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by Sue M.
Member since:
June 21, 2007

A Gather Connection used MY Photo in Their Calendar for sale on Zazzle!!!!

February 11, 2008 06:05 AM EST (Updated: June 25, 2009 05:51 PM EDT)
views: 1348 | comments: 286

I am very hurt and disappointed to find out that one of my Gather connections has copied and downloaded one of my photos and used it to make a calendar for sale on Zazzle.com.  This person is making (or attempting to make) money off of my work!

 The strangest thing of all is that this same person actually commented on one of my photos Sunday evening that the coloring was good in my photo and that a calendar would look amazing.  That I "must join zazzle."  Then they invited me to check out their calendar on zazzle.com, giving me their zazzle account name to look it up!!!!!  So out of curiousity, and because someone else just recently mentioned that I should make a calendar with my photos and recommended zazzle, I thought I'd check it out.  I am so glad I did!!!!!!!!!

  After selecting one of this person's calendars to look at, guess what I found... one of MY own photos for the month of March!!!  I recognized it from the small thumbnail before even using the tool to magnify it to see more detail.  I immediately searched for the photo on my gather page and then pulled up the same photo saved on my computer.  Yep... the exact one (minus my ©Sue's Creation 2007)!!!!!  One of the reasons I could identify it so well, is that it contained a particular tree across the street from my house that I often capture in my sunset and cloud formation photos.  Also, it still contained my signature framing that I photoshop on to most all my photos I publish to Gather!

As a result of this violation... I have stayed up all night removing nearly ALL of my eight months of photos on Gather.  At the present time, I have left the photo that was stolen as proof that it is mine, and to allow Gather to see the evidence.  I've also left the photo up that contains the comment from this connection that I mentioned earlier.

Now I'm not sure what to do???  How can I safely publish photos on Gather without the possibility of this happening again?  And how many other people by this time may have done the same thing with my photos???  This is such a disappointing and upsetting thing for me as I have so enjoyed sharing my photos and love for my birds with my friends on Gather.

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Bubbeh Maisse (aka, G T) Feb 11, 2008, 6:34am EST
I am sorry, Sue. We all know that there are disreputable folks on the Internet. But it is always disconcerting when knowledge meets proof.
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Lydia (part of the solution) Shelley Feb 11, 2008, 6:43am EST
Do you know how to watermark your photos? Just make an extra layer, put "sample" or whatever you want it to say at an angle across the photo, reduce the opacity of that layer to a low level, then save the layered file as a jpg and all layers will merge.

I can't believe someone would be so stupid and bold as to invite you to look at what they stole. Duh!

I passed your email on to all of my contacts.
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Sue M. Feb 11, 2008, 6:44am EST
Thanks so much for your support, G T!
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Sherrie H. Feb 11, 2008, 6:46am EST
I'm really saddened to hear this.
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Danielle P. Feb 11, 2008, 6:47am EST
This is not good. I'm so sorry you have had this happen to you. Maybe you an make him give you a proceed from each sale legally!!
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Sue M. Feb 11, 2008, 6:47am EST
Yes, Lydia, I did experiment with watermarking along while back and hated to have to spoil the image for people to view. But it looks like if I decide to publish more photos that I'll have to do it.

Yes, it was unbelieveable that this person actually invited me to see what they stole from me!!! That's the problem with being deceitful... you forget what and who you've violated...

Thanks for your support in getting the word out!!
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Sue M. Feb 11, 2008, 6:48am EST
Thanks for your comment, Sherrie!
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Harrel (Len) Phillips Feb 11, 2008, 6:50am EST
You so smart Lydia.
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Sue M. Feb 11, 2008, 6:50am EST
Danielle, so far this person hasn't responded to my email or to the pings to their profile (and it's a "she" not a "he").

Yes, it would be the honest thing to do to pay me the proceeds.
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Angela <:3---}~~~~ M. Feb 11, 2008, 6:50am EST
sue the links are not click able, i think i know who you are talking about already if the name begins with "S" but please drop me an email I may be slow at responding cause my mom is in the hospital but you have my support, i hope you turn them into gather for this since the image was taken from gather they should remove this member

take screen shots of that colander so you have the proof make sure their name shows also
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Harrel (Len) Phillips Feb 11, 2008, 6:51am EST
I hate it when my comments get posted before I am finished.


Sue, can't you sue them for their infringement on copywrited material.
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Angela <:3---}~~~~ M. Feb 11, 2008, 6:51am EST
oh its a she well that blows my idea of who it is
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Harrel (Len) Phillips Feb 11, 2008, 6:53am EST
Gather says that if you post something on Gather it becomes legally yours and no one else can use it. Gather should be following up on this and helping you out.
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Robert - just a simple man - B. Feb 11, 2008, 6:53am EST
First of all Sue, you need to contact Maryanne at Gather Corporate and provide her all the details. Then you need to insist to zazzle.com that they remove the calendar from their website. You may even want to suggest (to Zazzle) you may seek legal guidance (even if you have decided you're not).

Gather will have little recourse but to ban this person from the site if you can indisputably prove your allegations. Gather has the responsibility to protect its users and our content.

I will be happy to assist you in this matter further if you need a little help.
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Robert - just a simple man - B. Feb 11, 2008, 6:55am EST
This person doesn't want me to find one of my images zazzle, I can assure you that. Anyone who knows me, knows I take my photography (and my writing) seriously.
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Angela <:3---}~~~~ M. Feb 11, 2008, 6:56am EST
shot Id tel zazzle if they don't remove the members ability to sell you will seek action. to me removing the calender is just not good enough
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Terry D Feb 11, 2008, 7:00am EST
I would love to know who this person is..
I'd like to see if they have stolen any of my pictures.
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Angela <:3---}~~~~ M. Feb 11, 2008, 7:02am EST
oh gosh i when and checked out that site from that persons comment on your photo, darn I should know who it is, shot brain is fuzzy form no sleep the last couple nites. darn wish id paid better attention to how it was :(
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Sue M. Feb 11, 2008, 7:03am EST
Angela, thanks for the advice on printing a screen shot of the calendar!

Are you saying the link in my email isn't clickable??
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Sue M. Feb 11, 2008, 7:06am EST
Robert, anyone that knows me and my photography, also knows that I take it very seriously! I work hard to produce quality content... and not for someone else to steal and make money on!!! Thanks for all your advise... I may need your help!
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Sue M. Feb 11, 2008, 7:07am EST
From the info I have provided in my article, it's not hard to figure out the offender, Terry!
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M. Bradley McCauley McCauley Feb 11, 2008, 7:09am EST
Hoping this will all be resolved for you. It's got to be frustrating. Wish I could help. Hang in there and good luck.
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Angela <:3---}~~~~ M. Feb 11, 2008, 7:13am EST
no the one in this article i cant get to work~ if the underlined stuff is supose to be a link LOL, now im not sure will try to check back in on this this evening back to the hospital I go :(
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Sassy Cat Feb 11, 2008, 7:15am EST
Sue, that is awful! I really enjoy looking at photos on gather, some of them are awesome. I've been wondering if something like this is possible and have asked that question many times in articles, but no one has had an opinion. Occasionally people tell me I should be doing a calendar or notecards, too, but I've been thinking about removing most of my photos, now I'm going to do just that, even though the scanner I put them online with is poor and makes some of them kinda fuzzy, I've been hoping too fuzzy for someone to snitch!

I'd really like to know what happens with the theft of your photo. The person should not only be kicked off Gather and zazzle, but prosecuted. Which, yeah, would be a hassle but maybe make you feel better if you caused them some grief! Good luck
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Sharon C. Feb 11, 2008, 7:33am EST
That is awful. I just connected to you and i am disappointed i did not see any of your photos. I hate people who steal others works and try to pass it off as their own. I suppose you might find a way to inform zazzle of the wrong doing.
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Renda B~surviving the storm by dancing in the rain. Feb 11, 2008, 7:39am EST
That is horrible! You have received good advice in the above comments. I hope you report it to Gather and also work on getting zazzle to remove it.
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Sue M. Feb 11, 2008, 7:46am EST
Sorry, everyone... as luck would have it my computer locked up, my printer is out of ink so it won't print and I've been up all night with all this!!! But I'm atleast back online now!!
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susie m. Feb 11, 2008, 7:48am EST
So sorry to hear of this. I haven't learned how to watermark, or put my name on my photos either. Need some help with that. I take an awful lot of photos of my plants, tropicals and nursery stock as well. Havent posted a lot on, but was planning to.
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Sue M. Feb 11, 2008, 7:50am EST
Thanks so much for everyone's advice, and YES, I will be contacting zazzle and gather and seeing what my legal stance is!!! If you want to know "who" the person is, email me.
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Janine D. Feb 11, 2008, 7:50am EST
That's very upsetting. There are dishonest people everywhere I guess:(
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Alan S. Feb 11, 2008, 7:51am EST
Signs of the times Sue. As everyone has said, your photos should be of the lowest possible resolution (and still be viewable on the web ONLY) with a watermark. That way if it is saved or copied, it will be unusable for reprinting. Also Gather should change the site so that images are not saveable (such as dotphoto.com). This can and will happen to any photos posted on the net unless these actions are taken.
BTW As Lydia posted, a watermark should be used on your photos, and you can make an "action" in Photoshop, so that it's all done with one click. Include saving the photo at a low size and resolution in the action.
Good Luck,
Alan
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Cathy N. Feb 11, 2008, 7:52am EST
I have had this happen to me. Except my photos were on my own web site. Several celebrity web sites stole my photos, including one of me. Why would anyone want a picture or me?

I contacted all of the offending web sites and they were all removed except one. Apparently, they won't even acknowledge an email or mail.

Here is what I would do, contact Zazzle according to their terms of service agreement:

Zazzle respects the intellectual property rights of others. We ask our users to do the same. Zazzle may terminate the accounts of users who appear to infringe the copyright or other intellectual property rights of others.

If you believe that your Content has been copied in a way that constitutes copyright and/or trademark infringement, please notify Zazzle's Copyright Agent, and provide the following information ("Notice"):

a) an electronic or physical signature of the person authorized to act on behalf of the owner of the copyright/trademark interest;
b) a description of the copyrighted work and/or trademark claimed to have been infringed;
c) a description of where the claimed infringing Content is located on our Site;
d) your address, telephone number, and email address
e) a statement by you that you have a good faith belief that the disputed use is not authorized by the copyright/trademark owner, its agent, or the law;
f) a statement by you, made under penalty of perjury, that the above information in your Notice is accurate and that you are authorized to act on behalf of the owner of the copyright/trademark interest involved.

Zazzle's Copyright Agent can be reached at: content_agent@zazzle.com or by telephone at: 800-980-9890.

This website has some information on what your rights are:

http://www.eaglestock.com/crights.htm

And be sure to check out the US Copyright page too.
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Kellie S. Feb 11, 2008, 7:52am EST
This is an unfortunate situation but one we all face if we publish ANY of our work on the Internet. In fact, it amuses me that an article I wrote and published on a friend's website gets forwarded to me regularly with a note: "I thought this was funny and you might like it." Shoot, I WROTE it and whoever steals it removes my name as author and passes it on. Abominable!

I don't blame you for being angry, Sue. I hope you have alerted Gather and Zazzle to the theft. Follow up on it; this is not only unethical it is ILLEGAL and this person had NO right... furthermore, this person had to have known it was illegal to steal your work and sell it because Gather makes this clear in a number of places on its website.

Personally, I would rather see you watermark your photos and continue to share them than to pull them down. Sure; I'd rather see the "unmarked" photo but if I have to look through a watermark to see good work, then I do. I understand the reason for it and am willing to put up with the inconvenience in order to be able to see the work.
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Digital Diva S. Feb 11, 2008, 7:52am EST
Please send me the link to the calendar. I went to zazzle but they say there are no calendars - but then it was the first time I've ever been there

I hope you have contacted Support @ gather. They will guide you on what to do and probably remove the thief and ban him/her forever. Keep us posted.
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Digital Diva S. Feb 11, 2008, 7:53am EST
And yes, i would like to know who it is - email me.
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David S. Feb 11, 2008, 7:54am EST
I can identify with this. Some of my photos have been likewise stolen and used elsewhere. I'm in the middle of a request to remove a few right now. Good luck!
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Kellie S. Feb 11, 2008, 7:58am EST
"Gather should change the site so that images are not saveable (such as dotphoto.com)."

ABSOLUTELY AGREED! Absolutely!

For theft off a personal website, it is possible to put a "no right click" code in place that prevents a righ-click "save as." I have that on my personal websites. I woke up one morning to a very nasty and irate message from a ninth-grader telling me she was going to get an F on a report and it was MY fault because I had right-click-protected my photos and she needed them for her report! Heh... I didn't bother to respond.
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Marianne R. Feb 11, 2008, 7:58am EST
I hate that this happened. It's bad enough when other people steal images from elsewhere and post them on Gather as their own. But to steal another's work for commercial use and financial benefit is illegal. I want to know who this person is ro see if any of my photos were stolen.

I've thought about watermarking, but it really does ruin the image IMO. I'd rather seek legal action than have to post my photos with watermarks. Gather can always make images non-right clickable. There IS a coding method for this. I've seen it used on other websites.
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Free Spirit or the guy next door ~. Feb 11, 2008, 7:59am EST
Sorry Sue, I had read a good article in Popular Photograph, believe it was last months issue, telling how people like yourself and I who post photos are being ripped off, the long and short of it is nothing will stop them because they know unless you have your photo registered your SOL, even registered it is hard to take them to court and get your just do. The problem is Gather---they don't protect other from right clicking and taking your photo---they could---one site I post photo there is no way you can copy or take a photo posted. http://www.betterphoto.com check this site out and I think you will be much more happier posting ---- it's kind of like a contest as they grade your photo and your only allowed to post one a day.
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Marianne R. Feb 11, 2008, 8:05am EST
One other comment, I do not mind if my photos are copied for personal enjoyment such as a desktop wallpaper. I also do not mind if an artist uses my image to create a painting, sketch or other work of art.

I do mind if my personal photos are being used as photos in a commercial venture or if someone else is taking credit for my photo being their own work.
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John S. (arizona) Feb 11, 2008, 8:08am EST
I think you should follow Robert's advice (and others) above and contact both sites regarding copyright violations and possible legal action. I think I found the comment you referred to above. There is no way she should profit from your work. You also may not be the only one from here either, and it needs to be addressed. Is there a way to download those calendar pictures for other photographers here in Gather to view? Maybe it would be best to ask Gather first what to do? I don't know...?
You take such wonderful pictures, it is a shame this had to happen to you. I hope it can all be resolved in a good way, and that you can continue to share your work without worry. Take care, and good luck.
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Holly G. Feb 11, 2008, 8:08am EST
Sue, I had the same thing happen to me, (well, they are not making money off my photo, that I know off...),they are using a photo of mine as there icon on another site I belong to!! Withoutr permission!! Why do people think that is okay?? I did not know what to do, so I haven't done anything. I thought about adding a water mark to my pics, but you said that yours was removed, so that won't help I guess. I think that it's terrible Sue, and I hope Gather will take appropriate action, and I hope you can feel safe to publich your wonderful photos once again...it sucks that somebody could ruin that for you, (and all of us who enjoy looking at you work!)
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John S. (arizona) Feb 11, 2008, 8:12am EST
Whoa, sounds like Cathy has great information while I was typing my comment. Way to go Cathy N. !!!
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Trish A. Feb 11, 2008, 8:14am EST
For some reason some people feel that anything on the internet is fair game. It is time there is a wake up call like the music industry did.

I wish you the best in working this out.
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Erika S. Feb 11, 2008, 8:15am EST
I'd inform Zazzle.
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Wilma M. Feb 11, 2008, 8:17am EST
You have such beautiful photos. I am so sorry that this has happened. It seems there are unethical people everywhere. I doubt that I even know the person who did this to you (at least I hope not!)
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Digital Diva S. Feb 11, 2008, 8:18am EST
Thanks for posting this to Best Photos, Art and Writing for 2008. It is an example of the WORST that can happen to and by a person on gather.

I hope each and every Gatherite that willfully takes things off the internet and posts them as their own sees this and I hope you sue, Sue.

Keep us posted.
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Marianne R. Feb 11, 2008, 8:24am EST
I tried to find this person by looking at your photos and had a hard time. Can you just email me who it is please?
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Randee "The Court Jester of LaLa Land ! ! !" always and forever, I just want to celebrate Feb 11, 2008, 8:26am EST
This is so wrong....
I have many images saved from my people, but I would never use them to profit or prosper, I do it just in case someone looses there images, I can always be of that kind of help...

I hope this will be resolved by Gather and wherever they are trying to sell it...
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Juan J Martinez Feb 11, 2008, 8:28am EST
You first and quickly contact the managment on Gather and zazzle, with the information. Secondly if possible e-mail this individual with your concerns and let him or her know that you will be seeking a resolution through the legal system if you are not compensated and or the calander is not pulled.
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Randee "The Court Jester of LaLa Land ! ! !" always and forever, I just want to celebrate Feb 11, 2008, 8:30am EST
I've seen where a couple people I don't know have used my positve and humorous findings on there self-improvement sight, but most of the stuff I publish are just old, old quotes and jokes....

I'm flattered,

but.....in your case you're talking about your original "stuff",....
some people...........
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Sue M. Feb 11, 2008, 8:35am EST
Thanks EVERYONE, for all your support an advice. I have emailed Zazzle and Gather and have yet to hear back from either.
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Mary t. Feb 11, 2008, 8:38am EST
Some People have no morals or sense od decency! I agree this person should be banned,sued, drawn & quartered , shot then hanged!! Sorry this happened.
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Marianne R. Feb 11, 2008, 8:38am EST
After checking out her profile, I am glad I am not connected to this person. I have commented on some of her photos, but wondered at the time if they were her original work. No one has that many pets, lol.
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Joyce C. Feb 11, 2008, 8:39am EST
Watermark all your work. That's the most important thing to do. This is the Internet and there are many people with various degrees of integrity on it.
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Joyce C. Feb 11, 2008, 8:42am EST
Out of curiosity, who's this person anyway?
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A. Foster T. Feb 11, 2008, 8:52am EST
Put a water mark with your name in the corner.
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Ruth H. Feb 11, 2008, 8:53am EST
Sue that is terrible. I'm sorry that someone could be so deceitful and underhanded. This really bothers me because I post pictures of my children and I would really be upset if they misused these photos.
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Human, Katherine, seeker of intergalactic life, inhabitant of Earth Feb 11, 2008, 8:53am EST
Oh no Sue, this makes me spitting mad. You share such beautiful pictures with us and now this person has ruined that for all of us. I'm glad you have contacted Gather and ZazZle and I think you need to out this person so we can all check to see if she has stolen our pictures for use. It will take Gather a few days to get back to you, at least that's been my experience.
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Sue M. Feb 11, 2008, 8:54am EST
I had my name with the copyright symbol on all my photos... just not the water mark.
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Lisa Frost Feb 11, 2008, 8:56am EST
This is awful and hopefully Gather and Zazzle will take action on your (and their own) behalf. It is a shame that there has to be people like this, who hurt the enjoyment of all.
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Brian .. Feb 11, 2008, 8:58am EST
that's horrible!
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Alta B. Feb 11, 2008, 8:58am EST
The nerve of some people. It never ceases to amaze me that people will do harm to others.
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Joyce C. Feb 11, 2008, 9:04am EST
Actually, I am with Spartan. Name the person. And low-res your pictures.
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F. Jeanette c. Feb 11, 2008, 9:06am EST
This is so ridiculous. How can people live with themselves? Thank you for bringing this to our attention. My daughter is a wonderful photographer. You can tell the difference in my work and hers. I had published a good deal of her work on gatther after we went to Ireland and entered the First chaper romance contest. She became very concerned and ask me to take it off. So I did. There are a few pics left but the best were removed, in case she decides to create a book. I wonder if our personal pictures like someone else said, could be used for child pornograhy or fro jokes on line or in different books or--------the possibilities are endless. Thanks again, I'm off to ZAZZLE.

10 4 u
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Ada D. Feb 11, 2008, 9:09am EST
This is awful. I really love seeing you photos on Gather and will miss them if you decide not to post them here any more. It would be in Gather's own best interest to make it harder for people to copy posted photos, otherwise the best photographers will stop posting images here.

I hope Gather and Zazzle take fast action to stop this.
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Human, Katherine, seeker of intergalactic life, inhabitant of Earth Feb 11, 2008, 9:11am EST
I would also like to view the calendars..as I am betting that all the pictures she used are stolen. I finally figured out who it was and looked at the pictures she has on Gather...and I would guess that they aren't hers. Does she use the same user name on Sizzle?
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Roxanna K. Feb 11, 2008, 9:12am EST
You need to contact Zazzle or whatever they are called and tell them what happened. Direct them to your gather page to see your work. This sucks.
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Ana S. Feb 11, 2008, 9:13am EST
this is amazing!! You should oust this thief, because that is what she is!! How dare she take credit and try to profit from your work!! I know a lot of good lawyers..family is full of them if you need legal assistances. Makes me want togo a delete all of my pictures!! This is VERY SAD!!
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Ana S. Feb 11, 2008, 9:15am EST
i think gather should find a way to protect the photos post here!! The idea of w ater mark is a good suggestions and I think I may do that fromnow on..if I post at all! Again this is just sad! Thank you for bring this out and again..you really should let us know who i was, so that we can be aware and stay away from the degenerate thief!!
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Doyle ( IS SOOO 7 for 7 soon... ) C. Feb 11, 2008, 9:17am EST
Copyright violation is serious and a viotlation of Federal law. IMMEDIATELY notify this person AND Zazzle to remove it and consider taking legal action. It's THIS kind of thing that prevents artists and true photographer's from posting their work.

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Nauman M. Feb 11, 2008, 9:26am EST
Sue, this is really bad and it is very disappointing that there are people on gather with this these kind of intentions to stole someones work. We all should be careful and Gather Admin should take action against those people. The use of someone's material for making money is abuse of copyright.
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denise e Feb 11, 2008, 9:27am EST
so sorry that this has happened to you. please keep us all updated. I would definately contact gather and zazzle. also keep proof of the calendar from their site, your copy, and any correspondence from and to the offender. good luck
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Doyle ( IS SOOO 7 for 7 soon... ) C. Feb 11, 2008, 9:28am EST
Sue . . . Register - Log in . . . . and add a comment that the March Photo is STOLEN and a violation fo Federal Copyright Law. ASAP.

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Sue B.© The Sting IS Worse Than the Buzz Feb 11, 2008, 9:30am EST
Amazing! I don't put anything past anyone anymore. To think the person actually had the nerve to call your attention to it is too incredible for words!
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Sue M. Feb 11, 2008, 9:33am EST
Sorry everyone, I've been advised that it is against TOS regulations to publicly name the person. If you want to know "who" email me.
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Azure W. Feb 11, 2008, 9:34am EST
Thanks for the warning. Sorry this happened to you.
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Member Photog Feb 11, 2008, 9:39am EST
hey, i sent you mail per how to pursue this .....

am surprised to read that so many are so shocked since there have been countless articles lately and in recent past posted about others stealing photos all over Gather....

Last week i deleted all of my photo work here and only recently began again with a watermarked photo.....wait until you come across one of your photos entered into a cash contest!.....

if you post online it is a given that those without integrity will steal your work...there is proof of that right here at Gather.....as you now know firsthand.....

cheers,gayle
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Christopher K. Feb 11, 2008, 9:40am EST
sue them
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Michelle W. Feb 11, 2008, 9:44am EST
Oh dear. I would contact Zazzle and let them know that they are selling work that has been copyrighted by you. Then I would contact Gather and let them know what is going on.
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penni d. Feb 11, 2008, 9:47am EST
I give my photos to photo bucket, as i also use what i need from there, with a "thank you' each time i do, but if someone tried to make MONEY off my pics, i would be as upset as you are!! hope you contacted the proper people to assist. i would not wish to be connected to a thief,myself...Reena sent me over, and i am glad she did..
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Connie C. Feb 11, 2008, 9:49am EST
That is scary. they could use any of our photos for anything they want. Not good
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Sue M. Feb 11, 2008, 9:50am EST
As stated earlier, I have reported this to Zazzle and Gather, with no reply yet from either. I have signed up with Zazzle and put in a violation report from the calendar page and also added a comment to the calendar for anyone to see that this has a stolen photo in it and a request has been made to remove the calendar.

If you want more information, just email me.
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Roy ☯ Hilbinger Feb 11, 2008, 9:50am EST
This is terrible, Sue. And it's so blatant! Her comment in her profile is that she's looking for people with common sense. Hmmmm... I hope you're following Robert's and Cathy's advice. I'd especially send an email AND call Zazzle at the address and number Cathy provided. And of course notified the Gather people Robert mentioned. This person needs to be banned from Gather and Zazzle!

Hmmm... Maybe I should do a Google image search and see if any of mine are floating around in places I didn't put them.

Most of all, though, please don't let this discourage you from posting your shots here. I'd miss them way too much!
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Trudy P. Feb 11, 2008, 9:54am EST
That's really low.... Now I'm worried!
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Nana to Seven Cutiepies Feb 11, 2008, 9:55am EST
This is just terrible Sue. It so sad that people stoop so low for a few bucks and think they aren't going to get caught. I saw that comment on your photo but didn't think anything of it at the time. I surely hope this is some action you can take to rectify this situation. At the very least, this calendar should not be allowed to be mass produced or sold.
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Marilyn M. Feb 11, 2008, 9:55am EST
I'm not surprised, Sue. There's a Hellium writer who steals my writings all the time to make money. Hellium has never responded to my complaint nor has the person who stole them. Funny, though, she lets my comments to her remain public, where I hve told her she stolel my writings.

I hope you'll update us on this, about whether or not zazzle responds.
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Lynn R. Feb 11, 2008, 9:59am EST
This is absolutely ridiculous. I can't believe someone would stoop that low. In some people's minds and probably hers, they (she) may think she is complimenting you by using your photo. From what I understand any artwork whether it's written, painted, photographed or whatever is automatically copyright. Make sure you leave that photo just as it is so you have proof that it was your photo. Luckily, the date on your photo is obviously earlier than the date that she published her calendar. Again, that's your proof. Don't take it off or delete any comments from it. You may need those later on. I would contact an attorney for infringment rights. She messed up big time. You have every right to sue her for theft of your photographs.

I just wonder how many times she's gotten away with this in the past? Are all of those photos actually her's? Sad, very sad. I'd like to know who this is.

You are lucky you found this. How in the world would we ever know someone has done this to us? Scary, too. I'm thinking about removing all our family pictures from here for sure. Thanks for putting this out there. Keep us posted on what happens. I would certainly like to know how Gather handles this as well as Zazzle and I'm sure others would, too.

Thank you.
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Marilyn M. Feb 11, 2008, 10:00am EST
By the way, has anyone suggested to Gather to make photos not copyable? (Is that a word???)
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Heidianna "Coriander" T. Feb 11, 2008, 10:11am EST
I am so shocked! Wow. What's more, I am disappointed that people do this. I shouldn't be shocked, but I am. I really adore your work. I hope you won't let this deter you from sharing your talents in the future.
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Miz Lynn aka/BooBoo Feb 11, 2008, 10:11am EST
Just checked the calendar, please take notice of "September", isn't that a Terry Redlin print? What nerve!! I've seen the January print posted on Gather too, its very very old, it might be public domain...don't know?
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sheila h. Feb 11, 2008, 10:17am EST
This is shocking especially coming on the heels of an article that was plagiarized by another Gather member very recently.....
So is this blatant criminal activity becoming or has been regular practice ?
Where are the Gather Administrators on this situation?
Incidences of any theft of original photography or writing or false claims of proprietorship corrupts the atmosphere and environment on Gather and will cause more people to join the exodus.
If anyone in Administration gives the least little damn they should intercede on your behalf and those individuals who have been or will be maligned in similar fashion.
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Faith is ready to be creative and enjoy her life! Feb 11, 2008, 10:19am EST
I emailed you for the information on her.
Golly, this is just frightening.
I have often wondered about this, it is kind of a worst fear of posting on gather.
I hope you get resolution to your satisfaction quickly!!
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sheila h. Feb 11, 2008, 10:22am EST
I am ,personally,very sorry this is a situation that you must deal with..looks like you have
much support by the outpour of comments.
You should seek professional council and sue this person for copyright infringement.
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Faith is ready to be creative and enjoy her life! Feb 11, 2008, 10:22am EST
ok, I'm going to try and figure out how to do this watermark thing.
I'd given up putting a copyright by me on my pictures because someone
I respect said it doesn't mean anything if you haven't paid the government
for real copyright.
I'm going to keep checking and see what is happening with this issue for you.
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Rory M. Feb 11, 2008, 10:23am EST
The second most alarming thing about this is the fact that no one from Gather has commented on the problem yet.

Hello? HEELLOOOO!?!? Gather? Anyone home?

This is a serious misuse of your site, poses a threat to all of your original content users and has possibly expensive legal ramifications. One might think you guys would like to hit the ground running on this one.

Action is required and information sent out to all Gather members to ensure that steps have been taken, to inform what those steps are and to warn anyone else looking to plagiarize that they will be banned from the site.

Get on it and get on it now!
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Ellie !. Feb 11, 2008, 10:24am EST
How rotten.
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Juan J Martinez Feb 11, 2008, 10:28am EST
"sue them" Re-Contact Gather and this other sites management and be sure to mention your entent to pursue this legally if this matter is not resolved immidiatly. I have found this grabbes their attention pretty quickly.
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