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by Dan H.
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August 9, 2007

Saturn, Not Just A Car Company

November 21, 2007 01:13 AM EST
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You may have learned a little about Saturn in an old science class. What do you remember? I wanted to share a few interesting facts. Saturn is the only planet less dense than water. That means that if you had a super huge ocean, Saturn would actually float on it. It would take 2 days travelling as fast as a spacecraft can go to go from one end of Saturn's rings to the other side. HOWEVER, the rings are only 65 feet deep. In fact, if you came at it completely parallel to the plain of the rings, you'd likely not make out the rings until you got really close.  Lastly, the rings of Saturn are slowly disappearing.
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Comments: 103

Minakshi w. Nov 21, 2007, 1:19am EST
Interesting facts, Dan. We continue to learn more and more about this world each day.
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Helen C.D.~2009 ~. Nov 21, 2007, 1:19am EST
Aren't the rings of Saturn said to be fragments of some of it's moons?
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Jill~Sexy Back~ V. Nov 21, 2007, 1:21am EST
interesting facts Dan! BTW, we own a Saturn car and LOVE LOVE LOVE it!!
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James T. Nov 21, 2007, 1:22am EST
Yep...I wanted to be an astronomer when I was a kid until I found out how much math you needed to take and well, math just isn't my best subject...so I stayed an amatuer and spent many nights out in the cold looking through my telescope at the night sky...my telescope burnt when my house did eight years back now...

Now just trying to look at the stars is a pain since C-5 and C-6 are fused and a titanium plate is holding them fixed in place...old man old body and plenty of scars...

Dan, you ever sit out at night looking at the stars?

:O)
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Helen C.D.~2009 ~. Nov 21, 2007, 1:22am EST
SO once some of the fragments run into each other they kick them out of orbit, thus sending those fragments into outer space...is this true?
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James T. Nov 21, 2007, 1:24am EST
Oh, eventually the rings of Saturn will fall into the planet, that is why they will disappear...like our Moon one day will spin off into space free from its orbit around the earth.

:O)
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Dee - Nature Babe! Nov 21, 2007, 1:25am EST
interesting facts. thanks for sharing.
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Kelly M. Nov 21, 2007, 1:26am EST
That is interesting!
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Helen C.D.~2009 ~. Nov 21, 2007, 1:28am EST
Why would they fall into the planet as opposed to being flung into space?
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Tara T. Nov 21, 2007, 1:28am EST
Fascinating! thanks Dan.
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Val G. Nov 21, 2007, 1:31am EST
The rings are probably disappearing due to global warming. Don't tell anyone though.
: )
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Val G. Nov 21, 2007, 1:32am EST
Just kidding!! Thanks for the information.
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Gary B. Nov 21, 2007, 1:35am EST
Saturn is a very interesting planet indeed. I love astronomy, in fact all my kids could tell you the order of the planets by the time they were three in our home. :) I'm actually being serious for a change. :P
I actually have size map that takes half of my wall at work that shows the solar system and the little dot for earth. I have a sign that reads in big lettering, "Everyone I know lives here!" and in small lettering, "So take care of it". :)
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Dan H. Nov 21, 2007, 1:38am EST
Another thing is that saturn is the ONLY PLACE IN THE UNIVERSE that has had an observed geometric shape like a hexagon. Take a look:

http://lasp.colorado.edu/~bagenal/3720/CLASS19/saturn_npole.jpg
http://drew-krag.blogspot.com/2007/04/mysterious-clues-into-secerets-of-life.html
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Dan H. Nov 21, 2007, 1:38am EST
http://www.space.com/imageoftheday/image_of_day_070328.html
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Joella B. Nov 21, 2007, 2:01am EST
I never knew some of these things about Saturn. Cool! The things I know are usually more related to the Saturn of Roman myth.
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Roberta A. Nov 21, 2007, 2:06am EST
Pretty cool info. I love that kind of stuff. Its so much more interesting to learn this way than in a lecture hall with 200 students and a proff droning on for 1 1/2 hours. UUGH.
TY.
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Debby C. Nov 21, 2007, 3:54am EST
hmmm, I love learning.....today I learned about Saturn...buy what do you mean it " is the ONLY PLACE IN THE UNIVERSE that has had an observed geometric shape like a hexagon"? I mean I will go look but if I get confused with the jargon I expect answers when I get back.
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Donna Hammett-Tooker Nov 21, 2007, 4:30am EST
This old solar system only has another 3 billion years to exist (if our study of collapsing stars hold true) so make sure you learn all you can before it is gone...
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Margaret C. Nov 21, 2007, 4:47am EST
This is brilliant , our eldest used to study the stars at night too , he hasn't the time now :( xx
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Ana S. Nov 21, 2007, 4:57am EST
very interesting! I ahd no idea that the rings were disappearing!
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Randee "The Court Jester of LaLa Land ! ! !" always and forever, I just want to celebrate Nov 21, 2007, 5:03am EST
thanks Dan, being an ex-astrophysics student, I still keep up on all the breaking news when it comes to space...
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Deborah J. Nov 21, 2007, 5:11am EST
Very interesting info - didn't know about the rings either. Thanks.
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Danielle P. Nov 21, 2007, 5:28am EST
Very cool information. I still don't get why the rings are disappearing though...
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Emma L. Nov 21, 2007, 7:01am EST
Interesting info!
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Stephanie B. Nov 21, 2007, 7:43am EST
The rings will fall inward because because they orbit loses a little energy each revolution from the gravitational interactions between the rings and Saturn and likely the moons and the rings. Such a large complex system. They can't fling outward without adding energy somehow into the system.

For our earth, it take considerably more energy to reach "escape velocity" than it does to make orbit.

An orbit, even an elliptical one, has the same amount of energy at all points in its orbit in either "potential energy" or kinetic energy. To understand simply: an object above the ground has "potential energy" whether in free fall, sitting on a chair or hanging by a string. It's the physical energy (equivalent to the heightxacceleration of gravityxmass) needed to lift it where ever it went. When released (pushed off the chair, string broke), gravity will cause it to accelerate until, just as it impacts (assuming we're in a vacuum - i.e. no other forces like air friction), it reaches the equivalent "kinetic energy (1/2mass*velocity^2) It's what makes a pendulum swing - lift the weight up and it will swing. The other forces, air friction, elastic tension in the string, etc. that eventually slow it down. So, for an elliptical orbit, the object moves faster when it's close to Earth and slower at the high point of its orbit, but always the "same" energy. A circular orbit has the same speed all around the orbit.

Actually, to put something into orbit from the ground, you first have to give it an orbital velocity. Depending on the angle, it would be an elliptical orbit, often one that will automatically crash it back into Earth. However, if you give it another kick of speed as the extent of the orbit (i.e. the high point of the orbit) you can "circularize" the orbit so it stays in place. Circular orbits are the most stable as elliptical orbits can readily dip into the atmosphere which slows them down and helps them come back to earth. However, even items in high orbit will, very slowly, decay (unless you're at a LaGrange point but that's a whole other discussion). The closer you are to Earth, the the more often you have to reboost to stay in orbit. Even our moon's orbit is slowly, slowly degrading, largely because of the moon's effects on the earth (tides, etc) are energy losses. Don't worry, though, we have many many millennia yet before it crashes down.

Sorry, I'm not an astrophysicist, but I do have a degree in engineering physics and have worked at NASA for 18 years.
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R o g e r .. Nov 21, 2007, 7:52am EST
The planet sounds like an ok place for certain, but for some reason we haven't had the opportunity visit. There just doesn't seem to be enough hours in the day. I'll have to put it on my 'to do' list.

The last time my rings disappeared they took with them a large divorce settlement. Saturn's getting off easy.
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Stephanie B. Nov 21, 2007, 7:54am EST
I didn't say anything about Saturn. As the king of the titans (and in his Greek incarnation), he slayed his own father to attain the throne and swallowed his own children to keep from having the same fate. But fate, and his wife, who was tired of having him eat her children, conspired with the youngest Zeus (i.e. Jupiter) who did indeed kill him and freed his siblings.

Oh, wait, you meant the planet. Actually, I think you hit most of what I remember except the ridiculous number of natural satellites. There are at least two other planets with rings, though none are as spectacular. A great source of information on the "nine" planets is here: http://seds.lpl.arizona.edu/nineplanets/nineplanets/nineplanets.html
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Karolyn Q. Nov 21, 2007, 7:55am EST
Interesting article.
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Sherrie H. Nov 21, 2007, 7:57am EST
Very interesting. And, WOW, Stephanie.
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F. Jeanette c. Nov 21, 2007, 8:13am EST
will you be our travel agent? 10 4 u
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Joseph E. Scalia, moments before calamity struck... Nov 21, 2007, 8:17am EST
Of course all of this begs the question... Are there rings around Uranus? I guess I spent too many years teaching junior high school kids to resist. Happy Thanksgiving.
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Amy C. Nov 21, 2007, 8:27am EST
Great job!
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shayne trout Nov 21, 2007, 8:40am EST
Very intresting. Thanks for sharing.
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Heidianna "Coriander" T. Nov 21, 2007, 8:51am EST
Wow, those are awesome facts! Thanks for telling us!
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Danielle P. Nov 21, 2007, 8:55am EST
Thanks for answering my question Stephanie. I appreciate it.
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Stephanie B. Nov 21, 2007, 9:04am EST
Joseph Scalia, Uranus does indeed have rings as do Jupiter and Neptune. It seems to be a gas planet thing as are the ridiculous number of moons. Uranus was also the father of Saturn who has the unenviable distinction of doing little more than fathering some children, one of which killed him.

Uranus also has some of the more interesting moons, one with a unique topography and a presumption of being nearly half water ice. It also has the distinction of having moons named for Shakespearean characters instead of the standard greek individuals' names that provide moon names elsewhere (as opposed to the Roman deity names for the planets). Jupiter has two of the most interesting moons I know of.
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Steph-in-NE ..... Nov 21, 2007, 9:13am EST
I like the information very good. I still like the cars atleast they bounce back
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J. G. Weddle Nov 21, 2007, 9:20am EST
I always enjoy hearing astronomical facts. Very interesting article and comments. Thanks Dan.
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Jennifer Oliver Nov 21, 2007, 9:25am EST
Wow, thanks for these fascinating facts! I know my kids would get a kick out of them.

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Carrie O. Nov 21, 2007, 9:34am EST
Sad that the rings are disappearing.
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POPS B. Nov 21, 2007, 9:59am EST
Sorta like a divorce? I enjoy random factlettes.
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Rita j. Nov 21, 2007, 9:59am EST
Interesting
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Lydia (part of the solution) Shelley Nov 21, 2007, 10:00am EST
Wow. Cool! Thanks for sharing!
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Ruth MacGill Nov 21, 2007, 10:19am EST
A good article! The more we know about other planets, the more we can be aware of the fragility of Earth, and how tenuous our place on it.
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arlene (no shame in my game) w. Nov 21, 2007, 10:27am EST
Interesting info. Thanks!
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arlene (no shame in my game) w. Nov 21, 2007, 10:28am EST
It is probably our fault that the rings are disappearing.
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Larry H. Nov 21, 2007, 10:39am EST
Rings disappearing, are they headed for earth, Interesting thanks for sharing..
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Cristina S. Nov 21, 2007, 10:45am EST
interesting information...
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JoAnne D. Nov 21, 2007, 10:49am EST
Thanks for the interesting information, I have'nt thought about Saturn in a very long time.
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CyberGwen ! Nov 21, 2007, 11:01am EST
Why are the rings disappearing??
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The Red Headed Witch of Gather G. Nov 21, 2007, 11:06am EST
That is really weird!
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Jan C. Nov 21, 2007, 11:29am EST
Dan you just have so much interesting trivia ... and Stephanie B. if I ever get to Who wants to be a millionaire - I want you to be one of my phone a friends :)

Thanks guys ... I love learning a little something new every day!
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Stephanie B. Nov 21, 2007, 11:34am EST
No problem, unless the question is about politic or sports. Then, call someone else.
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becky soccer mom x1 p. Nov 21, 2007, 11:47am EST
i didn't know about the disappearing rings.
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Michael Harvey Nov 21, 2007, 12:02pm EST
Too heavy for me, but I welcome the information.
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Cheryl R. Nov 21, 2007, 12:05pm EST
Dan, thank you for an interesting article. They say "you learn something new everyday", on gather we learn a lot more than something.
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Jaime R. Nov 21, 2007, 12:27pm EST
Thanks!
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necee t. Nov 21, 2007, 12:41pm EST
hey Dan... good info... hope you are doing well... how's the Strep??
Happy Turkey day...
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Gloria C. Nov 21, 2007, 1:03pm EST
nice to know that not everything is round :)
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Korey M. Nov 21, 2007, 2:17pm EST
Thanks for the interesting facts.
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Georgiana S. Nov 21, 2007, 2:39pm EST
I have always felt an affinity with saturn, being a Capricorn. My planet has fascinated me since I was about 3! Thanks for mentioning saturn!
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Rosalyn G. Nov 21, 2007, 2:53pm EST
Darn good thing we have YOU to inform us of such things or facts!!!What would we do without your inquiring mind?
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Barbara B. Nov 21, 2007, 2:57pm EST
Very interesting information thank you so much.
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Jessica I. Nov 21, 2007, 4:12pm EST
wow, you learn something new every day.
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Rick C. Nov 21, 2007, 4:46pm EST
SOB - Saturn's loosing it's RINGS!!!!....First they say Pluto's not a planet, Now Saturn's loosing it rings - I loved astronomy when I was a kid - I knew all the planets in order - how many moons they had and so on. Now, just because we've sent probes and have better telescopes - we find more than Saturn has rings...the only planet with the same amount of moons as when I was a kid is Earth and Mars. (well Venus and Mercury also) Mercury doesn't have it so called Twilight zone. Pluto's not a planet and it has a moon or something going around it.(Since Pluto is not a planet anymore who know what they call its friend) What is this solar system coming too.... Don't know if I can take it - loosing its Rings - just too much...wonder if we should send cards?
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*[Heather]* Norwood Nov 21, 2007, 4:57pm EST
interesting facts!
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Jerri H. Nov 21, 2007, 5:10pm EST
Great facts Dan :)
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Stephanie B. Nov 21, 2007, 6:08pm EST
Technically, I'm not sure that Charon around Pluto is a true moon. They kind of revolve around each other (or more accurately) a center of gravity between them. Same sort of thing as a binary star. Charon's smaller but I don't know that we know by exactly how much. The "system" does however have two tiny moons. Not sure if they just wander around Pluto our around both.

I'll stop now, though I had to admit this was fun. I haven't wandered through my Orbital Mechanics since I was in college, umpteen zillion years ago.
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Marty S. Nov 21, 2007, 6:23pm EST
Thanks Dan, I liked space stuff, but the math involved seemed a bit daunting to me. So I persued the liberal Arts, parlaying that into the library, getting involved with computers and being happy.
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blaine d. Nov 21, 2007, 7:15pm EST
thanks, dan happy thanksgiving!!
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Erin P. Nov 21, 2007, 7:57pm EST
Very interesting. Aren't you just the master of random knowledge today!
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Theresa Chaze Nov 21, 2007, 8:09pm EST
good information. thanks.
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P C. Nov 21, 2007, 10:44pm EST
cool.
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K D. Nov 21, 2007, 11:14pm EST
Fascinating information. I wasn't aware about the issues with the rings.
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Beverly T. Nov 22, 2007, 1:37am EST
You can never know too much about our solar system. It's fascinating!

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Sandra T. Nov 22, 2007, 2:02am EST
Wow! I didn't know any of that! Happy Turkey Day!
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Darshana P. Nov 22, 2007, 3:44pm EST
Interesting Dan!!
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Sharon B. Nov 22, 2007, 6:40pm EST
Interesting facts. thanks for the science lesson.
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DIANE D. Nov 22, 2007, 8:31pm EST
too deap 4 me, I only spent 4 years in collage
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Ramya Devi Nov 22, 2007, 11:21pm EST
Thanks for the information.
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Nauman M. Nov 23, 2007, 4:43am EST
Interesting information.
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Roberta G. Nov 23, 2007, 9:34am EST
Interesting stuff. I learned more about Saturn than I've ever known.
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Elsie Duggan Nov 23, 2007, 6:57pm EST
This is even more than I ever wanted to know about Saturn, but I am glad that I am now so well informed, thank you Dan.
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Heather J. Nov 23, 2007, 7:19pm EST
Nice article, please feel free to take a look at my work.
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Nancy O. Nov 24, 2007, 3:29am EST
cool facts , I hope your finals went well !!
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Heather J. Nov 24, 2007, 1:03pm EST
Nice Post, Please Feel Free To Take A Look At My Work As Well.
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Leslie T. Nov 25, 2007, 6:39am EST
Thanks for sharing this, I didn't know any of those things about Saturn.
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Otelia S. Nov 26, 2007, 1:59pm EST
Wow, Ya learn sumthing new everyday!
Thanks
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Sophiya S. Nov 26, 2007, 5:04pm EST
interesting
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Rick Dreamie Dec 2, 2007, 2:38am EST
Thanks for sharing! Feel free to take a look at my stuff as well.
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Jennifer G. Dec 3, 2007, 2:35am EST
awesome facts!
Jupiter was always my favourite planet. Saturn seemed to be very popular, though, what with the rings and all.
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Angela B (There IS a light at the end of the tunnel) Dec 4, 2007, 12:20am EST
Interesting facts, Dan. Do we know why the rings are disappearing?
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golds g. Dec 4, 2007, 5:39pm EST
thanks for sharing! Well I'm trying your way Dan posting the same comment on every photo and sometimes adding a word or two!
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Amy C. Dec 12, 2007, 12:56pm EST
Here to spread some Christmas Cheer!!!!! Merry Christmas!
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Nick H. Dec 12, 2007, 1:48pm EST
Thank you for posting this article. I am just stopping in to give you a 10 and to let you know I appreciate your posting here!

Take care!
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Margaret G. Dec 23, 2007, 8:57pm EST
very interesting.
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Shun P. Apr 4, 2008, 11:22pm EDT
Interesting... Personally, I have almost 300K miles on my Saturn LOL.
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Beth G. Aug 3, 2008, 9:48pm EDT
This was interesting, I didn't realize Saturn wasn't so dense, thanks for sharing Dan!
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Dan H. Aug 8, 2008, 8:25pm EDT
Thanks For Your Thoughts Everyone.
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