my religion. :):) Thanks for coming by. I will read a little at your site and get to know you.
Of course many here have had the Spirit communicate with them ... others haven't yet but if they know the Lord will, sooner or later, be blessed to experience him in their spirit in a special way also if they follow after Him. (at least that's what I think ... but who am I to state it as fact?! :) HE is your God.
You have indeed shared under this subject of Doubt at great deal or the joy and urgency of seeking the truth of God as revealed by the Spirt. This is the greatest encouragment we can give each other.
I too want to encourage people, if you aren't sure what the God of the universe has for you, to simply approach Him and ask Him to reveal His truth to you. Then open the Bible and begin to read the Gospel of John. The book of Galatians & the book of Romans.
Please feel free to ask me for any help in understanding either here where others may also benefit ... or by private email. Like rene said, there is so much more in the Bible than the words on the page. The truths of the Eternal Uncreated God were written because He desires that you know Him.
I may be faced with doubt at times but the faith that is deep within me will never permit for me to ever doubt for long.
Thank you. Have a great day.
Thanks for taking the time to comment.
"Of course many here have had the Spirit communicate with them ... others haven't yet but if they know the Lord will, sooner or later, be blessed to experience him in their spirit in a special way also if they follow after Him. (at least that's what I think ... but who am I to state it as fact?! :) HE is your God." ~ Glome
I don't know if people minimize other's revelations or spiritual experiences, no one has done it to my face ~ lol. I have seen people misunderstand the moving of the Holy Spirit in the church. This happens primarily because they do not understand. Sometimes they find it hard to believe. Surely they (at the time) do not have the "gift of discernment" in operation, nor "eyes to see".
It is also, for me, difficult to hide what is TRUTH, and it is also helpful when the Holy Spirit reveals when to speak, what to speak, and what not to speak.
It is important that people know that those with spiritual vision, discernment, insight ~ do not have any difficulty SEEING into another individual the spiritual things that God reveals. There is really nothing hidden.
I do believe, Glome, that there are people following this discussion that want to know more about what I spoke about. There are also those following this thread that already KNOW, and do not in any way find anything minimal about it.
I am enjoying the comments you are receiving to your writing.
HUGE HUGS and Blessings,
Rene
But you know what? At times, the best and most spiritual church is being alone with nature and seeing all the beautiful and perfect things God has given us. It's just you, nature and God. No distractions to take you away from prayer or reflecting on the things that you need to improve on. I feel closer with God while sitting my back porch than I do when I'm at church.
I'm glad you brought up the hypocrasy of many Christians. I think that is such a comlicated issue it would help us all to discuss it. I wonder if we should start a new thread or continue on this one. Hmmmm.
Give me a day or so to think about this. Maybe I can somehow link the two together so it doesn't get too long. I will get back to you shortly. Thanks for posting.
Job had been honest about pouring out his thoughts.
Trusting God with your doubts is still trusting God. God greatly responds to his children saying 'Daddy, I'm afraid.'
You know C, I believe He often lowers us over the clif until we do cry out in doubt. He is always their but we forget to cling to him sometimes. So he helps us out :)
Where's my wedding cake?
Those irritating little "what if ...?' "what if ...?" on and on. Writing them all down felt really great. I gave Him the gift and then a few days later I all of a sudden realized i had been having fun in prayer; hadn't even thought about doubts. Great relief!
Just believe and put your trust in God and He will do the rest
You know old Satan will tempt you every chance he gets
Satan will flee form God's word, when he is at his best
Remember you have dominion over Satan and all the things he says
Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, put your trust in Him, and He will do the rest.
i do not doubt that God is there... it's just that i do not feel like i belong...
Bless you...
And btw ... you are my only pink tulip. I have no idea why your name didn't seem right because I do recognize your personality.
You've come a lot further than you think. Most people think they are just fine. By the time you know enough to know something is wrong ... it means God has been doing a work in your heart.
Please fee free to email me necee, but only if you want to. I'll be praying that God make you strong enough to seek him out. Smooches :)
Actually, that poem is dated 1978 ... so it's been 30 years. But I still note that He lets me walk waiting :) I guess that's what faith is ... trusting. It really is also reassuring that it gets easier the longer we're with Him. It shows He really is changing us and growing us up.
And it was helpful to be honest with him.
Thank you so much for all your visits.
I perceive you to be a wonderful, kind and loving person and I hope you will arrive at the answer that is good and right for you.
May you walk in peace.
I'm sorry I missed your longer post, but I have done the same thing at times and know just what you mean.
Thanks for being so thoughtful.
I forget what I entitled my sermon, maybe "How to Control Your Thoughts."
Doubts are inevitable, because the enemy is permitted to plant them there; they are called "temptation", and we already know that we are going to be tempted in this world. I won't be verbose again here, so here is the "take home message":
Anytime you have a thought that you don't like, for instance a doubt,
OPEN YOUR MOUTH AND SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE THOUGHT/DOUBT.
And for Heaven's sake, try to make the words "God-filled words", for those words are unbeatable. For the Believer, as soon as Angels hear the Believer speaking God-filled words they are REQUIRED to go to work IMMEDIATELY to begin to fulfill them. This is not true of the sinner, because we know (gospel of John) that Jehovah does not hear them at all.
Take home: doubt is defeated by opening your mouth and -- with faith (the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen) speaking forth the WORD to counter the doubt. It will work every time. Read Mark chapter 11.
and it is also said, "without faith it is impossible to please him." (Jehovah).
Actually, those were written over 30 years ago when I was in college. They were just quiet little thoughts pecking around while I tried to pray. I just felt the need to confess to God every doubt I could dig up. He took them away as soon as I told them.
It really wasn't a poem ... just a letter to Him :)
But you're right and I am much encouraged ... that's why you need strong Chrisitan friends.