I am a virgin by choice. The last time I had a woman try 'change my mind', I asked her "Do you think it is a good thing when a man is determined to be faithful to his wife?" She: "I did not know you were married." Me: "I'm not." She: "It is very sweet when a man shows that type of love." Me: "Does a person usually have to practice something to become good at it?" She "Of course." (She said something else too, but I forgot.) Me: "Well, I practicing to be a faithful husband, and that is why I am still a virgin." (I was not dating at that time.) She was shocked because she is much younger than I am. Other very good reasons to value your virginity are outside this article/comment.
Personally I think there is nothing so sexy as an older virgin. Had a 22 year old once and it was pretty exciting. Of course, I like teaching and helping others discover.
Valued Commodity?.....In some countries...yes (and very important to some cultures...right or wrong)! In ours, still today, "some" would consider it a valued commodity....yes!
I will probably be laughed at here, but I think there is something very sweet and innocent about it...man (boy), or, woman (girl)! Too many tend persecute for not going with the flow, or, for being odd and different! If it is important to them, it is important to me as well! I will never forget my first time though.....hmmmmmmm!
It seems that there aren't many left here in our country. I don't mind that so much, but why do they have to start to young. I have heard of 12 yr olds and up messing around! It makes me sad. Sex is something that shouldn't be taken for granted, but the younger people today just think of it as something to do to make the guys like them or something to do to pass the time. They are loosing the sensuality of it.
I believe in the future virginity will be valued once more as in ancient times.
now days girls preform sex acts that keep them virginal............but I feel sex is sex and if you have preformed a sexual act youv'e lost that virginal truth. One doesn't have to have had sex with a man to have lost your virginaty or do you need to be entered into...............
Dunno if it is a "commodity" as such, but it sure seems to carry a lot of baggage these days.
What I find a shame is that discussions around it normally end up being discussions on religion or morality, where in fact it only has partial relevance. There are far more issues around shame, peer pressure, fear or self worth that ought to be considered as well.
For my two cents worth, I believe that somebody who retains their virginity until they have found "the one" should be applauded - but - big but - I don't believe there is any immorailty with a committed couple exploring it before they make plans around, marriage, a family and a life together.
I have always believed in remaining chaste until marriage. Even K disagrees with me on that one, and he's much older than I am.
I don't know if it creates any "value" to most people, though. If they want to consider value in a partner, they only look at the financial bottom line: is this person responsible? How much income will they have? Are they educated?
To most, that is value. Morality, etc., aren't valued much anymore.
Virgins certainly are a commodity. Just the other day I wanted to summon a fiend from the netherworld to smite a Project Manager that just does not understand software as well as he thinks he does. Unable to locate a virgin to complete the ritual, I had to fall back to sending some very unprofessional messages from his unlocked laptop.
I was a late bloomer myself. To me it was an extreme source of embarrassment and not pride. When it finally happened I viewed it so much as a huge relief that I didn't focus enough on the enjoyment of the moment.
depends on where you were in history. some places the courtesans were the more valued. and a lot of virginities were faked. (yes there are tricks that can be used to fool people)
Virginity is a crock made up by Kings and male chauvinists as a sign of their conquests. Any real man or woman could care less as long as you're concentrating on your relationship with him when he's concentrating on his relationship with you. Notwithstanding all that, if a person feels strongly that they should save their first sex experience for someone important, that's not really about the virginity but about the uniqueness of that first time. And that's a personal choice, and shouldn't be a cultural one, like the traditional 'virginity' scam.
Interestingly, the original definition of a virgin was a "woman whole unto herself" - my interpretation, one who depends upon herself - could be wrong about the interpretation - but the thought of being independent and not relying on others for happiness kind of fits into today's definition. After all, to be happy does not necessarily include sexual connotations - but inner peace with oneself - which expands the definition to encompass more women than not these days. So, who's a virgin by this definition? And if so, does that make a virgin a hot commodity? I think so...........it's all in the semantics ~j
I think having a virgin today would be scary. Either she would be about 20+ years younger than me (I'm 38) or she'd be my age and a virgin, so I'd imagine she might socially awkward or a bit of a kook. I'm painting with a broad brush, I know. But, that's my first impression of that scenario.
If we're talking about the quality of the experience from a purely physical sense, then I would go with experience every time. I lost my virginity to an older man, and it was an amazing experience. If I had been with another virgin or any boy my age at the time (17), it probably would have been pretty traumatic.
If I were a virgin too I'd probably want stumble through that door together. But as a shopworn hand me down myself, I'd much rather go with "preowned."
I lost mine in a rape when I was 17. I was devastated. I think that if there hadn't been such emphasis on it in the Catholic church I might have had an easier time. It just added to my shame.
Now I'm an old woman trying to grow it back because I am done, and I'm a pagan.
I finally figured out what OSA means :-) Yeah! I think anything rare is considered valuable - but don't you think 40-year old virgin is just a concept to laugh at? I think there should NOT be a value placed on virginity. It's just another way to demean women down to a sexual object.
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She: "I did not know you were married."
Me: "I'm not."
She: "It is very sweet when a man shows that type of love."
Me: "Does a person usually have to practice something to become good at it?"
She "Of course." (She said something else too, but I forgot.)
Me: "Well, I practicing to be a faithful husband, and that is why I am still a virgin." (I was not dating at that time.)
She was shocked because she is much younger than I am. Other very good reasons to value your virginity are outside this article/comment.
I will probably be laughed at here, but I think there is something very sweet and innocent about it...man (boy), or, woman (girl)! Too many tend persecute for not going with the flow, or, for being odd and different! If it is important to them, it is important to me as well! I will never forget my first time though.....hmmmmmmm!
Good Morning Karen ; - )
I "gathered"...hehehe...you were only taking a "census" here! I didn't mean to imply anything further.....my bad!
You know....."first times"......could be a whole other article eh? (maybe it's been done?)
I am probably much better sticking with "Finance" related pieces!
You just intrigue me!
;-}~~
now days girls preform sex acts that keep them virginal............but I feel sex is sex and if you have preformed a sexual act youv'e lost that virginal truth. One doesn't have to have had sex with a man to have lost your virginaty or do you need to be entered into...............
What I find a shame is that discussions around it normally end up being discussions on religion or morality, where in fact it only has partial relevance. There are far more issues around shame, peer pressure, fear or self worth that ought to be considered as well.
For my two cents worth, I believe that somebody who retains their virginity until they have found "the one" should be applauded - but - big but - I don't believe there is any immorailty with a committed couple exploring it before they make plans around, marriage, a family and a life together.
I have always believed in remaining chaste until marriage. Even K disagrees with me on that one, and he's much older than I am.
I don't know if it creates any "value" to most people, though. If they want to consider value in a partner, they only look at the financial bottom line: is this person responsible? How much income will they have? Are they educated?
To most, that is value. Morality, etc., aren't valued much anymore.
I was a late bloomer myself. To me it was an extreme source of embarrassment and not pride. When it finally happened I viewed it so much as a huge relief that I didn't focus enough on the enjoyment of the moment.
So, who's a virgin by this definition? And if so, does that make a virgin a hot commodity? I think so...........it's all in the semantics ~j
fer a chick....well y"all have wet dreams to right?
Now I'm an old woman trying to grow it back because I am done, and I'm a pagan.
Have fun kids.