Am I A Sexist If One Of The Reasons I Won't Vote For Hillary Is Because She Is A Woman?

only you really know, i think yes.

Short answer is Yes . . . you're sexist. Longer answer is that if you weren't a woman you'd look up the specific policy proposals, eg. Healthcare, instead of throwing a "Meow" hissy fit because you felt patronized. A man wouldn't put up with that.

But I love you anyway.

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~

Hilary makes a great candidate. You can read her positions on her website. They are identical to Obama's. She has more experience than he does.

First let me say I don't like her either and the reason I would never vote for her is because I don't think she can do the job.

That said I prefer my president to be a male. I really don't care if that makes me sound sexist. It is the way I feel and at least I am telling the truth.

So to answer your question no I don't think it makes you sexist.

LoL! Love it Chris!

I bet the KKK people look at each other and say I feel the same way Billy-Bob, so, NO, I don't think you're racist!

Brilliant thinking!

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~

Well, if your a sexist then I am too. I'm not going into any more than that.

Doyle- it is my opinion which I am entitled to. If you don't like it that is your problem not mine.

I think you would be a sexist if one of the reasons you wouldn't vote for Hillary is because she is a woman but after reading your article I don't think that is why you didn't vote for her. Like Diane says, only you know for sure.

Could it be that you were offended that other women were voting for her for that reason? Maybe you were wanting someone to give you some good reasons and that is all you got.

Of course, I think you didn't vote for Hillary because you realized that Obama rocks!

I think she is highly intelligent and completely qualified; however, she is a very divisive personality at a time that the country needs someone to really get things straightened out. The reason I didn't vote for her yesterday is because I don't believe a country with this many people needs to have just two ruling families for 25 years. And, yeah, Obama rocks.

Diane thanks for your honesty.

Doyle my sweet. But on that same token if I looked at Obama and said I am voting for him BECAUSE he is black or I am voting for Hillary BECAUSE she is a woman then I would be for sure not only a sexist but a racist too. BTW a man wouldnt look it up he would ask his wife to do it:)

Mary experience in this case equates more corruption.

Chris at least you have an opinion and arent afraid of expressing it...but surprise surprise we dont agree...I would love to see a woman running that has more qualifications than the fact she is a woman and was married to bill clinton.

Lyndon I think you are trying to make a funny. HAHA.


I do love Doyle...I do love Doyle... I do love Doyle

Judi exactly you get it.

Thanks Ang:)

Jennifer good point.


Bruce exactly.

I have debated this with myself. I used to dream of a day when a woman could be president. I never thought I would see it a strong possibility so soon. Ambitious people run for office...and I keep thinking how ambitious I would have to be to stand by Bill...land then, that reminds me she'll do anything to be elected...and I start doubting what she says.
Oh, woe is me. Remember the fall of 1970 when we protested that freshman women had to return to their dorms by 10 pm weeknights and midnight weekends...and the freshmen had no such rules. What was all that fight about if I am thinking of not voting for a woman?
Sex or religion is not a good enough reason to vote or not vote for someone.
That's not what you were thinking, was it? The Clinton people didn't sell you.

freshmen men had no such rules...i need an editor

Lori, I look at some of the scandals from the Clinton presidency (the real estate one it was alluded was more her fault than his?) and what are her qualifications really? I don't think she's had the same quality of experience as Obama (though I am not supporting anyone yet, to be honest). 8 years in the White House as the First Lady, and before that as the governor of Arkansas' wife, is really not political savvy. If she'd served longer in the Senate, and had a stronger record, that would be another thing entirely.

I don't think you're sexist. I think the people voting for her just because she's a woman are sexist.

Lori- I am not opposed to a woman being president at all. I said I prefer a male but if the woman candidate was more qualified than the male then I would vote for her. In this case. She is not.

Sexist= believing one sex is inherently superior to the other. Are you?

Hillary IS qualified. She's been a competent US senator for years, and spent 8 years in the White House, and had a successful career as a lawyer. That's far more qualifications than George W. My-Daddy-Was-President ever had.

But her alleged lack of qualifications aren't why you wouldn't vote for Hillary, right? Why don't you just say it: You don't like her. She rubs you the wrong way. Why make it a "women's issue?"

Ellie that is exactly what I mean. I want a woman who doesnt have to run on the gender platform just the issues.

Thanks Lisa. That is exactly what I am talking about.

Ok Chris now I get it.

Erin so then other than the senate thing based on that Nancy Reagan could have run and been qualified. My husband is a calibration technician/component engineer and just because I am married to him doesnt qualify me to be an engineer. Now does it? BTW did you read my article? I specifically pointed out why because Hillary and her supporters play the gender card. I voted for Bill and campaigned for him twice but personally I probably wouldnt have liked him yet he was the most qualified candidate...you and the rest of your Hillary bots need to find a better arguement besides whining. Its getting old. Maybe she should have a stand on something besides being Bill Clintons wife.

I don't trust Hillary Clinton, so she won't have my vote. It has nothing to do with her being a woman. I'm ready to see a woman in the White House, or an African American, or a white guy...as long as they are qualified, or offer something that appeals to me. I think they should quit putting so much pressure on women to "have to support the woman." With that all said, I am thrilled that in my lifetime I have seen it go from race riots to having the option of a black man or a woman to choose from.

No you are not Sexist...


#1 If you do not vote for or against a person becouse of there sex/gender
then your not sexist...
#3 if you do not vote for or against a person becouse of there race...

then your not raciest ...

I will not vote for Hillary, it is personal I do not trust nor like her or Slickwilly..

as Billy Joel says "It's all a matter of trust!"

Sue thanks thats the way I think.

M Emmett I agree and I love that billy joel song.

Spartan I dont care either what bill did with anyone or didnt do. He was a very good president. But Hillary is no Bill.

I don't think your sexiest. More along of being discrimitive because you would not vote for someone because of their gender.

Personally, you choose who you want. That is up to you and you along.

"Doyle- it is my opinion which I am entitled to. If you don't like it that is your problem not mine. "
News Flash: It's NOT a problem for me. I don't like it. I think it belies and underlying ignorance. I don't care for lazy or indolent thinking. Deal with it!

"...if I looked at Obama and said I am voting for him BECAUSE he is black or I am voting for Hillary BECAUSE she is a woman then I would be for sure not only a sexist but a racist too."
Absolutely agreed.

"...what are her qualifications really?"
Ignorance is bliss. She has more qualifications than most. A Yale Law graduate, she served on the Board of Editors of Yale Law Review and Social Action, interned with children's advocate Marian Wright Edelman (and met Bill Clinton). After graduation, Hillary advised the Children's Defense Fund in Cambridge and joined the impeachment inquiry staff advising the Judiciary Committee of the House of Representatives. In 1978, President Jimmy Carter appointed her to the board of the Legal Services Corporation. She chaired the Arkansas Educational Standards Committee, co-founded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families, and served on the boards of the Arkansas Children's Hospital, Legal Services, and the Children's Defense Fund. She chaired the Task Force on National Health Care Reform (WAY ahead of the curve). She continued to be a leading advocate for expanding health insurance coverage (We NOW know she was right), ensuring children are properly immunized, and raising public awareness of health issues. She wrote a weekly newspaper column entitled "Talking It Over," which focused on her experiences as First Lady and her observations of women, children, and families she has met around the world. Her 1996 book It Takes a Village and Other Lessons Children Teach Us was a best seller, and she received a Grammy Award for her recording of it. Hillary won many admirers for her staunch support for women around the world and her commitment to children's issues, particulary in China and innovated micro-lending to help the poor in third world countries.

But what the HELL, she's a woman. ...And Bill's wife is all people who don't do their homework think she's done.

"I admit it part of the reason I wont vote for Hillary Clinton is her gender ..."
Sexist . . . and feeling patronized by a party worker is a POOR excuse.

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~

No Doyle- It is not ignorant just because I have a preference. I prefer Italian food over Indian food so does that make me a racist? Like I stated before I am not aganist a woman being president if she is the better person for the job. In this case I do not feel she is.

"As I stated before I am not aganist a woman being president ..."

Really? Let's review the quote, shall we?

"That said I prefer my president to be a male. I really don't care if that makes me sound sexist. It is the way I feel and at least I am telling the truth."

Ok. Got it Champ. You're 'Open-Minded'. Thanks for clearing that up.

"I prefer Italian food over Indian food so does that make me a racist?"

It's a shame you don't know the answer to this rediculous question. Then again, you have issues even recalling what YOU said . . .

You win. You're a great, open-minded philanthropist.

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~

Apparently you only read what you want to read.

My quote

"Lori- I am not opposed to a woman being president at all. I said I prefer a male but if the woman candidate was more qualified than the male then I would vote for her. In this case. She is not. "

Again I say my opinion is my opinon and I have a right to it. If I agreed with you this would not be an issue. You don't like my opinion so you are making it an issue.

Why don't we leave it at agreeing to disagree.

That was NOWHERE in your initial quote which remains for all to see . . . it showed up when you began back-pedaling after my comment. This later quote you said AFTER my comment and then chose to criticize me and change your comment. Whatever.

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~

Apparently you feel you and only YOU get an opinion. Keep your opinion. Mine is a poor opinion of you which you seek to affirm with every comment.

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~

If she is the Democratic candidate this time, I will vote for her though I have my misgivings. My reason is simple: this country cannot survive 4-8 more years of the kind of crap Bush has put us through. I would not vote for her because she is a woman, but because she is a Democrat. Were that not an issue, then I would vote for the person most qualified regardless of party, gender, or race. I consider all of those immaterial.

To answer the question: You are sexist if you say you would not vote for someone for a particular office because they were female. You are not sexist if you say that you don't like a particular woman for an office for whatever your reasons.

Brian one of the things that impressed me about the obama people and obama himself is he doesnt play the race card. No one looked at me and said...dont you think it would be nice to have a black man in the white house....they instead told me how he planned to get rid of the No Child Left Behind and how he was going to make college affordable for everyone starting at the community college level.

Doyle and Chris hey and carry on.

You were undecided and Clintons supporters at the time failed to make a real case for her, what are her qualifications, accomplishments and tell you WHY you should support her.

Lori, you know that I'm African American and I support Obama not for what he is, but for what he stands for unity, and a vision for the future and not a simple return to the days of Bill Clinton. We need to go forward and face the future and not duck or shy away from it. I see Hillary as the past and a return to it. I personally want to go forward and try something new even if the path hasn't been tried before.

You know from my previous articles I'm a business person and I believe in taking a well planned calculated risk. I'm willing to risk failure but who is to say that we as a country will fail with Barack. If they are that certain of failure and what the future will bring, they can these prophets of doom be kind enough to e-mail me the latest stocks because my financial planner is not certain at this point.

The last 20 yrs has been Bush, Clinton, Bush and the thought of another Clinton. OMG! Insanity is really doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

Elegantly phrased Brian . . . but equating Clinton with Clinton is as fair as saying Bush I and Bush II were the same. The name is the same. Not the person. I do get and appreciate the Obama support. Frankly, this time , for the first time in my life, I don't feel like I'm voting for the lesser of two evils and think both would make a Damn fine President!

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~

Lori ,I did another re post. Forgot a point or two. LOL

And Sandy thank you.

Carolyn I struggle with that...I dont want another 4 years with a bush clone but I dont want Hillary but yet I dont want to not vote.

Brian the dynastys have got to stop.

Actually it had nothing to do with your comment I was talking to Lori. I never said it was in my initial quote I was clarifing what I was originally saying and apparently when I said prefer it was taken and I would not vote for a woman which is why I clarified.

I never criticized you I told you that if you did not like my opinion that was your problem not mine.

I also never said you were not allowed your opinion but don't expect that I won't repond to someone who attacks my opinion.

So we are clear you don't like my opinon. Fine! That is your right just like it my right to have that opinion.

Hey Lori- Sorry I am done with this. The baby will be up early so I have to run anyways. Talk to you later.

Doyle my point is that I was highly offended that someone would assume that because I am a woman that the issues wouldnt matter when it came to vote for Hillary.

The day I went to the caucus a Hillary minnion showed up at my door and when I answered I saw it in his eyes....another one pegged for Hillary and in the way he talked to me.

I wonder how this person would have reacted if my hubby would have answered the door.

Doyle, I'm also an ex-soldier and it's my nature that you have to do things differently from time to time and have to take risks. I personally drive that road. I try to find a new computer application or telecommunications application on the job everyday. Sometime I fail but in the long term re-organized all the computer files and came up with refined processes. I've came up with things that someone said could actually save a persons life because I serve as a safety manager. It would not have happened with out taking the risk of trying something new.

I'm not a fan of Hillary's. I would like to see a woman in the White House some day but just not her.

It was mentioned about that she has the experience to be president. What experience??? I have to laugh every time I heard her campaign on TV talking about her 35 years of experience. Let me see.... she was a lawyer, then the wife of a governor, the wife of a President and now she's a junior Senater. Think about it she's only in her second term in the senate and she's spent most of the second term campaigning for the presidency.

Chris no worries. You are always free to say whatever you want on my threads.

JoAnn I agree with that 120%

Well,
Possibly it might be elucidating to note a few of Hillary's other accomplishments. I noticed you left out corporate lawyer for WalMart, and the fact that she is the largest recipient of pharm and insurance lobby dollars in the Senate. She refused to swear off lobbyist dollars like Obama and Edwards early on. She has accepted donations and bundling of donations from some of the worst of those that heretofore had NEVER donated to a Democrat, and in fact helped finance the Bush campaigns. These include those from the military industrial complex, Those from the Pharm and insurance industries, and in fact, Michael Moore, in his Movie Sicko, details Hillary's earlier good works, and how much money it took to bring her around to their point of view. She is, in my opinion, THE corporate candidate, and four to eight more years of corporations running our country from the wings. Obama is no saint either, though, but in a choice between the lesser of evils..........

As for her character:

http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474977247363&nav=Namespace

There is nothing more fun than watching an unholy army of Liberals not only tear each other's candidate apart, but to watch them tear each other apart.

This is the true result when Leftists slither out of their cages. This is the main reason there has been no Left Wing Presidents since Carter.

And you guys think you can run a country?

Well put. Didn't catch up on the comments, but I'm thinking the same thing. Suddenly, I feel like a misogynist because I happen to think this particular woman is not the right woman for the job.

Bret? Democrats may think they can run a country. Republicans have just spent seven years proving beyond a doubt that they cannot.

Hey, now, Bret, it's not like those kinds of sentiments never came from the mouths of conservatives.

Luke L. -

We Democrats seem to have a very difficult time agreeing on anything or anybody. However, one thing I've always admired about the Republicans is their ability to throw all their differences aside and unite behind one candidate for President. As is evidenced above, we don't have that. We enjoy tearing ourselves to pieces every 4 years arguing "my candidate is best!". We never unite behind one candidate in the general election..............and that is why we've only had Clinton and Carter in the White house since 1976.

I'd admire that, as well, but I think it has more to do with the (*cough* irrelevant) "moral" and "religious" "issues" that serve as such an effective front. Lots of that might be missing on the other side, and in my opinion that makes it better by default.

This happened the day of the caucus? Maybe her 'handlers' gave you credit for having researched the fine points before you arrived.

Right, they're real united right now. You've probably missed the revolt of Narco Rush and the anti McCain crowd, and the Christian right turn of the Suckabee fundie crowd. What a laugh.

I don't think you are sexist,you are opposed to this woman,not every woman. I usually vote for the "green" candidate when I don't like any of the mainstream candidates. I don't like Obama or Hillary,but I think if I had only those two as a choice I would have to pick Hillary.The republicans are as always all about the money.....the rich get richer and the rest get poorer. So it's "green" for me,better to save the Earth than help someones overflowing pockets get deeper.

"But not voting for her because she mentioned that she's a woman..."
SHE didn't mention it . . . a campaign worker did,

Ron I was simply poiniting out how absurd and uneducated it was saying her only experience was as a first lady. I know I can always count on you to tick off reasons not to supprt her. Having done actual research, you at least come from an informed position. I see you failed to mention as a reason that a woman shouldn't be President. Very helpful for people who don't want her election but don't know why.

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~

It's tearing me apart to not be supporting a woman - then again I treat her just like I treat everyone else, I expect the best and I think she is not the best in this case.

Our country needs a visionary, someone we can all get behind to move forward, it's not her, it's Obama.

If she winds up the nominee I will work my butt off getting her elected.

You know what kills me though? All the people that get bent about Bill getting a bj. All these guys pull crap like that. Anyone who doesn't think so needs to get a grip. Who cares? Bj's don't effect policy, just temperament.

Lori- No, I do not think you should label yourself as sexist. If you were against voting for a candidate simply because of gender (this case female), then yes, you would be sexist. But that would remain true no matter what woman was running.

It is not sexist to feel put off because someone was trying to play the gender card only. We females are more intelligent than this. Well... I hope most of us are anyway! Trying to convince me that I should vote for a woman simply because she is a woman, is stupid and would insult my intelligence.

Chris E.- You should probably examine your statement a little more. I'm not sure I would entirely label you as sexist but perhaps a bit prejudice.

You state that you "prefer" a male. Ok, it's good that you're not entirely against a female, but the fact that you "prefer" a male... For what reason? It's not a matter of "taste" as you suggest.

To answer your "food" question.. Simply preferring one taste to another is not racist no. If you're reason for preferring one taste over another had to do with nothing more than the racial aspects of the food, then... yeah, you'd be bordering on racist.

You cannot say, "I prefer Italian food over Indian food, because I prefer Italian people over Indian people... well... come on face it... that is a bit racist sounding.

Stating that you prefer a male president for no other reason than gender... "if the shoe fits".

Doyle- "I don't feel like I'm voting for the lesser of two evils and think both would make a Damn fine President!"- I couldn't agree more!

I don't think you are sexist. If you wouldn't vote for any woman that would make you sexist.

Offhand I would say yes, but then I never take anything I say offhand for granted and I sometimes apply the same criteria to others. Your title says "because she is a woman" then you go into "she uses her gender" and then finally how a supporter used her gender.

So you are judging a candidate not by her cover, but by a friendly review from a random person? That's not sexist, that's just plain old dumb.

You then state that you want to see a "qualified" woman in the white house, with the implication that somehow she is not "qualified." Would you also want to see a "qualified" man in the white house as well? If you are willing to have a non qualified man in the white house over a non qualified women in the white house then I suppose you are sexist.

While I disagree with a lot of the positions and ideas of Hilary, I have to take issue with the notion of "qualified." All of the candidates that have run and are running have got to be infinitely better than Millard Fillmore ever was.

I do love Doyle...I do love Doyle... I do love Doyle ----- Lori

Lori, were you trying to remind yourself of that? : )

Christopher - What qualified means to you is one thing. What qualified means to me or Lori is another.

Obama is more qualified by my criteria because he has opposed the war since the onset. He has also refused money from pharmaceutical companies. There are many more issues that make him qualified for me.

Melaine- I can not believe you took that seriously. It was an example to show that I can prefer something over another and not be a racist just like I can prefer an male president and not be sexist. Thanks for calling me a racist though when you don't even know me.

Just because I have a preference does not make me sexist or racist. Now if I said I refuse to vote for a woman under any circumstance or I won't talk to someone because of the color of their skin that would make me sexist or racist.

Of course I never said either.

Chris E- You just really don't get it do you?

#1. I was also using your example as an example, I didn't state you actually felt that way.

#2. I think you're in denial LOL.

Lets put this another way, what if I were to say something along the lines of, "I prefer my boss to be white."

Or: "I prefer my friends to be white."

Why? Because... lighter skinned people are just more appealing to you?

(Please note I do NOT feel this way.. It is an example)

Sorry... but if you prefer a type of person based upon gender... hmm.. gee lets see what does that mean? Just like if you prefer a person based upon race.. hmm.. gee lets see what does that mean?

If you have a problem with being prejudice then maybe you should examine that side of yourself a bit more, open your mind a bit more, and try to change that which you do not like about yourself.

Wow, such self-hating women. It is downright pathetic to listen to men slam Hillary without really knowing her experience, or her policies. But, to hear WOMEN slamming her in the same fashion.....ugh.

I agree with Doyle - it is laziness, ignorance and self-hatred. What has this woman ever done to you? What specifically do you not agree with in her policy statements? Have you read her policy white papers? Can you quote her voting record on a number of the major issues? Do you know what she accomplished professionally prior to being First Lady?

I must say that I hear aLOT of this Hillary bashing from C-Span callers who are obviously Southern white women. What IS it about these women? Do they just hate other women in general, or is it just STRONG, EDUCATED women in a position of leadership? They actually spit into the phone with hatred, and when asked WHY they feel this way, they just bring up Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky. Do they blame Hillary for being intelligent and strong, but not being able to keep "her man" from straying? Would it have been different if she had been a sweet-spoken, church-goin', "honey, you can do no wrong" type like Laura Bush?

What is this self-hatred that Southern women seem to have? Is it that they are under-educated and completely brain-washed by their fundamentalist religion that tells them they are second-class citizens, only alive to breed and serve their husbands and the lord?

Vote for who you want, but be honest about why you are not voting for someone.

"I'm not so sure Hillary is a woman. Have you seen the bulge in her pantyhose? "

Looks like somebody just made Sheryl's point. The subservient Laura Bush type is not strong enough and the strong woman is too manly.

"Just because I have a preference does not make me sexist or racist. "
Wow. I prefer to hire white males in my business . . . and only white males. No women, no blacks, no hispanics, no oriental or indians . . . Just white men. I'm not a racist or a sexist . . . but the Federal Government doesn't agree. They seem to think that IS a problem. You know why? Because it IS sexist and racist. Melanie is right . . . somebody's in denial.

Melanie . . . you made it as clear as possible . . . I just wonder if you're being listened to with an open mind. Would it be sexist of me if I said you got a pretty icon there, cupcake? LoL!

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~

Doyle - maybe the ultimate form of equality for women is to be able to bash themselves just as well, or even better, than men have the freedom to do. Maybe they can start figuring out a way to physically abuse themselves as well - bring back the hairshirt and self-flagalation. I repeat....UGH.

To each his own. The reason for voting or not voting for someone varies from person to person and that is well and good. Like Lori, commented we did the best and most qualified person at the helm of our Government no matter what race or gender.

"Like Lori, commented we did the best and most qualified person at the helm of our Government no matter what race or gender. "

A bit of flip-flopping on the issue by lori there Juan. The question was is she sexist (Read the title) and this, from the title:

"...One Of The Reasons I Won't Vote For Hillary Is Because She Is A Woman?"
The title says it all. One of the reasons is sexist.

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~

Chris: If you prefer a male, any male regardless of how unqualified, over any female no matter how well qualified, then you are sexist. You are choosing an accident of birth over qualifications. If you prefer a specific male over a specific female because the male is better qualified or more experienced, then you are not sexist. The same holds true if you simply like the male candidate better because of flaws in the female one.

The only time you could be labeled sexist is if you honestly believe that no woman can every be as qualified as any man and therefore no woman should ever be president.

Lyndon -

Bret says: "...one thing I've always admired about the Republicans is their ability to throw all their differences aside and unite behind one candidate for President."

There is no doubt the Republicans do this, Lyndon. Just look back in their history and you'll see. Look back in our history and you'll see dissension. When the Republicans finally decide on just one candidate, watch what happens. As Democrats, you may not like the unity they show..........and it happens right on schedule, every 4 years.

Unite behind a What? Unite behind a flag as a Depends?
Unite behind the curtains?
Unite behind a false fear?
Unite behind daddy's politics?
Unite behind.
Unite behind.

Lyndon, I know that you and most of the Democratic party don't like hearing this. You also don't like hearing that there is a Conservative Democrat in your midst. Sorry, but you aren't running me off. I'm going to make this party take its medicine, kicking and screaming if I have to...............that's why I'm so popular at Illinois Democratic meetings....LOL.
They don't like hearing that we need to be Centrists to win elections. They only like hearing 'warm fuzzies', like there are plenty of rich people to pay for all their pet pork projects. Well, I usually spoil those dreams with a hefty dose of reality. We need to shift away from the Left, and toward the Center. Otherwise it will be another 8 or more years until we get a decent opportunity like this one now.

Ron -

The underlined section above was just for you.

NO, I don't think you are sexiest. I will not vote for a woman because I don't think this country is ready for a woman president and second is because I don't want an other Clinton in office. Her husbands morals are all wrong. Look at what he did and don't say she didn't do it. They are married to each other. What one spouse does effects the other. I won't vote for Obama either. I don't want someone that isn't a Christian for Our American President !!!!! where is our country heard? People better remember what has happened in our past before you see the furture!

Nope.

I have the same issue. I weighed my options in the primaries and I voted for who I thought would make the best president.

I'm a little sick of people like NOW telling me I'm a gender traitor if I don't vote for a woman just because I am one.

This country is in the crapper because of the the last 7 years of divisive politics. I want a president who can fix our problems and bring this country back together. I don't care if that person is a man or a woman frankly, as long as I think they can do the job.

Lori, I agree with you 110%! No offense, how could I possibly think someone like Hillary is qualified for this position when she has flip flopped several types on her position on various issues during her whole campaign. In addition, she has yet to come clean about her skeletons in the closet and hand over the documentation about previous activities, which is proof to me that is deceitful and how could I trust someone like that??

I, too, would love for a woman to be president, but that woman has to be able to stand firm on her stances on issues, no matter what criticism comes her way and be truthful about her past by admitting her mistakes instead of trying to cover it up in the hopes people will forget about them. Someone who has morals and ethics, which is something Hillary lacks.

Why have a black AND a woman running for President? Why not roll both up into one individual? Hey, Condoleeza Rice fits the bill!

I heard her name tossed around the other day for McCain's VP nomination, and it sounded interesting.

"Hey, Condoleeza Rice fits the bill!"

And you call yourself a moderate democrat??? You are a hoot, Bret.

There are other women who definately would make a better president....what about Elizabeth Dole?

"Hey, Condoleeza Rice fits the bill!"

LMAO !

That she might run with McCain has me drooling! What a great GOP idea it would be to tie yourself to the National Security Advisor who sank this Nation INTO the Iraq Quagmire (During her watch) after allowing the strike against us on 9/11 . . . . and who NOW as Secretary of State is responsible for diplomacy (including Iraq, Iran, Pakistan and Afghanistan) . . . more failures . . . and can they really spare her from her Board of Director's seat at Exxon-Mobile that much longer?

Damn! Talk about setting yourself up to lose.

Sheryl, bret there is one deluded individual seeking attention . . . he has NO Democrats he supports, only RepubliCONs. It's like the occassional oddball Boy trying to join Girl Scouts or girl trying to join Boy Scouts. A way to get some attention from people who weren't held enough as a child or face other unknown issues.

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~

". . . what about Elizabeth Dole? "

A 72 yr. old RepubliCON from the Ronnie RayGun & Bush I Administration? She'd be 76 years old before she could even mount a campaign.

Incidentally, it was the GOP that gave her the boot last . . . after the 2006 elections when she was chair of the NSRC and Shumer kicked her butt from across the aisle in both raising money AND recruiting.

Brilliant thinking. She'd make a lovely . . . lovely . . . . Candy-date!

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~

Hey, Lyndon....whatever you were on last night....I like it...have some more. : - )

Doyle....can you imagine Condi as VP? McCain kicks over and we end up with her as POTUS! The ice queen herself, taking orders from the Bushes from their palace resort in Saudi Arabia.

It'd be quicker and easier to just tell the American Public "We have NO intention of trying to win"! Putting Condi on the ticket does the same thing, essentially.

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~

Hillary is not my candidate.. Has nothing to do with her sex I just think she is to polarizing. She brings out all of the whacko right wing nuts. However, if she is the nominee I will campaign for her. Having said that I think both her and Obama will make great presidents.

I agree somewhat with Bret. When the Repubs have a candidate they march lockstep with that candidate. Don't know if they will do it this time but...

Condi for VP.. Not a chance. She is just as much a failure as the rest of the Bush administration.

Sheryl, is it just me or do you get the distinct impression that some people will ALWAYS be saying . . . ummmm . . . . like, ya know . . . I would vote fer a womens . . . just not This one . . . errrrr . . . how about (insert RepubliCON woman's name who can NEVER run here) . . . or . . . ya know . . . like . . . some day I think . . . but THIS one . . . I just can't.

Yep. We'll hear that from some of the SAME people every single time a woman runs . . . until you can find a smart, Conservative, RepubliCON, pretty, soft, sensitive, unassuming, aggresive, God-fearing, passive, ambitious, homebody, introverted extrovert that might fill the bill. . . . And apparently she'll be needing balls too . . . I presume she can carry them in her purse.

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~

"She brings out all of the whacko right wing nuts. "
So what? The Dems could put a Biblical Kind David on the ballot and they'd vote against him. Whacko wingnuts are a given WHOEVER runs.

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~

Yeah, Doyle...don't hold your breath for that scenario.

"Whacko wingnuts are a given WHOEVER runs"

Ain't THAT the truth! Look at Rush Limbaugh and the conniption fit he's having over McCain!

Respectfully Doyle and Sheryl I disagree somewhat. I think that those same whackos may just stay home if our nominee is not Hillary..

Remember... I never said I would not vote for her. I think she would be a great president. I just think that all those god fearing bigots will come out in droves to vote against her.

Doyle -

I don't support anyone in the race. Obama is way too Far Left. His #1 most Liberal Senator rating by the National Journal sealed his doom. As for Hillary.............well, she's just Hillary. And she's tied to the 90's of her absurd salacious husband who seems to open his big pie-hole at exactly the wrong time these days.

And McCain? He's not Conservative enough...........although his more Centrist appeal will sway a lot of Hillary voters away from their awful choice.

i came back to get the verdict...and give you comment number 100!

Lyndon -

I'm not for Obama or for Hillary. Both are Far Too Left. We've chosen poorly again.

As I've said a million times before, the votes are in the Center. And this time, who's the closest to Centrist voters? McCain!

Why do we keep doing this to ourselves? This election was ours to lose, and already we've lost it.

Female or Black? Who cares!
If we want a Democrat in the White House, our love of everything Leftist isn't going to get us elected.

"And this time, who's the closest to Centrist voters? McCain!"

Yeah . . . the American public LONGS for 100 years in Iraq. Brilliant thinking putz.

"This election was ours to lose, and already we've lost it."
No WE haven't! You and you idiot GOP maggots that tied yourselves to that failed invasion and occupation have. Sayanora loser!

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~

Doyle -

Did you actually see the interview when McCain said that? It was an "off the cuff" remark............and blown WAY out of context by the media............and of course, the Left. I'm not defending him. I think he pissed off a lot of people with it. But it won't be enough for him to lose an election over.

When our two top candidates tear each other to pieces publicly, the voters will not respond kindly to that. The internal ass-kicking has already commenced, Doyle. It won't stop until the party is in full revolution.
When that happens, how many of those voters do you think we'll get?
Answer : very few.

Advantage - them.

"I'm not defending him."
Why the HELL not? You defend the whole sorry sack of them? I was waiting for the "But . . ."!

"But it won't be enough for him to lose an election over."
LMAO ! ! ! Perfect. There just HAD to be a but. No . . . there will be more reason than that for him to lose. Like bitching about negative campaigns while conducting his own . . . . Nice character.

Like tying his campaign to Booshie and his illegal invasion and occupation. Nice way to support the US Constitution, eh?

John McCain opposes restrictions on so-called "assault rifles" Cool . . . nothing beats an uzi when deer hunting.
John McCain opposes bans on the importation of certain types of ammunition magazines and has voted against such limitations.
You NEED high capacity magazines in case pheasant tend to flock AT you while hunting.
Of course, he's ALL FOR armor piercing ammunition . . .
Cops aren't being killed fast enough because of those stupid bullet proof vests.
And forget "Waiting periods for background checks.
Someone pissed at their wife needs a gun NOW!
John McCain supports supplementing the current Social Security system with personal accounts which would make the solvency problem worsen by depriving the fund of income.
Families should receive quality, accountable medical care at lower costs by harnessing market competition.
Yeah, that shit's worked so WELL for us we have millions uninsured, and tens of thousands suffering and thousands dying. Brilliant.
John McCain believes that a government "of the people, by the people, and for the people" must remain ever faithful to that noble charge. America needs leadership devoted to the public interest, not the special interest, and a government that fulfills its duties with unfailing integrity, accountability, and common sense.
Gee, wonder which GOP candidate took more special interest money than he did? Oh yeah . . . NOBODY.
Supports a balance budget, no new taxes and continuing in IRAQ. What a buffoon. Bet he supports rainbows too. This CANNOT be done.

Only blind people like you would think this idiot has ANYTHING to offer.

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~

Obama and Clinton too far left?????

Uh Clinton is what I think of as a Republican, based on my 50's and 60s political upbringing. Obama is a moderate who could have been in either party back then.

I think Clinton is a bit too conservative for me but I'll gladly vote for her if she's running against McCain or whatever the Republicans choose. Obama is a little less conservative but not far enough to the left for me either. I'd vote for him unquestioningly for the same reason I'd vote for Clinton.

McCain says the most horrible things in a jocular moderate tone of voice. They play entirely differently if you read them than if you hear him say them. He's scary.

Doyle -

"I'm not defending him."
Why the HELL not? You defend the whole sorry sack of them? I was waiting for the "But . . ."!"

First of all, I have no horse in this race.
McCain can defend himself.
So can Hillary, so can Obama.

I'm just going to sit back and watch them peck each other to death. The Hillary-Obama cock-fight looks to be a good and bloody one.