What Do Mormon's Believe

Thanks for sharing your beliefs. If you don't mind me asking- why did you convert to Mormonism from being raised a Methodist?
I knew your religious beliefs from other conversations we have had- and I wondered why you converted, but figured it wasn't any of my business. But since you wrote an article all about it, I thought I would ask :)

By the way- we just got back from Florida- I added some pictures and two videos of Buckethead at the beach.

Why should anyone debate what you believe in? I'm from where the area where Joseph Smith received the golden plates from the Angel Moroni...Hill Cumorah...in Palmyra, New York...less than half an hour from Rochester; where I live now. Where I grew up is the Joseph Smith and Peter Witmer farms...located in the town of Fayette, New York. Though I am not a Mormon, we are educated in the faith due to its rich history here. I say, as long as it's a good thing; let the people worship as they wish!

Well Said Connie.... (this is Emmett I just noticed Leslie is still logged in, I write more as myself)

Kathy,
I was raised to go to church each sunday and to wear my sunday best. But I had questions that I was not getting answers to. The response was always "God does not want us to know everything" I felt a stong desire to learn more than I was being taught. When my children was born, That desire became stronger.

When I got married, We moved an hour and a half away from the church that I was attending. So I went looking for a new church in our new neighborhood. We went to one church and I knew more about my neighbors when I left than I needed to know. I never went back there.

The Next sunday, I went to another church. We had no money and this church took up three collections during the first hour. I never went back.

I searched until I went to the Mormon church. I went for months before I joined. I was not going to be talked into anything. I searched for myself and found answers to many but not all of my questions.

Nice article, Mom. I've never understood why people insist that Mormons are not Christians. The word "christian" means that you believe in Christ; we, as Mormons, believe in Christ so obviously we are Christians. I didn't know people were saying bad things about the LDS church on here............

Thanks for sharing I always wanted to No what Mormons believed in . I'm a Christian

Victoria- I know that the fact that Romney is a Morman has brought up many discussions about it, but I haven't seen anything negative written about the LDS church. Course, I just read what I want and ignore the rest!

Connie- thanks for answering my question.

I went to seminary and graduated with a MA in Christian Education. I firmly believe in studying the Bible and learning. No, we aren't going to know everything (Jesus even says it is not for us to know when he is coming back), but if a minister isn't going to try to answer a person's questions, he isn't worth much.

MOM? Victoria is Connie your Mother? That is wonderful!!!!

She is a neat lady and Leslie and I have a great love for her...

Anyhow as to the article... and the articles of Faith...

The Articles of Faith
of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

1. We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.

2. We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam's transgression.

3. We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.

4. We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.

5. We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.

6. We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.

7. We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.

8. We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.

9. We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.

10. We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.

11. We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.

12. We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.

13. We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

This list was written first in a letter in the 1800's to a Journalist by the President of the Church of Jesus Christ Of Latter day Saints, Joseph Smith jr and later put into list form for the body of the church.

I know very little about Mormon's... interesting article 8)

Connie, I had a cousin who was very well educated, but he was an atheist. He was a nice person but some of his beliefs would make me cringe.
A few years after his getting out of college, I was informed that he had moved to Utah, married a Mormon girl and had become a Mormon. Isnt that amazing.

Vickey,
that is amazing and wonderful too.

Amen Connie Amen ;o)

I KNOW the Book of Mormon is true...I have read it through and there is NO WAY Joseph Smith wrote it (he just translated it...)...as you read you can tell the different writing styles of these prophets of old in the America's. The Book of Mormon to me is like a journal of these people during the time of Christ or leading up to his birth & resurrection. It is another testament.

I know that Jesus died for me & that each time I am sick, worried, depressed, sinning, etc I am adding onto His pain that he felt in the Garden. He loves us & we need to remember when we are struggling through this life that he has been there...he has struggled. I love Him sooooo much!

The other day we were listening to a talk radio show & there was this caller that felt he knew all about our church by looking things up online....online has the most anti Mormon literature anyone can find! I was getting so angry in the car listening to this ignorant guy & I was telling my husband about how I was mad about it & my boy in the back seat says, "Calm down momma calm down!" haha. Yeah I don't think that guy has ever set foot in our church & cannot make claims if he hasn't fully researched by actually going. ;o) It just really bothers me when people just run their mouths and they don't know anything of what I know to be true. I have been to other churches...my dad grew up Catholic & he had allowed me to visit my friend's church growing up (I think I went twice) I just didn't feel right. I also had another friend that needed to go to another religion (not her own) and she knew that no one else would go with her so she asked me & I was able to go. It was interesting. We went to a Baptist church & it was fun ;o) the people were nice & they actually did a lot of the things we do...They had a Praise Jesus time & that was like our testimony meetings. They also sang some good songs...I will always remember these words haha, "The sun & the stars, Jupiter & Mars ;o). I don't know why I remember that, but I liked it haha. It was catchy I guess ;o).

Like Connie I don't down how other's believe. I think people are free to think as they want & live how they feel best. I wish others would let it be & not be so hasty to judge. :o( It really hurts my heart & I think it would hurt Jesus & God's too. So let's all get along ;o).

(Oh & I know all the bashing of my religion isn't over until all this political stuff is over. It really bothers me that people judge Mitt because of his religion & not for his actual resume ;o).)

Connie I am not Mormon but I have been rankled of late by the things I have been hearing said about the Mormon church. I am glad you posted the Articles of Faith. I had thought of posting them myself. I was really annoyed today by a TV commentator who expressed surprise that one would find a nativity scene in front of a Mormon church. I am afraid it will only get worse during this political season. I will not be voting for Mitt Romney but that has nothing to do with his choice of churches. None of the other candidates have been expected to explain or defend each tenet of their chosen belief and it is unfair to expect that of Mr. Romney.

I think Mitts religion should not even enter into the race for president. I liked his speech though, I listened to it and I am glad that he stands by his beliefs.

Connie I feel like this. The name of any Church will not get us to Heaven. It is the personal relationship with God. Jesus said, on this rock , I build my church, that being the rock of faith. Except through him we cannot get to Heaven.

So if you live in Virginia, my Son lives in Florida and I live in Texas, and we are all going to California. We are all trying to get to the same place,from a different direction. As long as we all follow the laws and go the right paths we will reach our destination.
So you can be Morman, I can be Baptist and my Son can be Methodist and if we have a personal realtionship with Jesus, repent of our sins, and know that we cannot get to the Father except throug him. We will be with him in Heaven one day.

Kay,
People just believe what they hear blindly. If they took the time to research the things they hear, a lot of the rumors would stop. Thanks for your comment.

Wow! I am really impressed with the comments so far. I just thought some of my friends would want to know the truth not the rumors.

Emmett,
Thanks for posting the entire 13 Articles of Faith. I was afraid that if I wrote too much, people would not read what I had to say.

Yes, Victoria is my oldest daughter.

Connie I have a question, and I don't mean it to offend I don't know much about the C.O.L.D.S but I have been told by others that when Smith started teaching his views that he taught that women were somewhat lower beings and that there was a ladder that people climbed on their way to heaven and that women could only go so high whereas men could go all the way is that true? The only reason I ask is because I have heard this from many people.

Thank you so much for giveing the proper information, I did not have any knowledge of the religion, you have educated me.

Vickey,
That is so cool. My sister in law claims to be atheist but I dont believe her. :)

I know some people that are Mormons (there was a family down the street as I was growing up) but had never read the Articles of Faith. I don't totally agree with them all but except for the part about the Book of Mormon in #8, it sounds like many other Christian denominations.

(Connie- thanks for the comments on my pictures. I went through and answered your questions- Buckethead's hair is blonde with a red tint sometimes.)

I am getting really tired- so I will be going to bed now.
This is an interesting conversation. I am glad it has stayed so positive.

Connie, I have tried to stay and read the entire conversation, but am tired, will try to find you tomorrow and read the entirety of the comments.

Wow, this is interesting. I like #9 of the articles the most and I believe God is not finished with us yet. There will always be things he reveals to us in due time, whether thru prophecy or scientific discovery.

I do have one QUESTion..... a commenter mentioned the golden plates. What are they, and where are they now ?

Goodnight Connie. Have a good night.

Jessie,
Women are respected in our church. My husband still opens the door for me when we get in a vehicle. He treats me like a queen.

Woman are equals in our church but men and women have different roles in Heavenly Father's plan. Women do not hold the priesthood nor will they be running the church. That is the Priesthood's job and the Priesthood is made up of worthy men.

Women can get as far as men in the road to heaven.

Ask anything. I am not offended in the least. I am happy to get a lot of the misconceptions out in the open.

It has always been taught that men and women are equals.
I hope that answered your question. If it did not. Please ask more.

Let me tell you, I am not Mormon BUT I live in Orem/Provo......A.K.A Mormonville. ALot of people here do not live their religion. They are Mormon on Sundays and jack mormons everyother day. It makes me sad to think they are .....what is the word? Shoot, I cant think of it.....I had a friend over tonight, who is Mormon, and he agreed....People that are Mormon that do not live here , are more true to themselves and their religion.... We have actually been discriminated against because we are not LDS. Some people have not let their children play with our children because of it. It is really ridiculous. . Where I grew up, people didnt talk about how much money they made or what religion they were. Its a personal thing. I am probably not getting across what I am really attempting to say because I am tired.

It is my bed time too. I will be back tomorrow to answer any questions you have for me. There are other "Mormon's" here too. I am sure together we can answer them all. Have a wonderful night and thanks for all the questions and comments.

Oh gosh Connie, I just read what I wrote. Do I sound a little standoffish? I sure hope not. I thought it sounded like I was mormon-bashing.... I have some wonderful, dear friends that I spend time with. We just respect each's choices.

Thanks for posting this. What I like about the Mormon faith is that it emphasizes taking care of the people within that faith. That differs extremely from what Mitt Romney has done in Massachusetts, basically forcing people to buy health insurance. It seems that literally all the Presidential candidates except Ron Paul, support some kind of "gunpoint" medicine like this. He is the only candidate I would trust with my vote, because he truly believes in freedom for each and every individual -- including freedom of religion. Thanks for your statement, and have a blessed holiday season!

Lori,
I am sorry that this is happening to you and your family. It should not be happening at all. I think I understand what you are saying. They are not practicting what they know to be right. Integrity is knowing what is right and doing what you know is right. If the Bishop knew that they were forbidding their children from playing with yours just because you are not LDS, he would not be happy and I am sure the Lord is not happy with them. We are not perfect though.

I have been to Provo many times. We used to drive out each summer for CES Conference at BYU.

Lori,
No, you did not come off as Mormon bashing at all. I understand your concern. It is not right adn it should never be happening. I am sorry that your family is being treated like that.

I am really tired so I am off to bed. I will answer more tomorrow. I dont want to answer them while I am not allert like now. LOL

Hey Connie I worte a follow up article with some links to articles that give good information... I hope you do not mind thi si not meant to steal your thunder...

For more information on the Church and our Beliefs Click here.

Emmett

Sorry I didn't mention my friend that had to go to another religion it was for a humanities class she was taking in school..sometimes I don't get my points across straight LOL!

I believe Mormons are good people. However, after reading Martha Beck's experience in the Mormon church, as depicted in her book, "Leaving the Saints," I could never go there. Plus we are hearing a lot about the polygamists in some Mormon sects lately, and many exposees by women who have escaped from this kind of Mormonism (not condoned by the official church). However, I don't judge individual Mormans. I just distrust religions that deny women the same rights as men (for instance, only men can be priests or have visions). In some ways, not all that different from the Catholic church.

Alison,

You bring up some good points and these are a real case for looking into a religion before falling into it or falling for it. And yes, deception has crept into the Mormon church as it has most churches these days. We as believers in Jesus Christ, who was never replaced by Joseph Smith, know that Christ IS still the leader of the Church of God. Many in Mormonism believe that Joseph Smith finished the job that Jesus started. I'm afraid this is in error. When Christ died upon the cross and then was resurrected three days later (he told us IT IS FINISHED). These little but subtle changes in God’s word are what is referred to as the little foxes that spoil the vine.

When Joseph got Golden tables instead of stone ones as Moses did, that SEALED it for me. Why did his have to be in GOLD, except that he wanted to be viewed as equal, no, as superior to Moses. Sorry, but I have to follow both my mind and my heart. I am afraid if we fall for this, we will fall for anything.

The scripture (King James version) is very clear on the issue of women.
King James Bible
“There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.”

On a similar note, I have some good friends that are or were Mormans and they were nice people. But I know some athiests who are nice people too.

Lori I just read what you wrote & I know what you are talking about...it is sad that there are people in our church that don't fully understand what their actions can do to someone. I lived in Logan for 5 years & I know what you mean ;o). I worked with people that used to be members, and the main thing they left the church for was because of people. I know I almost have...when I was 12 my dad wasn't going to church & when my mom told me to get ready I said, "Dad isn't going why should I?" My mom just simply stated to me that the church isn't about the people...it is about God & Christ & what they have done for us. People are not perfect and we shouldn't base the religion from them. My mom later told my dad what I said & he has gone to church ever since. It is amazing how the children can turn the hearts of the fathers ;o). Sorry that has happened to you...they will be judged in heaven according to God & when they watch their lives they will realize how rude they really were for not letting their kids play with your kids. :o(

The polygamy isn't our church...it is a FLDS church that isn't our faith...

I believe that women can have personal revelations (actually anyone can...) I know that I have and it was because I was reading my scriptures, having a prayer in my heart at all times, following the 10 commandments, attending church classes etc. When you are doing all that you can you can have that closeness with them. You will know of things that people will wonder how you knew it. (I have an article on how I met my husband & in it I share a story about how I had personal revelations...it is truly amazing!), but I believe that the worthy men in priesthood are the ones that should be running the church.

Oh & I am not offended at all that me are running the church...haha I didn't point that out ;o)

Mormon
Fascinating article! I always wondered how the Mormons felt (or feel) about THe Osmonds
On a different note, I wish you could check out my latest article on trying to track someone down. I am not nosy but it was a question asked of me and the guy is semi-famous, a former President's son-in-law. Where is he? No one seems to know. Wouldnt there be records somewhere? It wasn't long ago.

Hey Connie, great article, hon.

I must admit I am both envious of those able to belong to a religious group like that because of the safety, community, support and simplicity ( this is right this is wrong) but my personality will not allow me to believe in ONE truth only.

I am scared however, not particularly by mormons, but by every religious group that has fundamentalistic beliefs. I do not believe God is possible to put into such fixed frames and since I have studied and teach religious science I know how religious texts and practices have many more explanations that being whispered directly from God to mankind. I fear that we have made God too small. maybe we have had to to be able to understand something that big?

I do not like how some of the beliefs in ortodox versions of Christians, jew or muslims have this very divided belief in the roles of men and women. I know and am perfectly sure that most honest and devoted men do treat their wives and daughters very well and that it can be a huge relief for women not to have to master it al BUT in every religious group I have looked closer at who has such divisions - there are lots of people who use these rules to hold women down. To me to use God to opress someone is very very bad. One example is how some groups try to drive out disobidience demons from their women.

The last thing that I find hard is the dualism - you either believe and do what we say is the right thing and go to heaven or you go to hell. You're either in or you're out - everything is either right or wrong. Life in every aspect has always been multicoloured for me and I have never been able to handle the "either or" thing.
I do believe that it is very good to be "in" especially if you are a new believer and then the worse sinner you were before the more welcome you are. BUT if you struggle when within the situation is very different in some groups and if you want to leave many groups then break all ocntact.

In the end I guess it is all about whether the belivers are decent persons who enterprete the rules lovingly or misuses them.

I am sorry to hear that you feel your beliefs are being attacked and misunderstood. I would fight for your right to believe what you want and be treated decently.

We had a bishop in our old neighborhood that "had" to come visit with us every so often despite the fact that we are not LDS, he sit and gossip with us about the neighbors, I think he enjoyed coming over because he could let his hair down a little . He had also been my husbands teacher in high school. Its because we have never had a bishop that had to come visit before or since. LOL I actually liked being in that ward because they invited us to the neighboorhood block parties.
I think people are seriously misled on the beliefs of the LDS faith. I am glad that you posted this article.
One of my problems is not being able to do certain things on Sundays, I have lived in Utah for 7 years and I still hate it......LOL Sunday is my day to run errands.
Perfect example is today, I am having my daughters birthday party, some kids cant come because its Sunday and they have to stay home. uugghhh!! lol

Alot of the questions I had have been answered...... Much to my parents dismay I know there is a LDS church in our area and I may check it out, much to my husbands dismay also.

Book or Mormons, hmmmm, not heard much of this. I have the KJV HOlY BIBLE. My son in fact wants a Thompson Chain KJV for Christmas. Now he is Pentecostal and I have been visiting his church on and off for a few years now. The people are great there as is the Pastor. He is such a nice man as is the rest of his family.

I forgot, I had better wait, I do love my coffee.

I seem to end up having Saturdays as my sundays. Fridays I have to do neccessary house chores - then on saturday I am so worn out that my body takes the day off. That means that what I needed and planned to do on Saturday have to be done on Sunday. Well I imagine the important thing is to remember to stop and do other things one day a week.

As I grow older, I more and more believe in the Day of Rest. I think we need it for physical and mental health even if putting aside the religious aspect.

LOL on the other hand I do love to be able to buy fresh bread on sundays these days hehehe.

You dn't drink coffee or tea do you?

thank you for sharing, this was interesting

I did not know that there were so many Mormons on this site, but now that I know, it seems that you are the kindest people, you seem to have words to encourage, you care about people. You set a good example for your religion.

I am with Vickey, I was not aware either, the only one I really knew for sure was Connie C., because she is my cousin, but this is good to know.

Connie -
I live in the Salt Lake area but I'm not LDS. Many of my dear friends are. They are as Christian as I am. The people who are saying they won't vote for someone because they are Mormon are nothing less than prejudiced. I have no respect for them. Any congregation that suggests that it's members don't vote for a person simply because the person is Mormon, is also prudiced. I have no respect for that congregation. My God is not prejudiced, so how can I be ? Mormons are as Christian as any other Chritian denomination, period.

Hi,
Thanks for sharing! Here are my thoughts! I think there is something scary sounding about the word Mormon which is what sets people off from it in the first place. Scary for some people does not equal Christianity, which by the way I think is stupid. I have come to the conclusion about the scary sounding word of mormons based on some discussions that I have recently had with people as your religion is getting a lot of attention in the presidential election. I am so glad that you found the church that fits you best, that is great, and in the long run that is all that counts. I'm also glad that you found a religion that puts you closer to God. Keep the faith! Thanks again for sharing!

That was very interesting. Thanks Connie.

Very explanitory! Thanks for sharing!

Pam have you tried Postum? ;o) It has a coffee like flavor ;o)...

Oh & we can drink herbal teas ;o)

Is it the caffeine you cannot have?

Yeah & I know people in the church drink Pepsi & all those kinds of drinks...It has been suggested we refrain from it & people still do it...my hubby is one LOL. I actually have never liked cola so that wasn't a hard one for me...Mountain Dew however was a tough one until I got pregnant with my kids! I got so much acid reflux from it that I hardly get it if at all anymore ;o).

Pam,
No it is not the caffeine. It is other things that is in it. The chuch has never taken an official position D&C 89:9. Are Other Drinks Forbidden by the
Word of Wisdom?
What about cola drinks, kava, some health or sports
drinks, or other drinks containing stimulants? An
official statement by the Church's leaders reads:
"With reference to cola drinks, the Church has never
officially taken a position on this matter, but the
leaders of the Church have advised, and we do nowÿÿÿon sodas.

D&C 89:9. What Does the Phrase "Hot Drinks"
Mean?
Some of the early Brethren explained what was
meant by this phrase. Hyrum Smith, brother of the
Prophet, wrote: "And again, 'hot drinks are not for
the body, or belly;' there are many who wonder what
this can mean; whether it refers to tea, or coffee, or
not. I say it does refer to tea, and coffee." ("The Word
of Wisdom," Times and Seasons, 1 June 1842, p. 800.)
The Prophet Joseph Smith said: "I understand
that some of the people are excusing themselves in
using tea and coffee, because the Lord only said
'hot drinks' in the revelation of the Word of
Wisdom. . . .
"Tea and coffee . . . are what the Lord meant
when He said 'hot drinks.'" (In Joel H. Johnson,
Voice from the Mountains [Salt Lake City: Juvenile
Instructor Office, 1881], p. 12.)
D&C 89:9. Are Other Drinks Forbiddenby the
Word of Wisdom?
What about cola drinks, kava, some health or sports
drinks, or other drinks containing stimulants? An
official statement by the Church's leaders reads:
"With reference to cola drinks, the Church has never
officially taken a position on this matter, but the
leaders of the Church have advised, and we do nowspecifically advise, against the use of any drink
containing harmful habit-forming drugs under
circumstances that would result in acquiring the
habit. Any beverage that contains ingredients
harmful to the body should be avoided." (Priesthood
Bulletin, Feb. 1972, p. 4.)g

Great article. I am familiar with the Morman Faith as I've read a few books about it, because of my own curiosity. Ultimatly, there is only one judge whose opinion matters.

The above quotes are taken from the Official Church Institute Manual for D&C

You can read this in more detail by going to LDS/CES Institute Manual.

The word of wisdom, which tells us what we can eat and drink as well as what is not good for us. This section of the D&C was given to Joseph Smith by the Lord in 1833. This was long before people knew the harm in using tobacco.

Joseph and the other Priesthood were meeting. The priesthood was using tobacco and were spitting it on the floors. Emma (Joseph's wife) had the job of cleaning the meeting room up after the meetings were over. She ask Joseph if he could inquire of the Lord concerning this practice as it was hard to clean up.

Joseph did pray and ask the Lord for guidance. The answer to his prayer is now written as D&C 89

Pam,
Postum is what Roger drinks. He drank coffee until he joined the church. Then he quit cold turkey.

Rosa,
Concerning the question of The Golden Plates

In ancient days in America, the Prophets wrote on plates of medal. The plates had the appearance of gold. There is no evidence of them being pure Gold. These plates were handed down from one generation to the next. Each man who received them were instructed to write on them. These plates are what the Book Of Mormon was translated from.

I hope that answers your question. If it does not, just ask me your questions again.

So where are the plates?

Pam,
We do not drink coffee or tea. We do drink Pure herbal tea.
We also do not use tobacco in any form.

As for women not being able to hold the priesthood.
How is that different from men not being able to give birth to a child?

We each play different roles in life as well as in the gospel.

Women can and do receive revelation.

Men do hold the priesthood but they cannot give themselves a blessing. They can only use the Priesthood to help others. It is impossible to use it to help yourself.

I question whether GOD decided only men could be priests, or MEN decided. God did decide that men could not bear children.

Elders of any faith can be men or women. This is something that is changing a lot across a number of Christian religions. A religion that cannot change is a dead religion.

Thanks for posting this. You are right, some people judge what they don't know or understand. That, and the Mormon faith gets lumped in with some bad apples.

I had a friend who dated a Mormon in high school, so I learned a bit about it. Of the there of us, I was the only one with a car, so I spent a lot of time talking to his family while the "love birds" visited. They weren't too happy about him dating a Catholic, but they were always pleasant and responsive with my questions.

I have learned more since I got into Genealogy. My respect for your traditions and teachings has grown so much.

I feel that having any faith is a good thing. Whatever makes you happy and gets you through the good times and bad is a gift. I have pulled away from my Catholic upbringing, but there are times that I wish that I hadn't. I see people get so much comfort from their faith in times of need. I wish that I had that.

Wow Connie your answers were a lot better than mine ;o) Good work ;o) I like the last one especially!

Thank you for giving us who are not Morman, some insight to the beliefs of your Religion. That was very informative.

Norma,
I am glad that you took the time to read and learn more about what Mormon's really believe. There are many rumors out there about our faith. If you want to know the facts, just ask a Mormon.

I have a 7-part History of the Mormon Church I wrote in 2006 that I will be reposting soon.

Kathryn I have read some of your "history" things & I don't really care for them much. I don't want to be rude, but I don't find your work that helpful ;o).

Wow Dubby I really liked your explanation of that! Thank you for sharing! ;o)

I too enjoyed Dubby's comment. Thanks

Marilee,
Thanks for stopping in.

Yes, that did answer my question about the plates, Connie, thanks. This was a very interesting read, too. I guess I didn't really understand the differences between FLDS and COLDS. I always thought it was just LDS. As far as the polygamists making the church look bad, well, that happens in any religion.... just look at how the Priests committing acts with children has laid a dark spot on the Catholic Church, or Christians attacking Abortion Clinics. There are always bad apples in every religion, culture, race.

Rosa,
I am glad I was able to answer your question. If you have any more questions, just ask.

What rituals does a bride-to-be go through with the older women before the wedding ceremony?

Why do men and woman have to wear the Mormom underwear, and is it true that it designed so that intercourse can take place without undressing?

Vicky,
Mormon can have a civil wedding just like anyone else. No ritual is performed any different. However if the couple desire to get married in the Temple. It is a sacred ceremony. The ceremony consists of covenants made. The men and the women do this.

Momon underwear??? LOL I have never heard them called that before. LOL They ae only worn by members who have made covenants in the Temple.

LOL NO you cannot have intercourse without undressing. LOL

I hope this answers your questions

Tom,
I think every religion is about going to heaven. Dont we all want that?

Mormon's want the same thing as everyone else. We want to go to heaven when we die. However we do believe that there are different degrees of "heaven"

Do you think it is fair for a person who has lived a rightous live all their lives and a person who commented sins until a week before they died, to be in the same area of heaven?

We believe that our position in heaven is earned by liveing each day as rightous as we can.

Picture a mountain in your mind. At the bottom of the mountain is peole who are sinning a lot. As people try harder not to sin, they start the hike up the mountain. Each day that they live more rightous than they did the day before, they take more steps up the mountain.

The mountain has a sign one third of the way up. After you have reached this point and start a bit higher, you will be able to get in a higher place in heaven.

This process continues until you reach the highest point of the mountain.
We all sin so it is impossible for us to be perfect but that is where the atonement of Christ comes in.

Thus the person who lived a rightous life until a week before he died has not made it very far up the mountain. Our status in heaven will depend on our personal hike up the mountain, so to speak.

I hope that explains it

When I was married I went to the temple & there was nothing "done" with any older women LOL! I am not sure what was meant by that question...it was me there with my mom & sister waiting to go into the room that my husband & I were married in (they helped me to get ready/dressed). All I will say is my husband & I held hands the whole time and it was a beautiful ceremony. I think the only thing that didn't happen like the "normal" weddings you would see is I didn't walk down an isle to a wedding march ;o). Then after my hubby & I went to lunch & then went to the reception at the church. I kinda wish I had taken my dad's suggestion of taking his $3000 to elope to a temple & call it good LOL! No the reception was fun & there was dancing & a line like in any wedding reception (oh & lots of food ;o)).

Thanks for the interesting info.

Connie my dear sister, I thank you for this article concerning our
Mormon religion. I stand firm for The Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter-Day Saints. I joined in 2002 and do believe it is the best
thing that has happened to me!! I still have much to learn about
D&C, I am reading the KJV of the Bible ask questions in Church if
there is something I don't fully understand. Thanks again.

Joe our religion is made up of all races....I don't think it had to do with racism...however, it may sound weak, but I don't know how to explain it to you...

Thank you for sharing! I appreciate you taking the time to help open my mind.

There was a time in history when blacks were not allowed to hold the Priesthood. It had nothing to do with racism. It was a commandment from God. When blacks were intoroduced to the Priesthood, it was in 1978 as Joe Mentioned. Here is a bit of history about that account:

The history of black membership is The Church Of JESUS CHRIST Of Latter-Day Saints can be divided between the era from 1830-1978 and the period since then.

Through few in number, blacks have been attracted tothe church since its organization. Early converts (such as Elijah Abel) joined during the 1830's, others such as Jane Manning joined after the Saints moved to Illinois. Among those who came to Utah as pioneers were Green Flake, who drove Brigham Young's wagon into the Salt Lake Valley, and Samuel Chambers, who joined in Virginia as a slave and went west after being freed. Throughout the twentieth century, small numbers of blacks continued to join the Church, such as the Sargent Family of Carolina County, Virginia, who joined in 1906; Len and Mary Hope, who joined in Alabama during the 1920's; Ruffin Bridgeforth, a railroad worker in Utah, converted in 1953, and Helveccio Martins, a black Brazilian buisnessman, baptized in 1972 (he became a General Authority in 1990) These members remained committed to their testimonies and Church activities even though during this period prior to 1978 black members could not hold the Priesthood or participate in Temple Ordinances.

The Reasons for these restrictions have not been revealed. Church leaders and members have explained them in different ways over time. Although blacks were ordained to the Priesthood in 1830's, there is no evidence that Joseph Smith authorized new ordinations in the 1840's and between 1847 and 1852 Church leaders manintained that blacks should be denied the priesthood because of their lineage, According to the Book Of Abraham (Now part of the Pearl Of Great Price) the decendants of Cain were to be denied the priesthood of God (Abr. 1:23- 26) Some Latter Day Saints theorized that blacks would be however, Brigham Young said that the "time will come when they will have the priviledge of all we have and the priviledge of and more" (Brigham Young Papers, Church Archives, Feb. 5, 1852) and increasingly in the 1960's, Presidents of the Church taught that denial of entry to the Priesthood was a current commandment of God, but would not prevent blacks from eventually possessing all Eternal Blessings.

During the civil rights era in the US, denial of the priesthood to blacks drew increasing criticism, culminating in athletic boycotts of Brigham Young University, threatened lawsuits and publiccondemnation of the Church in the late 1960's. When questioned about the Church and blacks, Church officials stated that removal of the priesthood restriction would require a revelation from God - not policy changes by men.

ON June 9, 1978, President Spencer W. Kimball, announced the revelation that all worthy males could hold the priesthood (D&C Declaration 2) Following this official revelation, the Church membership grew from 3,969.000 to 6,440,000.

Because LDS membership do not idenify race, it is impossible to measure accurately the growth of black membership, except in area where people are largely or exclusively of Aftican decent.

Joe,
I was not insulting your intelligence. I am sorry if you thought that. I was just explaining what happened. I am not proud of the fact that Blacks were not permitted the Priesthood and I know many people must be hurt over this but it happened and it is over now.

I do appreciate you giving us an opportunity to share what we know about the revelation of 1978.

I dont think it was a taught principle so to speak. Instead it was just a fact that had to be trusted by faith by us as Latter Day Saints.

I have friends of all colors, sizes and background. I try hard to see that I dont offend others and that comes from my heart not just words from my mouth.

New DVD Explores History, Heritage of
Blacks in the Scriptures


By Kathryn Jenkins


The Deseret News has announced the availability of a new two-DVD set, "Blacks in the Scriptures," produced by Church members Darius Gray and Marvin Perkins.

Gray, who led the Genesis Group for African-American Mormons from 1997 to 2003, and Perkins, who is currently the Public Affairs chair of the Genesis Group, completed years of exhaustive research to come up with a work that clarifies scriptural references to Blacks. In addition, the pair combed through a century and a half of statements by LDS Church leaders and constructed a chronology of the Blacks' relationship with the Church.

The result—produced on two DVDs—faces myths head-on and provides truth regarding the history of Blacks, beginning with their initial appearance in the Bible.

"This project has been an effort of faith and diligence," Gray states. "Our purpose is to correct those misconceptions that have existed in the Church and to help Black Latter-day Saints appreciate their heritage as members not only of the Church, but of God's kingdom since the beginning."

To learn more about or order the dvd's click here.

Blacks and the LDS Priesthood

Darius GrayThis videocast featuring Darius Gray and Margaret Young is a rich presentation exploring the history of Blacks and the priesthood, beginning with the organization of the Church and continuing through the 1978 revelation. Gray and Young combine exhaustive research with statements from Church leaders to examine the facts regarding the priesthood and African-American members of the Church.

In addition to scriptural history, the videocast—done in interview format—provides a partial chronology of Blacks and the priesthood and discusses Joseph Smith's statement on slavery, early Church leader reaction to the baptism and ordination of Elijah Abel, the priesthood ordination of Elijah Abel's lineage, conflicting accounts that led to confusion and misunderstanding, and the actions and attitudes of recent Church leaders—including the time the priesthood ban was almost lifted, and President Gordon B. Hinckley's statement on racism.

To access the videocast, click here.

Joe this is quoted from you..."Joseph Smith was a rabid racist. In 1978, the Mormons decided that the racism was wrong ,but they make no effort to recruit people of other races. That's one reason why I don't think much of the Mormons." and is far from the truth, your not lieing, just miss informed, Jospeh smith adopted into his home africans and he baptized them. And Latter Day Saints were always against slavery,I will look for the relevant historical information.

ALso 1000's of new members are being baptized in many many countrieds people of color, not white and some not African, but many in the Fiji islands and in Africa AND South America where the church continues to grow faster then it grows here in the US...

Glady's Night, a member of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day saints... SPecial musical number at a church function on youtube

What's Been Keeping Gladys Knight Busy?
by Alicia Williams January 12, 2005



Available from DeseretBook.com
Copyright © 2007 Deseret Book
One Voice
by Gladys Knight and The Saints Unified Voices
Copyright © 2007 Deseret Book
Why I Believe
by Various

Somewhere between a happy marriage, three children, eleven grandchildren, a four-year contract at the Flamingo Hotel in Las Vegas, and a unique calling as a missionary, Gladys Knight is finding time to raise money for tsunami relief, visit fans in New York, release a new album, and share the gospel alongside a hundred of her friends. But to fully appreciate the journey, we have to start at the beginning.

Gladys's son Jimmy was the first in her family to become a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. It was kept something of a secret until one day when Jimmy and his sister, Kenya, were sitting next to each other on an airplane. Kenya leaned over and asked Jimmy what he was reading. "The scriptures," he replied. Kenya looked closer and commented that she couldn't remember ever seeing a '1 Nephi' in her scriptures. That conversation eventually led to the second conversion in Gladys's family--Kenya's.

Several years later, on August 11, 1997, Gladys become the newest member of the Church. In the book Why I Believe, Gladys tells of one of her first opportunities to share the gospel. Little did she know that something she wished for at that moment would come to fruition in such a marvelous way.

"During one performance at Disney World . . . the audience was allowed to write down questions for me. During the first part of the show, the director of Disney World pulled several of the questions out of a container and read them while I did my best to answer. Most asked about my career and my hits. But one question went something like this: 'I have been a fan of yours for many years. Yet lately you have had a greater light about you. Could you please share with us how this happened?'

"Now, we had a very mixed audience that night--many different ages, races, and religious backgrounds. Attempting to be diplomatic, I answered something like this: 'I have learned more about God's standards or commandments that, if obeyed, bring greater peace and happiness. It's not enough to just talk about them, as so many people do. I am now striving more than ever to live them.'

Gladys Knight sings at a recent Time Out for Women event.

"Afterward, several other career-oriented questions came up. Then the director said, 'We have two roving microphones in the audience. We'll take just a few more moments for those who would like to ask some more questions.'

"One of the first people to stand up was a tall, beautiful African-American woman sitting near the front. After receiving a microphone she said, 'I am the one who asked about the light you now have. Could you please tell us more specifically how you got that light?'

"The question was direct. So I gave a direct answer: 'I have become a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.' To the surprise of some of my friends watching the show, the audience suddenly burst into applause.

"Another person sitting in a side row stood up and asked, 'If you could have any wish, what would it be?' I said, 'To be a missionary and share the wonderful things I now know are true.' I really meant what I said. I am seeking more and more whenever and wherever I can to share my testimony of the truths revealed in our time by Jesus Christ."
Indeed, Gladys Knight and her choir, the Saints Unified Voices, have taken on a unique missionary work since their debut in 2002. Gladys organized the choir for a number of reasons. Foremost, she says, "to provide an opportunity for people who wouldn't come otherwise to come to an LDS meeting, where they will hear a strong Christ-centered message of the restored gospel and feel the Spirit..." and to help members appreciate and embrace the cultural diversity found among those people coming into the Church. Under the direction of their Stake President, Gladys, husband William McDowell, daughter Kenya Jackson, and moderator Ron Strobelt and his wife, Susan, have actually been set apart as missionaries in their fireside work.


Gladys Knight signs CDs this week in New York.
The traveling group is made up of volunteers, though in addition to their 'musical missionary service', most have full-time professions. Choir members' careers range from stay-at-home mothers, to shoe shiners, to medical doctors. The "SUV Choir," as they affectionately refer to themselves, is comprised of members from Nevada, California, and Utah. Performing in firesides, Gladys and her group treat audiences to a remarkable experience of sound and testimony.

On Tuesday, January 11, 2005, Gladys enjoyed a brief 'vacation' to New York City, where she appeared on Good Morning America as part of ABC's Songs for Tsunami Relief Concert Series. Gladys sang "Best Thing That Ever Happened to Me" and "Did You Know," with accompanist John Fluker.

One Voice, the choir's debut CD, hit Billboard's Gospel Charts in its first week of release, and as of January 20, 2005, had reached #2. Within the first hour of a CD signing held at J & R Records in New York City last week, the album was entirely sold out. Not that chart toppers and long lines of autograph-hopefuls are anything new to this former R&B sensation, but this time Gladys Knight gets to experience it all as a missionary.

It seems the wish made at her appearance in Disney World was granted.

this is where the last quoted comment comes from
http://deseretbook.com/mormon-life/news/story?story_id=5599

oops I see now that I have been posting as if I ma my wife... This is M. Emmett Townsend my gather addy is http://yankeedomains.gather.com in case any wondered...

Emmett,
Thanks for adding such wonderful information. I really do appreciate it. I hope it answers some of the questions that gather member's have.

I have the CD "One Voice" By Gladys Knight. It is a great CD

Alison,
There are two different Faiths with the LDS in the name. The Church Of JESUS CHRIST Of Latter Day Saints (LDS)and the Reorganized Church Of Jesus Christ of Latter Day saints(RLDS).

The RLDS changed their name to "Community Of Christ"

The Church Of JESUS CHRIST Of Latter Day Saints did practive Pologamy in the early years. However, that practice has been illegal for years and a true and faithful LDS would never practice pologamy today. Those who claim to be LDS and practice pologamy are not members of our church.

Alison- just to add to Connie's comment-- if you practice polygamy in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (sometimes referred to as the Mormon church) you are excommunicated. It is 100% unacceptable today to practice polygamy.

Capeach,
Thanks for adding that.

Wow- an interesting and informative article and conversation. Thanks for sharing your beliefs.

Kathy,
Do you have any questions about what we believe in??

I knew Gladys Knight was a member of our church, but I didn't know her story! Thank you Emmett for that! Honestly Connie I am thankful you have done this article because I am even more aware of topics that people have & I am now more prepared to answer their questions....so thanks!

Oh & Joe it isn't in MY history, but my church's maybe...and I know Joseph Smith wasn't a racist ;o). I think what you have brought up Joe is the biggest topic that people have mentioned they have a problem with...(in general) I know I had a friend in WA that had the same question...I appreciate Connie & Emmett for their comments because I feel they have really nailed this topic & I know more.

Yeah we believe in the KJV of the Bible ;o)

Paul,
Alot of people have that misconception. I am glad you took the time to read the truth. We do use the Holy Bible, both Old and New Testaments, King James Version. If you have a king James version bible, it will match the one I use word for word. However we do also use the Book Of Mormon.

Birdee,
Thanks for helping out with getting the word out about our faith. Now at least some people will know the truth instead of the rumors that are flying around.

Why does everyone keep mentioning Mitt Romney in these comments? I didn't see a single sentence in your article about Mitt Romney. Is that all people can say about Mormons now - Mitt Romney?

Victoria... you know why, for some they would not have bothered to read this article except he has been in the news...

=+) yes I am smiling as I pick on you sister...

By ther way this week Leslie and I both have been given callings and now she has been asked to give a talk this Sunday... I am so profoundly grateful for the opportunity to be of service...

Oh I am the Ward Clerk over Membership records and such and Leslie is a teacher for the Relief society...

Mitt Romney did a talk the other night about his religion. He was sorta forced to do it. It was not fair but he did a great job. It seems that with him running for president, the rumors about our faith is really taking on a new approach.

This article was to set some of those rumors to rest by telling the truth.

PS for those who do not know we do not have paid clergy, what was freely given By God we freely serve to give to others...

My bishop (read paster) is a full time Ranch Manager with 300 head of cattle to be responsible for, and yet he takes the time out unpaid to care for our local flock...

your a silly Connie I was waiting here for a response lol

LOL Emmett, I am sorry. I posted your note on your article. I am so sorry. :)

Emmett,
My husband was Branch President for 6 years.

I thought South Park did an excellent, concise, accurate summation of the basis of the Mormon cult. So far, no one has had the courage to correct any of their "errors."