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by David K.
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April 29, 2007

If it's Tuesday, This Must be Belgium - 1/1/08

January 01, 2008 11:36 AM EST (Updated: May 24, 2008 04:53 PM EDT)
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 Happy New Year!!!  And what a new year it will be.  For those who missed the first installment, check out my 12/18/07 entry to get a preamble to my move to Brussels in March.

(http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474977206873&nav=Namespace)

The response to my first missive was very encouraging and I'm starting to get excited about my impending move.  I want to get on over there.  Ah, but there is so much to do.  Luckily many of my fellow Gatherers have stepped up to help guide the way.  Check out, for example, John Philipp's http://johnphilipp.gather.com/ "Stuff and nonsense - Oh, what to move?" and "Moving's for dummies" and also JoAnn C.'s (http://joanninct.gather.com/) "My vacation Parts I (Paris), II(Rome), and III (Munich)."

And many others with ideas for places to visit once I get there.

First up - figuring out what to do with my townhouse (rent?), car (sell/donate to charity?), banking (2 accounts? 1 here/1 there?), taxes (am I paying US taxes or EU??), finding an apartment to rent in Brussels (you want HOW many Euro for that?), etc.  Not to mention such mundane things like getting new business cards with my Brussels office address, figuring out how I'm going to manage my US clients from Europe, and working out the cell phone issues (do I get one here or wait until I get there?), etc.

Any suggestions?

Next Tuesday - Whose stuff is this?

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Comments: 121

Elaine M. Jan 1, 2008, 11:40am EST
I'll be living vicariously through your adventurous tales :-)
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David K. Jan 1, 2008, 11:43am EST
Elaine - I honored. Hope to make them interesting.
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Jennifer S. Jan 1, 2008, 11:45am EST
I envy you! I visited Brussels when I was studying in Germany and absolutely loved it. The thing that struck me most was the mix of people and languages everywhere I turned. It's a beautiful city,so please publish lots of photos once you get there!
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La Bellota Jan 1, 2008, 11:46am EST
congratulations.....do well......and good luck with your move. I cannot wait to hear more....and Happy New Year David.
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David K. Jan 1, 2008, 11:47am EST
I will Jennifer...lots and lots of photos...

Attached to this article are some of Paris, which I'll also post in my image section
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David K. Jan 1, 2008, 11:47am EST
Happy New Year to you La Bellota
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Marilyn M. Jan 1, 2008, 11:51am EST
I cannot offer any advice, but I plan on learning lots from you. :-)
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sheila h. Jan 1, 2008, 11:51am EST
Wow! Good Luck!
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David K. Jan 1, 2008, 11:53am EST
Shots? Hmm, didn't think about that. Thanks.
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becky soccer mom x1 p. Jan 1, 2008, 11:54am EST
wow
good luck will be waiting for even more on the move
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shannon k. Jan 1, 2008, 11:55am EST
hopefully there will be Americans in the Brussels office who can help you with those logistics
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David K. Jan 1, 2008, 11:57am EST
Shannon - the office is supposed to put me in touch with ex-Pats over there, which will be good for learning the ropes. But I definitely want to integrate into the local culture(s) as much as possible.
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penni d. Jan 1, 2008, 11:57am EST
Belgium is beautiful, the people are diversified and friendly...wonder what the gas prices are nowadays over there? you are centainly in for some adventures,david!! hope you post them,lol....Good Luck on your move :)
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Digital Diva S. Jan 1, 2008, 12:00pm EST
Wow, I'm looking froward to your move too. talk to an accountant about taxes. We live outside of the US too and pay what is called world tax - we pay taxes where we live and work.

Thank you for posting this to my new group Best Original Photos, Art and Writing For 2008.
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Barbara C. Jan 1, 2008, 12:02pm EST
I visited Belgium for a week about 7 years ago. If you like castles, they have a lot of them there. In the Bruge area we found a posted driving directions tour of castles that took us around to castles hidden in modern developed areas, some that had turned into inns, some that gave tours, etc. It was a lot of fun and might amuse you.
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Karen M. Jan 1, 2008, 12:05pm EST
All the best. I look forward to your photos and essays. More Lincoln quotes too!
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Nancy S. Jan 1, 2008, 12:07pm EST
Happy New Year David. Don't know when I'll get back there, if ever. Most of my trips are on video. I'm still trying to round up the few pictures I have. I'll be looking forward to your articles.
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Sy g. Jan 1, 2008, 12:20pm EST
David

No shots needed for Europe. Get an international license, before you leave, its very easy, Check out the AAA. But drive carefully at first. Europeans approach driving in a whole different way. Brugge is beautfiul. You can also easily get to many lovely places in France and Holland. I suggest a trip to Leiden, and of course Amsterdam.

The biggest problem you will face will be the European bureaucratic mentality (which is really strong in Brussels, home of the EU), which makes the IRS, MVB and SS in the US look tame. My advice is get someone who knows the system to help. And practise patience. Belgium is better than Italy (where I was) in this regard, but it will be a challenge. Permits, documents, etc, is how they live.

The food is great, the people are friendly. There is also a very large Muslim North African community, some of whom are not as pleasant to Americans as one would like. You will also find lots and lots of British, some of whom actually commute from London.

You will have a grand time. Enjoy. And write often. For those who have never been, and for those who have been to often, it will be a thrill.
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J W. Jan 1, 2008, 12:25pm EST
Happy New Year
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necee t. Jan 1, 2008, 12:26pm EST
wow, David, you have a very interesting new year ahead of you...
Best wishes all the way... God bless you and yours...
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Danielle P. Jan 1, 2008, 12:31pm EST
It sounds like stuff I read in my novels...though they never divulge the mundane everyday tasks of the actual move...In books it just sounds all glamorous and exciting!!
It will be fun to hear of your adventure...
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Maryann C. Jan 1, 2008, 12:31pm EST
Good luck David, and Happy New Year.
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Vivian P. Jan 1, 2008, 12:33pm EST
How wonderful I wish you the best
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Don't get me started!!! B. Jan 1, 2008, 12:35pm EST
Your phone might work over there...I received a call on mine while in Amsterdam - it would be nice if your US clients are needing to call you and visa versa - but don't count on it. Wait til you get there to get one and then it will have the correct innards for the signals there...getting one here that works over there is REALLY expensive and a hassle. Bon Voyage!
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Marianne R. Jan 1, 2008, 12:40pm EST
I don't have any advice, but I wish you the best in your work abroad!
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Curt L. Jan 1, 2008, 12:46pm EST
Happy 2008, David! I look forward to all your future posts!
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David K. Jan 1, 2008, 12:57pm EST
Penni - I'm sure the gas prices are double or triple what they are here. When I was in Scotland a couple of years ago it cost me the equivalent of $8-9 per gallon, while here in the States we were whining about it going over $3 a gallon.
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David K. Jan 1, 2008, 12:59pm EST
Marilyn - I hadn't heard of "world taxes" - I definitely have to find a tax attorney/accountant familiar with international tax issues. Especially since I plan to rent out (not sell) my house here in the States while I'm gone.
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David K. Jan 1, 2008, 1:00pm EST
Barbara - I'm looking forward to seeing a few castles...both in Belgium and throughout Europe.
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David K. Jan 1, 2008, 1:03pm EST
Sy - international drivers license? Something else I hadn't thought of. I'm planning to get an apartment in the city and not have a car, but I'll certainly still need a license for car rentals and for when I come back home. Thanks - I'll definitely check into that.

I'm counting on our office over there to set me straight on various local rules and customs. Plus they said they would set me up with ex-Pats in the area. I have a feeling there will be some "experiences" to get through.
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Nana to Seven Cutiepies Jan 1, 2008, 1:04pm EST
Ha, and I thought moving from PA to SC was an adventure. You have me beat by many miles and an ocean! Best wishes and I look forward to the articles sharing your journey!

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I hope your 2008 is filled with blessings, good health and much happiness.
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David K. Jan 1, 2008, 1:05pm EST
Susan - I need a new cell phone anyway, so this is a good time to make sure it is compatible. I talked with an iPhone rep over the Xmas break and she said that they don't have a service carrier yet in Belgium (but the iPhone is just sooooo cool).
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David K. Jan 1, 2008, 1:06pm EST
Thanks to you all, I know I'll never be too far from friends (assuming, of course, that I can get an internet connection). Hmmmm - better add that to the list.
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Kay M. Jan 1, 2008, 1:35pm EST
Very exciting! Good luck with your move.
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Jennifer F. Jan 1, 2008, 1:40pm EST
If you want to make friends in Brussels and have an instant social life and network, I would consider renting a room in a family's home. I lived with a family in Austria back in 1987 and I still consider them my own family and have kept in touch over the years and re-visited many many times as well as them coming to stay with me here. You would save money, probably get first-class homemade meals, and have people that can ease your transition into this new place.

As for the cell phone issue, as far as I understand, Europe is much more advanced than the U.S. is with cell phones and various plans so I would probably get one there.

Keep us posted - this is so exciting!
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Jerri H. Jan 1, 2008, 1:45pm EST
Thanks for taking us along on your journey!
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Jaime R. Jan 1, 2008, 1:51pm EST
Good luck! It's hard enough to move to a new place in your home country, I can't wait to hear about how you find the answers to all your questions!
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Kimberly Ripley Jan 1, 2008, 1:52pm EST
Happy New Year and best wishes. Sounds exciting!
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Sharon P. Jan 1, 2008, 2:02pm EST
My only trip to Europe was back in the 50's with my parents as a 10 year old going,
& a 15 year old returning from 4 years in Arabia.
I'd love to really see all that as an adult.
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jessie voigts Jan 1, 2008, 2:14pm EST
what a great series. i'm enjoying learning!
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David K. Jan 1, 2008, 2:18pm EST
Maria K - yes, it's not really the best time to move to Europe given the weak dollar and strong Euro. But it's an opportunity I can't pass up.
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David K. Jan 1, 2008, 2:19pm EST
Jennifer - I hadn't thought of moving in with a family. I'm not so worried about a social life though. I'll have colleagues at work that I hope will introduce me around, plus I plan to suddenly become more gregarious than my life up until now has suggested. :)
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David K. Jan 1, 2008, 2:21pm EST
Teresa - thank you...all very helpful advice. I agree that I should get rid of the car. It's aging anyway and I've been toying with getting a new one for the last 2 years (and am so glad I didn't). I like the idea of a motorbike - I'll have to check into that.
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donna h. Jan 1, 2008, 2:23pm EST
HAPPY NEW YEAR DAVID
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David K. Jan 1, 2008, 2:23pm EST
Sharon - Arabia sounds interesting. Have you written about it here on Gather? I'm hoping to get to Africa while I'm there...at least across the straits to Morocco, but hopefully also Egypt, etc. Not sure whether being American is going to impair my ability to travel (and I can't believe I actually felt I needed to say that).
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David K. Jan 1, 2008, 2:25pm EST
Lyla - I definitely will continue the series. I hope to travel frequently to everywhere I possibly can. Before then, I'll post some of my previous travel stories to get everyone in the mood.
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arlene (no shame in my game) w. Jan 1, 2008, 2:50pm EST
OMG! How are you going to stay organized? You need a secretary.
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Karolyn Q. Jan 1, 2008, 2:58pm EST
Sounds wonderful! Good luck! Happy New Year!
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Altair driving around the neighborhood and waving Jan 1, 2008, 3:05pm EST
David, definitely keep a US account. One with no fees, good and secure online access, ATM card, and Bill-Pay features.

!!! Happy New Year's !!!

Confetti NY
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Kathryn E. Jan 1, 2008, 3:14pm EST
I remember the TV show or movie of the same name, back in the 60s - 28 countries in a month. Whew, what a way to travel.
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Melinda ~choosing happiness~ S. Jan 1, 2008, 3:18pm EST
I am so excited for you David, and can't wait to here all about your adventures!! Wishing you a joyful 2008!
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David K. Jan 1, 2008, 3:33pm EST
Arlene - you have that right...I desperately need a personal assistant! Any suggestions?
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David K. Jan 1, 2008, 3:36pm EST
Altair Ego - I think you're right...I'm going to have to keep a US bank account but will also need to get a Belgian account. I'll be working in two different currencies (US dollars and Euros) and have a house here in the States plus need to rent an apartment over there. Okay, who said I need an assistant. Phew.
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David K. Jan 1, 2008, 3:38pm EST
Kathryn - Well, I can't say I'll be doing 28 countries in a month, but it would be really cool if I could get a big chunk of that during my 2-3 year stay.
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David K. Jan 1, 2008, 3:38pm EST
Melinda - and a joyful 2008 back to you as well! It should be an interesting year.
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Sandra ~ D. Jan 1, 2008, 3:39pm EST
I was going to suggest a personal assistant or travel organizer. I'm sure there are lots of them in DC.

This seems like a grand move and can't wait to read more about it.

Happy New Year!
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Margaret C. Jan 1, 2008, 3:52pm EST
sorry i can't give any advice but I am looking forward to some brilliant pictures :) xx
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Patricia F. Jan 1, 2008, 4:15pm EST
David-what an exciting adventure! I am here in NH and it is snowing and snowing-feel we may never venture past our doorstep(!!!) and here you are travelling the world-I look forward to seeing Belgium through your eyes and words-Happy New Year- you lucky dog!!! :)
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Nan G. Jan 1, 2008, 4:28pm EST
David this sounds like a wonderful adventure. I hope you stay in contact and keep us informed about your experiences. I envy you.

Health and happiness to you and yours,
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David K. Jan 1, 2008, 4:48pm EST
It is pretty exciting...but so much to do before I leave.

Lora - good luck with your own move.
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Barb (Gather Site Ferret) Carlson Jan 1, 2008, 5:17pm EST
Gosh, that sure sounds exciting! I hope everything goes smoothly for you.
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James T. Jan 1, 2008, 6:00pm EST
I wish you luck David, sounds like a great opportunity.
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Beverly T. Jan 1, 2008, 6:25pm EST
I'm looking forward to reading all your experiences, good and bad. You have lots of great advice in the comments. What a terrific community Gather is!

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Georgiana S. Jan 1, 2008, 6:26pm EST
Get your mobile phone there, the whole SIM issue is different in Europe.
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David K. Jan 1, 2008, 6:41pm EST
Georgiana - I've heard similar about mobile phones, but then one of the other guys in my office that travels there often uses a Blackberry and it seems to work in both places. (Note to self: Ask frequent travelers in office)
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John B. Jan 1, 2008, 6:56pm EST
Pay US taxes. If you stay out of country 9 months you do not have to pay income tax in the USA. Check with your tax person. Taxes over there are much higher than ours.
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barb h. Jan 1, 2008, 7:11pm EST
Happy New Year!!!
good-luck.
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Kimber L. Jan 1, 2008, 7:32pm EST
Sounds like an adventure! Good luck to you!
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JoAnn C. Jan 1, 2008, 7:46pm EST
HI David. I'm glad you enjoyed my articles and thank you for mentioning them here. As far as a cell phone goes, if you decide to get one here make sure is compatible with the GSM network which is widely used in Europe. T-Mobile and AT&T both have GSM. I have a T-Mobile phone and I used in 2004 to call home when I got there it was $.99 a minute. I'm not sure what the rates are now. I didn't use this last trip. You may be better off getting one there (perhaps a prepaid phone) so you aren't stuck with international roaming charges.
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Lydia (part of the solution) Shelley Jan 1, 2008, 8:17pm EST
Sounds very exciting! Best of luck to you in your relocation and all that it entails!
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Jan S. Jan 1, 2008, 8:33pm EST
Best wishes in your new living adventure and business venture.
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David K. Jan 1, 2008, 9:06pm EST
JoAnn - you're very welcome

GSM network...okay, I'll check that out
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David K. Jan 1, 2008, 9:07pm EST
John B - the office said something about me paying US federal taxes, but not state. I definitely have to work that out still.
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David K. Jan 1, 2008, 9:08pm EST
Spartan - I've been to Brussels a couple of times for work (both just a few, work-packed days), so I'm very interested in branching out to Bruge and other Belgian cities, and Amsterdam, and elsewhere.
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Jessica I. Jan 1, 2008, 9:16pm EST
I can't wait to hear all about your move and what new experiences you come across.
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Susan Sparkman Jan 1, 2008, 9:51pm EST
Dear David,

My advice is to sign up for Vonage with your DC phone number and buy a v-phone; I got my v-phone on e-bay for about half of the retail price of $40.00; $21 including shipping. Then get a great high-speed internet service in your new home. Send me an email with your email address and I can send you an invite from Vonage (that gives me a free month of service!!).

With vonage, my friends in the US continue to call my Denver home phone number and it rings through my laptop here in France.

Having this phone system is a real bonus for dealing with various matters that will arise back in the US no matter how carefully you have planned your move. I think this is especially important if you are going to maintain clients in the US. I had some business dealings to wrap up after my move and it was such a relief to be able to simply dial them up, as if I were still in Denver....they never knew the difference!

I have the $25 per month unlimited calling plan, so all of my calls are free of long distance charges, whether to US numbers, or international numbers.

In addition, I have gotten a cell phone through a French company and have a very low cost pre-paid service. I also have a local home phone number in conjunction with my high speed internet service with Orange. I give my French phone numbers to businesses and friends in our new community.

With these three items, I am covered no matter where I go, as long as I have my v-phone and cell phone with me. I recently went to London for 10 days and enjoyed my US phone service through the free high speed internet connection at my hotel and with my cell phone whenever I was out sight seeing.

As far as decisions about "stuff," my move was linked to my desire to downsize and reorganize my life. So, I sold my home and almost all of my possessions. With the slump in real estate, the sale of the house was my biggest hold up....it took more than a year to sell....hopefully DC is a faster moving market.

Since I flew over with my ddaughter, I could check four bags without fees; I paid the airline to check extra bags and maxed out the weight of all the checked bags to 70 lbs each, paying overweight fees as well. Those charges, about $500 were cheaper than having the basics shipped. Just my most favorite things are stored in a 5'x10'x8' unit, awaiting shipping once I determine a more permanent residence.

Good luck!
Susan
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David K. Jan 1, 2008, 9:58pm EST
Susan - thank you so much for this great advice. I hadn't thought of Vonage (frankly, I'm just getting started thinking about these things....and there seems to be more "things" to think about than I had anticipated).

My firm will pay to ship my stuff (work and home) to Brussels, though I think I need to ask them to pay for additional storage since I doubt my King bed and big couches will fit in a small apartment. Still, I definitely need to downsize my stuff.
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Shirl T. Jan 1, 2008, 10:43pm EST
I CANT GIVE ANY ADVICE BUT WISH YOU LUCK CANT WAIT TO SEE LOTS OS PICTURES AND THINGS FROM THERE HAVE A GREAT NEW YEAR
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Coquijontas S. Jan 1, 2008, 10:49pm EST
Best of luck, mind you - you are off to gain in culture and experience - what an insight to convey as a writer.
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joe s. Jan 1, 2008, 11:13pm EST
Well David i hope all your questions can be answered. But frankly its a good time to buy/rent an appartment or house. Hope you had a good New Year. From Moscow, Joe S.
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Lyn Owen Jan 1, 2008, 11:32pm EST
Sounds like a really great change. Enjoy.
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Trish A. Jan 1, 2008, 11:46pm EST
This sounds like quite an adventure!

I hope you have a glorious 2008!
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Leigh Featherstone Jan 1, 2008, 11:46pm EST
Happy New Year!
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Dave McGill Jan 1, 2008, 11:59pm EST
sounds exciting.....good luck...
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EVA Z. Jan 2, 2008, 1:06am EST
Have a good day.
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CRYSTAL C. Jan 2, 2008, 3:20am EST
The moveing is as exciting as the move!
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René Allen Jan 2, 2008, 3:56am EST
Happy New Year, David! Keep your EXCITEMENT ALIVE!

Blessings on your new Journey.

Rene A.
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ness m. Jan 2, 2008, 8:30am EST
As the price of fuel is a lot more than you are used to think about using Public Transport system which as in most European Cities is excellent, food is great and the Beer is among the best in Europe, a direct rail link to London via the Euro- Tunnel.
Use French when ever you can, most people speak English but admires any one who makes the effort.
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David K. Jan 2, 2008, 8:47am EST
Thanks Joe - hoping to get to Moscow as well.
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David K. Jan 2, 2008, 8:47am EST
Thanks Rene
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David K. Jan 2, 2008, 8:49am EST
Ness - I'm planning to live in the city and walk/take the metro/tram wherever I can, and rent a car only when I want to drive out into the countryside.

I bought Rosetta Stone and started learning French yesterday.
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Mark Lange Jan 2, 2008, 10:59am EST
No advice, just envy!~
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jessie voigts Jan 2, 2008, 12:27pm EST
david - i've been thinking a lot. intercultural education is my field. so, what i'd suggest (i love to read) is to check out many of the books from intercultural press - they are an INCREDIBLE resource.

also, i just found this book:
the expert expat - your guide to successful relocation abroad - by melissa brayer hess and patricia linderman, (revised edition, 2007); nicholas brearley publishing.

i'll keep thinking!! good luck!
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David K. Jan 2, 2008, 1:17pm EST
Thanks Jessie - I'll check them out. Very much appreciated.
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George Corneliussen Jan 2, 2008, 1:25pm EST
David,

Very intertesting. As the world continues to get smaller, I wonder how long it will before moving to a place like Brussels will be no more complicated than moving state to state is here. Good Luck !


If you are inclided to watch, here's the link to the new Corn Dog Video.

Corn Dog Video # 4
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David K. Jan 2, 2008, 1:28pm EST
Thanks George. As far as I can tell so far, we certainly haven't reached that point yet.
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Sherrie H. Jan 2, 2008, 2:00pm EST
Sounds like you have a lot of work ahead of you. When I lived in Germany, it was with my ex, who was an officer in the army. The governemnt took care of almost everything -- even then, it was a complicated move. Good luck!
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