First, let me say that I am not picking on, knocking, making fun of, etc., anyone's religious beliefs or right to believe a certain way.
I believe it is your right to believe what you want.. nor not believe in anything.
And I am going against my own rule not to post anything about religion or politics for discussion. But I have some questions I would like to put forth here for clarification. I'm a bit confused. Once I post this I am not going to get into a heated discussion. I just want to hear other's thoughts on this.
ANY REMARKS MADE IN ATTACK OF ANYONE ELSE WILL BE DELETED. I DON'T WANT ANY CRAP SPEWED HERE. I WANT SERIOUS, HONEST DISCUSSION.
I cannot ask my questions to the person I'd really like to because he's a coworker and he's kind of a butt, and I learned very quickly that talking religion with him quickly goes beyond frustration. He's one of "those".
He is Presbyterian and according to his (what He has stated himself) church and his belief system, there are only a few who are chosen by God and only those chosen will get into heaven.
I've read the Bible. I am a Christian. I have formerly been involved in Christian counseling. I have my own beliefs, and I know the scriptures, such as John 3:16 , which says that ALL are capable of being saved and going to heaven.
So, if only a few are chosen, WHO are those few?
The Bible states that the Jews are God's chosen people, so only Jews are going to heaven and the rest of us are condemned no matter what we do? I know he's not Jewish, so that would leave him out, right?
If only a few are chosen, why bother going to church, living a good life, living Christ-like only to get to the end and have them open your envelope at the gate and say 'sorry, you weren't chosen"? If nothing you do is going to get you in Heaven because God didn't point you out at birth and say "I'll take that one" why bother?
If only a few are chosen, then what do you do about your children? How do you love, support, worship and live for a God that may only choose 1 out of three of your children? Or NONE of your children, but all of the children of the nut that lives next door?
"I'm sorry, Son, I'd love to buy you that bicycle, but you aren't one of God's chosen. Billy over there is, though, so I'm going to get HIM the bicycle with the special paint."
Ok, so that's a little silly and extreme, but do you see where my brain is going with this?
Does the Presbyterian faith really think this way? Do they also believe that women are second-class citizens whose sole purpose in life is breeding and servitude to their spouses? Or am I just dealing with an overzealous nut?