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by Tom Gerace
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Talk to Me: Gather CEO Chat (March 11, 5 p.m. ET)

March 11, 2008 04:45 PM EDT
views: 273 | rating: 10/10 (45 votes) | comments: 174

I would like to start by thanking you for joining me today.  As always, I look forward to the great dialogue and thoughtful input these live chats generate. Our latest release, Guthrie, brings you improved privacy controls on your profile; the ability to group your connections into "friend sets"; a simplified registration process and a "Getting Started Guide" for new members; and a Gather Help Desk run by our Support team who will be on hand to answer your questions.  These are very exciting changes and great steps in making your Gather experience more relevant to you, your friends, and your family.

For those who are joining this chat for the first time and even for those who are returning to let me, and the entire Gather team, know your thoughts.  I encourage you to voice your opinions about everything Gather.  I will be here for the next hour to listen and respond to your thoughts and ideas in the comment section below—so let's get started.

 
All the best,
Tom Gerace, CEO
gather.com 
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Comments: 174

flit . Mar 11, 2008, 4:06pm EDT
me three re: chat rooms.... seems like rather a lost opportunity for Gather... as it is there are a bunch of us heading over to Boomertowne to chat in the gather.com chat room in the evenings.
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flit . Mar 11, 2008, 4:11pm EDT
re: points & cash .... just a reminder that we Canadians are still waiting ~patiently~ ... okay ...so maybe not so patiently
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Sue M. Mar 11, 2008, 4:26pm EDT
Moh, Sheila, April, vickie and Sophie... as you can see Tom is avoiding the copyright issue. He did this in his last chat as well, so don't expect an answer this time either...
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Marty S. Mar 11, 2008, 4:34pm EDT
Copyright is a slippery slope. Mostly, I think Gather awards points based on numbers of times pages get looked at by individuals.
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flit . Mar 11, 2008, 4:39pm EDT
the copyright issue is not specific to Gather - it is an internet problem in general - which I would like to see Gather respond a bit more strongly to complaints - I don't understand what people think they can possibly do to solve a problem that is NOT THEIRS

anything that is posted on the Internet is fair game. Disabling right-click menus, which some seem to be promoting does NOTHING toward solving the problem, and has a serious cost in terms of usability - and results in people who have no patience for being inconvenienced and treated like thieves (like me) leaving - for no benefit whatsoever because it is SO easily overcome.
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Sue M. Mar 11, 2008, 4:39pm EDT
Tom... haven't heard from you in ten minutes... little hard to chat if you don't chat back.
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Cheri Cabot Mar 11, 2008, 4:41pm EDT
Any thoughts on a count of how many people have viewed our site? I know a lot of people are reading my articles but choose not to comment, or send me comments via e-mail....I would just like to know how many people are actually stopping by my site.
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Tom Gerace Mar 11, 2008, 4:45pm EDT
Welcome everyone! Great to be back with you!
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Tom Gerace Mar 11, 2008, 4:47pm EDT
(and that was entirely too many exclamation points). I know we have some great items in queue today based on the conversation on the site. I look forward to chatting about copyright/image protection, points and earning, future releases, and anything else on your mind.
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kitchenMage (wizard of flour and chocolate) Mar 11, 2008, 4:47pm EDT
Tom, random question that's not about Guthrie, searching or copyrights because you deserve at least one. *grin*

I was looking at Gather's stats recently (at the place that you use to publish stats for advertisers) and noticed that the fourth most popular subdomain on Gather is http://spanishpoemas.gather.com/ which I found fascinating. Not what I would have expected. Care to posit a theory as to why this is so popular?
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Apryl Just Apryl Mar 11, 2008, 4:47pm EDT
Hi Tom, any word on how long before we begin receiving notifications?
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Mary Ann S. Mar 11, 2008, 4:47pm EDT
I just wanted to say Thanks, I love Gather.
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Tom Gerace Mar 11, 2008, 4:48pm EDT
I also want to offer a brief apology to those group owners who received a lot of unintended mail from our notifications system today. We discovered a small bug that sent and awful lot of mail that we are working on. In the meantime, certain group email notifications will not be sent. Apologies for the inconvenience all around.
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Tom Gerace Mar 11, 2008, 4:50pm EDT
Hi Apryl- Notifications have already been turned on for member to member activity. We have temporarily turned-off group notifications while we repair the minor bug I mentioned above.

If you aren't receiving notifications you think you should be, please let our member services team know and we will take a look with you.
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Bridget ♥ Mar 11, 2008, 4:51pm EDT
Hi Tom
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Apryl Just Apryl Mar 11, 2008, 4:52pm EDT
I have been receiving article notifications but onlu about one out ten articles for me posted
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Bridget ♥ Mar 11, 2008, 4:52pm EDT
I'm wondering how Gather is doing. there has been lots of talk about Gather going "under", point flow on the decrease and things along those lines. Is there something us members aren't aware of?
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Tom Gerace Mar 11, 2008, 4:52pm EDT
Hi Bridget- thanks for joining us!
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Ang, inspired by good, G. Mar 11, 2008, 4:53pm EDT
Hi Tom
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Tom Gerace Mar 11, 2008, 4:53pm EDT
Apryl, I will ask our member services team to reach out to you directly.
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Ang, inspired by good, G. Mar 11, 2008, 4:53pm EDT
I really like the new feature where I can choose who to post pictures too.
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Apryl Just Apryl Mar 11, 2008, 4:54pm EDT
I wanted to also shout out major kudos to Chuck. It seemed I was having an identity crisis and was three different people when I logged on this weekend. He was on top of it from the beginning.
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Apryl Just Apryl Mar 11, 2008, 4:55pm EDT
Thanks, Tom!
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Tom Gerace Mar 11, 2008, 4:57pm EDT
Hi Bridget- Thanks for asking about Gather. First, Gather is healthy and growing. We are on a path toward profitability (a good thing for a start-up), with a growing adult audience that has proven attractive to a lot of sponsors and advertisers. We are also backed by a terrific group of investors like Hearst, McGraw-Hill, American Public Media Group, and Allen & Company, all of whom offer the company strong financial support as we grow.

The number of points we are distributing has not decreased. We regularly update the algorithms used to distribute points, so that might change individual user experiences, but points continue to be awarded at a healthy rate.
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Sue M. Mar 11, 2008, 4:58pm EDT
You bet there is alot of interest on copyright protection/content protection, Tom!
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Sherry W. Mar 11, 2008, 4:58pm EDT
I've consulted with a few other members who have the cash option, and we've all come to a consensus: We'd really like to have one of the two following options -

a) The ability to see both our current dollar amount in earnings (in whole dollars) and the corresponding value of those dollars in points (eg, the display would say '$2 / 145 Gather points), or

b) The ability to see our current earnings in dollars and cents (eg, the display would say '$2.23' or what have you).

As you know, dollars move very, very slowly, so it would be nice to have a way to gauge how we're doing. Is something like this possible? If not, why is that?
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Vicky Duggins Mar 11, 2008, 4:59pm EDT
Could we have chat rooms? Ads could be added to them, I don't care. Also, why does it take so long to upload a video to Gather? I tried to upload a 47 second video and it took an hour. It uploaded in 3 minutes on youtube.com
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Ely B. Mar 11, 2008, 4:59pm EDT
Hi Tom
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Ang, inspired by good, G. Mar 11, 2008, 5:00pm EDT
To add to what Sherry was saying, I saw another cash option member was asking to be able to switch bath and forth between points and cash that way the could get gift cards if they wanted to. Is this one possible?
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Bridget ♥ Mar 11, 2008, 5:01pm EDT
Thanks for thatanswer Tom! That's nice to know!
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Tom Gerace Mar 11, 2008, 5:02pm EDT
Ang- I am glad you like the new features that let you share content with just certain sets of friends. We have heard great feedback on this last release, particularly as it lets people share things with close friends that they might not want the whole world to know. It is helping people share more of their lives by letting them have greater control over who they share things with.

I like this feature a lot too, honestly, because I have a few friends who are public figures and don't always feel at liberty to share candid thoughts on a number of topics. With the new friend sets, we are able to have the kind of private conversation we might have in a restaurant or coffee shop, sharing ideas or life experiences among ourselves.
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Tom Gerace Mar 11, 2008, 5:02pm EDT
Thanks for the kind words on Chuck, Apryl. I'll be sure to pass them on.
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vickie f. Mar 11, 2008, 5:04pm EDT
I have recieved over 5000 email form Gather in my email at comcast. Needless to say some of them were a month old. Is this going to continue? Comcast will stop delivering if it continues as yahoo has.
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Phyllis R. Mar 11, 2008, 5:04pm EDT
Hi Tom, I too like Vicky would love to have chat rooms on gather!
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Ang, inspired by good, G. Mar 11, 2008, 5:05pm EDT
I too would like chat rooms. They would be great to have on gather.
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Tom Gerace Mar 11, 2008, 5:06pm EDT
Sherry, thanks for the suggestions for display options for members earning cash. One of the things we constantly try to balance is our desire to provide a simple, intuitive interface to people against our tendency to share all the information we have at our fingertips.

I'll suggest to the team that we add cents to the equation (which is probably easier than adding some points breakdown as that might confuse people). I'm grateful for the suggestion.
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Sherry W. Mar 11, 2008, 5:07pm EDT
Thanks, Tom. Cents as an add-on would be helpful.
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Kathryn E. Mar 11, 2008, 5:08pm EDT
HI Tom,

Thank you for this opportunity to speak with you and ask you about Guthrie. (love all the Woody and Arlo , btw.

I noticed that in trying to invite my connections to my groups that only the most recent 50 friends are showing. Can we have more? I invite lumps of people from time to time.

Also, I would like to have more than the current offering of only 500 friends available on the email notifications. There is only ONE place currently where I can VIEW ALL of my connections - that is on my Gather mail list.

My list of 500 friends on my email notifications choosing page only goes up to the letter A. In order for me to find other friends to choose the email notifications, the ONLY place I can go to is my Gather email list.

if I go to MY PEOPLE, I can only see them by recent sign in or other - not by order of most recent, for example, as was previously the case.

Also, it is very difficult to find people using the current options. I appreciate having the member's username available when we connect to them.

But when trying to find someone using search articles, it is very difficult because the search engine returns articles not people.

For example, If I am looking for Jane Doe, (because I don't remember what her username is and I don't know if I am connected or where to find her) I type in Jane Doe in the search articles box and it returns all values with Jane AND Doe in the title and in the articles but not Jane Doe, per se.

Will the FIND PEOPLE option return?

Also, I would like greater options - more people - in our email notifications and also in our inviting members to our groups. I've had some emails with Support about some of this.

Thank you. I will be back after you have signed off.
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Tom Gerace Mar 11, 2008, 5:08pm EDT
Vicky- Thanks for the note. We think a lot about chat rooms. Would you want them in groups or on your own profile page? If in groups, would you let anyone participate on Gather or just group members? Would you suggest letting group owners moderate the chat?

Video loading should not have taken nearly that long! I am sorry you had a bad experience. I'll ask Maryanne to get in touch so that we can learn a bit more from you. Our loading should perform similarly to Youtube or other sites.
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Tom Gerace Mar 11, 2008, 5:08pm EDT
Hi Ely!
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vickie f. Mar 11, 2008, 5:08pm EDT
How are you working on keeping our postings safe from stealing
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Kylee **Queen of Karaoke** S. Mar 11, 2008, 5:09pm EDT
I think that the new "friends" system is great, althought I have not really used it yet because right now I have everybody on the same list and should I need to say something to one friends than I will send them a private message.
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Tom Gerace Mar 11, 2008, 5:09pm EDT
Ang- We have considered letting members simply use points to buy cash payments periodically (in, say, $20 or $50 increments). That way, you could keep points as points, but convert them to cash when you wanted. What would you think of that kind of system?
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Moh H. Mar 11, 2008, 5:09pm EDT
You mentioned copyright issues, so what is up with that? In particular, I would like to know the specifics of the "education" process of caught, known image thieves.

1) How long do they have to show that they've been "educated"?

2) What do they have to do to prove this (remove all other stolen images from their site, I would hope, in addition to apologizing to any Gather members who may have been included in their victim list)?

3) What is the theory behind REWARDING known thieves before any rehabilitation is demonstrated (as happened this weekend when someone caught red-handed last week spent the weekend as one of the featured members on Gather's homepage)?

I will leave the image protection issue to others who, I am sure, will be chiming in soon, if they are not already doing so as I type.
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Ang, inspired by good, G. Mar 11, 2008, 5:10pm EDT
Tom, regarding the chatrooms, I think you should have it to where you can make it private or public. That way we can invite who we want or have an open chat with everyone on gather. Just my opinion. I know there are a few people on gather that I am closer to than others, this way we could spill the beans without spilling it to all of gather.
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sheila h. Mar 11, 2008, 5:11pm EDT
Is Gather planning any increased safeguards to prevent plagiarism?
There seems to be a rash of image and text theft lately...
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April H. Mar 11, 2008, 5:12pm EDT
I would like you to adress copyright issues. There has even been a group created to out the violators and I think that violates the TOS. Please let us know what youy think
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Kylee **Queen of Karaoke** S. Mar 11, 2008, 5:12pm EDT
Does that mean that one does not have to reach 3,000 points a month in order to receive the cash option that we can get the cash option whenever we want.
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Ang, inspired by good, G. Mar 11, 2008, 5:12pm EDT
Tom, that would be a great system. I know its hard for some of us to make the cash option each month because we don't have enough time to spend on gather. That way those on points could have the option to get cash too. (Does that make sense, I know what I'm trying to say in my head but I don't think its coming out right.....lack of sleep)
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Janna R. Mar 11, 2008, 5:12pm EDT
I have a couple of questions about subscriptions being canceled. I posted them on Jim Bostick's article but never got an answer so I'll repeat them here:

Jim Bostick said: "I see a few of you seem disappointed to learn that the subscribe option will be removed in the future. We understand what your goals are with subscriptions and you will still be able to accomplish those goals."

Does this mean that even though you are removing subscriptions, I will still be able to follow the work of Gather members without connecting (I mean becoming "friends") with them? That there will be a similar feature that will allow me to:

--"test drive" a possible new connection/friend before initiating or accepting a connection/friend request? I liked the subscription option because it allowed me to see exactly how much a potential new connection/friend would impact my "My Gather" experience (ie. would they dominate the comments and articles for me or not? Is their content and commentary of interest to me for the long haul?)

--watch for articles and comments by specific folks without having to become their "friends" (or forcing them to become mine)? I subscribe to you (Jim), Tom and MaryAnne to keep up with what's new or going on with the site. Will I still be able to do this without becoming your friend (not that there's anything wrong with that...) or bookmarking your namespaces and remembering to check for new stuff periodically?

If that's not the case, Tom, will you be my friend?

Additionally, re: Guthrie--At first I thought I'd have no use for "friends sets" (I hate the new "friends" vs. "connections" term, by the way--in some cases, it's more of a commitment than I want to make, and I've only got 55 of them...), until someone from Support informed us that we'd be able to customize our My Gather pages to only show the articles, comments and images of specific "friends sets". I am *thrilled* that we will have this capability to customize our My Gather page in the future. Thanks.

Other than the new terminology (and some initial confusion over setting up friends sets (why are ALL My Friends/connections called "All Friends" in one place and "My Friends" an inch away?), my only gripe is that the "Most Read" articles list (the only "Most List" worth looking at) still remains horribly inaccurate (with articles from 2005?!).
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Phyllis R. Mar 11, 2008, 5:13pm EDT
I agree with Ang regarding the chatrooms, - would like the option to make it private or public!
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Sandy (Site Psychic™) Knauer Mar 11, 2008, 5:13pm EDT
I am also disappointed to see that you are doing away with subscriptions, for the reasons Janna and Edward state. I subscribe to people that I am sure don't want my silliness on their My Page comment section, but whose work I don't want to miss. If you remove subscriptions, I will miss some of those people.
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Tom Gerace Mar 11, 2008, 5:15pm EDT
Hi Vickie-

Gather gives you a lot of control over what emails you receive. Our new release helps members to set email preferences when they register for new accounts and connect with new friends.

If you have been a member for a while (and are connected to a lot of people or a member of lots of groups already), you might be receiving more mail than you would like. You can change your email settings bu clicking on the "my account" link on the top right of your screen. After you click that link, select "Email Preferences" near the top of that page. There, you will see the option to turn on or off the email you receive from Gather.
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~Lady Neeetah of California~Obama #44 W. Mar 11, 2008, 5:16pm EDT
Howdy Tom,
and Vicky -- great, great idea about the chat rooms, both public and private!
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Tom Gerace Mar 11, 2008, 5:16pm EDT
Thanks Phyllis and Ang for the feedback on chat rooms as well!
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Kate F. Mar 11, 2008, 5:17pm EDT
hi tom - thanks for taking the time to chat with us today! i'd very much like to hear more about what else gather has in the pipeline.
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vickie f. Mar 11, 2008, 5:17pm EDT
I have done all that but am still recieing emails by the pages.

I still am waiting for an answer on the stealing, It is much more important then anything going right now. And will decided if I stay at Gather or not as with alot of people, some who have left already.
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Priscilla (wishing I was in Costa Rica) ~. Mar 11, 2008, 5:19pm EDT
I agree with Sherry's idea & would love to see that come to light! Points/Cash showing for those on the cash option....
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Kris M. Mar 11, 2008, 5:20pm EDT
Hi, Tom -- how about a change in the way the "My Groups" page is presented? Connections/friends appear in order of connection, but groups come up in no order at all and often I've found myself scrolling through 8 pages just to find one group. Couldn't they either appear in alphabetical or chronological order? If friends are ordered, it seems only reasonable that groups could be, too.
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Sophie S. Mar 11, 2008, 5:21pm EDT
Hi Tom,
I came here today to see if anything was going to be done regarding copyright issues that others have already addressed.

I have seen the cookie cutter comment that has been sent to members who have reported image abuse on this site and I have to tell you it makes Gather appear to have no integrity at all.

It all comes back to the big question What Would You Do? You know about it, you see it, are you going to be one more person that stands by and watches.

Very disappointing.
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Priscilla (wishing I was in Costa Rica) ~. Mar 11, 2008, 5:23pm EDT
Tom, this isn't a bad idea you had either:

Ang- We have considered letting members simply use points to buy cash payments periodically (in, say, $20 or $50 increments). That way, you could keep points as points, but convert them to cash when you wanted. What would you think of that kind of system?
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vickie f. Mar 11, 2008, 5:24pm EDT
I agree with Sophie, it is dissapointing, not even an answer on the subject!!!

People is what made this site right? Now you let them down and what should they do?? What would you do Tom?
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Lune Wolfsong Mar 11, 2008, 5:26pm EDT
We have considered letting members simply use points to buy cash payments periodically (in, say, $20 or $50 increments). That way, you could keep points as points, but convert them to cash when you wanted. What would you think of that kind of system?

I love this idea.
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Sherry W. Mar 11, 2008, 5:26pm EDT
Hang on guys, I'm sure he's getting to the image/copyright stuff. If you look, he's been going in order. (And I'm a cynic saying that!)
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Moh H. Mar 11, 2008, 5:27pm EDT
Yah, Sue, you seem to be right.
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Tom Gerace Mar 11, 2008, 5:28pm EDT
Whew, Kathryn! That's a great list. Thanks.

Ok, let me hit them from the top:

1) On Group Invitation Limits: I am not sure why group invites are limited to 50 people, other than the desire to prevent massive group spam. I will inquire and see if someone from our product team might answer here as well.

2) On Email Settings Limits: There are some practical limitations to how many setting can be changed in a database at one time. 500 people X 5 settings = 2,500 potential settings to be changed. We are currently testing system performance at 500 people. If things look reasonable for a few weeks, we will try to extend that in gradual steps to make this easier.

3) You can still search people at the very top of the Gather page. Pull down the menu that reads "search articles" and beneath that you will see an option for "search people." from that page, you can also access "Advanced Search" which will give you more choices.

Did that answer your question on find people?

I will ask our support team for your feedback on additional notifications as well.

Thanks!
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April H. Mar 11, 2008, 5:28pm EDT
We should not have to be the copyright police, but it is totally unfair to us who earn our points or cash by our work and others earn it by stealing. We should not be outing these members it brings negativity to the site . As the owner of this site someone at gather should take measures to stop this.; and not themembers.
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Sherry W. Mar 11, 2008, 5:28pm EDT
So here's a related question: If you were to implement the 'buy cash payments' option, would the money wind up costing more than the GCs, or would the values be equal? I guess I'm just wondering if there would be some sort of 'reward' for those on the cash program... or would the reward simply be being allowed to cash out for ANY amount as we currently can? Just wondering - doesn't matter either way to me.
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Kathryn E. Mar 11, 2008, 5:28pm EDT
I don't think Tom is avoiding it but it is a complex and a legal question and he probably cannot answer it fully at this time. Just my two cents.
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sheila h. Mar 11, 2008, 5:29pm EDT
I think we should post as much non original material as we possibly can since copyright issues and plagiarism is A-OK..AND rake in all that easy dough for our efforts!
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Lune Wolfsong Mar 11, 2008, 5:30pm EDT
I am also concerned about the copyright issues. I hate to see so many people leaving over it, and it's aggravating to see habitual offenders able to go blithely on with it or worse yet rewarded for it. I understand that we can contact the copyright holders and let them know to come defend their rights if they wish, but it doesn't do much to make me feel that comfortable posting work here.
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sheila h. Mar 11, 2008, 5:30pm EDT
I am being facetious..yet many are doing just that...
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Diana Raabe Mar 11, 2008, 5:30pm EDT
If you go to some kind of "chatting" option, is it possible to use a different URL - or at least a dedicated server - for that kind of activity, lest it slow other operations down?
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vickie f. Mar 11, 2008, 5:30pm EDT
Normally Sheila I would agree but it would not be fair to the peoples work one might copy.
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Edward W. Mar 11, 2008, 5:31pm EDT
My concern relates to Janna™ R.'s comment.
The "Subscription" option works for me when I have other Gather member whose articles and/or images I'm interested in, but they're not necessarily interested in mine. It is a way to have their contributions show up in my "Articles for me" and "Images for me" section without burdening them with mine occupying space in theirs.
When the subscription feature eventually gets eliminated, is there going to be some way to select which "friends" get their content shown and which don't? Or, even better, having the ability to separately select "Articles", "Images" and/or "Video"?
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Sherry W. Mar 11, 2008, 5:32pm EDT
(I'm with Diana on the dedicated server for chatting idea - it could REALLY slow things down here without one!)
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vickie f. Mar 11, 2008, 5:34pm EDT
I guess I got my answer, as a artist I will not be posting any more art so it can be stolden or copied. This site is whatever you want to take its ok and the word is getting out through the net as well. I read some comments on it awhile ago on another site.
Sad I liked it here.
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April H. Mar 11, 2008, 5:34pm EDT
CHats would be a nice addition, personally I do not like them I only go to them on Boomertowne to get my points. So I do not see myself using them , but I think others would like them
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Kathryn E. Mar 11, 2008, 5:34pm EDT
The search articles is still difficult when you only have a member's name. To use a real examlple, Sarah Honenberger, I can only get to her articles by using the advanced option. Using Search articles by plugging in her name, articles with or by various Sarah's appear.
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Karen M. Mar 11, 2008, 5:36pm EDT
Hi Tom -

I am playing catch up, but if it hasn't been asked, I would like the option of grouping our groups into sections like we do our friends !! Any chance?

Also, any chance of new kinds of gift cards or a promotion in the near future? Just curious!
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Renda B~surviving the storm by dancing in the rain. Mar 11, 2008, 5:37pm EDT
There are many good ideas and questions on this thread. I will wait for those answers and not ask the same question(s) or make the same comment(s) as those above. I do have a totally different question...

Why can you not come up with a form to block an individual(s) from commenting or rating content if they are all ready blocked from sending emails? I would think that this would be easy to incooperate in the software. If I have them blocked from sending me email, then I don't want them rating or commenting on my stuff either. Yes, I could just publish things for my "friends" to see, but possible "new friends" wouldn't be able to see them then.
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Dee - Nature Babe! Mar 11, 2008, 5:37pm EDT
Marty but is it by View, which is not counted on ones page, or by the comments one actually receives and can see the count off?

My e-mail notifications work. For now.

As far as copyright, not getting into it. But I do not want to have to post AWFUL pics just so one will not want them. that sucks!
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April H. Mar 11, 2008, 5:38pm EDT
I too wish that we could have an update to the groups as we just have had for friends. If I could only groupthem by topic that would be wonderful. It would make it easier to publish
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Moh H. Mar 11, 2008, 5:38pm EDT
Something else for you to fix - could you please do away with those silly gold/orange balloons around comments? The only purpose they serve is to slow page loading WAY down. The content is all visible, then we sit and wait while four images for each balloon loads.
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Sherry W. Mar 11, 2008, 5:38pm EDT
Oooh, I share Karen's question about promotions! Any in the works? I loved last year's photo promo - the 10 points per image one. Of course, 5 points or whatever would work just as well, in case Gather's not wanting to distribute quite as many points this time....
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John Philipp Mar 11, 2008, 5:38pm EDT
Kathryn, I seem to remember that Kevin once said you can search by typing "Sarah AND Honenberger" in the search box and then you only get articles with both names.

I just tried it and got 5 articles.
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Lune Wolfsong Mar 11, 2008, 5:39pm EDT
I'd love to be able to group my groups.

Chats would make things easier when participating in discussions like this. Following and participating in the conversation as things are is a bit of a pain.

But I'm far more interested in the copyright topic and await the answer on that.
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Kathryn E. Mar 11, 2008, 5:40pm EDT
Renda, you can remove their comment. Blocking an individual from commenting I would think might be difficult. Also, they don't know they are blocked from sending you an email so unless you have told them specifically you don't want them to comment (and your only option is to remove their comment) they have no way of knowing.
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Janna R. Mar 11, 2008, 5:40pm EDT
Why wouldn't you do a PEOPLE search for Sarah Honenberger and when she comes up (first result), go to her page to access all her articles? Or am I misunderstanding what you are trying to do?
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Moh H. Mar 11, 2008, 5:41pm EDT
I don't see much use for the grouping of "friends" (also do not like that term. It degrades the value of the word "friend" when it applies to the whole world). I would, however, like to make a grouping of individuals who I do NOT want to see my stuff. THAT may help me cut down on thieves since it has been stated in many places that Gather seems to think these friends groupings are actually going to solve something (they're not).
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April H. Mar 11, 2008, 5:41pm EDT
I agree with flit about the right click option. I would not like it. And it does not serve the purpose.
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Kris M. Mar 11, 2008, 5:41pm EDT
Also, please consider me another member concerned about the constant copyright violations. No one should feel safe putting work on a site that allows this to continue.
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Tom Gerace Mar 11, 2008, 5:41pm EDT
Vickie F and Moh H. - Thanks for the questions on content protection/theft.

First, under our Terms of Service, you maintain ownership of your own content when you post it here on Gather. That means that your rights under US and international copyright laws and treaties apply to original works shared here.

There are a number of things we have done to protect your work already:
- We make clear in our TOS that you own your work and that members may not copy or redistribute your work without your permission.
- We create a "time stamp" on your content, showing when you posted it. This helps you demonstrate "first use" online, documenting when you shared your work so that you can show that you posted it before others if it is misused.
- We enforce our TOS, removing stolen content from Gather when we receive a notice from someone who owns a copyright that someone else is misusing their content.
- We remove members from the site that repeatedly use stolen content. (Moh- the first time we see a violation, we remove the content and educate the member. The second time, we remove the content and give a "last chance" warning. The third time, we close the account).
- We allow you to share content with only your friends (or just certain of your friends), letting you share your work with just people you trust.

We do not intentionally reward people who use others' content through features or any other means. I hope you all know our team better than that. We are human, though, and can't verify ownership of everything shared here. Sometimes, that means we make mistakes.

There are other alternatives for enhanced protection that we are examining:
- Adding "watermark" technology to the site to let you mark photos you post
- Adding technologies that look for similar images/videos/songs to ones posted
- Adding inhibitors (like attempting to disable right clicks in browsers) that make it harder for the less technically sophisticated users to download content. Note that these techniques do not prevent copying entirely as the savvy technologist can usually capture nearly anything that is sent downstream to her computer.

We would love suggestions and examples where you see others doing a better job. We want people to share here. One way that we encourage that sharing is by letting you share what you want with whom you want. Another way is to make Gather an increasingly safe place to share your work.
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Renda B~surviving the storm by dancing in the rain. Mar 11, 2008, 5:41pm EDT
Kathryn, thanks. I know that and have told the person....but it didn't do any good. I picked up a few connections from my latest article and wouldn't have gotten those if I had only posted it for my friends to see.
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Kathryn E. Mar 11, 2008, 5:42pm EDT
But how do we look for people for whom we may not remember both names and who may have commented a long time ago.
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Tom Gerace Mar 11, 2008, 5:42pm EDT
Kylee- I am glad you like the new friends system. Stay tuned for even more exciting benefits from having different sets of friends next month!
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