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April 4, 2006 Personal About Politics: Political Pulse of Iowa Update
November 01, 2007 12:32 AM EDT
(Updated: November 03, 2007 11:57 AM EDT)
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Bulletins have been coming in fast and furious this week from various points in Iowa. Larry in Ames has been very prolific in providing information. He told me, “Cheri, in my total un-scientific sampling, here’s what I’ve come up with.” My friend Ron is retired, affluent, and rabidly anti-Bush. He’s supporting Edwards because, for Ron, the biggest issue is the war in Iraq. He likes Richardson a lot for his aggressive approach to withdrawing troops from Iraq and his impressive resume of public service, but Ron doesn’t think the governor from New Mexico can have much impact in the Iowa caucuses. We have two “elderly’ friends Ann and Ted (probably early 80’s) and they’re life long Democrats. Ted is a retired English professor and Ann retired from the state department of transportation. We had dinner with them last week and Ted said he’s for Hillary, but didn’t really have any all-important reason for his support. He just likes her and thinks she’d be a good president. Ann, however, is basically undecided and has narrowed it down to about six candidates, so she admitted to me that she’s probably not much help. In casual conversations at the gym with my friend Ralph, I know he likes Edwards and the second tier candidates a great deal. He’s not necessarily anti-Hillary and he’d enthusiastically vote for her in the general election. He also thinks Richardson would make an excellent VP choice. My friend Dick is by far the most outspoken in his strong dislike for Hillary. He’s certainly not a traditional Democrat, but he’s no Republican either. He likes Richardson because he has the “brains and the experience”. This is from my friend Holly: “Ok. Larry. I’m supporting Hillary for several reasons. I think she has the best chance of winning, I’m excited about finally having a female president in my lifetime, I think she and Bill could restore our standing in world opinion. I’m tired of having an incredibly ignorant and self-righteous prez, I’m concerned about who appoints the next few Supreme Court justices, etc.” “My primary political concerns: Universal health care would be 1, 2 & 3. I have an uninsurable 22 year- old son. This problem isn’t going away. I’m concerned about the war, and the potential for expanding war in the Middle East.” “I’m very concerned about the environment. I’m concerned that big business influences all major decisions in the country to the detriment of all of us. The growing divide between rich and middle class in the U.S. is a huge problem.” Here is a commentary from Sallie, daughter of Ann and Ted (see above). She is 40ish, single and a professional. “Here’s my very superficial, top-of-mind stuff.” • Yes, I will attend my caucus. And screw those damned NY columnists who appear on Sunday morning talk shows saying the Iowa caucus process is a very weird, strange event because you actually have to talk to people who are your neighbors and know how they vote. What an idiot! Take a history class. Democracy is more than anonymously filling in an oval circle. • Issues: GLBT rights, environment, but above all else, leadership. And not cowboy gun-toting bullying. Real leadership. Like doing things that have never been done. Like doing the right thing not only for America but for the world, the earth, and humanity. Like diplomacy. Like crossing the aisle to come up with solutions that are sensible. Like communication skills. I'll tell you more after I finish Lee Iacocca's book, "Where Have All the Leaders Gone?" • Candidates: No republican will get my vote. Any of the Dems will. I like Bill Richardson a lot - I'm not keen on his photo op with a dead something-or-other but he's got great experience and is self-deprecating (he's smart enough to know how to do that, unlike W). Whoever gets him as VP will win. Edwards is losing appeal to me as is Obama. Gaining is Chris Dodd but not likely to grab my vote. Dennis K - I saw him four years ago and wasn't impressed - didn't think his health care plan made much practical sense. If she's (Hillary) not my first choice at caucus, she is the one I will swing to in the end. Smart, connected, respected, articulate, experienced. Finally, Larry concludes with this: “And what about me? I like Richardson a lot and I’d probably support him if the caucuses were immediate. Like Ron, I have my doubts about how much impact he can have in Iowa. That said, I may show up on caucus night, stick my finger to the wind, and support Edwards…..or Obama….or maybe even Hillary.” “P.S. As you might notice, Obama isn’t on anyone’s radar screen and everyone likes Richardson….for something.” Lori checked in from North Central Iowa with this information: “Mitt Romney seems to be gaining support…which is a surprise to me since he is a Mormon and Iowans are as much into religion as politics. Part of Mitt’s appeal is his stance on Illegal immigration. Being in a very ag community we have too many illegals here. And frankly it just makes people angry. Hillary is losing support because of her view on illegals. Giving them amnesty doesn’t fly here.” Bruce and his wife Nancy in Eastern Iowa attended a caucus training session and will be going to see Richardson speak on Friday and will be attending a housewarming for Dodd on Sunday. We’ll get his report next week. And finally, my daughter Shannon in Northwest Iowa sent over an interesting e-mail today. Her in-laws were going to a meeting about Obama. They really like Obama and wanted to know his stand on issues, primarily farming. Shannon was shocked they both liked a Democrat, since they have always supported Republicans. So, that’s the latest under-the-radar chatter from my Iowa sources. Or as Sallie so succinctly said, " screw those damned NY columnists who appear on Sunday morning talk shows.”
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Comments: 52
Another words, it's all your fault.
I suggest your friend take another look at Hillary's immigration proposals. They may be found at http://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/immigration/. The only farmers her stand should irritate are those that are or want to use immigrants as a source of really cheap labor.
Yes, I am a Hillary supporter, but showing that support is almost limied to Gather until our local elections are over.
How did neo-cons get into these comments or is that just your standard Halloween comment? If the latter, I suggest you stop trying to politicize everything. Using what should be a fun day for all that helps children get over their fear of mythological goblins, witches and other dreadful creatures for political purpose is shameful.
k anne, your edit was a hoot.
But, irregardless, ........ (lol lol)
Keep up the good work, Cheri! I still kind of wish I was there.
Kathryn hates Romney and would never be caught saying anything that could be even remotely construed as positive about him.
Oh well. She will learn.
Biden is a good guy, but he just doesn't inspire the way a president has to. Clinton's (I've already won) demeaner is irritating, and I think Obama and Edwards showed that she can't be trusted. Her non-answer reagrding issuing drivers lincenses to illegal immigrants was very telling. I found Richardson's defending Clinton embarassingly obvious because his rantings regarding his foreign policy experience seemed more like a campaign speech for Secretary of State. But Kucinich brought the house down with his "I saw a UFO" answer to Rusert's question regarding Shirley McClains revelation that one night while at her house Kucinich not only saw a UFO, but had reported feeling a psychic or spiritual connection to it. Wow, talk about taking out a perverbial shotgun, aiming at the head of the body called the Kucinich presidential campaign, and pulling the trigger. And as usual the rest of the debators faded into the backdrop.
Interesting article about people from Iowa. I realize that Iowa gets plenty of attention but I'm not convinced that they are representative of the vast array of voters.
She doesn't care what we think anymore than bush does.
She messed up on one, ONE, question...who wouldn't after being lambasted by one man after another after another....she didn't even have time to breath. Since she only had one mis-step they all jumped on that bandwagon ...because that's all they had.....and tried to make it a mountain. I'd say they are all running scared.....I'm guessing she went back to her campaign camp, pissed as all get out and said, "That will never happen again!" she is one tough lady, and can hold her own. She just proved it against 6 men. I'm sure she can hold her own in the world arean as well.....and it won't be cowboy diplomacy either.
and by the way, we all know you are a huge Edwards fan, Devin.
Perhaps he should - he has Federal and State House executive experience which she lacks, he has successfully concluded negotiations in America's interests with hostile foreign Heads of State which she has not, and his negatives are well below forty while hers are between 40 and 50, and even higher among some subgroups. For example, Bill Richardson has an A rating with the NRA, whereas they have already begun to attack Hillary. It was probably the Clinton assault weapons law, and the NRA response to it, that lost the Democrats the majority n 1994. Had the Democrats not lost the majority, there would have been no Clinton impeachment.
Richardson is well known and well liked in the desert Southwest. He is more or less expected to win in Nevada, and he is likely to do so. However, he could win in Iowa. Maybe he should.
Thanks for the report! I'm with your friend, Ralph, I favor Edwards but will gladly vote for Hillary if she is the nominee!
While I'm hoping for an Edwards upset and lead, I don't believe it is going to happen. Hillary may loose support on certain issues and with certain people but she still has the immense machine and the pre committed backing that will probably land her in the race for the general election. Though we try, you cannot please everyone and you have to figure out where the necessary majority lies.
Romney may well gain a little here and I agree that if he runs the primaries in the area he will be tough to beat. I do see him as easier for Hillary to beat than might be McCain or even Thompson. What are your thoughts there?
Oh! That's TOO freekin' funny Devin . . . laughed long and hard on that one my friend! After we bury his aspiration to be President, they'll bury the shovel.
Cheryl:
Thanks so much for the behind the scenes reporting. I read it all . . . and love it all!! The information is not a poll, not a good sample size to indicate trends, and not intended to be. It's a glimpse into a world some people never get to see and I find it quite refreshing. The spirit of these people . . . braving harsh winter snow at times . . . to get together in a home (or other place) where a fire is burning and discuss politics and reach decisions . . . this will always be the spirit I see of the America I grew up knowing. The heartland is named that for a reason baby! Conversations like Joe T. and Don S. have about Hillary . . . that's real politics . . . not hateful, mean-spirited diatribes but an exchange of views . . .
. . . it was an all out "let's get Hillary" format.
Oh, I have NO doubt that is EXACTLY what it was. Predictable though. Taking down the front-runner and hoping for a Dennis "The Green Menace" Kucinich moment for Hillary is only treating her like they would any other front-runner.
"Despite Bush's performance there is a growing divide in our country."
Despite it????? Wow. Maybe the Uniter-in-Chief George "You're either with us or you're against us" Bush is the freekin' CAUSE? Ya think?
"When both sides tire of trying to tell the other side how to live in there homes..."
Both sides? Yeah, I hate when them Progressive Liberals tell me I can't have abortions and I can't get married to a same sex partner and I can't . . . wait a minute . . . they don't say that. Yeah. It's both sides. Whatever. ( *yawn* )
"you cannot please everyone and you have to figure out where the necessary majority lies."
Well spoken James . . . the question that needs to be considered carefully and is being debated seems to be . . . the majority of Democrats . . . or the Majority of voters in the General election?
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
Sunday, I get to go to a housewarming to meet Chris Dodd, as Cheri mentions, and my wife just told me we have been given free tickets to the big Jefferson Jackson Dinner in Des Moines next Sat to hear all the major Democratic candidates.
Obama will be out at the local community college next Tuesday. Is this Iowa...or might it be heaven? ;-)
Bruce, thanks for the continuing updates..they are great! Wow you are going to the Jefferson -Jackson dinner??? That's huge! Ok. Who are your connections??? OH, wait...Nancy was given the tickets.....never mind that explains it!! (grin) I expect a full report on the dinner and all the candidates! Dang...wish I could be there.
People outside of Iowa don't realize how accessible the candidates are in Iowa. Out here in California, it's virtually impossible to see them first hand....it's all about Hollywood and $1,000 a plate dinners. Also...lots of security...unfortunately, keeps the common folk out...that is why I was so excited to get to see Hillary in a small Iowa town. Very accessible.
Would love to have been able to see more of the candidates.
1) Respect Constitutional limits on the Executive
2) Get us out of Iraq IMMEDIATELY - as well as Korea, Kyrgyzstan and the rest of the 130+ countries that we currently occupy at a staggering cost.
3) Work to restore the state to it's proper role in a free society - leaving people alone.
He's the only STATESMAN in a pack of politicians whose only god is power, and the only one who consistently votes against pork, against unconstitutional encroachments by the Federal Levithian, and for protection of the liberty that we Americans are drooling to surrender to would-be tyrants like King George, Hillary, Rudy, Mitt, or whoever.
Dr. Paul, and more importantly the new wave that he is riding, truly may be the only hope for America - at least the America envisioned by the founders, not Moscow on the Potomac.
Everyone owes it to themselves, their families and friends to take a long hard look at Dr. Ron Paul
http://www.ronpaul2008.com
He is also the one who will tend to restoring civil liberties and ending any excuse for torture.
The people of his district support him, especially his patients.
This is a gentle, honest man who does not get rattled when he speaks because he is speaking heart-felt truth, and he is battle tested.
The rudeness of Stephanopoulos to Ron Paul and Ron Paul's grace in the face of it was one of the most impressive and good-natured responses to idiocy I have ever seen. The Dalai Lama may be the source of the idea that anger corrodes the vessel it's in, but Ron Paul was the personification of keeping cool under gross verbal assault.
I have believed our system is so set to reward greed and corruption that no one of Ron Paul's level of integrity can get very far. I hope I am wrong, but I certainly fear for his physical safety if I am wrong. He stands to undermine some powerful sources of horror in this culture.
Cheri, you need to start letting the folks in Iowa know about Sweetpea. I'll e-mail you some posters.
I can see it now.....Hillary and Sweetpea Give 'Um Hell....those boys won't know what hit um. Hillary can give them a verbal full frontal assault, and Sweetpea can give them a full frontal leg assault!
(ok...you need to lay off the politics AND the wine for a bit)
There are libertarians and authoritarians in both parties. Authoritarianism is not unAmerican (many Governors and some Presidents have practiced it), but the US Constitution was adopted in order to have a central government stronger than under the Articles of Confederation but still weaker than the governments of the States. Libertarians feel threated by too much control, authoritarians feel threatened by chaos. When enemies are seen or imagined behind every rock, both freedom and Federalism suffer.
There are, or were, fiscally liberal and fiscally conservative elements in both parties too. Six years of Republican control would not have led to the deficits and debt that they have, were all Republicans fiscally conservative. The latter years of the Clinton Administration would not have led to balanced budgets and reduced debt were he not more fiscally conservative than many Democrats.
Each political party is characterized by its opposition to the other. Uniting against an alien foe is a good, short term tactic for winning party votes, but is not an effective means of winning general elections or running governments. Once the photo-op and sound bites are over, the elected officials of the United States Government must work together to do our business. Past Congresses, in response to public pressure, have built up a body of laws and entitlements that keep a million civil servants busy trying to do good for the constituents. These laws and entitlements require business be conducted by Congress in a manner that does not get it blocked by the White House.
So - vote for the guys in the middle, who will be able to work with the people across the aisle that they will get stuck with. Two thirds of the Senate will not be changed in this election - we will have to deal with that.
Cyrano
You're beginning to sound like my therapist, but she let's me have the wine. Self-medicating.
Excellent and accurate commentary! Just one thing, you spoke of the federal being weaker than the states by the Constitution, and that would imply that a state could override a federal law. Not so. Under the Federalist Papers, the federal government had no such power but when the Constitution was put together, the rights of states became greatly diminished as the founding fathers had decided to have an actual centralized government with rather extensive powers rather than simply having a union of independent states.
Had this been untrue, the nation would have collapsed in 1891!