At 5:30 a.m., this cold and freezing morning, my man and I were having another argument. It was over small stuff as usual, but as always, we had been having more bad times than any of the good. Two days ago, I put the binky in Gracee's mouth gently and told her to 'stop screaming.' He got upset and slapped me across thr face and said, "don't you do that to MY daughter ever again!!" He then went and ruined my reputation and told his co-workers that I was 'abusing her,' so to say and choking her with the binky. I'm surprised a CPS worker has never showed up at my house yet. (In all of this, I had 3-4 days of no sleep and just arguments with him). Technically, I have been doing things since day one.
All I wanted was for him to wake up. Wake up as a father. To help me with changing diapers; to feed her, to play with her, or whatnot. I understand that father's tend to get tired often like mothers, but as my friends have always told me, a good father won't do that to you and will stand by your side and when you're drained, will wake up and offer assistance.
I would always have to ask him numerous times, "Can you please help me?," looking teary eyed in his eyes. He would make excuses, get upset, from lack of sleep, and tell me that I "don't want his help" or when he does something "that I'm always putting him down." It would spiral from there and he would say, "Well, I'm going to sleep."
Let me explain a little, so everyone will understand the situation a little better. I never intentionally tried to put him down when it came to doing things: changing diapers, feedings, etc. I knew he wasn't as well trained as myself when it came to children, and I knew he previously had asked me for advice, so I more then willingly tried offering it when I saw it was needed. Ever since the advice thing - he would always take it as an insult.
Yesterday evening, I asked how his day was at work and he said, "ok" with an attitude. I knew something was wrong, so I kept insisting for him to tell me. I was worried about him. So, I asked him if it had anything to do with me and he still wouldn't talk about it. I dropped it for awhile and went back to the subject later when he was changing her diaper (after I asked him to) and I had to watch him, just to make sure he was doing things right. He got mad and started screaming at me and said, "You just want to start an argument, don't you?"
Now, he considers "asking questions" starting an argument. I never planned to start an argument, but things would always spiral and he would get mad. He never did this in the beginning of the relationship and would always know it was a cocern and action out of love. For ex. : How was your day at work? type of thing. I was never trying to be nosey or pry into his business: I simply cared, that's all.
Eventually from there it began mid morning and he and I were arguing and I was trying to make my point come across to him about how I felt, but he would always get mad, start screaming, changing the subject and trying to play the blame game "so I call it." Then eventually, he got into a rage fit and threw the piggy bank for Gracee (Winnie the Pooh). It broke and shattered against a chair and the change scattered everywhere.
I began to think about what my Grandpa always told me: "If a man hits you once, it will always get worse." I kept having this race through my head endlessly. I couldn't stop crying after remembering what Grandpa told me when I was 15 years old and being assaulted physically by another man. Except for this man, he only tried two physical incidents within a year period : choking me while I was pregnant and hitting me recently. It never left bruising : maybe I'm just one of the lucky ones. I figured since it didn't leave bruising that cops would just drop the case if reported and not do anything about the matter. So I just took it as a "no worry" hit or whatnot.
A lot of things began racing through my head and I kept thinking about him hitting me and say "don't you do that to MY daughter!!," after awhile, I thought about Gracee becoming a toddler and him hitting me (the scenario just going through my head) and her asking, "Mommy, why did daddy do that?" I don't want Gracee to become a female image of a man beater. I never believed in physical abuse, as my father always taught me it was wrong, but I wanted love so bad, I was so desperate in the process, but when it came down to my daughter: Was it either Gracee or myself : wanting love?
I know that I made the right choice, that I love Gracee more than anything in the world : I want what's best for her. So, at around 5:30 a.m. this morning, I told him, "You have till Friday to leave. Your paycheck may help some. Don't worry about buying anything for her!" He got upset and started screaming at me in the room (my dad could hear it going on). He began gathering his things and would moan in the process of gathering them.
Finally when he was about to go, he told me: "Call the police (so I will have a place to sleep) or I will make you call the police." I held Gracee near me and said, "Get out!," yelling while scared and hurt by his previous actions and words.
He said, "Fine, I'll take something to make you mad, so you will call the cops." After I told him initially not to take the guitar I bought him for his birthday; he takes it anyway. I didn't say anything, since it was a gift. He noticed, no expression on my face changing and he gets upset once again, noticing I'm not mad. "Fine, I'll take something else." My mind begins racing : thinking about the baby, all I did was think about her and her only. "Fine, you can take anything in this room but her! You aren't getting her!" He responds, "Fine, I don't want her. In your eyes, I'm not a good father anyway." My response, "I never said that. I said you need improvement." He responds, "Same thing." I drop it at that, trying to not have anymore conflict, as Gracee is laying in her car seat, seeing everything happening with teary eyes.
As he is about to walk out the door, he complains how he cannot take his "dvd collection." Wouldn't you think a father would be complaining about not getting his daughter?
I get upset and speak up and say, "You can have them all. I don't want them from you. You bought all of them. They're yours. I will be bringing them to court, when I file for full custody." He responds, "Don't worry. I will be there, but I will say one thing only." Silent fills the room. "What's that?," I respond. He responds, "I will tell them to give me a cot to sleep on and I'm not bleeding out my check for child support, since I'm already at poverty level income."
Finally he left. After 2 1/2 hours, I began to worry. I went outside to find his duffle bag underneath a vehicle on our property and the guitar up against a tree. He left everything behind, but himself. I tried following his foot prints (tracking my shoes and his, sorta like detective work) and figured out that he had walked toward the abandoned house next door, then he hesitated and walked up the road according to foot tracks. Since the foot tracks went toward the neighbor's house, I kept calling the neighbor once I got home, to ask her if he had come to her house to make any calls or if she had saw him. I was in fear: worrying about him freezing to death and me being held responsible.
When I got back down the road to my house, I called the police station to see if he was booked in jail (to committing a crime on purpose, just to get a bed) and they told me he wasn't in there. I called the hospital next and in doing so, I knew I had to lie just to find out if he was there, so I told him I was his life, technically we aren't married yet, but had planned to getting married. The hospital lady at the desk told me there was no last name of that showing in the ER room. The only next option I could think of, since it was now almost time for him to be at work was his work.
I placed a phone call to his work and a lady answered the phone. Initially, I thought it was his boss and said, "Hi, is this so and so?" She told me no it wasn't and that she had been hurt previously by breaking her tailbone on slippy floor." I felt dumbfounded by not remembering that his boss was hurt, so I said, "Is he there?," asking if he was at work. The lady paused and said, "Yes, the time is right," and told me he wasn't there at work." Once I finally said, "Well, I'll just have the police look for him then," that's when she finally said, "Oh, I think I see him" and hands him the phone.
He picks up the phone, barely able to breath and says angry, "What do you want?" I pause for a moment. "Well, are you okay?" He responds, "yeah, I'll be okay," he says angry. He makes me immediately feel bad and once again, I feel sorry for him and say, "Well, do you want to come back?" and right after I say that, I feel very stupid for saying it, but as a good hearted person, I've always tried to treat others the way I've wanted to be treated. He responds, "No, I won't be coming back. You mise well call the cops if you don't want me to freeze to death." My response, "That's not my responsibility." There is dead silence and then, we both hang up ....
That was the last of conversation I had with him around early morning before afternoon hit. I'm not sure if he will try coming back here or what the case may be or if he will walk in the cold again. It makes me feel bad, but I know for my daughter Gracee and our safety, I have no choice to be back with him. I'm not sure if I should call the cops if he comes back or what I should do. I know if he disturbs or causes problems (if he does come back), I would most likely call the cops, but then again, I don't want to be a burden on the cops because I've had them out in my past when I was a minor due to suicide attempts (and it probably makes them upset at me) and they probably get mad when I do call for help.
But anyway...coming down to what all I've said, I have a few questions:
I've already initially tried breaking up with him.. If he comes back. What is the best thing to do in this situation?
As a single mom, will I ever be able to love another man? Trust another man? And if so, how do I know his personality won't change over time like his did?
Is there support for single moms financially, when father's don't want to pay child support? If so, where do I go to apply? And will I be looked down upon as a "young" single mom?
If not married - am I granted full custody automatically, if not, how do I get it? Do I have to prove it before a judge or is it easy in such a case I'm describing if he doesn't fight it like he says he won't? How do I prove to the judge that I do not trust Gracee in his care.
How do I know that his co-workers will not lie against me in court?
And last.... Are all men like this? I hear they aren't. But if they aren't like this, then how does relationships work without atleast some arguments?
Where are the type of men to : listen when you need them (not get mad or scream), not be physically violent, emotionally or mentally, give hugs, cuddle with you, accept you for you, appreciate what you do, tell you they love you (and don't see it pointless to say it OVER and OVER and OVER), ask how your day was, and what not? Where are those type of men? Do they exist? If so, why haven't I ever run across one of those "good type of men" that lots of women describe? ::Sighs::
Thanks for listening to me vent. hopefully someone can offer advice that has been through domestic abuse. I hope no one finds me at fault of any of this because I know I do not deserve it. Gracee has never been harmed (don't worry, I held her close, when I felt like something might happen), but then agian, I shouldn't have to feel that uptight about things when in a relationship. I simply just : don't deserve it! I never did, but I always wondered how she could live without a father and not be troubled in her teen years? It worries me. Its a mystery how single moms do it. And I'm not sure if I'll ever find love or trust again, but then again, I'm so desperate, I just hope I'll never have to face this ever again.
Hugs to everyone else that has been through similar stuff.
Thanks again for all support.
Michelle




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Best wishes
For any good it will do, I will say:
You're absolutely right about the abuse. That line should never be crossed.
But you're also wrong in how you handled trying to get his help. Many of us make this mistake. They won't want to help us if we stand over them, nitpick what they do - we have to accept a diaper not on quite as we would have done it, things not quite as we would have done them or not up to our standards, else do it all ourselves and have sabotaged their ability to develop a caretaker relationship with the child. His ideas on how to do things, despite your belief in your own abilities, are also just as valid as yours unless it endangers her health.
We don't know it all, no one ever does, and it's better if we realize that, are flexible, compromise - only drawing the line or butting in when asked or when something endangers the child.
I'm sorry for you and your daughter that you're in this situation and wish you a good outcome.
You need to forget about you, you now have a baby and the only one that matters is that baby. The minute he hit you, you should of called the police. So, I am telling you this and you need to do it NOW right this minute not tomorrow. Get an order of protection, if its after hours call an officer now and tell them you are worried about your safety and your babies.
I am here to tell you Michelle in less you get a OP or a judge tells him he can't be there you both have rights to that place. Which means he can't kick you out and you can't him.
Now you ask since you aren't married do you automatically have custody? Nope you don't. Is his name on her birth certificate? Did he sign it? Let me give you little heads up Eric wasn't married to James' mother either he went to fight and got custody of James.
Now Michelle I am not taking sides but I am going to ask you this too. Is he a bad father? My first husband and I couldn't stay married but he was a dang good dad. I am not speaking of the man who abused me I am speaking of my children's father. You need to think about that little girl before you totally take her father away. I don't know all the story here and I am not saying one minute he was right for hitting you no one should hit period. However, I am also saying he can still be a good daddy. Does he do drugs? Does he drink? Has he been arrested for a felony? Has he hit you in a way to leave bruises , break bones? Has he ever neglected the baby or abused her? The courts are going to ask all of these questions. I agree once he hits once he will again. But, I as well believe there are two sides to every story. I am not saying I don't not believe you. I am not saying I am taking sides. All questions I am asking are questions you need to ask yourself honestly. You have spoke before of some arguments between the two of you. If you are going to fight now what are you going to do when you are married? Or a year down the road? The arguing is not good for that little girl.
Yes there are plenty of programs available to help you & your baby, Try contacting a social worker in your county, they should be able to help.
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Good Luck, remember - you are worth the effort!
You need to get out and move on. It is not an easy thing to do but your child(ren) have to be your main concern. As a young boy, I lived for many years with physical, verbal, mental and sexual abuse. Of the four-the verbal abuse is what did the most damage to me in later years.
You need to get out and get out NOW.
As far as your baby, my husband lived in an abusive relationship between his mother and father, and trust me it does rub off on the kids. All four of the kids, my husband, his two sisters and brother have all got PROBLEMS, take heed. Protect Gracees safety, heart and mind.
I wanted so much to stay with me ex, he never hit me before we were married, but he did many times afterwards and even hit me in the stomach. I was very stupid and had low self esteem. I wanted my children to have their father. He just didn't want me or them.
I found someone after he divorced me...and we have been married 27 years last June. He isn't perfect but neither am I. I told him if he hit me I would leave and I meant it. He has kept his hands off of me. He is the love of my life. He is a kind man who helped me raise my first two and our two. There are decent men out there.
I should have made my ex go to counseling and walked away if he didn't. He probably wouldn't have but it would tell me he really wanted me or not. Just because he would come back and say sorry I slept with other people, really hurt as it happened over and over again. He wanted his cake and eat it too. For me it was me and no one else. Thank God we went our separate ways or I might have aids.
My husband now is not as romantic as my ex, but he never cheats on me, he comes home every night and he wants me, even if I am sick and hurting, he wants to just hold me. That is love, not the romantic gifts, notes and flowers.
You are faced with a hard road ahead, don't take the "easy way out" and let him back too easy. Think of yourself and Gracee. I don't think he will look for custody, as who will watch her while he is at work and if he does, it will be hard for him to prove anything, the court is most interested in what is in the best interest of the child. The rest is he said she said unless there are police reports. You have your father there too, don't forget.
When you both calm down, things may look different, but make the counseling a requirement, even if you go together. The lack of sleep may make a difference, but no one, I repeat no one should tolerate being hit.
I can see a pattern of behavior here that is all to familiar. Cut the cord and move on immediately. Contact the places Jeff posted and don't look back. Don't call to see if he's ok. Don't offer to let him come back. Quit enabling him! If you continue in this cycle, I promise you it WILL only get worse until someone is dead.
There's no excuse for abuse, Michelle. None.
Your profile says you're a Christian. Check out 1 Corinthians 13 for a reminder of what love is and isn't. Love IS patient and kind, It is NOT, rude, NOT proud, NOT self-seeking, NOT easily angered. Love DOES NOT envy, DOES NOT boast. Love ALWAYS protects, ALWAYS trusts, ALWAYS hopes, ALWAYS perseveres.
Comparing what you have to what God intended when it comes to love helps discern whether what you've had is love. Love doesn't scream and throw a fit. It doesn't hit or punch or kick. It doesn't ridicule.
Something else to think about. In some states, if a child sees the mother being abused, the child can be taken away from the mother...because it's her job to protect her child from seing and experiencing domestic violence. (It's that way in Michigan.)
Too many of us here put up with the same circumstances for too long. It took me years to break. They make you embarrassed by the situation. It is your fault, you caused my anger, you did this, you did that. First Step...IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT. Many say it, but it is hard to personally understand.
Not all men are like this. Vicki Farnsworth told me yesterday something that makes a lot of sense. "I don't hate men, I just hate a**h**es." He fits the phrase.
Grace has to be your first thought, and yes, men like this get custody all the time. Go to "Mommy go bye bye" and read some of the stuff there. The courts give custody all the time to these guys because they are effective liars with the money to buy the law through expensive lawyers.
The police are not going to help you. They all to often side with the males because the have to be controllers themselves to do their jobs.
And the list goes on and on.
You just may have an uphill battle, but know that the Gather community, your Gather family, is with you.
Lastly, talk often and talk loudly. Don't do as I did. Don't let them intimadate you, because they will try.
i'm not sure what to say... God bless you...
The money my Mom had saved did in fact get used for covering the cost of the Wedding (strange but true coincidence, one of my Dad's cousins was believe it or not the maiden of honor at the wedding of my Mom and her Ex, I am not even kidding about this either, not a 1st cousin though as this woman's Mom was 1st cousin to my Dad's Mom).
Anyways my Mom and her Ex wound up moving to Missouri and later Colorado (her Ex was in the Military as well).
Her Ex later started beating the crap out of her frequently, and for a time my Mom was afraid to depart from him, especially because he would say things like "no other man will want you." (there was at least one man out there that did want my Mom though, my Dad wanted my Mom probably even before my Mom and her Ex dated, my Mom's parents actually told my Mom to look for my Dad when my Mom entered Middle School).
Later there was this one place my Mom and her Ex had moved into and my Mom figured, ok he won't beat me again, well he did beat her again and this time he also beat a friend of hers as well, and that is what it took for my Mom to decide "that's it, i'm breaking up with the creep."
It took a bit for my Mom to get divorced, at the time she could not afford a lawyer since lawyers usually cost a lot of clams, also at the time, people in the military could get a free lawyer if they wanted a divorce, so my Mom was hoping her Ex would file instead of her filing herself, but her Ex didn't want a divorce at all.
Luckily when a friend of hers had gone through a divorce herself, her friend had gone to this divorce lawyer that was working for free at the time, because well he was new in his profession and new lawyers usually are either free or super cheap due to little experience and trying to gain the legal experience, so my Mom's divorce was an experience gain chance for this free lawyer, so then all my Mom had to pay was $26 court cost.
The lawyer suggested suing the guy for alimony, but my Mom said no to this idea because she wanted the man out of her life for good.
My Mom got the divorce out in Colorado and sometime after the divorce was legal, my Grandfather did send my Mom the money to come back to Michigan, my Mom had told her Dad everything about what had happened, including the fact her Ex had even gone to Jail as well.
But in addition to the fact she did not tell her Mom about it, my Grandpa never told his wife either (Grandma had no idea till the 90s exactly what all had happened to cause the divorce).
Right after my Mom came back to Michigan, my Grandma was saying "you go back to your Husband." of course had my Grandma known about the abuse that went on, she would have never ever said "you go back to your Husband."
Luckily good things did come later because my Dad was working at a Gas Station (he was in fact the manager and pretty much fulfilling duties of owner since the real owner was sick, so the owner was letting my Dad be in charge pretty much, my Dad had a chance to become the actual owner himself, but he turned that idea down), anyways Grandma had not bothered going to this Gas station until that one day that she came to tell my Dad that my Mom was single again.
My Dad was happy to hear that cause it meant she was available, 1st time my Dad did ask my Mom to marry him, my Mom said No because she was afraid to get married again after what had happened before.
When my Mom finally did say yes, well this wedding was actually cheaper than the previous one cause my Mom married her Ex in a Church but my Mom and Dad married at the County Courthouse, my Mom's youngest Sister was still a minor at the time and my Parents made her skip school so she could be one of the Witnesses.
My Mom actually did attempt that day to get my Aunt to be the one to marry my Dad instead, but my Aunt didn't go for it of course.
Right after Mom and Dad got married, they got back to my Grandparents house, my Grandma had found out her youngest daughter missed School and asked why she wasn't in School today, and my Mom and Dad said "we got married today." and well Grandma normally did not call Grandpa at work unless it was an emergency, and well in this case it was not an emergency but Grandma told Grandpa that my Mom and Dad got married, so Grandpa said he was throwing a party in the Garage and he did that.
Oh yeah Mom's Ex did call my Mom a few times after the divorce, her Ex even called after my Mom and Dad got married, I am not sure if the Ex was aware my Mom had remarried or not before the last time he ever called, but he certainly wound up aware the last time he ever did call.
What happened was, the Ex had called, my Mom was asking my Dad for advice on what to say to the Ex, and my Dad said "tell him to come over, I wanna meet him and talk to him."
The Ex overheard my Dad and said "nah that's ok, i'm not coming over." and he never ever called my Mom again.
My Mom did hang out with Aunts and Uncles of her Ex for a bit after the Divorce since she did not hold his actions against most of his family, and his relatives did tell my Mom about his 2nd marriage, his 2nd divorce and his 3rd marriage (lets see my Mom and Dad have their 31st anniversary in May, but my Mom's Ex has been married well we know at least 3 times and maybe a 4th time as well, we know he's been divorced 3 times if not also a 4th time, I think we know why his 2nd and 3rd wives left him, probably same reason my Mom did).
I do think the guy should have answered my Dad's request for a visit, because my Dad is not the kind of man that would pound anyone, the worst thing anyone can get from my Dad is a yelling with words like "knock it off." kinda like the time in 1997 when (and I actually have video footage of this incident too), my one Aunt on my Mom's side who has 4 kids (3 daughters 1 son), she was having trouble with her kids acting up when she was trying to leave, and they weren't listening to her at all.
My Dad stepped in and yelled at them and said "i've had enough, you get in the car, belts on, mouths shut." and my Aunt's kids wound up obeying my Dad (a couple of years ago I sent my Aunt a copy of the footage on DVD, especially since a few years ago she asked me if I still had the footage on Tape and I said yep).
Good question though as to what my Dad did want to say to my Mom's Ex though but I guess the Ex got afraid of a physical fight that was not even going to happen in the 1st place.