Zeitgeist: The Movie

I've seen clips from another source. This is an important film, obviously based on research and with many references.

I like the title of Part 1 - It occurred to me it should have been entitled, "The Greatest 'Story' Ever Told."

A breath of fresh air for every open-minded person.

Peace.

I've been studying the subjects of this movie, to judge from the transcript, for...more than a few years.

My first impression of the transcript is that the modern habit of projecting ignorance and simple-mindedness onto the people of the past is in full play here, as well as the "comparative religion" approach of collecting similarities, connections, relationships, and turning them into flat equalities. ("Virgo is the Virgin Mary.")

"The Golden Bough" did this more than a century ago, creating a sensation. It is listed in the references, but crude as it was in many ways, it is far more complex and sophisticated than this movie.

Reading further in the transcript...

It's late and I'm tired, but this is a sophomoric rehash. Yes, religions today have accumulated a big pile of nonsensical crap; no, the explanation isn't that they were crap to begin with, it is that we human beings have been steadily separated from the "cosmic operating system" in order to develop an individual(istic) consciousness.

Separated off in that way, we can't see into nature and the cosmos as we once could. Now we "get" "matter" really well. We don't get anything else very well. (The film could have mentioned that "matter" means mother and therefore would also "be the Virgin Mary," along with Virgo.)

No, this either has a big unacknowledged agenda, or is colossally naive. This deserves one's own very serious study, from sources that do not operate from either present-minded prejudices or woo-woo mysticalism.

JB, yes, I totally agree Part I about religion was shallow, obvious and somewhat offensive (with some condescending narration from the comic Bill Hicks- as much as I like some of his other skits... ) You call it "sophomoric rehash," but you have to realize that most people are ignorant to the evolution of the Christ figure at all and I'm sure not even 1 out of 10 people you ask on the streets could properly tell you (sadly) what the Inquisition or the Crusades were and yet at least 4 out of 10 go to church every Sunday and blindly trust church authority. The key word here is "blindly." They chant "Thou shall not Kill" and then the next day enlist.

The movie also touches upon the sad state of our educational systems today and our culture's penchant for drinking, partying and plunking ourselves in front of the tube to find out what i.e. Paris Hilton was wearing yesterday and how it effected the dog she carries around in her purse as a decoration.

If you go on to watch the other parts about how propaganda/hidden high-up instigations make war and how authorities manipulate us through the media to fulfill greedy personal goals, it is much more interesting. I'm not a firm believer that 9/11 was an "inside job,"

but I honestly cannot say for sure that it wasn't.

That fact alone unnerves me. What information can we trust? I certainly do not trust this movie, but it at least buoys genuine issues.

It also talks in Part III about the federal reserve bank and how it benefits from wars and recessions. (I found this last part the most interesting because it is based on what I understand to be facts.)

So overall, it's another conspiracy theory movie... but the first one I've seen that actually riled me up a bit. Maybe it was all the Network quotes ;)

How does one "realize" truth? Where do you go to ask questions when there are so few sources to be trusted? How do you decide when to turn the other cheek or scream out the window, "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!" and MEAN it.

Good, I'll look further. I felt bad about my snarky comment, but as you say the ignorance is truly vast, and last night I was really tired. Of course, "Network" is one of my all time favorite movies. Yeah, "a pure source" -- phrase from that Disney movie Tron that they abandoned and maybe burned. Buckminster Fuller and Rudolf Steiner are my favorites. The latter is the broadest and deepest source since Thomas Aquinas, but he made no effort to organize (a la Ken Wilbur) his stuff into a system. Fuller is a technologist/engineer who also understood but didn't directly address the deeper stuff. Operating Manual for Spaceship Earth is everything we need to act on now, told to us forty years ago. Well, gotta rein myself in here. Always good to hear from you.q

Smaragdus,
I´ve both recommended this film to friends and deplored it at the same time. It has some great stuff in it--the film makers, ¨cobblers¨is a better term for them, since most of the footage (including the framing of the footage) comes from other conspiracy films--but also the worst kind of ´guys behind the curtain´BIG PICTURE conspiratorial nonsense, the contemporary sanitized WASP version of the Protocols of The Elders of Zion argument meets the thermite 9/11 ¨inside job¨theory. The stuff about NORAD is completely distorted, and about the only compelling argument they make is about building seven, which clearly had structural flaws inherent in its construction before it collapsed. (However, knowing something about the Mafia and the construction of major skyscrapers with shoddy building materials in the Seventies as a shop steward of local 100 when it was taken down for the concrete scandal, I would say that you wouldn´t need thermal explosives to lay waste to those towers.)