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by Dave McGill
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January 23, 2006

the contrarian - THE CIRCLE OF GREED (and the coming crisis)

October 31, 2007 12:29 AM EDT (Updated: October 31, 2007 12:33 AM EDT)
views: 247 | rating: 9.5/10 (45 votes) | comments: 109

Every administration has its circle of greed, individuals and companies who - like pigs at the trough - either feed directly off of federal expenditures, or benefit from the policies of the president in power.

Under the George W. Bush administration, however, both the trough and the circle have grown exponentially. The result, today, is a gargantuan machine, which, it is hypothesized here, has been - and is now - driving the nation’s public policy as never before, creating ever more profitable opportunities for those within its circle, to the detriment of most Americans.

The greatest current threat from this behemoth arises out of the circle’s fear that the next election may create an administration controlled by the Democrats, thus potentially dooming the circle dwellers to a mere normal existence. And, when we consider the true scope of the machine, today, in the light of this threat, we have every reason to be concerned - very concerned.

To appreciate the danger, one has to go no further than to consider what it might take to provide a Republican advantage in the ‘08 election, which would then serve to further the interests of those within the circle. The answer is simple, and that answer is a crisis, one that would strike such fear into the minds of the electorate that it would then concentrate its support behind the candidate who would be perceived as being the most capable of dealing with it. If the plan were to succeed, that candidate would, of course, be a Republican.

Much of America believes that the Bush administration has failed the nation by creating historic deficits, by engaging in a needless quagmire in Iraq, by abrogating treaties, by ignoring the threat of global warming, by fostering an economic policy that has caused an orgy of excess in the real estate field without proper regulatory controls, and by conducting a high handed unilateral foreign policy that alienated much of the rest of the world.

Those within the circle of greed, however, have every reason to believe that the president’s track record, in all of these areas, has been right on the money.

As an indication of just what a hero George W. Bush is to those in the “oil patch,” for example, just consider that the price of crude was at a historical low (adjusted for inflation) of $11 per barrel shortly before he ascended to the presidency. Those were cloudy days, indeed, in the patch.

By 9/11/01, the price had risen to $25, at which level the members of OPEC said they could make a reasonable profit. This week, the price is over $90, reaching historic highs, and one can only wonder how many sterling silver Mercedes are being shipped into Saudi Arabia.

To be sure, some of the increase in the price of crude has been due to a greater demand from the emerging economies of China and India. But much of the largesse has gone into bringing very bright, sunny days to the oil patch.

To comprehend even a little of what this has meant, economically, just look at Exxon Mobil. Created from a merger in 1998, that company has seen its annual revenues increase by about $200 billion during the 21st century.  Again, that is a $200 billion increase in its yearly take during the Bush years.  The common stock has gone up 163% since 9/11.   And the company is literally rolling in dough, with $29 billion in cash.

Another obvious example that demonstrates the extensive scope of the monies involved here is Halliburton, a company, incidentally, in which our vice president, Halliburton’s ex-CEO, is alleged to have a material interest. The price of Halliburton’s common stock has increased 257% since our invasion of Iraq.

And, while the income of most Americans is barely keeping ahead of the cost of living, the billionaires are doing quite well within the circle of greed. Our 400 richest fellow citizens, according to Forbes, have seen their net worth increase by over $400 billion in the just the past two years. That represents a one billion dollar average increase per person. Much of this new wealth was generated in the unregulated financial arena, which foisted inappropriate loans on an unsuspecting public.

What all of this is intended to show is that there are hundreds of billions of dollars at stake in this coming election. If you were to ask, what would people do for that kind of money, the answer might well be a resounding “anything.”

So, what kind of crisis would do the trick for these circle dwellers? Well, the obvious one would be an attack on Iran. A cooperative Bush recently said that Iran is developing nuclear bombs and will be able to launch one into the United States by 2015. Cheney has done his part by saying we won’t let that happen. Does it bother anyone, that this seems to be an eerily familiar replay of the “yellowcake” lie that got us into the Iraq mess?

Does it also bother anyone that, if attacked, Iran might retaliate in ways Hussein could only have dreamed of?  Is it of concern that the resulting disruptions might include a Pakistan in turmoil, a Syria inciting problems in Lebanon and the Palestinian territories, a Turkey moving its troops into Iraq, a Russia reacting unpredictably, and gas at the pump in America going to well over $5 per gallon?

This might, of course, concern most of us, but it would likely be just more good news for those within the circle of greed. What we might see as a problem, they might see only as collateral damage.

Incidentally, the administration’s recent war cries have prompted the head of the U.N. nuclear watchdog agency to set the record straight. Monday, it was reported that the chief of the IAEA said he had not seen “any concrete evidence that Iran has a secret nuclear weapons program underway.”

In yesterday’s news reports he amplified his remark, stating that, while he cannot give Iran a pass right now, he has not seen any nuclear material suitable for weaponry, nor has he seen any indication of “an active weaponization program.” He said there is time to clarify his remaining concerns, and Iran is working with him in order to do so.

Another crisis that would serve the purposes of those within the circle of greed would, of course, be a domestic terrorist attack. It is not suggested that one might be internally generated, however.

And, a final area, that seems to have been quietly developing, is the threat of a crisis with Russia. Daniel K. Simes, president of the Nixon Center and publisher of the National Interest, writes in the November/December issue of Foreign Affairs that “U.S.-Russian relations are deteriorating rapidly. Misguided and arrogant U.S. policies since the end of the Cold War have fueled resentment in Russia…”

Most recently, the Bush administration has further stirred the pot by forging ahead with plans to place a missile defense system in the Czech Republic and Poland, ostensibly to protect Europe from an attack by Iran.

Putin has already said he intends to abrogate the Conventional Forces in Europe (CFE) treaty signed by Mikhail Gorbachev in 1990, and now he says that if we go forward with the plans for the missile sites he will also pull out of the Reagan-era Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) treaty.

And, a recent statement by Putin suggested that the cold war has, in fact, already swung back into gear, exhilarating news for those within the circle of greed.

The Russian leader said he was restoring his country’s strategic bomber flights. In a rather ominous sounding announcement, he said: "Today, August 17 (2007) at 00:00 hours, 14 strategic bombers took to the air from seven airfields across the country, along with support and refueling aircraft ... From today such (long range) patrols will be carried out on a regular basis.”

Exactly where the crisis will come from, to preserve the power of those within the circle of greed, is anyone’s guess but, in all likelihood, a crisis will happen.

As a final comment, it should be clearly understood that the fault perceived throughout this article is not that of the Republican Party, nor of the companies in the oil and defense industries, nor of our home grown billionaires, all of whom appear to be performing their functions as they should.

The sole villain in this situation is alleged herein to be our system of what we innocuously call “campaign finance,” which has effectively put the control of our government in the hands of the moneyed interests.

 

Dave McGill, News Correspondent……………….

Dave’s column, “The Contrarian,” generally published every Wednesday, to Gather Essentials: News will sometimes present a contrary view to various aspects of the news, or an alternate take on the conventional wisdom of the day, and will occasionally also appear on other days of the week………….

Dave has been a senior officer of a large eastern insurance company, involved in economic projections and investment strategy, president of a Midwestern mortgage banking company, and a financial consultant in Southern California, serving clients in the field of commercial real estate development…………….

You can find all of Dave’s “The Contrarian” columns at: http://gather.com/thecontrarian...... Keep up with Dave’s other postings and Gather activity by joining his Gather network – just click here: http://atadaskew.gather.com........ You’ll find Dave and other News Correspondents, plus celebrity content and plenty of other News experts at News.gather.com.

 

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Comments: 109

John Knight Oct 31, 2007, 2:05am EDT
I don't think you were supposed to notice, David.
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cecile s. Oct 31, 2007, 2:05am EDT
This is all true, your perceptions are right on. America is in terrible trouble. All we can do is pray for Divine Intervention.
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John Knight Oct 31, 2007, 2:13am EDT
Well, is suppose we could do the prudent thing, and double up on our investments in arms manufacturing. Smart bombs seem a safe bet.
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Felix R. Oct 31, 2007, 2:13am EDT
As usual, David, an excellent article and a very good assessment.
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Tony Close Oct 31, 2007, 2:18am EDT
David, thanks for this article - nicely written and quite informative. Thanks, particularly, for calling our attention to the statements in IAEA Director General ElBaradei´s annual address on Monday (annual address. Clearly Iran and the IAEA have defined a plan of verification intended to address the speculation of their weapon's program. This will be interesting to watch over the coming weeks and months because this (somewhat) independent agency might well prove the administration's claims to be false and help to take the "Iran Crisis" out of the mix. Keeping an eye on IAEA's web page on Iran might be a good idea for all of us.
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Bruce K. Oct 31, 2007, 2:27am EDT
Tony .... speaking of the IAEA ..... do you mean this:
> .... contrary to the decisions of the Security Council, calling
> on Iran to take certain confidence building measures, Iran
> has not suspended its enrichment related activities, and is
> continuing with its construction of the heavy water reactor
> at Arak. This is regrettable.
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Peg Doak Oct 31, 2007, 2:30am EDT
My Dear Brother,
I sometimes cannot come to your site, because you are so right, and I am so angry, that your work feeds my anger. Today I wrote a piece about Buddy maybe needing a neurologist, and the frustration I feel. You have heard me talk about the people who own this shack I am in, and how they lured me into coming here by sayiing that I was the best damn instructor, horse trainer etc. That is until I cleaned up the land, got the fence in and all. suddenly they didn't want me to teach..my income...and have been trying to squeeze me out of here through deprevation.
Today, the brother of the woman who owns the land came by to visit. He is a friend of mine and has no use for her. I am using names now. Anne Mellon Bright. Yes, the Mellon has to due with the Mellon empire. Bright is the name of her wealthy Lawyer, husband who is now considered the head of the Bush campaign in Florida to make sure that the votes did not go into recount. If they tried to put in a recount, Reeve Bright, the lawyer and my slum lord pushed resolving this in supreme court. This would leave the country without a leader for six months. Gore stepped down. I do not know the particulars. I do remember when he was down there and his wife anne was up here, and even though we were not great friends by this time, we still spoke. She told me the morning after the mechanical vote messup, that quote, 'Poor Reeve can't leave Florida until this mess is sorted out.' After talking to Anne's brother today, I felt once again an surge of anger, which I spent, I hope, alot in writing about buddy and also how this administration, even my landowners, effect how my dog gets treatment. Moneys for programs to help disabled and low income are being throttled. HEAP, which was a great program when I began years ago, would help insulate houses, help with oil, electicity or wood, depending on what was used for energy to heat. Now it no longer gives assistance unless you can verify where every cent goes and comes in. IE I spend three hundred dollars plus taking excellant care of a horse that belongs to Anne. That is my rent. Not that I get the benefits of landlord replacing old pipes, electrical outlets that caught fire etc. Friends of mine replaced the roof on my little shack. None of that can I claim as rent. Even Anne says, that I am living here free. Free my f...ing ass. Maine is proud of their latest endeavor. Policing the food stamp program. Policing. Intreresting use of language. With me, they took four months to find a glitch where I didn't have reciepts during a time when I sold a horse because I had no income, as I was waiting upon soc. sec. to grant me disability, which I couldn't get because i had attended smith college. Actually Congressman Michaud and one of his constuent workers Barbara Hayslett brought that process to a close a year before I was due to have the court hearing. Watch Michaud. Right now he is a favourite among thinking mainers. Ok, so I got five thousand dollars in a lump sum, during a three year period when I had no viable income. Of course the money was immediately gone for food, heat, etc. and didn't last a week. I mean my God, my truck was repoed. six days before Christmas that winter. I didn't have a bank account. Yet I was to come up with the records of the money. Also, I bought a truck. a ninety eight silverado which I need and was a wonderful find. I never had to prove what level truck I had, they never took the vin numbers, which they used to do. So the truck was recorded as being a three quarter ton truck instead of half ton, raising the price of value of assets. I was policed off food stamps. sixty nine friggin dollars a month for food. it took them four months to find an illegal, yes, way to get me, but I am at this space and time too damn tired, worried over buddy etc. to fight with them. I plan to visit the office someday when I feel better or buddy is better, and ask them how they sleep at night. This is what has happened to our social services. People who don't understand that progams do not exist anymore, keep hounding me to go find what is not there anymore, to help myself. What I am experiencing is the squeezing of basic needs away from the people, to continue to fund Bushes maniacal need for war. And the irony that I should be on the land of one of his buddys makes me ill. Actually, Reeve Bright doesn't dare speak to me. Even his wife backs that up. I am too quick for him and embarrass him in front of his fan club. Anne won't visit here anymore and works to not come face to face. I only hear through the grape vine that she considers me getting something for nothing, if living in a shack and putting money into it, and caring for her horse that she could care less about, is nothing. Anyway, I have written this in my update today. I wouldlove for you to see it. and I am sorry I don't read more of what you write, because I agree with you and I love the direction you are going in. Being or feeling powerless at this moment even to take care of the basic needs of my animals, my family and myself, leaves me open to an importent rage. MY Dear Big Brother. Keep it up. I know what you are doing even if I havent been around. I love you. lil sis peg
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True American Oct 31, 2007, 2:38am EDT
I have faith in my fellow citizens that they will not buy into any of the B.S. that comes from this administration. And i trust my fellow citizens to make the correct choice for president in 2008, just use common sense and use your gut..
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Bruce K. Oct 31, 2007, 2:42am EDT
David, interesting article. If there is a way to find and fix what is wrong with the current government .... in areas other than the military as well, it is figuring out the relation between business and government.

I'd have to say that blanketly calling it greed does not do justice to these actions. I am currently reading an interesting book called "The Shock Doctrine" by Naomi Klein. Klein starts out with such emotional and illogical rhetoric that I almost lost patience with her book - thankfully I did not.

While I find little use for the pages and pages equating mind control, torture, Chicago Boys economist group, the military, CIA, and so on, I think Klein hits on some very good points to begin discussion about what this country is and how it works, versus how it should or could work.

Today one of the sections I read talked about the inablity for the government to be able to separate both Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney from their financial ties before they took office, indeed even while they were in office or in Rumsfeld's case until he left and it was no longer a todo.

Cheney, Rumsfeld, Bush, Kissinger, these are Republican names, Brown(ie), Clark, and many others were mentioned. Our government is riddled with this in-out revolving door where people join the group of the elite, and then move back and forth from private sector to government and back leaping up the pay levels, into consulting firms.

The conversation needs information, and it cannot all be one-sided. These in many cases are the experts in government. Unlikeable as they may be, and arrogant, and in some cases illegal, as I believe is the case in one other person mentioned in Klein's book and an article she wrote I think a year or so ago ... James Baker III, who after Klein released her article about a conflict of interest between his acting as an American consulting and a lobbyist for Kuwait failed to secure important debt relief for post-invasion Iraq.

The reality of this is really important for people to know about ... not just to villify Baker, Bush or any of these people, because there will just be new people, or their fines will be paid and they will be back and again and again. What some people do not realize is that these guys in many ways are doing constructive things ... certainly making money at the same time, and often enough to be troubling unable to tell right from wrong, but at the scale of things happening in the world, what is more important.

Anyway, that is what I think the discussion should be able. I also think it is worth in some cases indicting and punishing people like Baker. The problem with this is that the information is so convoluated, very hard to objectively evaluate and judge, because at the level this is happening we the people have no familiarity or understanding of.

Just because no one likes being a "mushroom" does not mean that our government would or could function better and differently.
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True American Oct 31, 2007, 2:51am EDT
we can stop this crap by not electing the rich c*nts, look at their past, follow the money. get rid of lobbyists, start throwing some f*ckers in jail already...

quit electing these elitists for crying out loud..
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Tony Close Oct 31, 2007, 2:54am EDT
No Bruce, I was referring to:

"Fourth, while the Agency so far has been unable to verify certain important aspects relevant to the scope and nature of Iran´s nuclear programme, Iran and the Secretariat agreed in August on a work plan for resolving all outstanding verification issues. These verification issues have been at the core of the lack of confidence about the nature of Iran´s programme. Iran´s agreement on such a work plan, with a defined timeline - in response to repeated requests by the Security Council and the Board of Governors - is therefore an important step in the right direction."
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Bruce K. Oct 31, 2007, 3:28am EDT
TA ... we elect these people for the same reason people shop at Wal-Mart or invest in Mutual Funds ... if you want to change things you better learn the system and then figure out how to change it incrementally better in an evolutionary way rather than howling at the moon for someting to tear it down. These people bring us the lives we apparently want to live ... create an alternative that makes sense if you do not like it.
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John Knight Oct 31, 2007, 3:28am EDT
T.A.

OK
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Bruce K. Oct 31, 2007, 3:32am EDT
Tony, you see that as a 3/4 empty of a glass being 1/2 full ... you focus on the hopeful statement but ignore that Iran is moving ahead with enrichment. Combined with Iran's other actions, and their belligerent leader certainly seems unwarranted to be hopeful, unless you think it is a good idea for Iran to develop nuclear weapons.
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John Knight Oct 31, 2007, 3:33am EDT
Bruce,

We heard you the first sixteen thousand times;

"Go back to sleep or work. No need to keep speaking or thinking about all this complicated stuff. Your government will kill the people that hate you and want to enslave you. Go back to sleep or work."

Such a fine American.
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sally r. Oct 31, 2007, 3:47am EDT
Voter apathy abounds. So many think thier vote does not count. Probably enough to change things. Too bad the media channels so many of the people that do vote. Isn't Hillary president yet? I don't suppose she's part of that 'circle of greed'?
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penni d. Oct 31, 2007, 3:58am EDT
I always vote. but the upcoming choices scare me to DEATH!!! i think i am resorting to deep prayer on this one.....
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Tony Close Oct 31, 2007, 5:18am EDT
Bruce, I see it as a potential bit of hope in an otherwise gloomy situation. I'm not suggesting that we blindly trust Iran at this point but, yes, I'm hopeful that this independent agency MIGHT come up with valid, concrete data that can counter what the Bush administration is giving us and help to inform our collective judgment.
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ELLEN B. Oct 31, 2007, 7:25am EDT
It is very hard to think about our "standing " in the rest of the world with all of this going on here. I keep an eye on the comments and attitude's ,of the rest of the world concerning the current dissatisfaction the American public has for it's current administration. Has anyone noticed how far down the poularity "scale" we have fallen? This is another danger for us as far as I am concerned. Because we are no longer appealing in our way of life, and it is sad that other people's do not differentiate when assessing us anymore, as we would, or used to when they had a problem politically, and how many times of late have we been called on , I mean actually called on to help someone, or another country, not just gone there, and I am talking a political crisis, not enviormental, we have lost the appeal as a viable and helpful country in a lot of way's. It is hard to say that , but who goes now to give initial aid? Corporations.

We once had the respect of other nation's, and that is gone now. It leaves us with a gaping hole in our security blanket, and it is evident immediately just by observing the the actions of our "allies" taken Iraq. This. to me is frightening.

Another big threat is the fact that the average American can no longer feel confident that American buisiness will jump in with a plan to pull us out of this downward spiral, of approaching poverty, for the majority of Americans, and with poverty comes the lack of credibility. Most of the voter's who try so hard to believe that their vote counts, have witnessed prices way above their capability to pay, even for a meager exsistence by today's standards. So they seek help, no one listen's, too many rules. All directed to keeping the percentages of each class exactly were they are. When your cries for basic necessaties are ignored, particularly with "the new poor", which is now not so new, the desire to be filled with fervor for a particular candidate is lost, and apathy for the idea of a"hero" to emerge results. So the question of voting "smart " is also not to be counted on. I myself know many, who no longer believe that voting even matters, or will help. This is another internal danger. And it is not just your average lazy voter. Our basic guide-lines for citizenship, that is above board has eroded to a frightening level.

Who would have ever thought our leader's would allow the idea of any of the "the Big Three" automaker's to get to the point of bankruptcy in our lifetimes. Or the loss of so many industries that we are no longer leader's in the manufacturing buisiness? The loss of jobs here is staggering. And it is very detrimental to the economy of John Q> Public. I ask you, who can think straight when the very existence of just a comfortable life, is replaced with "How can I pay my electric or gas bill? How can I feed my family? How will I survive winter?' I feel that the talk shows, and I listen to them frequently,to get a "handle" on the thinking of my fellow Americans, try to promote, the "the winner's" in society, those who followed a dream and made it. The ratio of those who have, is slimmer by the day. Hope for a better life is now in the past tense, for a large part of our country, and the sooner someone really addresses this as truth, and admits there are now those who, in their lifetime, will never get out of the "State of Poverty, that they are in.
And those who think that is joke, need only to travel the bus routes, or visit a food pantry to see the new discouraged. These are voter's, many just a few year's ago were actually giving to these places, and they do not feel the urge to seek out a remedy for the current political situation, hell, some of them actually do not feel one patriotic vibe, not do they think it would help if they were involved. Their pyscholigical state has taken a real beating. They have not gotten to the point of not caring, and will still cluck, cluck over a new tidbit that is controversial, but to dedicate any amount of substantial time to making an intelligent choice, come the election, well, they just do not have the time to make a really informed choice, they are too busy finding an insurance policy for their family, or even their car, to get to work. No one addresses cost for the" average " American, and stay's with it, it is a campaign tactic that no one on the street listen's to anymore. It is sad, but as it is said here, one must learn about the system, well, in the real world of many Americans, one has to re-learn how to survive, to keep what ever level of lifestyle they now feel slipping away, and crime is rampant, mostly because it offers MONEY> Getting a job now is just not cutting it. College graduates waste away in low paying jobs, except for medical or pharmaceutical, another conglomerate that has us by the "wallet", and we HAVE To have it to live now. So the basic paycheck, if one lives reasonably honest just does not cover the basics anymore, so good people go the Charities anymore, have been to one of those just to observe the operations.\? This has also turned into a "Buisiness", and you had best know how to operate in it. Medicaid is horrifying, and you can see the unfair treatment in this tool to help unfortunate individuals.

Our situation is being observed, as were all of Military actions, and a lot of our procedures for it, by many. This coupled with exactly what David has voiced, has perpetuated the "Head in the Sand" attitude, and it is not because of stupidity, look around, it is because of Survival. I pray also, and I could really elaborate on the disabled gig, because I am, but it is not something I want to get into now. Politicians for the good say that they want to bring government back to the people, it is my humble observation that feels we someone who will bring the people back to government, this is where the next threat is, and it is in all the street's of America, and it is a really important "Infrastructure" that has severly weakened, just as we cannot believe the Administration, we can no longer rely on the "soul" of a lot of fellow American's to give a damn, many have "sold"it to survive, and they cannot "buy it back. Ellen B
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ELLEN B. Oct 31, 2007, 7:36am EDT
By the way, I appreciate all the comments you all have made, you are all very intelligent. I respect that, but Tony's comment about trusting Iran, has made me think, those of who care, discuss and try, need to figure out how to trust a very weary America, who has taken a "type" of beating of their own, from listening to what they believe is the new "Nam", and hearing the stats of our lost sons and daughter's, to the loss of lifestyle, and the obsevance of having little say in anything, just their perfomance, robotic for many on a daily basis, and little impact, due to just what David has brought to light, the "Circle of Greed," and it is everywhere, not just in government, however,it must be said that some of the evident tactics are really attempts to survive out here, it is hard, period. Just check the slow but steady rate changes, or policy changes in just your own insurance policies, or local hospital administrative rules. Each one using cost as a reason for the unbearable fees. How long can we tolerate that? Has anyone addressed our costs? NO> Ellen B
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ELLEN B. Oct 31, 2007, 7:46am EDT
Sorry, in my first comment, it should have read, "just look at the actions TAKEN in Iraq by our allies, I was getting ahead of my typing. Ellen B
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Gerry Wass Oct 31, 2007, 7:46am EDT
I appreciate your viewpoint, David, even though it be ominous and hard to read. I don't have enough information to know if you're right, but I'm afraid that the track record all leads to this. I'm angry that our country has turned into a place where such secrets can be kept and I hope that someone on the inside will be brave enough to let secret crisis plans out before they are manifested into something which this short-sighted group will not be able to manage once it begins. California wildfire--no problem, compared to this.
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Ron (in complete sheeple overload) W. Oct 31, 2007, 9:58am EDT
Iran will be attacked, Cheney already decided that, as I have said about a thousand times. Welcome to the fold of the worriers, God forbid they have to become the warriors.
True, I have no such faith in the American People. They will be scared out of their wits, just as they have been for most of the last five or six years, and though no one likes him, they will rally behind those they think are providing for their security, and here we go again. If we get an election, the field is full of those that will just perpetuate this mess. Clinton is Bush light, the only decent candidates are already starting to be marginalized with massive press propaganda. 400 dollar haircuts? That's a campaign issue? These are all millionaires, all part of the plan, and the ones that aren't will be swiftboated out of existence, unless...............
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Charlotte Babb Maven-Fairy Godmother Oct 31, 2007, 10:16am EDT
AS the current administration proved conclusively last time, Stalin was right. It matters who countst the votes. Many crises have been manufactured since the Shadow circle has more firmly entrenched it's power. Merely having a change of party will not make that much difference for the shadow government that is not elected nor officially part of the system. Things will get worse unless a lot of folks find some shiftign of energy, scrambling of current energy vortexes and taking our own responsibility back.

and it may be too late at that.
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Karl Leuba Oct 31, 2007, 10:17am EDT
Once again David you have hit the issue near the heart. The basic concept of world domination is based on greed for the resources if the world. Like three year old kids in daycare we want all the toys. The issue is will we kill to get them.
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Kathy W. Oct 31, 2007, 10:18am EDT
Burka, I'm with you on waiting for God to intervene. I guess I'll sit home and light candles and read the books they tell me to read, and watch the news they buy and sell to us, and ignore intelligent information from creditable sources, and not mind that our standing in the global community has dropped like 1000%...and that diplomacy has gone right out the window with personal freedom, personal choices, while my front and back doors are being violated with wiretaps and internet intercepts. Yeah, and by the very people who seal their own voting and service and school records so the masses of the "WALMART SHOPPERS!!!!!" walk to the store cause they can't afford gas.
And they better not fall down on bad infrastructure or drive on bridges, cause they are in the growing percentage of citizens who DON'T HAVE INSURANCE!"
Let us pray...
Wilka
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Kathy W. Oct 31, 2007, 10:21am EDT
under Chimpy and Darth Vader !!!!!

LOL those are new ones for me!
Wilka
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Kathy W. Oct 31, 2007, 10:41am EDT
David, sorry about the rant. I get fired up when the folks want to wait for someone else to clean up the messes...so, my apologies.

Good article here...and it attracted some very valid comments. BTW, also sincerely appreciated your posting on "The Toll Count" you last posted.
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Carolyn G. Oct 31, 2007, 10:55am EDT
David: I am very concerned about this as well, but you did miss something. While Bush et al are busy trying to find ways to stay in power and thus fund their particular circle of greed and corruption the Democrats are waiting in the wings with their own circle. Maybe in the past there was a difference between these two groups of power hungry greed mongers, but that's no longer true. Neither one of these groups gives a tinker's dam for the voting public or for people in general who reside outside their elite circles.

Mr. Bush sees the health care of uninsured children as a horrifying and unacceptable expense, but sees endless lines of flag-draped coffins as perfectly acceptable. I'm surprised he hasn't tried to get a bill passed that would provide needed medical care for these children if their parents would indenture them to the military when they came of age in return. He will send tens of millions of dollars on pallets to Iraq and have it vanish without a trace and it doesn't bother him in the slightest.

What concerns me more than anything is that this time the basis is in place for what you discuss. There are camps already built all over the country. They are there to hold people such as you and I in the event Mr. Bush declares martial law. He is so confident of our passivity he hasn't even tried to hide them and Homeland Security has admitted they are there waiting. Earlier this year our gutless congress voted Mr. Bush the authority to use those camps against our own citizens. This isn't some cocked-hat conspiracy theory, and that is what bothers me the most. If he's so cocky that he doesn't even try to hide these camps or their purpose, what makes anyone think he won't try to use them?

I am hoping that won't happen. If I thought prayers did the slightest bit of good, I would be praying. It's going to be a very long 12 months.
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Carolyn G. Oct 31, 2007, 11:03am EDT
P.S. I jokingly said to my daughter the other day that these domestic concentration camps were probably being built by Halliburton. I was just kidding. *sigh* Thing is I checked. Guess who is building them?
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Col. George W. Oct 31, 2007, 11:34am EDT
It is the Big Brother mentality that causes most of our problems. We do not have the right nor the obligation to Police the entire world. We do not have the right nor a mandate to force every nation in the world to have our system of government. We have no business in interfering in the affairs of other nations.

The only way I can think of to avoid a crisis created by the current administration is to by pass the President and flood each and every Senitor and member of the house with letters advocating removing from the office of President the powers they gave him to declare war, or rather use military force. We need the Congress to take back the powers the Constitution gives to them.

We need to use OUR power to keep Congress atune to the wishes of the nation, not to the wishes of the rich and greedy. Congress needs to remember who put them in office and who can fire them.

I see that as the only way to prevent the crisis in the next 12 months. After that we need to elect a leader that does not accept PAC or LOBBY money nor CORPORATE donations. In other words Just Do Not Vote for the candidates who do. Vote for the one who has the RECORD of stand up for what is right not by what they SAY they would do but by what they have Done.
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Ron (in complete sheeple overload) W. Oct 31, 2007, 12:14pm EDT
Excpt the congress is part of the problem not the solution. Impeachment is still not on the table, after more and more proof that it should be. Why? Because it was never meant to be on the table in the first place, and not because they want to avoid conflict. They ARE part of it, in the case of democratic leadership, at the least.
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Don(time to open them FEMA camps) S. Oct 31, 2007, 12:35pm EDT
Elect John Edwards and "fire" the entire congress.

Then DEMAND public financing for all political campaigns.

I may be dreaming , but I hope not.
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Ramzy S. Oct 31, 2007, 12:46pm EDT
Fear-inducing.
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Sheila Deeth Oct 31, 2007, 12:49pm EDT
One dollar one vote? But hoping not.
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Kevin Duffy Crovo Oct 31, 2007, 12:58pm EDT
I'm voting for Bill Belichick for President in 2008. Think about it.
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Carol Lloyd Oct 31, 2007, 2:04pm EDT
I think the American people at least I hope the American people wont buy into the mushroom cloud scenario this time. But with that said only this administration could have brought about a partial resumption of a cold war. And maybe thats not a bad idea. I can say with some certainty that I felt safer during the cold war than I do now. There was a mutual understanding between the two super powers of what the consequences would be. After watching how we have behaved being the big kid on the block I think perhaps a balance is necessary as we have behaved badly. No one talks to us anymore except for the UK and they are backing off a bit too. Seems to me Saddam for all his faults and actions represented a balance of power in his region of the middle east. With Saddam removed that balance is no longer there and void must be filled. I cant understand why this administration cant understand the Islam and a western form of democracy are not compatible. We say you have freedom of choice ha, as long as they choose those we approve of. Well thats not freedom of choice. The Bush administration has knowingly opened a Pandora's box and we will pay price for their actions.
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Carol Lloyd Oct 31, 2007, 2:06pm EDT
Let me add this. to be honest I fear a mushroom cloud may come from us and no one else.
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Carol Lloyd Oct 31, 2007, 2:19pm EDT
Ron above and beyond impeachment criminal charges should be considered by a federal grand jury.
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Charles Temm JR Oct 31, 2007, 2:20pm EDT
every election someone starts this up....the party out thinks the party in will do something, anything to stay in office. So far all the conspiratists have batted zero. Neither party of our oh so fine Duoply has done any such thing (except depending on your definition-Nixon/Watergate)

basic premise is the same too, each party in power has favored certain industries/individuals...somehow the republic keeps on breathing when the turnover comes.

more the danger than business/industry to our way of life is the sad fact far too many Americans expect each election cycle to GIVE them something, that is far more dangerous than companies trying to get tax breaks the next party will toss out unless they are bribed too...
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John P. Oct 31, 2007, 2:23pm EDT
I love Spartan's bag on Buffett's only paying 17% income tax. That 17%, in dollars, was probably 3x or 4x all his employees' income taxes combined.

David, take it easy, Dr. Strangelove. Your article was intelligent, but hit me as written by someone who is upset with himself that he didn't buy XOM and go long oil futures when GWB was elected. And all the comments sound similar, written by those who wish they had hopped in the "circle".
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Carolion Grailbear Oct 31, 2007, 2:43pm EDT
As I've said before, the corporatocracy's plans were made years ago - the spoils have already been percentaged out - they're just jockeying into position to act it all out.
Who can stop this?
Burka's right - it's God's deal - BUT - part of that deal is for us to participate in Godmind, using our Will-To-Good and our Imaginal powers, to SEE the healings, transformations, re-balancings that will then manifest.

Five minutes a day spent visualizing the needed healings - and/or using the power of the Word - what does it cost? How can anyone lose, just trying, for 5 minutes, to put good energy to work in the service of all beings, the planet, and humanity?

THINK:
50% women in office worldwide
THINK:
Peace councils sprouting up in every region, then every city and town, worldwide
THINK:
Military unions, giving the ordinary-joe soldier a voice, instead of keeping our non-coms in paid slavery to military/corporate bosses
THINK:
The U.S. no longer supplying cluster bombs and other sh*t to countries to use irresponsibly (Israel's unexploded cluster bombs are killing and maiming ordinary citizens AND U.N. cleanup teams in Lebanon, and Israel will not give out information about where these bombs were dropped. How irresponsible is that, U.S./Israel? Come on!)
THINK:
The U.N. protocol on THE RIGHTS OF THE CHILD becoming the basis for the standard of good government worldwide
THINK:
All of humanity going green really fast, overcoming, together, the challenges of global warming, planetary drought, massive starvation etc

OK - FIVE MINUTES, GUYS.

THINK! And THANKS!
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Stephanie B. Oct 31, 2007, 2:54pm EDT
Not everyone runs on greed, John. Many people choose to do the right thing even when they aren't financially benefiting from it. I just haven't seen them in politics for some time.
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James C. Oct 31, 2007, 3:42pm EDT
David,

Excellent article as always! I have to say that I especially concur with your final sentence! Great analysis.
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Jerry Kays Oct 31, 2007, 3:50pm EDT
I am still reading down the comment list of this wonderful article David (wonderful in the sense of putting out the truth behind so much) and I will post here what I see coming, (already posted on a couple other threads, and with good reason I believe) ..

In any case, when this violent rhetoric escalates to the next step of the bombing if Iran (or any 'other' country in that area) by either us or Israel, THEN the draft will be reinstated, THEN rioting in the streets of this nation, Then Martial Law ... THEN Fascist Dictatorship becomes visible to one and all ... but by THEN it will be TOO LATE !
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James C. Oct 31, 2007, 3:55pm EDT
David,

What you are proposing is a frightening scenario, indeed! I have a little faith that this scenario will not transpire. I agree that the wealth seems to grow on itself, like a cancer. But many presidents, and parties, have relinquished power without taking extraordinary measures to avoid the inevitable.

A second thing is that ability to convince one's self that they are already invincible. I was told several times that Lyndon Johnson's withdrawal from the race was because he knew he would be defeated. I am convinced that is was for the altruistic reason he gave because, in his own mind, he was convinced he could pull it out of the bag and win!

Just like LBJ, the Republican party thinks that when they turn Rove and others loose to do their thing, that they will not only win the Presidency but possibly a majority in both houses as well.
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Bruce K. Oct 31, 2007, 5:39pm EDT
My early comment seems to have gotten bypassed ... so I will take a moment to disagree with you on the villian of all of this. It is not election financing. Certainly election financing plays a significant part, but the real issue here is some of what I was mentioning earlier, the ownership of the government by powerful global corporations.

Take a look at some of what I quoted out of Naomi Klein's new book "The Shock Doctrine".
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Jerry Kays Oct 31, 2007, 5:53pm EDT
James, I usually agree with what you write as it contains wisdom, but on this matter you may be a bit too optimistic ... in a way I hope you are right, in another way, I would like to see things come to a head so that all would become obvious to everyone so we could finally get on with correcting it all ... then again, maybe the corrections will be made naturally over time ... it is really only the end result that matters the most I guess ...

But there surely IS a circle of greed ... and there are circles within circles spiralling down from a relative hierarchy where the greed and power are ever more pronounced the higher one goes or gets ... and those below know not of those very far above because from the top all is controlled, where those below only know what is needed, nothing more ... a true conspiracy of the highest and greatest order in the final analysis ... truth be known IMnsHO.
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John Knight Oct 31, 2007, 7:08pm EDT
Bruce,

"the real issue here is some of what I was mentioning earlier, the ownership of the government by powerful global corporations."

Agreed. What you fail to comprehend, I believe, is that they DO own the "government", and what the "government" is doing IS what the corporations dictate. It's a done deal, not a future danger.

Corporations are not people. They exist for one purpose only, as they openly, and almost proudly proclaim; Increased wealth and power of shareholders.

If war increases the wealth and power of major shareholders, it is the duty of the corporation to promote war. It does, and they do.

So, no, there is no reason whatsoever to trust our "government" to do our biding. The major corporations work intentionally to prevent any who do not support their interests to be defeated, and they have the bucks to buy unlimited attack ads and smear campaigns, and false witnesses, to make it stick.

You are right about what the danger is, but don't seem to comprehend that the danger is real, and growing more unstoppable by the day. Inhuman lust for money, by means of voracious non-human corporations, has taken over control of policy and the media which tells us what is going on. It's done, the current policies ARE the corporate will.
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Patrick C. Oct 31, 2007, 7:23pm EDT
Greed feeds on greed ... the only way to stop it is by trauma ... example: when the internet stock bubble burst. Traumatic is a gentle word. In real life, to stop the the big businesses from copulating with the government is unrealistic and if something were to be done and succeded, then the form of government we have today would be just a memory.
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Carolion Grailbear Oct 31, 2007, 7:33pm EDT
Jerry, I've been shown the same thing you have BUT - here's the thing: the wording was, "IF there is a firestorm in the Middle East, then there WILL be a civil war in this country."

In other words, we've been shown a potential future. It's only one of many potential. Every challenge, remember, always has at least six positive potential outcomes.

I choose to call on the thought power of all those with powerfully developed will-to-good, to negate those two big IFs.
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pamela r. Oct 31, 2007, 10:46pm EDT
And the machine keeps growing like some nasty virus--When are we all gonna get fed up enough to tell these sob's to cease and desist that this is not the will of the people who elect you folks to office in the first place--I really fear for our future sometimes.
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Mischelle T. Oct 31, 2007, 11:57pm EDT
We are beginning to see the decline of democracy, the checks and balances are being removed.
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Timothy V. Nov 1, 2007, 12:29am EDT
In late October, 2008 there are devestating wildfires across the American west. Then in early November, a couple of catagory 5 hurricanes devestate the Gulf Coast as well as several oil refineries. Then there are several ' dirty bombs ' set off in various locations across the U.S. by supposed ' terrorists ' causing a state of panic througout the U.S. .... Then top all of that off with massive chaos, louting, robberies, muggings and God knows what else..then WHALA.....Little Georgie declares Martial Law and suspends the November 2008 Presidential elections. Then say hello to the first ' Dictator of the United States of America '. It can happen that easily.
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John Knight Nov 1, 2007, 1:05am EDT
Timothy,

It can happen a whole lot easier than that. No hurricanes needed, and no more than one large scale "terrorist" event, or a scattering of smaller scale ones is required. The President becomes the "Commander in Chief" of every public servant at every level, and has total control of any resources, public and private, he chooses, the instant a single piece of paper is co-signed by a single person (the Attorney General).

It is even conceivable that no real "event" of any kind would be needed, and pre-prepared news footage could be simply flooded into the media after the fact, since complete control of major sources is already set up. It's called the emergency broadcast system in part, and has been substantially enhanced over the last few years as a part of the general movement toward centralized emergency management on many levels.

The President can literally assume a dictatorial status at will.

Which means, of course, he is now.
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Timothy V. Nov 1, 2007, 1:24am EDT
"The President can literally assume a dictatorial status at will."

" Which means, of course, he is now. "

John .....exactly. What's even more scary about all of this is the fact that Georgie's grandfather, Prescott Bush, was a Nazi supporter during WWII. Looks like he learned all of this on the knees of his grandfather as well as how to incorporate it into the U.S. system of politics.
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Bruce K. Nov 1, 2007, 2:09am EDT
John, when these boards get so long it is hard to carry on a conversation, but the point I am continuously trying to make and do not seem to be able to get any traction with every here who is far left or far right, is that besides running the country, the corporations are not totally evil.

Corporations do a lot of good things too. The incentives are for them to overstep because the political activism is the way to ensure profits stay high because if they don't the corporations are not doing job #1. We want corporations to do well because we want jobs and to be able to buy things, as well as have our investments profit so we can retire someday and support the economy.

The people have not JUST been cut out of the process, they do not anywhere near understand it anymore. It is too complicated, and anyone who does know the system well enough can write out some paranoid diatribe and make a huge bunch of people unhappy and militant so they go out and demonstrate, often for no good reason.

The answer to this is to have some larger number of citizens informed enough so they can express the reality to others, otherwise those in the know will always take advantage of those who are ignorant. It is like buying a car, the customer always gets screwed unless you are armed with information and know what a good deal is.

The people have allowed themselves to get so far away from understanding anything .... what good are they ... what threat are they. Like Iran thinking it does not have to listen to the US because we can do nothing to them, our own government thinks of the people this way. We have settled for the lame stupid beauty contest questions thrown at the candidates, and they are not even nice to look at in bathing suits either.

We need to simplify our American system, the laws, how things work, period. Only then will people be able to act intelligently politically. Then we need to say that given democracy, which is a huge power, the citizens need to act responsibly.

I think it is a long shot, so we have what we have, and when there is no one guarding the henhouse the fox will play. It isn't going to change or get fixed, the people have to figure out what they can do to find and hold accountable the people we elect to run the country.
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Bruce K. Nov 1, 2007, 2:12am EDT
Timothy, if you think George Bush is a Nazi and his Grandfather put him in the White House, what chance do you think there is to fix anything? Yeah, Prescott Bush and some other early fascists even tried to take over the country and get rid of Roosevelt, who they detested then about as much as they detest the Clintons now. I think Bush is not a fascist, he is an elitist, that is OK, lots of people are eliists, the problem is that the rest of the government let him put his buddies in charge of everything, and change everything all at once ... with no evidence that it was sensible.

No one should ever have the right or the power to change the country too much, that is what has been good about America, we have been able to avoid the fanatics so far pretty well.
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John Knight Nov 1, 2007, 2:50am EDT
Bruce,

"corporations are not totally evil"

Agreed. Many corporations function much like a traditional "big business", and provide numerous benefits for society. But they are not in an oppositional, or cancellation relationship to those that have become heartless machines of corruption and greed.

How many Mafias are to many? Is the good that some other organization might do relevant to the corrosive effects of one based on avarice and ruthless acquisition? Again I see that tendency to lump many people or things together, producing a blindness to what harm is being done by specific entities.

And there is a very insidious effect which unscrupulous corporations have on the whole domain; They drive under, and swallow, those not willing to play dirty. They have many advantages over moral corporations, and force the moral ones to begin drifting toward the inhuman crap, just to survive. The law of the jungle approach is highly effective, and generates an evolutionary force that has no natural enemies.

I KNOW there are decent folks working in decent corporations, but they are becoming an endangered species.
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Cena W. Nov 1, 2007, 2:57am EDT
Happy Halloween U.S.A.

David, terrifyingly thoughtful article, and very interesting comments.

ps bruce k, U.S. based corporations are doing well because they have sent all jobs to good ole communist china.
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Diana Raabe Nov 1, 2007, 9:47am EDT
Several good points made here, David, with greed being at the crux of so many of the problems we face today.
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Jeanne O'Neill Nov 1, 2007, 12:49pm EDT
We are not going to war with Iran because of the things you said and mostly because geographically there isn't a way to have troops on the ground.

I personally think the emphasis on this is the Democratic party using this hype as a ploy to defeat the Republican party in '08. They do not need to worry about the Republicans. I still do not see a candidate in the party that I would trust to lead.

The downfall of this country will be the greed within this country and the lack of education our kids are missing out on. THe fall will come from allowing judges to interpret the constitution to suit their own adgendas. The fall of this country will come because people are being amused into stupidity.
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Jerry Kays Nov 1, 2007, 4:54pm EDT
Carolion, my mission has been to call on all of the people to just begin to broaden their horizons of what they think about, to get out of the confining box of thought construct, that our society, led by it's leaders (that own our media which informs us), has actually built around us ... with our being really unaware, meaning that it was not with our permission. We have been 'tricked', but that IS partly our fault because we have accepted their entertainment packages as our preferred distraction rather than face up to the hard facts of personal responsibility for our actions overall.

The religion of the land has convinced people, not only their followers, that in the end we will all be saved by someone that will appear just for that purpose ... but there will not be an external messiah before the internal one shows up, that of our own connection to it all spiritually where we come to realize that we each must first be self responsible and do our individual parts in the needed changes ...
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Jerry Kays Nov 1, 2007, 5:57pm EDT
Bruce, I can recognise that with time and your reading of the right books (not those published by Regnary) that you are slowly beginning to come around ... that is what happens when one opens to seeking real truth and begins to inquire of areas not previously visited ...

I do want to grant you that I understand all of your fears, as well as your support of those you do, but you must remember that all of that comes from certain perspectives, one can truly justify any view they hold in this world, it all comes down to the morality of the person and the reason for the case they want to make. We DO create our own reality to a great degree, a much larger degree than most know.

As for your denouncement of my views and my spirituality, that also just stems from your chosen perspective, I take no offense, I always just consider the lack of understanding of the source ... we can all believe whatever we want ... to each their own ... and I must say that one point much earlier in my life I thought much more closer to what you seem to now ... but time can change anyone ... some for bad and some for good ... but thanks to our genetic structure, contrary to the belief of many, we have much more good latent in us than the feared animalistic ... give truth a chance and you will discover peace ... the peace that will set you free !
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luckky _. Nov 1, 2007, 6:03pm EDT
I'm interested in knowing what the ''BLAME CLINTON'' crowd has to say about all this. Their absence from all of these arguments in the past few months has been rather noticeable and one is forced to wonder what has brought that about.
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Bruce K. Nov 1, 2007, 7:24pm EDT
Burka, I do have a strong opinion that overturning Islamic Totalitarianism now will save millions of lives in the not so long run as well as stabilizing oil production and prices and stop the expansion of militant Islam to the rest of the world, actually saving that religion. When you look at the obvious talent and intelligence of the people in this part of the world it is a travesty the misery that these people have to live under.

We can do this, and it is to Bush's credit I think that he tried it ... and to his everlasting discredit the incompetence with which he executed it. Associating Bush with everything that is going on the in the world is simple-minded, and there are some very specific and bad things going on in the US and the world. We have to put these things in perspective.

I would love to see a way that some of the profits companies have made on the Iraq war can be taxes at a high rate. Reading about the abuses and corruption that has gone on is very demoralizing. It is a separate issue, Not many people understand what is going on in the goverment and the military and all the noise doesn't help. One of the problem is the courts that cannot be counted on to dispense justice because of an often caprious use of Constitutional interpretation.

Also the Fundamentalist Free Marketeers are trying to make everything in the government private to fullfill their idea of how the world should be. This was never mentioned in the campaign rhetoric, because no one would understand it. How does it fit into the Constitution. We use the Constitution anymore like the Bible or the Koran to justify the actions of those in power to do what they want.

Ordinary average regular people can hardly fit into the country anymore, how can they vote, except being obstructionist? The government wants to move ahead, they have to do something, and the new systems that only some understand are ripe to be exploited, and by global interests too.

Internationally we have to get the Islamic Totalitarian thing under control as well as energy and trade.

Nationally we have to start pushing to include people in the economy. We have to simplify taxes and business, and teach people so they understand and are not hostile to business and understand the value of it to the country. No one is working on that because in the US for so long business has just been a code word for exploiting the people, either through taxes, legislation or prices, not to mention the sqaushing of unions.

The separation of these things are key because the people are fighting over two interpretations that can never be reconciled while international interests move right along doing what they want.
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John Knight Nov 1, 2007, 7:44pm EDT
Bruce,

Once again the lumping together deal . . .

How can you not comprehend that the reality of danger in the form of "Islamic extremists" does NOT equate to Mr. Bush acting against that danger. The approach this Administration has relentlessly employed has vastly increased the recruiting powers of the extremists. You may continue indefinitely to imagine that this is due to errors in execution, but when will you consider the possibility that Mr. Bush is EXPLOITING the danger from "extremists" to further his own world domination agenda?

What makes it automatic that simply because his plans include killing some people who may support the radicals you fear, that he is actually acting out of fear of them himself? Could it not be that he is using this as a means of generating support for his ambitions, and not out of concern for our freedom? Would this not explain the incessant clumsiness?
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Allana G. Nov 1, 2007, 7:58pm EDT
This is chilling. I just cannot believe that there aren't more people screaming STOP, BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!!!!!!!
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Sandy F. Nov 1, 2007, 9:10pm EDT
We must speak up... they have come for all of the middle and lower class at once. If we don't speak up now our children/grandchildren will be the slave labor class of the next generations.

I just read that Ahmad Chalabi is "an important part" of Gen. Petraeus's plan for Iraq.
Can you believe this administration? But more importantly, can you believe all in the beltway who sit on their hands and look the other way? What is the pay off, I wonder?

I agree with Molly Ivins... we should be in the streets.
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James Moylan Nov 1, 2007, 9:29pm EDT
You can only cry 'wolf' so many times mate. We have a far more rusted on electorate than you do in the states and it the fear and loathing campaigns of the right-wing don't seem to be working here in OZ. See my latest post: Australia Votes 2007, or, How to maintain a rock hard election for 12 months at a time.
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Patrick C. Nov 1, 2007, 10:24pm EDT
For some reason I've been listening to anti war songs of the 60's and 70's. People then it seems, had a lot more courage to voice their concerns than we do today. Where are all these peace activists I wonder. Sure would be nice to see them rise from the ashes once again.

Timothy V ... it's Viola not whala.
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Bruce K. Nov 1, 2007, 10:54pm EDT
voila, not viola or whala
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John Knight Nov 1, 2007, 10:55pm EDT
Come gather round people, wherever you roam

And admit that the waters around you have grown

And accept it that soon you'll be drenched to the bone


If your time to you is worth savin

You'd better start swimin or you'll sink like a stone

For the times they are a changin
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Patrick C. Nov 1, 2007, 10:58pm EDT
correction noted bruce
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Dave McGill Nov 2, 2007, 1:32am EDT
Cecile S. made a comment under Sunday's "The Toll" which has great significance. She pointed out that Iran has now forced Japan to pay for Iran's oil in yen.

Many believe that Bush's real problem with both Hussein and - now - Iran has to do with their attacks on the dollar. In late 2000, Hussein started to require that all purchases of Iraqi oil had to be paid for by Euros, and the theory is that this was a major motive for our invasion.

As far as Iran is concerned, consider the following quote from a recent research project:

"In 2005, Iran also began an initiative which, if
successful, would ultimately convert the global economy from
its current dollar base, to a Euro base. Referred to as the
IOB, or Iranian Oil Bourse, it's essentially an oil exchange,
or oil stock market, which will be based upon the Euro, and
not on the American dollar. The proposed location for this
exchange is the island of Kish, located in the Persian Gulf.
The Iranian Oil Bourse had been projected to open sometime
in 2006, but certain bureaucratic issues within the Iranian
Government have caused it to be delayed. However, these
delays don't mean that it isn't going to happen. In fact, a
news article posted on the Bloomberg website in December of
2006 makes it very plain that Iran has full intentions of
going ahead with the bourse, and plans to cut the American
dollar out of the picture."

In the early seventies, Saudi Arabia agreed that all of its oil transactions would be in dollars, and most OPEC nations followed suit. This gave great strength to the dollar which, of course, was no longer backed by gold or silver.

Now, the dollar's strength is ebbing as more countries are shifting their international transactions to other currencies, most notably, the Euro. The countries who make up the "axis of evil" have all started switching away from the dollar, as has Venezuela and even Russia...

While a modest drop in value may encourage exports, a crashing dollar is tantamount to the disappearance of the United States as a major world power and this is a grave threat to the stated principles of the PNAC and the neocons who still have great influence in our foreign policy.
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Bruce K. Nov 2, 2007, 1:45am EDT
David, I find the fear stories about China calling in its debts or the dollar crashing, or any of the many conspiracy theories that are supposed to throw terror and fright into our hearts pretty silly.

Just out of curiosity though, if the Neocons were fixated on making the dollar the world's currency and that had something to do with global leadership, would anyone really rather have Iran, Russia, Saudi Arabia, or even Europe replace the US?

Personally with 450 million and an economy larger than the US I think the EU has every right to be taken seriously ... we should be happy that the two largest blocks are Western economies and not driven into fear. Things are getting better, the good guys are getting stronger and the bad guys are on the run.
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John Knight Nov 2, 2007, 3:33am EDT
Bruce,

I was wondering the other day . . . why the heck don't the folks with mega bucks start paying some people to go on to "social networking" sites, to provide enough "big brother is your friend" chatter, to give the true believers some "help" in maintaining the whole "good guys vs bad guys" canard. I mean what would it cost? These people EACH have more invested in a limousine, than it would take to get a small army of amoral, unpatriotic, semi-literate hacks, to plant oodles of handy escape routes for the "terrorized" ones to get back to that good old us vs them stupor.

This Internet thingy just can't be something ALL feel comfortable about . . .

Let's see . . . what would they be instructed to say . . . perhaps;

"You bush haters will say anything . . ." . and maybe:

"What people need to do is stop being paranoid about their authorities"

"What people need to do is keep thinking about bloodthirsty ragheads".

"I am a liberal, I care about all that warm and fuzzy stuff, honest."

"Hey, I'd rather live like I do, than in [insert current boogyman hangout]"

" . . . and if that means we end up with cheap oil, all the better . . . "

"If they're not totalitarian fascist, why don't they crush the extremists?"

"I'm the first one to critisize President Bush, he made some mistakes."

"9/11 . . Saddam . . Al qaeda . . terrorists . . fanatics . . conspiracy theory"

"Remember what happened when nobody stopped Hitler."

"Forget what happened when nobody stopped Hitler."

"Go back to sleep or work. No need to keep speaking or thinking about all this complicated stuff. Your government will kill the people that hate you and want to enslave you. Go back to sleep or work."


. . . just thinkin, ya know?
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Bruce K. Nov 2, 2007, 5:56am EDT
John, I guess that's your clever way to dismiss what I have to say so you do not have to think about it. Those kinds of thoughts occurred to me a long time ago too.

I think there probably are Republican media monitors ... I know they monitor television and radio to get their point across very effectively, like the fairness doctrine used to do for Democrats. Why do you supposed the Democrats are so bad at this kind of thing? I think it is because they are so busy making up their own idiosynchratic reality stories that cannot be verified that they cannot agree on anything, even the basic nature of reality. I find it really hard to relate to anyone on the left anymore because they have been almost traumatized into hysteria. I have know idea of this was some genius idea by the right wing think tank propaganda units or just the way things happened.

What is the payoff to you to keep whipping up in your mind things you cannot prove though? How do you build a concensus with other people arguing about which WTC towers were rigged, or stuff like this that no one will or can agree on.

Personally I am a social Liberal who happens to believe in an active foreign policy. it is my personal opinion, and it may change, but no one is paying me for it. I have had my fill of hearing wild flailing arguments out of all bounds of reality. Maybe they are paying you to make such ridiculous arguments to alienate lefties so they think there is no hope of party unity?

So ... if there is a basic nature of reality and way to unite citizens based on some kind of philosophy, the two sides need to come together to compromise, but with hotheaded ideologues always arguing that is impossible.

The left keeps believing any argument that is set in front of them as long as there are unflattering or insulting insinuations about Bush, that is enough to incite emotional unity. Emotional unity might be a start, but you cannot run a country on emotional unity, you need a goal, and all Republicans have clear mundane goals while the Democrats are all over the place.

In terms of information, money, power, weapons, in all major ways the world is shrinking, and it is pushing us up against really nasty people and we are going to blow ourselves up if we do not come to terms globally and realistically with the problems we face.
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Lisa Bouzan Nov 2, 2007, 7:55am EDT
David -
Great article. How do we get the money out of politics?

Bruce K. - you need to connect the dots. The large corporations you refer to feed the pigs at the troth.
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Joe T. Nov 2, 2007, 9:47am EDT
Wars are usually about trade, Burka. You may be on to something.
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Jeannie B. Nov 2, 2007, 10:11am EDT
"Those within the circle of greed, however, have every reason to believe that the president's track record, in all of these areas, has been right on the money. The last 3 words say it all.

First, they stage a minor coup to take office. Then they convince the populace that terrible things are just about to happen. Then they position themselves as the protectors of liberty, all the while lessening it. Then, they stage a major coup and take absolute power. Guess which stage we're at? The Prez learned a LOT from grandpa!
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Jeannie B. Nov 2, 2007, 10:16am EDT
btw, I went to a FedGov office the other day, and saw the official picture of the Vice Prez. Never saw such a nasty little, "canary-that-ate-the-cat" grin in my life.
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Bruce K. Nov 2, 2007, 1:59pm EDT
Lisa:
> Bruce K. - you need to connect the dots. The large
> corporations you refer to feed the pigs at the troth.

It's trough .... that is so "Arianna Huffington" of you.
The problem is everyone seems to want to get to the
trough instead of making it fair to everyone else, and
that includes most of the Democrats too. Once someone
has worked hard, or so they think, to get where they
are it becomes easier to work that it does to complain.
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Bruce K. Nov 2, 2007, 2:00pm EDT
Burka, or maybe they are just hostile the US and the West and seek to disrupt the economic systems? After all there would be no point in all this if they were not hostile.
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Bruce K. Nov 2, 2007, 2:03pm EDT
Jeannie ... Gore could have done about anything, he chose to concede.
Do you ever wonder why? Why despite a lot of support now he does
not run for President. Maybe he really does not want the job. And
Kerry? Face it the country is polarized and it is not because of a
coup, or anything else, it is an honest disagreement. People need to
stop making all this personal and start looking at things generically
and objectively, let's make it fair for all ... even including the rich.
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John Knight Nov 2, 2007, 4:24pm EDT
Bruce,

No, people need to STOP looking at things "generically". Bozo concepts like "good guys and bad guys" are for imbeciles and little children. You are simply calling for people to wait while the neocons finish up their plans. All this other BS is diversionary, and completely fanciful.
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