HUD HOUSING - About to Cry... HELP!!!!

Have you tried explaining you're situation to the lady? Maybe she would have an alternative for you.
Also try this: You may not need to go thru his adoptive parents:
http://travel.state.gov/passport/services/cert/cert_2257.html

Just because your husband is adopted does not mean he shouldn't have a birth certificate. The grants they get for the housing probably requires this documentation, but without knowing what kind of housing you are applying for, I don't know.

I'm sorry I don't know HUD laes in your state, but if he was able to get a drivers license, he must of had a birth certificate at some point--how did he enter school? I would look into ways of finding this document rather, or ask the social worker you are dealing with about this. She may be able to help you in that matter.

I wish you all the best, hon. I'll put this on the prayer chain.

I've never heard about needing a birth certificate for HUD, sorry I can't help much.

While you had her on the phone you should have just asked her about it,.

Though I need to find out about the HUD laws in my area mom wants me out.. which means if that happens.. NO internet.. Since I would have a computer...

Ashley ~ I did talk to the lady about the situation and she told me on the phone, she would do further research on the matter, then again, I may have misunderstood her quirks of her not wanting to help us? Who knows? I'm still going to be persistent about it, since we definitely need this housing, not only for ourselves, but for our newborn daughter.

Felicia, not necessarily true. The libraries offer FREE Internet with a library card. Its pretty neat. I've did it when my pc was down and so forth. Good luck on the Internet. I hate going without Internet, too! :)

You can get replacement birth certificates by going to the town hall in the city you were born to apply for a replacement, or you can apply online. With him being adopted, depending on what information they need from you to get a copy, it might be a little harder to get, but maybe not.. ya never know.. heres the link to apply in indiana http://www.in.gov/isdh/bdcertifs/birth_and_death_certificates.htm I Googled it for ya. Good luck! Dealing with HUD or any kind of govt anything is always a hassle, but hopefully you can get it. :O)

I sure don't understand the roadblocks organizations put in peoples' ways! I'll be praying you'll find out soon what the deal is.

But I agree, there should be some documentation where he can get his birth certificate, not through the parents. It should be in the county records where he was born. They charge a small fee for a notarized copy (which constitutes the "original"). Something like $10 or so.


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I was going to say what Suze said. I lost mine, and getting a replacement isn't a problem at all. My son is adopted, and his birth certificate looks just like any other, and we are listed as his parents. A closed adoption birth certificate has the names replaced as soon as the adoption is final.

You can look online and fnd a place tha will order his birth certificate. All you need to know is where he was born, his birth name and date...I think it costs $15-$20

oh..duh.. you dont need the link to the Indiana place unless he was born in Indiana.. you need the link to wherever he was born.. lol.. but that should be available online too. :O)

Ok.. No problem, Suze, but I remember when I ordered mine (I wasn't adopted), they asked for a load of information (mother's maiden name), which makes me wonder.. can he get it without knowing a load of information?

Aside from explaining your situation to them, I have no other advice. I'm sorry I can't be of more help.

Good luck to you, though.

I hope everything works out for you!

I too hope that everything can work out for you with your new baby and all!!! Good luck!!

I have a friend who obtained housing from HUD about 7 years ago. She did have to have a birth certificate for her, and her child. I assume she still does.

I would think as long he knows his adopted mom's info he should be able to get it..especially if it was a closed adoption, his adopted mom is his mom and should be listed on his birth certificate as his mom, so she's the one they'd be interested in.

hard one to call....but I would talk to the head person

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Good luck with everything praying for your situation.

Me too, saying a prayer for you and your family! :) Good Luck I hope everything works out.

You should be able to get a certified copy in the state/county that he was born in. I have had to write for both my husbands and my sons. The costs are minimal and its worth to have more than one copy. The certified copies are accepted as the original. They have an official seal on them. So start with where he was born, then contact the county recorder of births there. They should be able to get your copy that way. Take care Michelle. Don't fret hon - it will all work out.

He should of got new birth certificate when he was adopted with is adopted parents names on it to my understanding.

they have started asking for BC's because of the illegal aliens. can he not purchase one from the health department? Alabama has passed a law allowing adult adopted children to obtain birth certificates.

i found this too


Adoption FAQ's FAQ Menu Adoption Estates Guardianships and Alternatives Marriage License Living Trusts
Who may adopt?
1. A husband and wife jointly
2. Step-parent
3. Single Adult


Who may be adopted?
1. Minor child
2. An adult person determined to be totally and permanently disabled or mentally retarded
3. An adult may adopt another adult provided a parent-child relationship existed during the adoptee's minority


Who must consent?
The parents of the child to be adopted, a minor being adopted who is over the age of 12 years, and an adult adoptee must consent to adoption. However, under certain circumstances, consent may be waived. Therefore, questions concerning consent should be directed to an agency or attorney.


Is a Home Study Necessary?
Yes. Regardless of the type of adoption, a home study is required. An individual known as an assessor, who is qualified and trained for the task, will complete the home study.


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Is the Birth Certificate Changed?
Yes. The original birth certificate will be sealed and a new birth certificate issued. The adopting parent or parents will be reflected on the birth certificate, just as though they had been the biological parents. Adopted children born in Ohio or a foreign country, receive their new birth certificate from the Bureau of Vital Statistics, Columbus, Ohio. Children adopted in Ohio, but born in other states, obtain their new birth certificates from the Bureau of Vital Statistics in the state where they were born.

a friend of mine had this problem. so he went through the process of getting baptized. in most states the baptism certificate is as good as a birth certificate

Yikes...good luck....the difference is probably post 911 and security precautions...you can order a copy of his birth certificate from the state he was born or adopted in.

If he has a social security number they must have a record of his birth to be able to get that, I would start there, perhaps they can help you out. I know that is a necessity to get a SS card. good luck Michelle

Looks like everyone before me has given you great information. Unfortunately I have nothing to add, but my prayers!

Having worked with mortgages and the housing industry, I can tell you that you are up for a fight that is tough to win. HUD has regulations and a large bureaucracy. Unless you are a squatter, you have no rights to have rules bended or broken.

I used to collect information for a trade association on a monthly basis. I had authorization to get the stats I needed to produce a monthly newsletter. Still, the person who furnished them to me (her name was really Gay Hore and she used it proudly) would give me such a hard time, that I would procrastinate, trying every other avenue to get the required figures, including competitive banking associations.

When bureaucracy is involved, people like to defend their little fiefdoms.

they make a good points in their comments! What documentation did he use to get his license, whatever he used there should be sufficient for HUD too! If it was just his adoption papers or something of that nature then copies of those would probably work. As for the birth certificate he doesn't need his adoptive parents to get a copy of it, he just needs to know the county he was born in and can get a copy at the courthouse. If he doesn't know where he was born then that is a problem! I wish you luck with this please post an update and let us know how it turns out!

there is a lot of good advice above

it would see you should contact a lawyer who specializes in the housing authority field. There are legal ways that cannot deny housing.

Lora, I am sorry, I'm not trying to be mean, nor cynical by saying this... But people who need HUD cannot afford lawyers. Even if the legal field is on a pay if you win basis.

I'd also bet that Michelle is limited on time since having a newborn, and also with funds. It is more wise to use time where it will give the best result in the least amount of time.

Rules are rules with the housing authority, and the waiting lists are so backed up for years. If Michelle is on the top, I'd tell her to do whatever she can to make sure she follows the rules to get that birth certificate ASAP. Because she should not risk being put on the end of the waiting list. These agencies will not hold her spot, as there are many families that need housing.

The online agencies (VitalCheck is authorized by all of the states) that can get birth certificates, well, they deal with hard cases too. It would be easier to call them, and explain, and the agents should know how to search for the best way to get the certified copy of the birth certificate.

I don't know enough to help. Best of luck to you.

I was adopted too and you can still get your birth certificate,your adopted parents names is all you need.

I was adopted myself and when I needed my birth certificate I wasn't sure where to go (because I didn't know what city I was born in). I called vital records and was able to find out that all birth certificates for adoptions were in Raleigh. So, I was able to go and get the original one downtown. If you wanted to go into the vital records building or call them I think they would be able to tell you. When I was adopted, it was a closed adoption, but I was able to work through it. Is the waiting list for HUD long where you live? My husband and I got on the list a year ago and are still waiting. When I called I was told the waiting list for the county we live in is a 2 to 4 year wait.

All good advice above. Good luck !!

ummm...just because your man is adopted does not mean he does not have a birth certifcate....when you are adopted a new birth certificate is issued with new parents names...he just needs to call up the state and county where he was adopted, and find out the cost of ordering a new one...HUD does not need his brth parents names or his original birth certificate just his current one...anyone can get their own.

Hi Michelle. I am adopted and I have a regular birth certificate. Also, you can get a replacement BC very easily...I just had to get one for my hubby and it took less than 1 week to get.

He can request, by mail, from the county of his adoption, for a copy of his birth certificate. You should be able to find he county information on line for what the address information is and what the cost would be. I hope your housing situation is resolved to your liking soon!

In most states a birth certificate is a matter of public record. I was able to get a certified copy of my Mom's birth certificate for her.

The specific laws are going to be slightly different in each state but it is NOT impossible to get a copy of his birth certificate. As someone else pointed out it seems strange that he would be able to get a drivers license or go to school without a birth certificate.

School - his parents enrolled him ever since he was younger. Once he turned 18, he was no longer in school.

Driver's license - he told them his situation and they accepted a social security card and an ID (he had previously).

As for the birth certificate - we've tried applying recently online after listening to everyone and we knew ALL information except for (If adopted, what is your legal name? First, Middle and Last?). The only problem is, we know his last name before being adopted, but we aren't sure HOW to spell it. Its French. It sounds phonetically (F-Ernald), which we aren't sure the spelling of? Firnald? Fernald? Who knows the spelling? Anyone know it? Its frustrating. Why would it ask for a legal name BEFORE being adopted? That's nonsense!

We thought online would be easiest (since we do not have long distance phone service and phone cards are expensive).

As for a lawyer like someone mentioned, he tried a lawyer previously for his information when he did have money $$$ when in management and the lawyer stated that his adopted case is closed and RED FLAGGED (which means, the lawyer tried for medical and couldn't even get that information) which the lawyer then told him its impossible to receive his information with his case. ::Sighs::

Any other advice on the birth certificate? We don't know how to spell his last name BEFORE being adopted because it was French. Any other ideas on how we can receive it without having to know this information?

Thanks,

Michelle

Do you know what state he was born in? Or better yet, the county? I'm just curious because when I was trying to find out how I could get a copy of my Mom's birth certificate I called the county she was born in. I found the phone number for the county on the internet and the county website also gave a lot of information about how to get a birth certificate.

If you know the state but not the county I'd be curious what the state dept of health/human services says about getting duplicate copies.

I still think it's possible to get it. It's just a big headache. It's sad that he can't get any information from his birth family - not even medical records.

I was just re-reading your comment Michelle and I'm wondering if you tried to search for the birth certificate under his current/new (not birth) name? If, like some people said, the name of the parents are changed then perhaps the only name on "record" for him is his adopted name.

There is a possibility the legal aid society would help or give advice. See if there is one near you. If you know who handled the adoption - what agency they might be able to help. I understand not wanting to contact his adoptive parents, but I would imagine if he wrote them a nice letter explaining his need for their help, maybe not in specifics, they would write and tell him the info he needs to get one. Not having a birth certificate has got to be very hard...maybe the social security office can help too. He can always get a po box if you don't want his parents to have an address where you are or use a friends address. I hope it all works out for you!