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by William Dotani
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October 27, 2006

Unadulterated Anger Rant

November 02, 2007 11:26 AM EDT (Updated: November 02, 2007 12:30 PM EDT)
views: 118 | rating: 9.7/10 (31 votes) | comments: 101

Let me put in a disclaimer here so people don't rush to the mirror and say, 'Is he talking about me?' The people this article is about have all received private letters from me with the subjects I addressed in this rant clearly stated to them. I did not mention the guilt trip reference in my letter, but if this lady posts on this article, I will instantly delete her comments. I remain very offended by her guilt trip try to manipulate me. 

 Does my title give any indication I'm in a sour mood? Well I am and steam is coming out of my ears. No I don't want to play "I'm A Little Tea Pot', although I am short and stout. Yes, I do like stout beer, but don't change the subject. I always like these little talks with myself. It's like a cartharsis ritual that I guess is as good for you as standing on your head. There are a lot of things that have me steamed, but I guess two letters I recently received set me off. I will deal with both of these, then move on to other stuff that boils my blood.

I'll start with a very pleasant letter that commended me for one of my comments. I always like people who agree with me and If I'm ever rich enough to own a silver tea set, I'd certainly employ them as a polisher. Well, this person went on to rant about how one certain person (no, it wasn't Rosie O'Donnell) had sent him a letter complaining about a complaint he had sent in a letter to her. He had left numerous comments on her articles, but she had not even once commented on one of his articles. Some of you might need a hanky for this next part. She told him she was a college student and did not have time to make comments. She said she needed a lot of comments to get points to get a gift book card. I guess we should all see her logic and applaud her for her totally selfish behavior. It certainly makes me want to run to her site and leave a zillion comments. I certainly care more about her getting a book card than causing her the detrimental hardship thinking about anyone other than herself. I think we should all bow to her logic and realize she only has time to read the books she buys with the gift cards she earns on Gather. I'm sure she has time for nothing else.

The other letter really offended me. Before I get to its contents, I'll give you a bit of my background. I love the science of psychology. I am extremely well read on the subject, especially in the fields of child and learning psychology. My friend Dr. Y teaches psychology to Master Degree students. In 1991, when he was writing his Ph.D dissertation, he asked for my assistance. Since then, I have been the main person he goes to edit his academic articles and speeches. I do not like using psychology on people. I'm not a proffesional and I realize that even good intentions can be harmful. I prefer to talk straight and say what I feel from the hip rather than try to use manipulative language. Well, a couple of weeks ago, I wrote a lady a very polite note telling her I don't read invites to read articles sent to my inbox. Her letter back to me told me I had made her cry and more such blah. I wrote back telling her I had been very polite and that I would not apologize for what I believe. She stopped commenting on my articles, which did not bother me. However, I found out that she did bash me to another person, so I went back and reread her letter and my responses. What I found was her trying to use guilt trip psychology, so I would do what she wanted. This greatly offended and infuriated me. I removed her from my group, deleted all of my comments to her articles, deleted all of her comments to my articles and removed all mention of her in my stories. I do not want to be in any way associated with a person who uses guilt trip psychology to manipulate me. It disgusts me to my core.

A lot of people on Gather are here to get points. I think that is fine as long as they don't use or manipulate others. When somebody tells me the points are for some charitable cause, I usually leave at least 5 comments. I am not on Gather to get points. I have never used my points and if I do it will be for gifts for my children. I'm on Gather to grow as a writer. I do my best to write enjoyable stories and poems. I don't just write off the cuff. The average time it takes me to write one page of a story is about 3 hours. Before I wrote the Farmhouse story, I researched corn growing regions in Iowa and ethnicity of the early settlers. It seems like a small detail, but I wanted place names and names of the people to have the proper flavor in the story's scenes. The names are fictional, but are common to that area. I am happy when Gather friends enjoy these stories, but not so happy when so called serious writers gloss over and leave a generic comment, or when they don't read the preceding chapters and show, by their comments that they are just gladhanding me. To me that is a slap in the face. It shows a lack of interest and a lack of respect for what I write. I'd rather these so called serious writers say, I wasn't very intersted in this story, or I think it's garbage rather than give me false praise. I had one person gush with praise over a poem I wrote and tell me it should be published. I wrote her a private thank you note and told her I wasn't ready to get published. She wrote back saying she was just being nice and agreed I wasn't ready. That stung! Why say such insincere words, if you don't mean them? I guess she has a love for baloney sandwiches. I talk straight and the last thing I need or want is fake flattery. I'm a big boy and I can take criticism. Good criticism causes me to feel respect for the person. Fake praise makes me lose respect. I'm staying away for politics in this rant. This is much more personal than usual, but I need to get this off of my chest. I'm in a sour mood.  

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Comments: 101

JoAnne D. Nov 2, 2007, 11:35am EDT
There was a hint of that in the title, I am sorry that you have had a run in. I, as well, hate the guilt trip attitude and unless I am guilty I refuse to accept it. I hope you can cheer up and use some of that phsycology to get over this.
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Joe T. Nov 2, 2007, 11:39am EDT
Your final story is a gut puncher. There is nothing worse than a meaningless compliment. It's good that you got this off of your chest.
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William Dotani Nov 2, 2007, 11:53am EDT
Evil Monkey, Since my rant has absolutely nothing to do with you: zero, nada, zilch, I am totally mystified by your comments. By the way, I already knew you were a girl, or should I say young lady.
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Marge H. Nov 2, 2007, 11:58am EDT
Some days my mind just seems so murky that it's all I can do to comment so that it makes any sense. Other days my mind is clearer. If I have been guilty of sounding insincere in any of my comments I really apologize. Please know that it isn't insincerity, just a mind that won't let me focus.
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Trish A. Nov 2, 2007, 11:59am EDT
This does not seem like writings from a person in a "sour mood" but comments from someone needing to be honest and set down boundaries. I appreciate your solution to someone who started bad mouthing you. You chose not to make a big deal and splash her name around, instead you removed her from your world and went on writing.

I have quit responding to individuals who want and want but don't seem to be there to give, ever. Now I admit I don't always return every comment with a comment but I try to be polite and take the time to read the work of others and learn from it.

As a writer I have found Gather to be helpful. I've found that not everyone wants constructive criticism. So I remain mute. I think it would be helpful if people would post with their articles, photos and videos if they desire suggestions on improving their work.

I admit I appreciate the points. Since we are a one income family with medical expenses the gift cards have been a blessing come gift giving time.

Thank you for your article. It was well written and raised some important points.
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lynn a. Nov 2, 2007, 12:05pm EDT
William, I see this is a true rant. Think I'll dispense with any smart remarks on this. There are some totally self-absorbed people on gather. Luckily there are many more who do care about your writing and you as much as we can on the internet. I have enjoyed your stories and your poems and the interactions I've seen you have with others through the comments and your stories. It has made me laugh so many times. ALso many of your poems are so poignant and relevent to life that they are inspirational or they reflect on an emotional need that we share as humans so it makes it very important to me. I can't imagine going through a week without finding something you have written. It would be devastating. You may joke about your wife or daughter's bad hair day, but there is a whole book behind something that seems so small. You make such good points in much of what you write. Somehow you manage to put in an idea of what common sense is. And then you ad fun and laughter and you honor your friends with your poetry in times of need and sadness. Yes, I read and reread what you write on a very regular basis. I value your work. I am not qualified to speak to the work itself except as how it affects me emotionally, and I think from time to time I mention that. Emotionally I can say with authority you make me laugh or feel empathy for another or understand a truth better or in some way you may tell me something I didn't know already. And I enjoy telling someone when I really liked something that person wrote. So I hope you keep writing. And I sure hope you add to your Farmhouse story. But if you don't I will accept that, because it is your write to end the way you want and it is your story. And really I may be saying I just want to read more of what you write. But I still would like another Farmhouse chapter.
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lynn a. Nov 2, 2007, 12:09pm EDT
I guess it isn't surprising really to have a "gather person thorn in my side" from time to time. We certainly have them off and on in real life. I hope you don't stay angry too long.
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Donald M. Nov 2, 2007, 12:17pm EDT
I think it is good to vent. To let off steam, to say what you mean and mean what you say. I am guilty of just backing out of contraversary.
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Donald M. Nov 2, 2007, 12:26pm EDT
But when someone pushes the last button, I am like you. I dont back off to much longer.
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flit . Nov 2, 2007, 12:26pm EDT
well said!
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William Dotani Nov 2, 2007, 12:33pm EDT
I know Norma, or should I say 'Shiner'.
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William Dotani Nov 2, 2007, 12:34pm EDT
I appreciate all of your comments. Wow, Lynn, you certainly had a lot to say and you said it very well.
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William Dotani Nov 2, 2007, 12:38pm EDT
I have some ideas to continue the Farmhouse story, but it looks more like it would blossom into a novel than just a short story. I still have chapter 7 of OZ to write and that is proving a bit difficult because I need some more good comments to use and everyone has been way too normal recently, except for Wilma. LOL.
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Heather W. Nov 2, 2007, 12:42pm EDT
I agree with the reasonableness you showed in handling this issue. It is frustrating when you try to engage people in real discussions on Gather only to discover they are simply seeking points.

I am often amused that these people seem to have never taken the time to read how the point system works. They leave very brief comments (usually several words to several lines) not understanding that the length of the discussion is part of the calculation. They would often achieve their objective and have a good dialogue if they just took time to compose thoughtful and engaging comments.

Keep up the good writing and hopefully the entire problem will work itself out over time. You will have useful conversations and can easily ignore the junk comments (I gloss over them like spam).
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William Dotani Nov 2, 2007, 1:01pm EDT
The word Spam brings forth a comic memory. I had heard of it, but never tried it. In 1997, two friends (Gary from Hawaii & Noel from The Philippines) planned to come to my home for dinner with their wives. As is customary in Japan, you always bring something for the host. Gary brought a big plate of Spam and both him & Noel told me it was delicious. I took a bite a had to spit it out. They were happy to eat it. I can only think of one other item I've had that tasted worse.
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lynn a. Nov 2, 2007, 1:02pm EDT
Well, William, You can just go ahead and make our day. I have grown to love the chaptered stories, it gives something to anticipate. So if there's Oz 10/11/12 and Farmhouse 23/24/25 I'll just be in heaven. And I can't fuss really. I haven't even gotten one poem I wanted to do done. So off I go.
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lynn a. Nov 2, 2007, 1:04pm EDT
You are so right about Spam. My Daddy tried to get us to eat that all the time. I think now he must have been joking. Once I fixed some for us since I've been grown. We threw it out. I am not one to throw out food, but it had to go.
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William Dotani Nov 2, 2007, 1:16pm EDT
There isn't much I won't at least try. I've had rattlesnake, rabbit and about everything that grows, crawls or swims in the sea that you can imagine. I've been at very elegant dinners where caviar was served. I did not like it. About the only thing I refused to try was squirrel. I actually tried horse sashimi (raw horse meat) once and did not like it. I like sushi very much. I like sea eel in sushi or cooked, but I don't like fresh water eel. I don't like catfish. I don't like pork, but I do like ham and bacon. I have strange taste buds. I would not eat iced monkey brains or dog. I also refuse to eat snails. Some foods really gross me out.
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J. P. Nov 2, 2007, 1:24pm EDT
Well William, it's just that nobody perfect. Btw, I was looking for Wilma's comment to this, she probably can comfort you better than me. Anyway - hope you feel better after the rant.
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necee t. Nov 2, 2007, 1:25pm EDT
hi William... i read every word and i don't think i'm in the loop....whew...
let me know if i am wrong... i think you did a good job ranting...
try to have a nice day :)
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William Dotani Nov 2, 2007, 1:46pm EDT
Now I'm going to have to find a reason to rant about necee. I know, I bet she's one of those people who wears a smiley on her T-shirts, has a smiley hanging from her rear view mirror, has smiley faces on her plates and has an ink stamp with a smiley face and stamps everyone who comes to her home with this stamp and has a large picture of Tom Hanks from the scene in Forrest Gum with the mud splattered smiley face hanging in her living room. Say it ain't so or I'll rant.
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William Dotani Nov 2, 2007, 1:49pm EDT
Julya, Wilma comfort me!? Did you read OZ 6?
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William Dotani Nov 2, 2007, 1:54pm EDT
Jessica, Thank you for your insight. Sometimes the games are fun and sometimes they give me a break from some of the more heavy stories and poems. I'm not immune to feelings when I read really sad stories. Some have made me cry. I'm pretty open to most all types of writing, but I prefer poems and funny stories.
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William Dotani Nov 2, 2007, 1:56pm EDT
I worry that necee will replace he smiley faces with Gargoyles, but that is unlikely unless Tom Hanks plays a Gargoyle.
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William Dotani Nov 2, 2007, 2:06pm EDT
Jessica, In a way I agree with you. There does seem to be a lot more frivolous articles recently. However, there are still a lot of good writers churning out good original stories. Some of my dearest friends on Gather only recently started writing more serious types of works and the quality of some of it has knocked me out. There's a lot of good talent on Gather. Sometimes all a flower needs is a little water to blossom. My sincerest wish is that I may in some way be that water.
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Bonnie S. Nov 2, 2007, 2:07pm EDT
Good rant, I like your writing and read all your chapters. I get a hint there is going to be another chapter : ) I look forward to reading more. I hope you have a great day : )
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William Dotani Nov 2, 2007, 2:08pm EDT
I wrote my wife a poem she loved yesterday. Today she might give me a Norma (shiner) because I haven't done any of my chores yet.
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William Dotani Nov 2, 2007, 2:08pm EDT
Thank you Bonnie. I will unless I don't get my chores done.
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Donna Hammett-Tooker Nov 2, 2007, 2:11pm EDT
See, all of the unaffected people think it is they but the real point of the rant probably has not even read the rant and assumes no responsibility for causing it. Normal. Sorry you have been riled and reviled but my belief is that as long as there are more than 2 people in the world, there will be an us against them mentality. Wonder if Adam and Eve had that problem with the snake as the third wheel on the bicycle?
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Elsie Duggan Nov 2, 2007, 2:19pm EDT
Well hello William, another rant I see, well rant away because your rants always make perfect sense to me. Right now I am sorry to see you have problems with any comments on any of your wonderful writings and poetry, you know, I can't wait to get back on the plane to Oz, or hear the next story of the farmhouse, you are not going to leave us there are you? And I am so happy your wife loved the poem, I have printed it out and am dedicating it privately to me, how do you like those apples, I think it is so beautiful, (really not dedicating it to me have to say that, don't want a rant, lol) but I did print it out, with some of your other stories in case you decide to clean house again. I hope you get enough humorous comments to get us off to Oz again soon , I need a trip, well I have been on one I guess, but Oz is different. Take care William, take a tum, that helps a sour stomach, I don't know what will help a sour mood, except lots of compliments, I know that one, well we know who is having a birthday and when, now don't I? lol, love your Unadulterated Anger Rant, hate to see you when you are really mad. see you around William, take it easy
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William Dotani Nov 2, 2007, 2:24pm EDT
Melinda, I don't want to sound callous, but I have my hands full. I have roughly 100 people I need to respect by making comments on their articles, chores to do, articles I want to write, probably a rough draft coming from Dr. Y to proof this month and of course being with my family. I need a 48 hour clock. When I say I don't watch much TV and very seldom watch a movie, I'm not joking. I don't have the time.
Donna, Obviously one of the people I mentioned has read this. Check the stars.
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William Dotani Nov 2, 2007, 2:38pm EDT
I can't remember the last time I was really angry. I tend to walk away from confrontation and won't let those who want to make my life difficult get near me. I have totally cut off some people because I got sick of their gossip. I mean I told them very straight to their face to get out and stay out of my life. I haven't had to do that in over 10 years. I have 3 very close friends besides my wife and we all have the same type of disposition. If I never make another close friend in real life, it won't bother me. All of my neighbors like me, but I pretty much keep to myself. However, they know if they need help, I'll be there. We chat a lot, but don't go out socially. I don't like bars and about the only places I'll go to socialize are restaurants and the gym. I'm very comfortable with my current lifestyle.
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William Dotani Nov 2, 2007, 2:39pm EDT
Reena, How did you get my photograph? Have you been stalking me?
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Bhawana 'Gather Proud Mom' Nov 2, 2007, 2:41pm EDT
I'm also a little tea pot William

very short and little stout

Loved your expressions.
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Bhawana 'Gather Proud Mom' Nov 2, 2007, 2:47pm EDT
Last month I was very much upset,when I got many bad mails from a person from Gather.I tried to behave like Gandhi ji and remained non-violent but shared my inner feelings with few best friends.
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William Dotani Nov 2, 2007, 2:49pm EDT
Reena, I will visit every single person that has commented, especially you, but please give me some time. I must get off line very soon. I really do need to do my chores or my wife will be angry. I don't want a spillover into the weekend.
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William Dotani Nov 2, 2007, 2:59pm EDT
Why do people try to hurt or manipulate others? I mean, don't they realize this is cruel and their conduct unseemly. I always felt trying to hurt another person was a reflection of your own unhappiness. If your unhappy, the best cure is to show care towards another person. No matter how down you are, a smile and someone telling you thank you always lifts the spirits. Sometimes you have to take stand and fight. It should not be your first, or even second choice, but when you see the other person is only intent on trying to hurt you in some way, or use you, then you need to come out swinging. I understand you very well Bhawana. You are a gentle soul. Hopefully those that trouble you will cease their actions. If not you have the right to respond. To do otherwise, according to Gandhi is cowardly.
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William Dotani Nov 2, 2007, 3:02pm EDT
I must go for now. My son is home and we are going to do chores together.
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Wilma M. Nov 2, 2007, 3:19pm EDT
William, I just arrived to 'comfort' you, as Julya suggested and find you have wandered off to do chores! You have left me, all alone, sitting in front of my computer, lost and sad, blah, blah, blah. Are you feeling guilty yet?

Bummer, I guess not.

Enjoyed your rant as usual. Guess I had better go back to your stories and see if I have been DELETED!
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golds g. Nov 2, 2007, 3:20pm EDT
I read your article twice before I decided to comment I understand your frustration! You have the right to be angry however there is one thing I want to say if you are talking about me I do read articles before I comment and if I say something generic I simply have nothing else to say I do leave thanks you comments and comments that say thank you for sharing becuase I mean them and sometimes I don't have anything else to say as for you commenting on someones article and they not returning it stiop commenting by her. I have been publishing articles for a week saying I need points and that I plan to return the comments and guess what I am it just takes time I have returned some but I have a lot to go I had over 600 comments to return now I have 500 + to go so patience and I know I have been commenting by you I did so today quite a few so I'm off just let me know that your not talking about me becuase people have been laying guilt trips on me lately here on gather and whenI read your article I felt guilty that I hadn't returned all the comments yet!
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Donald M. Nov 2, 2007, 3:22pm EDT
Hope you feel better when you come back William. I loved the way you interacted with us today. It was plesant to see you coming back and talking to us. I have neglected some chores myself. Plus I to can smell french perfume.
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Wilma M. Nov 2, 2007, 3:24pm EDT
Would you send your son over when he gets done with your chores? I have leaves that need raking. I'll give him a few Washington dandelions to bring home to you. I KNOW that would cheer you up.

I try to avoid the articles that are just a blatant point grab. Every so often, I go through my connections list and remove people that have never commented on my stuff.

Now if I only knew WHO it was that started your rant. It's kind of like the farmhouse mystery. Left in the dark, once again!
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William Dotani Nov 2, 2007, 3:50pm EDT
I just finished one chore with my son and my muscles still ache. I'm never going to use that heavy old hedger again. I used it two days ago and I can't remember the last time my muscles ached like this. It's mostly my shoulders and my arms. I can't believe my back doesn't hurt.
My son would come over Wilma, but he has something to do. Not sure what, but I'm sure it's important. Maybe he will play with the new Wii my daughter bought.
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Ann J. Nov 2, 2007, 3:56pm EDT
WHEW !!!!! I love a good rant !!! This was excellent !!!!
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Cristina S. Nov 2, 2007, 4:06pm EDT
Hi William,
wish I could do some chores with my daughter - but she's all grown up and does her own chores nowadays...
That said, please know that I try to read everything you write - It is always good!
I have been away for a while, so seem to have missed a 6 - chapter story... must rush and look it up!
Most mean folks are not worth getting angry about...
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William Dotani Nov 2, 2007, 4:24pm EDT
I think I'm crazy. I just went outside and took about 15 more boxes out of the garage and put them in the attic. This is stuff we were going to put in our yard sale. We can't leave it in the garage during winter.
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Donald M. Nov 2, 2007, 4:50pm EDT
Oh you like to have yard sales too. I hated it when Tracy,s fiance sold his shop. We had garage sales there on one side while he was working in the other. It was so huge. We could just keep adding. It was next to his little home away from home. We would spend the weekends there together.
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Donald M. Nov 2, 2007, 4:52pm EDT
Tracy and I spent more time together in those days than we do now. Two full days and nights every other weekend sitting together at garage sale, cooking and spending evenings in the trailer.
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Sharon R. Nov 2, 2007, 5:02pm EDT
Wonderful rant William! I haven't been on much the last couple days, I think I missed the last chapter of Farmhouse, so I have to go hunt that down...
You have helped me out a couple of times with my poems and I so much appreciate it.
I too, cannot understand why so many intelligent people have to mass email that they have posted another article - if they have my email, obviously we are connected - so obviously if I have the time I will get to their article on my own. If they have mass emailed me I am liable to skip right over it - even if I think I may be interested - just because!!!!
I am going through and cleaning out my group memberships - it is getting overwhelming and I just can't comment on everything every day. Like you I would need at least another 24 hours to do everything.
Don't bother going to my page to comment - I don't have anything recent, and I believe you've already seen it all. I am going to try to do something this weekend... fat chance of that - but I can have my dreams.
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Bhawana 'Gather Proud Mom' Nov 2, 2007, 5:32pm EDT
Today after reading your article and recalling my last month incident,I took out few quotes and have posted .What do you think quotes really helps in solving out the problems.I can feel your mood in your article..

Ugly stuffs should go to the trash..

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Bhawana 'Gather Proud Mom' Nov 2, 2007, 5:33pm EDT
http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474977165645
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Trish A. Nov 2, 2007, 5:46pm EDT
William,

I'm glad you were able to get this out of your system. You add great positive to Gather and sometimes that positive includes speaking to issues.
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Donald M. Nov 2, 2007, 6:08pm EDT
I liked what you said, when you came to my page. That this is the first time you have really interacted. I truly think it would be great if you did it more often. Came back to us on your sight and talked like you have today. Ranting, writing a short story, or even when we comment on your poems, if you so wish. We who are your friends know when to be serious. We also know when we can kick up our heels and be silly until we are delearous. Yes I know I mispelled it.
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William Dotani Nov 2, 2007, 6:08pm EDT
Rose4 You, I quite understand your point. You are not alone in this regard and I certainly wasn't pointing a finger at you or anyone sharing your boat.
Tinch, My wife came in running to see if I was okay. I was laughing so hard at your road kill comment that I was crying. Oh!. That was sweet.
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William Dotani Nov 2, 2007, 6:11pm EDT
I would rant about people who don't own dictionaries, but I fear I'd get a Norma (shiner). I have to go. The boss is home. I must pour her her wine.
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William Dotani Nov 2, 2007, 6:12pm EDT
By the way, please read Marge's reposted story. It is short, but great.
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Donald M. Nov 2, 2007, 6:22pm EDT
William I had dictionaries, but I am way to generous. Someone needed one for this, and another for that. One was going back to get his GED. I was glad to be of help. But it was of no help when they were all never returned. Should I start my own rant, about why I no longer have the things that I need, because I try to be nice and they either tear it up, throw it away or just flat out lose it. At my expense of course.
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Marge H. Nov 2, 2007, 6:34pm EDT
Oh my goodness! You have no idea how much that compliment means to me. :) Thank you William for the plug. Anytime you tell me my writing is great I just want to do a happy dance. Where's Fred when I need him? lol
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Paula Love Nov 2, 2007, 6:46pm EDT
well I am admitting from the get go that I read your article but only the first few comments.
That being said, I hope your day went smoother and your blood pressure went down. I do understand your rant, as many here probably understand it.
I can say that if I leave a comment, I have read the posting. Sometimes I am just in such an excited state to move on to the next article that I don't write much.
William, almost everything I have read from you have been very worthwhile. That is my coment topped with a compliment. :)
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Paula Love Nov 2, 2007, 6:46pm EDT
excuse the typos, I also think faster then I type. lol
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lynn a. Nov 2, 2007, 8:43pm EDT
All right. I've been serious with you all day. Enough. You will find some moon pies at Flickertail's but this time they will have goldenrod flavored cream inside with dandelion licorice drippings and MINT chocolate covered ants sprinkled on the outside. I'm leaving you a bottle of round-up too. Not sure if that is for your head or for the dandelions.
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Bhawana 'Gather Proud Mom' Nov 2, 2007, 9:08pm EDT
Hi William,

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Donald M. Nov 2, 2007, 9:32pm EDT
It is probably bedtime for William, he plays his guitar, goes to sleep. wakes up in the middle of the night. Then he and Elsie walk all over gather, talking while we are all sound asleep.
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lynn a. Nov 2, 2007, 11:46pm EDT
Ditto, Rita.
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Donald M. Nov 3, 2007, 10:29am EDT
Good morning William, You must have slept well last night, Didnt see you walking around gather while I was sleeping. I said good morning to you and Rita several hours ago. Now I will just shut this thing down and do all the necessary disc cleaning and defraging before it shuts down on me. Head it off at the pass. Have a wonderful Saturday. Maybe it will go better for you.
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William Dotani Nov 3, 2007, 12:03pm EDT
I just woke up 20 minutes ago. I'll be watching college football today.
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Donald M. Nov 3, 2007, 12:09pm EDT
That is exactly what you should do. Just put those aching legs up. Sit on your hinney and enjoy a day of leisure.
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Wilma M. Nov 3, 2007, 12:37pm EDT
Had to come back and read the comments. I have encountered the "nice" person that Tinch mentioned.

Way back a while, someone on Gather had written a long tirade about something that had been very upsetting. This person came by and just commented, "nice".

I was commenting a couple people below and wrote, "Nice........ Wish I had thought to say that." The author wrote me later that my remark had cracked her up.
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Wilma M. Nov 3, 2007, 12:38pm EDT
Yet, I can see Glenna's point, too. (Glenna is Roses4you) I look at a lot of pictures and frequently leave comments like, lovely, gorgeous, etc. I try to at least vary my words a bit and would definitely not leave a comment on roadkill!
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William Dotani Nov 3, 2007, 12:50pm EDT
If there's nothing much to add to a photo, I often write in an off the wall remark just in good humor. I understand some, maybe most, like photos, but I personally am not much into the visual arts. My focus in on writing.
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Kelly M. Nov 3, 2007, 12:54pm EDT
Great rant! Amazing how busy one can be in college - I think that was one of the easiest times of my life - 6 kids can't possibly keep you hopping could they? LOL!
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Fred Hose Nov 3, 2007, 2:42pm EDT
Well here I come when everything has settled down.
The funny thing is I don't even know how many points I have. I never go to that page where the total is shown.

Now listen everybody : if anyone knws how I can transfer points to someone else I'll do it.

I see a string of great comments often as a complementary read to the main article. Some times people see thigs in an article that are stunning. When a debate follows its one of the most exalting things that can happen on Gather.

If any one says that's nice I'll challenge him/her to duel at dawn behind the church.
Pistols at 20 paces.

I think that your message got through. Well done. You've done us a service.
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Pepsie J. Nov 3, 2007, 3:02pm EDT
My goodness, "what a tangle web we weave!"

I never,ever ,ever, read anyones "stufff" if they send out mass emails to my inbox. I think it's rude. Of course I read what I want, when i want. People pleading for points, blahhhhh.
I delete at least 15 emails a day without looking at them if they do not have my name or personalized to me. William you are such a honest sort. It is refreshing that you don't give a crap about what others say pertaining to your honesty.
I know to whom you refer,
I did not respond at all to them they are narcicstic poop-heads.

Thank you.
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William Dotani Nov 3, 2007, 3:16pm EDT
My day has been made with this eloquent line. 'I did not respond at all to them they are narcicstic poop-heads.' Thanks Pepsie
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William Dotani Nov 3, 2007, 3:21pm EDT
Well Fred, this article was a catharsis, but also a drain. Some of what I said had a universalism that even applies to me at times. There is no wind in my sails today. I fired my pistol, but am not sure what I hit in the dense fog as my adled brain seeks rest. I'm off the watch college football and just hope my wife will let me have a day with no chores. Some things can wait.
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necee t. Nov 3, 2007, 4:30pm EDT
okay, William... now you've got my attention... how did
you know about my smiley addiction... have you been
peeking in my windows.???? just kidding... yes, i think i t
ry to be a happy person, but, believe me, if i don't
take my pills, all the
smiles are wiped right off my face...
so, there... i'm not always perfect.... hehe
sorry it took so long to get back to you... you've got
so many other fans, i figured i could wait a day...
well, i'm done...
thanks for ranting on Necee... it was cool.....
now, have a crappy day.... :) please don't be upset!!!! haha????
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Marge H. Nov 3, 2007, 5:14pm EDT
Just dropping back in to read the comments. Glad to hear that you are taking it easy today. We all need to do that once in awhile.
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Donald M. Nov 3, 2007, 9:32pm EDT
Goodnight William and everyone. Have a blessed evening. I wont be walking around much longer tonight. Beginning to feel kinda bad.
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golds g. Nov 3, 2007, 10:18pm EDT
I bet you feel a lot better no that your done your rant
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Elsie Duggan Nov 4, 2007, 1:58am EST
William hope you had a good day watching the football games, I have to first, before I forget it say, that we loved Spam, I mean the spam in the can. I know it was invented for the soldiers and servicemen in WW2 and Bill loved it. I have cooked it many ways, when you have kids, and they eat a lot, it is pretty inexpensive and now they have low fat spam. When you have spam on hand, you have a meal, do you think they would hire me, well I have made Spam and eggs, I have put spam with brown sugar and pineapple on it in the oven and made Spamham, when couldn't afford ham, we have had spam diced and cooked with sliced potatoes, onions and green pepper, another variation on the old beef hash, if you have no beef, well If you have Spam in the Can, you will never be without something to eat. I have in my cabinet right now, starting to yearn for Spam. also, watch out about putting up signs on destroying my dandelions, saw that on somebody's site, I will be reseeding, I just need to blow you know, and I can be pretty windy when prompted, I hope this helped your rant today which I found absolutely wonderful, can you tell, I am now officially over my birthday, I went to a sweet sixteen party to night, oh no, never again, band played music so loud I am still vibrating, that doesn't sound right, but you know what I mean, anyway hope you have a good night and that you didn't have too many chores to do. You deserve a day to rest from ranting, and your poem should have earned that from your wife too, Best wishes Bill, and thanks for everything,
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Michael W. Nov 4, 2007, 5:11am EST
I hope all these comments have helped to cheer you up like you helped me. I don't know why people do things, but I hate it when they get mean for no reason. Most people here don't, which is why I like to write, but I let my mom help me with stuff like spelling and grammar, because that makes people mad and mean too. You write well. I can't write so good when I am mad. That why I have mom check, cause she does.
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necee t. Nov 4, 2007, 12:55pm EST
hi William... just wanted to say hello... it is 12.53 pm in florida and i'm just having fun gathering again... have a great day... i really enjoy reading all the comments and before i know it, there's no time left for me...haha
be good...
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Elsie Duggan Nov 4, 2007, 1:48pm EST
Thank you again William,
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Charlotte Babb Maven-Fairy Godmother Nov 4, 2007, 1:57pm EST
Great rant. I appreciate your abiltiy to have a lighter side when the steam flows--when I get that angry i can't even type. WELL DONE.
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William Dotani Nov 4, 2007, 2:17pm EST
Somebody once told me you can find humor in most anything, if you just look for it.
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Marge H. Nov 4, 2007, 4:38pm EST
Just stopped back in to read the comments that I missed. They are often as interesting as the article. This one inspired many supportive and fun ones.
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Donald M. Nov 4, 2007, 5:20pm EST
I have just jumped online for a short time to say Howdy for today. Let you know I havent fallen off the face of the earth. I just went away for this morning. Maybe today.
Tracy and Donald are both doing their own thing, one sleeping, one drawing up blue prints. I got tired of just sitting and watching them.
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Donald M. Nov 4, 2007, 5:22pm EST
So I will drop in and say good afternoon to some of my friends. Let them know I havent forgotten them. Have a good day.
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William Dotani Nov 5, 2007, 1:26am EST
My mom came over. We sat in the kitchen and chewed the fat. I played a song on guitar and sang (Some Enchanted Evening) for my mom and she was impressed. I watched some football and talked to my wife. It was a good relaxing day.
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Elsie Duggan Nov 5, 2007, 1:53am EST
Well I am glad you had a good relaxing day William, I did too, I got up had breakfast, posted something I wrote late last night, took a nap, ate lunch, took a nap, had dinner, took a nap and have been on since about ten thirty after I had dinner, and now feel like taking a nap. I think all my celebrating has caught up with me. I am waiting for you to rant again or get our plane off the ground for Oz , or write another romantic poem so I can get in the mood with Tommy Dorsey, which ever you do, I am all set, be kind to my dandelions William, and thanks for everything.
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Elsie Duggan Nov 5, 2007, 1:54am EST
was it fatty spam? (sorry , couldn't help it) say hi to your wife and Mom,
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Barbara B. Nov 5, 2007, 2:03am EST
William all I need to say is short and sweet, thanks for
the water dear man. You're one of my bestest friends.
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wiaka's just ... curious Nov 5, 2007, 5:02am EST
Wow, discontent on the front lines.

I always had the impression that ranting is in Gathers TOS; I believe silent but deadly could do the chore just as well.

I wonder who make up that phrase, "Silence is Golden".

Blessings
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wiaka's just ... curious Nov 5, 2007, 5:04am EST
Geez this started four days ago and still has life. William you can sure draw them in.

Blessings
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Sheila Deeth Nov 5, 2007, 5:50pm EST
Loved the rant. Loved the conversation. But why did anyone have to mention raking leaves. They're there again. They keep coming back. I'm dreaming leaves, and they're not even pretty-colored leaves - just lots and lots and lots, all brown, all over.