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-Tom
The team and I have been talking about how to keep people in better sync with the groups that matter to them. Stay tuned until our next release, (codename: Hawthorne), where we hope to have a solution for you.
This past week's challenges have not been related to problems in Gather's software or systems. We use a partner (called a CDN or Content Distribution Network), Akamai, to more efficiently serve images and videos around the world. Akamai has more than 20,000 servers spread across the planet for that purpose (having servers closer to people means a faster serving time).
What happened last week was that, in updating a few settings with Akamai, we accidentally severed the connection between their servers and hours. In the half our it took to correct the situation, most of the files on their 20K servers were removed. It took a long time to put them back in place.
We're really sorry for the inconvenience. We are updating our operational procedures to make sure it does not happen again.
About the only thing I'd really like to bring up is sorting issues. I publish different things, but typically have specified groups that the different items go to.
I think it would be great (and easier on us), if we could make up pre-sorted lists of specific groups.
For instance, if I'm posting an article about my children, I have about 10 groups I post it to. I would love to be able to add them to a list, so all I would have to click is a customizable link that will automatically insert those groups to the article.
Does that make sense? I'm not sure I'm complaining it right.
With our upcoming Guthrie release, we are creating a wizard for new members that will help introduce them to the site and get them started. We will have several additional releases as well that will make the Gather experience easier for new folks too.
With Gather getting easier, we thought it made sense to let the guides share the things they love (creating a richer experience overall), instead of focusing the Guides' talents on Gather.
The tree system you suggest is interesting. I'll pass it on to our product team. We were also considering letting members find groups with a simple search (e.g. "poetry" and bringing-up all groups that included poetry in their name or tags. What do you think of this solution?
Now that you've seen and gotten many complaints regarding the use of alters (when used inappropriately - DB1s, nasty comments, general nastiness), have you considered changing your allowance of alters or users to have multiple accounts?
Second part of the question: If you are dedicated to allowing alters, has there been discussion amonst you about how to handle those that abuse the system? It has come up in the past that the Powers That Be don't do anything - and when they do something, it takes forever or is not handled efficiently.
a simple improvement would be for the public comment section to just list the last comment on any one article so that you do not see fast chats taking up the whole page.
similar for the personal comments, just my last comment on any particular article would help to condense the pages and increase the information I get from any one page.
hope that makes sense.
I wouldn't mind seeing new gift card choices, but honestly, I think bringing in things like Target or Walmart (as many users have suggested in the past) would bring in people who are just here FOR that.
I will admit, though, that the points and gift cards are what brought me to the site. However, I found a quality site I enjoy using, and would stay even without the points.
The next update will be focused on allowing members to organize friends into friend sets (see above comment to John S) and then allowing you to share with just the friends you want. It will also include the registration process I mentioned to Cheryl.
We have lots of great stuff in the works, too, for a couple of months out...but I don't want to ruin the surprise.
In light of the incident last week with one of my photos posted on Gather being stolen by one of my Gather connections and used for profit on Zazzle.com, and the massive response from the Gather community, we all need to know if efforts are being made on this!
Did this help?
I think harrassing members should be a banable offense- for all ego's involved. Erm, I mean "Alter Egos", not just egos. ;)
forgot to say gather is a very interesting experiement and you guys have done a good job with it.
Can we talk about the search algorithm?
Why are searches based on ANY of the words, not ALL of these words? If I search for 'kitchenMage" I get ~100 articles, but if I add a word I get MORE results, not fewer. That is backwards from what you would expect. Also, if I search on 'kitchenmage AND beth" (my test) I get ONE article, which is also wrong since I have published a number of articles with both words.
Also, are there plans to make quoted text string searches work on Gather? It is such a great way to narrow searches but it always returns no results. (For those of you reading along, I mean searching for "Gather has seen some extraordinary growth" which should give you this article and little else - only things with that exact phrase. Without quotes, you get all articles with those words...lots of noise.)
I can accomplish these things with Google, but really - it's not rocket surgery, ya know...
~km
Points are earned primarily when other members of the community find the things you share (your content and your profile) to be of interest. The best way to increase points earned is to share things that your friends enjoy, consistently, over time.
When the new search was first introduced, I did a search for members in Michigan. I came up with members from all around the globe, some who didn't even have the word Michigan in their profile.
I was wondering if you have any plans to make moderating groups easier? When we bring up our list of owned groups, it would be so helpful to be able to see if there are any posts awaiting moderation rather than having to click into each group just to get that information.
Additionally, adjusting member's settings requires hunting through the pages of members, which is very time consuming. If the functionality to change the settings went with the member whenever they posted, that could be so helpful. I.e.: A member consistently posts articles which do not belong in your group. On the 1,546th post, you decide as moderator that you're tired of spending all of your time having to review and reject their submissions. If the member settings functionality was available with their posts, you could click right there and change their privilege to post any further.
Features like this could go a long way to making group ownership less burdensome.
Why is Gather's official stance that you will only remove content based on a DMCA takedown notice from the copyright owner?
Is there debate that people are not infringing when they steal, err, I mean publish a Windows wallpaper image? (and can I smack the people who comment about how great it is, leading to a comment thread where the poster lies about having taken it in their personal lily pond...?)
People here are getting away with murder in copyright violations and it is dismaying to see Gather shrugging its corporate shoulders at it.
Why the decision to allow copyright infringement?
Are you revisiting it?
What will it take to get you to do so?
Have a nice day.
In light of the incident last week with one of my photos posted on Gather being stolen by one of my Gather connections and used for profit on Zazzle.com, and the massive response from the Gather community, we all need to know if efforts are being made on this!
"Rocket surgery"?
Tom, you're a geek, right? It's a cross between rocket science and brain surgery - you really should read more Dilbert. :-)
Tom G.--do you guys support Boolean terms in searches? AND/OR /NOT?
No. It does something, but not what you would expect.
btw - I'm really enjoying this thread - thanks
The honest answer is that it is exceptionally hard to prevent the use of multiple accounts/avatars. It is impossible to distinguish between two real people in a household and one person pretending to be two.
We decided to permit them because we had requests from people who wanted to engage anonymously in discussions they were afraid to join otherwise (often about having a specific disease or discussing family issues/abuse/drug use, etc).
As you suggest, our member services team will never scale to respond in a timely fashion to every comment/DB1 that happens on the site. We receive a comment every 3 seconds on Gather and comments are growing quickly each month.
To help members have a better experience, we have made several changes to the site:
1) When you share, you can now choose to let people rate your work or not rate your work
2) When you share, you can also decide whether everyone on Gather or just your connections can comment
3) You can moderate comments, deciding which appear on your work
4) If you don't moderate comments, you can delete offensive comments after they appear.
With our next release, we will take a big additional step in empowering our members to create the experience they want on Gather: we will let you share your work with just those people you want to see it. We think this extra level of control will let those who want to be broadly read remain broadly read, while allowing those who want to have a private discussion to have that conversation, too.
I would think maybe limiting it to X amount per address might be a better way to go- they can have an alter or two, but why would anyone need 50 alters? I'm sure that number is probably more extreme than not, but I don't doubt 1 or 2 people have insanely high numbers of alters.
They could also be used to just "gang beat" on 1 person- several alters all leaving nasty comments, and floods of 1's to dishearten and bully a member.
When he publishes a video, the groups almost never show up until the 3rd or 4th try for him. We both use the same OS, same browser, etc. (xp & ie)
Maybe whitelist/blacklist might be useful here for finer grade
if you use a whitelist only those people or groups can respond,
if you use a blacklist those people or groups cannot respond.
I have one gripe about the way things have been going. I seem to lose or regain the notifications sent to my outside Gather e-mail address whenever there is a system upgrade or adjustment.
This is not a crucial function (I know), but they are an important convenince to me. E-mail notifications are what I rely on to let me know that someone has commented on old articles of mine. I cannot keep track of how many comments are made on each of my articles any other way. I have over two hundred articles and over one hundred images published here.
I would really like to support the idea of being able to search through an individual member's articles. I think that would indeed be a GREAT thing.
We are considering systems that let you: ignore very short comments, view comments by frequently read Gatherers, or look back at other commenting systems.
On a related note: Jonathan- we are actively planning a new commenting system as well, examining threaded comments, better notifications (so you know when someone has responded to you or commented after you on a work). Thanks for the suggestion!
I second that. Even going through my older stuff to find something I want to reference can be a pain!
I will talk with the team about additional gift card and donation opportunities.
On another foot, you commented in an article I wrote about the "front page" of changes coming there soon. How is that working it's way along? Thanks.
Well, no complaints...just wishing some more gift cards of good stores...:)
Thank you for your response, I truly appreciate it.
A couple reactions from the peanut gallery (or maybe just me).....
"As you suggest, our member services team will never scale to respond in a timely fashion to every comment/DB1 that happens on the site. "
-- You're correct and I think it would be a waste of the member services team to babysit each complaint. As a community, I believe we need to be accountable and take some responsibility (and maybe a few just need to GROW UP). Not everything warrants a complaint to member services and we should realize when it has crossed the line and become a valid concern.
As for the changes you listed... Yeah, they are great. But... If only my connections can read my articles or see my photos, how will anyone new know they want to connect with me? I guess in general, I don't know why I, an innocent writer, should have to pussyfoot around and modify MY settings in order to keep one or two mean-spirited alters from creating havoc.
The problem is a few - not the majority. I don't think that it's fair for you to expect the majority to make modifications in order to please the few jerk alters that tend to bully. In the end, it takes away from why you created the site in the first place (or what it has evolved into being).
Oh.my.goodness. Am I really seeing this?
My main concern is also security. I have removed all my content except two articles that no one would want. I would like to be reassured that our content is safe from plagiarism. Secondly, I would like to know why people are permitted to have alter egos on here. If you cant honestly contribute under your real identity, what are you doing here? 'Nuff said.
For instance, one week could be who we support in the upcoming Presidential race. Another week could be how we feel about organized Religion in the Media. How we feel about raising children in a violent world, our thoughts on new movies, pop culture, etc.
Each week, people look at the challenge, submit an article to the challenge, and it creates buzz on the site- people are writing quality articles, and the site is getting good PR in the process.
Maybe instead of a weekly gift card prize (and I do think that would get more people), offer up merchendise, or extra points. I would even suggest bonus points for participation, which would be given manually, and not automatically. That would cut back on people posting whatever in hopes of triggering an automatic point bonus.
I'd like to share some insight toward this.
As a writer, and not a bombastic abuser of others, being able to make alternate accounts allows writers to explore different "voices" or "characters" for writing in. Although I have yet to do it, I have pondered this often as a way to test run a character and see what kind of reaction it gets.
Additionally, multiple alternate identities allows for anonymous focus-group like polling among the Gather community.
It mitigates the fact that some people would answer a question by jJack quite differently then they would if Devin asked the very same question.
the whole code orange, promotion, for example, left this outsider far LESS likely to ever buy a Motrin product - certainly not MORE
Most adults would also know how to click on the help button at the top of the page. And most adults would know that it is their responsibility to decide which groups their articles belong in instead of hitting "all" and making group owners do their work for them. And most adults do not play "name words that begin with the letter A". And most adults can accept critique without deleting the comment. And most adults do NOT believe they should publish work that does not belong to them.
I hope you were hinting that you think this is an adult site.
The honest answer is that it is exceptionally hard to prevent the use of multiple accounts/avatars. It is (nearly) impossible to distinguish between two real people in a household and one person pretending to be two.
In the end, we decided to permit them because we had requests from people who wanted to engage anonymously in discussions they were afraid to join otherwise (often about having a specific disease or discussing family issues/abuse/drug use, etc). Prohibiting them would have prevented this kind of valuable conversation, too.
Negativly, the site has people who are here ONLY for the points, and only post things in the hopes of earning points, inundating the site with games (which I have posted a few of, and have participated in, I won't deny it!), etc.
Point earning sites, money earning sites, prize earning sites- they all attract all walks of life with one common goal- to earn something free, either in their spare time, or because they have a limited income with no choice to earn more outside the home, etc.
And with that, you get people who abuse the system to get more.
I don't want to see the points removed, I do love them! But they do bring in some negative aspects, but also positive ones.
Apparently you have not had the experiece, as I did last week, to pull up an item on sale on an internet website and find your photo there being used for profit!!!
They can (and I agree with what someone said earlier - they need to do a better job - the only if the author complains thing is a cop-out and not sufficient) deal with plagarised stuff on the site - but there isn't any possible way they can prevent someone from scooping it without locking it down so far that no one can read it... which would rather defeat the whole purpose of publishing it
Thank you.
Good Luck and Cheerio!
Respectfully,
A commentator at heart
> It mitigates the fact that some people would answer a
> question by jJack quite differently then they would if
> Devin asked the very same question.
So someone is allowed to be a total disruptor in one ID
and then hide or even talk back and forth to himself,
to explore characters ... at what cost to the community.
I think Tom was honest back a bit when he said the
problem is finding out, and IP address does not work.
There is no way to prevent it yet, which is a sad but
true answer.
Hooray for this. I'd love some sort of indicator that shows new activity on an article I've commented on that does not involve an email notification.
"For example, some Gatherers mistakenly think they earn points for commenting (they do not)."
I'm gonna quote you on this, particularly to all the comment spammers who leave insipid cut-and-paste comments all over the place in their frenzy to rack up points. Not that they'll ever see it, 'cause they never return to the "conversation". They're too busy in their mission to leave a comment on every single image on the site.
Hey, maybe this revelation will cut down on the plethora of "Name a word beginning with the letter 's'" games, too.
I think Tom has enough on his hands.
It's a risk you take when you put ANYTHING on ANY website... even if they coded in stuff so that people couldn't rightclick and save, they would just do a print screen.
Tom - I concur. I have no complaints being a former computer programmer - I think you guys do an excellent job considering the number of enhancements you have accomplished with very little hiccup on the site. I really don't care about the alternate ego stuff, or the games. To each his own.
My question: when will I be able to apply my points to my mortgage payment?
I look forward to some less technical but more user-friendly updates.
Thanks again.
reality here in a way that is unexpected, and mostly rude.
The price someone pays for not being able to mention they
have hemhoroids for example is a small one, understandable,
but the impact of having multiple people slam someone and
them not knowing it is one deranged person doing it is far
worse to me anyway. But I understand this is hard to
find, and prove if it ever came to some kind of legal issue.
We all understand your stance. For photos, I'd recommend a fairly large and obtrusive watermark through the middle, in an area where it can't be clipped out of the photo.
Let me give that idea a STANDING OVATION !!!
Thanks again.
It goes beyond protection. There is a saying about the company you keep...and as a professional writer/photographer, I am bothered by the amount of blatant copyright infringement here. Makes one hesitate before sending people to see their stuff here if they are asked, as I was, "What's with the people posting Windows wallpaper?"
Gather is a great site. I write for a couple of print music magazines - one of which is called Rhythm, Art, and Groove. (www.ragnews.com). I wanted to check with you and see if it was ok to extend an invitation to our readers via the print mag. I listen to alot of the mp3's and videos. Have you thought about seperating the two? Also, I get alot of press releases daily, sometimes I like to put these up on Gather. What is your position on these? I get them sent to me via publicists, labels, etc. and I have permission to use them. I would like to put the majority of them on gather and have our readers come here rather than myspace, etc. Let me know your thoughts on that. Thanks and keep up the good work!
We take intellectual property seriously at Gather. We know that people invest in creative works and love when they choose to share them here. That's why we are among the most aggressive sites at enforcing copyright violations (when posted here on Gather) of any site that permits user generated content.
Protecting what is shared here from being copied and being used without permission is important to us as well. The first steps we take to do this are related to US Copyright law. We record each item you share as yours and mark the date and time when you shared it. We store that information in our database as well. That creates the legal protections you need should you wish to enforce content ownership against someone who steals content.
Next steps would include making downloading photos or copying text harder. We are investigating options here, particularly given the incident you cite. Most of the systems that do this are easy to defeat given that content on a website has to be transferred in some format to be viewed on another person's computer (that's how the web works). We could make it more difficult for them to take things, however, and we are looking at ways to do that, while balancing the need to make content viewable by users online and searchable by any who should see them.
We hope that our release next week will help, of course, It will allow you to share your images (or other content) with those people you like and trust in the world. You can decide what to share, with whom, once our Guthrie release comes out. If you choose to let just friends view your work, this will create a layer of protection immediately as well.
"That's why we are among the most aggressive sites at enforcing copyright violations (when posted here on Gather) of any site that permits user generated content."
I beg to differ. My understanding is that Gather will ONLY take down copyrighted material if the owner complains with a formal DMCA takedown notice. Is that true?
What is the Gather policy on privacy and data-sharing?
> Copyright law. We record each item you share as
> yours and mark the date and time when you shared it.
Does a user have to do anything special such as mark content
with a copyright mark or say anything special or are you saying
that publishing something to Gather is equivalent to a legal
copyright protection? That is interesting!
I have been flagged for a painting of a nude form. I can't understand that, but it didn't matter because It didn't hurt my post.
If I go and flag a copyrighted image, and Gather checks out the flagged item and realized what it is and removes it. Haven't I done my job to further insure that my own personal work has a place here to be enjoyed and not copied??
But publishing is changing (just like the music distribution world is changing). A number of authors have started as self-published and then moved into a traditional press. Others have started as self-published and done very well for themselves.
We wanted to help authors on Gather that want to invest in publishing their own work do so by (1) having access to a trusted press and (2) having the ability to promote their work through sharing chapters and conducting chats here on Gather. We hope to do a lot more for those that want to invest in creating and promoting their own work later this year.
Hope we didn't tire you out too much, Tom!
I choose not to get notifications so I don't see them there. Any bright ideas for making them disappear from the "Recent Articles" list?
Well, I hadn't really thought about the writer talking back and forth to the character, but rather that the writer gets feedback reactions from readers.
Aas you admit, there is no way Gather could control this other than by IP address, a method that would prevent multiple users who are forced to share one computer, from being able to participate in Gather.
The result is that we have to deal with voices that sound like Imus and Limbaugh, with no way of knowing who those people really are.
Free Speech venues are always messy and controversial.
Whew- Ok team. I am afraid I have to step out of this chat and head to a next meeting (I am five minutes late by Gathertime already). I know that there are a lot of comments here I have not yet addressed (several, in a quick review, that I know I really want to come back to).
My challenge: you guys have me way out numbered. This conversation could (and would) go on for days if we leave it open ended. So we need to have a reasonable way to bring this to a close.
In past chats, I have returned later to continue the discussion; I will do so again today. But I want to be clear about where I will wrap up so it is fair to everyone. Here's the deal:
1) I will be back today and tomorrow to continue to answer questions.
2) I will answer all posts that were posted BEFORE 3pm ET today. I will NOT be able to answer posts after 3pm today (because I need to be sure I leave time to actually make some of these suggestions real)
3) I will make these chats happen at least monthly, if not more often.
4) I will look for a technology that lets us cover more ground in our time together, in hopes that we won't be delayed by my typing skills during future chats.
Many, many thanks to everyone for the great feedback, thoughtful questions, creative suggestions, and discussion today. I look forward to continuing the dialog on this post and in the future with all of you!
I agree. The last time I said I didn't care about points on a Gather-sponsored article, I was told I needed to "get laid...and soon". Guess I was in the minority there. Maybe I just need a "SQL Injection" (whatever that is...).
This would kill several birds with 1 stone. It would appease the anti-gamers because they could just ignore the gamers, and not have to see their articles posted in recent articles.
It would work towards keeping people from arguing- if you can't see what someone posts, you won't argue with it.
It could also work in reverse, but honestly, notifying a person they are ignored and can't view something they are trying to view would also start problems.
Ok, I'm done! I'll check back over the next few days for responses. ;)
Tom Gerace wrote: "The challenge, of course, is differentiating between people who actually create quality experiences for others and those that just do something repeatedly in hopes of earning. Any suggestions?"
I spend the majority of my time here reading and commenting, rather than publishing. I would love to be able to give my points (probably anonymously) to people who do create quality experiences for others and the site as a whole and whose content I enjoy. Something to consider for the future, perhaps?
Having posted to someone's article who keeps deleting me,
I would be fine with them putting me on ignore so I don't
waste my energy, and likewise some people who I see
"discussion disruption" from I don't want.
Thanks Tom, that was an amazing performance of
cool composure under stress - and no discernable typos!
Is the new release named for Woody or Arlo?
As for alters, I have a couple of them. They were created for a very specific purpose (a creative writing exercise in creating a character and a realistic voice). I see no harm in people talking to themselves on their own articles. If they are using them for harrassment? Well, the author does have the right to delete any comment they see fit. If the autor allow others to be harrassed on their articles, and do nothing about it? Well, community, drawing together, is a powerful force.
Tom, thanks for posting this, sorry my own meetings coincided with the chat.
Paul W.- You have some really creative ideas on the Hallmark front and raise some great questions as well. Your posts were really thoughtful and detailed; I hope I can respond in kind.
First, I am excited that Hallmark has decided to promote the Global Fund and build awareness for the fund and the Red campaign here on Gather. As David explained, Hallmark already does invest a significant amount (8% of the proceeds from Red products) to the fund.
AIDS is a massive problem, though, and we can always do more. There are a number of other things we might ask partners to do going forward:
- Consider matching donations (as you suggest) made by members
- Consider a challenge grant (I recommend this instead of making a guaranteed grant a condition to appear here for two reasons: I think any visibility for these kinds of causes is beneficial so I wouldn't want to discourage it and I like that it would encourage community participation for a larger result)
- Consider using symbols that tie directly to the work being done (again your suggestion)
We hope that our relationship with Hallmark will be a lasting one. I will work with our team to improve the program with these and other suggestions as we take next steps.
Diana (Raabe)- Thanks for asking about chat! We are considering instant messaging and group chat technologies for later this year. I'd be interested to know if you and/or other members of the community would be interested in these features. If so, do you have suggestions about how they might work or what features you might like to see?
Pat S- Thanks for your note regarding "Related Articles." We had a number of members concerned, when we launched this feature, that it appeared that they were promoting the content of other members. We therefore moved this feature on the page to make it more clear that these were Gather recommendations and not recommendations by the author.
Disabling the feature (optionally) is another alternative. I expect that, to be fair to all members, we may want to prevent people that disable these recommendations from appearing in the recommendations of others. We would need to weigh this ability to customize the experience against our desire to have a consistent experience for members. I'll take it up with our product team. Thanks again for the candid feedback.
As for chat? Yes please! A number of us already use some articles as chat threads. Until the upgrade that had the link feature, we could get 400 comments on a thread before response degraded. Now it starts slowing at 200 and is a dead crawl by 300. Yes, we do like to chat with one another!
Thanks for such terrific responses.
Is the new release named for Woody or Arlo?
Janna R., Feb 21, 2008, 3:41pm EST
Janna, you read my mind... again.
Please note also that only public content (content you published for "Everyone") will appear in search results.
alternative that avoids long chats is to give
everyone one editable box to resppnd to any
article with, and move the chat off to a chat
client.
If you the kind of discussion you described, let me know!
That is what I inferred from some searched I have done, they only searched the actual text content, not meta-content, names/handles.
I would like to 2nd & 3rd what some others have said about Chat functions. I would love to see that option here. Even Boomertowne has a great chat function. It would be nice to have them open chats or private even.
We use the article threas often as a chat, and we get to know each other very well by doing this & I think it helps to strenghten groups of people here on gather.
It is not so simple as to catch someone's IP address when they sign-up, or log-on because, by far, most IP addresses are in dynamic ranges rented out DHCP by ISP and can change.
You could analyze users' IP addresses as they login, and track if simultaneously two different users are coming from the same IP and track that ... and maybe disallow that.
It would mean that if someone had broadband to a house and a NAT router and more than one person at the house wanted to be on Gather at a time Gather would would be removing that capability or forcing them to upgrade their ISP service.
Countermeasures would include buying broadband with more than one IP address, or in cases at work where one might have two machines on different networks you would not show up - for example someone who uses their broadband and their neighbors wireless network.
I'll bet most people who do such a thing are using one machine, and multiple browsers to login into multiple accounts. All that would really do however is to prevent users from accessing both accounts at the same time.
Is the new release named for Woody or Arlo?
Janna R.
The release name Guthrie is a celebration of all the Guthrie family. Arlo, Woody, and the rest of them.
Roll on, Gather, roll on.
Roll on, Gather, roll on.
Your pixels are turning the darkness to dawn.
So roll on, Gather, roll on.
(sorry, I live on the Columbia...we loves us some Guthrie's)