Women killed in Iraq for how they dressed

I wish every man involved with this travesty would be punished, it is ridiculous that MEN impose these insane dress codes. I hope every man involved gets a horrific disease on his manhood.

sorry I had to rant.

ps...I am not too happy with men lately

Yes, Islam is SUCH a peaceful religion....

Rant away - it's appalling !!!! It's monstrous !!!! And they have the nerve to call the West "evil" ?!

Women tortured and tossed in the garbage, just because they didn't wear an extreme religious fashion, is utterly monstrous. They are monsters !!!

Horrible and sick! Here we call that murder one! There I guess it's something that obviously they can just DO and get away with. Man, that sucks!

Things like this make me feel violent in a way that I can't describe. It is unconscionable! The only other crime that truly makes me feel as though I could be driven to viscous acts is munchausen by proxy. That sickens me.

Yiles, and very appalling. Makes me feel safe knowing I'm not there....I'd be killed for sure.

yikes

This is so tragic. I feel so bad for how some of the women are treated. It is a problem that I hope soon stops altogether. I know that is wishful thinking but we can hope right?

A tragedy.

Suddenly, we see why Saddam Hussein was useful in that region.

They kill Christians over there, too.

It is true that people commit all sorts of crime in the name of religion, but then people are people and will always be people. Islam is a peaceful religion. The criminal and irrational behaviour of some sects cannot be use to pass judgement on all Moslems all over the world. It's like saying all United States youths in High Schools and in the Universities are pyschos because some sick individuals have made it a new culture to go trigger happy shooting innocent people on campuses nowadays.

Disgusting. This is not a problem only to Iraq. Islam has a problem in general with the treatment of women. That guy in Canada killed his own daughter because she refused to wear the hijab! Islam needs to figure itself out and get over itself.

Islam needs to get moderate. It seems to be getting more extremist. War makes things extreme. Iraq was a mess under secularist Saddam but it was lovely compared to today. In Saddams' Iraq women went to beauty parlors and had their hair done. That doesn't make you a better person to have big hair but it's a BIG first step in having any freedom.

Yes, and they're killing Christians there now, too. Under Saddam there were Christian Cathedrals in Iraq.

You don't want to be a woman, Christian, gay or Jew in most Muslim countries. It is a "religion of peace" in its own advertising but it isn't playing out that way in too many Middle Eastern countries.

Women are not considered or valued in these regions; only use they are for is to reproduce or satisfy the men.
Muslims are not all like this, and the Koran is not about hate. It is misconstrued in a horrible way.
The Bible and Christianity has it's own people who hide behind religion to abuse others with their hate. "Love thy neighbor...the Golden Rule.....etc" All ignored when a extremist is killing or harming others with vile and destructive behavior. Examples: gays, abortion doctors, and even some society in USA is judged to the hilt by others who use the Bible as their sword.
There are nut cases in every religion. I don't think it is the religion that is bad, it is the people who practice it and skew things to back their own personal agenda.

Barbaric!!! This is absolutely disgusting, the people responsible should be "SKINNED ALIVE".

How awful. Yet, this kind of thing should teach us to be more progressive here. Women are still treated as sexual objects through the media--I find all of it unacceptable and disgusting.

hey peter i missed you and your topics , but man it hurts me to read this one i do not understand people at all dear , so many people hurt each other for a faith in a god that may or may not even be real you know what i mean . people hurt each other for all kinds of reasons and i do not think that any of them are a good reason , you hurt some one cuse they have a differant faith then you , hurt someone cuse you do not like they way that they are dressed , hurt some one for the fact that they are a differant color then you , hurt someone for the fact that you have more money then them, hurt someone hell for the shoes that they have that you want . it is everywhere and it always has been people talk about " oh things have been getting bad everyone is killing everyone" i say hey it has been going on for as long as we have been around it is people and i do not understand why but alot of it is just so sad you know well better stop rembling here lol and let people with bigger brains talk lol love ya peter

It's tragic..

Wow. That's really scary.

Women were much better off in Iraq before bush decided to teach the
Iraqis a lesson .

I think it's more a morality lesson in what happens when religion comes to take over a government. I have no doubt that if a fundamentalist group of any denomenation took over here, we'd have similar things, eventually.

isn't that a form of perversion forcing a women to dress so she isn't attractive ?

That is very sick on the mens part

I think it's just tragic what women have to endure over there.

Those men are such animals.

And we're worried about waterboarding. Pfft.

Yep, John, Extremists are extremists and I'm glad the Christians gave up burning at the stake a while ago now.

M&M - I'm afraid they are far worse than animals !!! Dogs don't do that to each other.

Waterboarding is to be worried about for its own reasons.

Karen, I hate to be rude, if you truly believe that, pack your shit and leave the U. S. so they won't be "your" soldiers anymore and won't be "grouped" with them.

I'm open to all conspiracy theories. I end up not believing most of them, but I'm open.

Ty phoon and Bobbie sure have got it right on based on my readings on this subject, and Vivian, it is so much more and worse than just that. I can recomend a fairly easy reading paperback, "Life Behind The Veil" the author's last name is Sasson, that book sheds light on just how widespread this is, and how horrific. Their own families (these women) their father, brother, husband takes it upon himself to "save face" to stone, drown, starve or whatever the offender. Even to show your face with out a veil is a death sentence. I don't think any American woman, even one willing to make a bit of an effort, would survive in this culture for more than a week. These are very old customs, not easily changed. Bringing light on it like you have with this Peter is most certainly a step in the right direction, and just may be the only hope.

Btw, off the subject, a certain very tasty and interesting looking novel came in the mail today, I am just a little upset that I will likely have to wait until after Christmas to delve into it!~

I am with John M. thanks for the article.

Murder for any reason is barbaric and disgusting.

That is SO horrible!

While many of these reports have been bogus, evidently, Juan Cole has given this one some credibility:

Cole's Report


None of this happened during the Baathists sectarian rule and that is why Iraqis blame the continued USA presence (one that is and has been uncalled for all along) as the real problem:


USA Presence Blamed For Iraq Violence

Absolutely awful. Treating another human being that way is inexcusable, regardless the motivation.

Burka n., Your're joking, right?- About men needing women to wear burkas so they don't get all crazed with lust? hahaha

Makeup is a sin? HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!

``Christianity (like America) is perfect and their fanatism is sanctioned by God himself.``


Christofascist Bush said he was told by God to invade Iraq to save the world from WMD. Evidently, God isn't quite as smart as the Bible makes him out to be!

LOL!!!

As a gay man, right wing Islam scares the hell out of me - and there's LOTS of it out there right now. Christianity has gay churches here in the U.S. - how many gay mosques are there in Saudi Arabia. To compare the two religoins in this modern time is ludicrous (Thousands of Christians don't protest in the streets and call for a teacher's head to be chopped off because a Teddy Bear was named Jesus by her students).

And to reduce women to either looking like a whore or wearing a burka is ludicrous.

Of course I'm safer in America.

In America we are now debating gay marriage. Many American businesses offer domestic partner benefits.

In Iran they just debate execution techniques when they catch gay sex.

And yes, there ARE gay Christian churches - along with many liberal churches that welcome gays. The Episcopal Cathedral in my downtown Minneapolis is but one. And there are gay friendly synagogues, too. And gay Buddhists.

Right, Karen! Keep excluding people from Christianity. That way there will be more room in heaven for the likes of you.

Kudos LYNDON,

Yes I believe you are correct and I do encourage you to post your research here as soon as possible.

Alexander

I'm with you KAREN and LUCKKY .. and TONY for the most part.

Although personally I find these murderous atrocities and any degradation of women disgusting and reprehensible, it is simply not the business of the right wing religious fanatics over here to impose their ideologies in Iraq to presumably "right" thew wrong.

A war on terror?? ... A western manner of thought to prod and goad the American public to go along with this "crusade", especially now with Bush, Cheney, Eric Prince, Parsons, Raytheon, Haliburton, Lockheed and all their other strange bedfellows having business interest. This "tactical strategy" is pretty much as dangerous and threatening to civil rights, equity and liberty as anything presumably in practice in the middle east.

It's simply none of our business to either police the world in terms of human rights issues, (especially when utilizing it as a guise for Imperialist take-overs), or spend our tax dollars attempting to forcefully impose or sustain ideology or business interest where they don't belong, all in furtherance of special interests of defense contractors and this presidential administration of criminal enterprise.

Which incidentally is as morally reprehensible as anything else from both the perspective of annihilating existing old world culture, to destabilizing and generating ripples in the fabric of such a society where unforeseen changes occur precipitous of incident(s) as this exact case cited here .. and that's assuming that it wasn't US soldiers in a cover up ... and if it was US soldiers then this is yet more poignant isn't it now?

On a personal scale, this is another reason why I don't even dream of converting others to my own ideals and beliefs as it is not my business to do so ... just as it should not be any other person's or groups quest in life to attempt shake me from Atheism.

Alexander

Aye Burka, that they do, that they do ..

Tony S. -

You hate simply because you're called out, routinely. And you can't answer logically when you are called out. So you hate irrationally. And you have to live with that stain. Yuckkkk.