I came across this little homily on the existence of God in my email this weekend. I believe it addresses a serious question this nation has been attempting to answer for the past 30, or so, years.
I've also seen this topic debated, sometimes ferociously, right here on Gather. I personally believe in the existence of God and that He is the Supreme Power over all His creation. I understand and respect the fact that others don't necessarily see things in the same light.
I would ask everyone, regardless of your perspective on the question, to read this little story, and then contribute your thoughts if you'd like.
The Professor and the Student
An avowed atheist science professor begins his school year with a lecture to the students.
"Let me explain the problem science has with religion." The professor pauses before his class and then asks one of his new students to stand.
"You're a Christian, aren't you, son?"
"Yes sir," the student says.
"So you believe in God?"
"Absolutely."
"Is God good?"
"Sure! God's good."
"Is God all-powerful? Can God do anything?"
"Yes."
"The Bible says I'm evil."
The professor grins knowingly.
"Aha! The Bible!" He considers for a moment.
"Here's one for you. Let's say there's a sick person over here and you can cure him. You can do it. Would you help him? Would you try?"
"Yes sir, I would."
"So you're good...!"
"I wouldn't say that."
"But why not say that? You'd help a sick and maimed person if you could. Most of us would if we could. But God doesn't."
The student does not answer, so the professor continues.
The student remains silent.
"No, you can't, can you?" the professor says. He takes a sip of water from a glass on his desk to give the student time to relax.
"Let's start again, young fella. Is God good?"
"Er...yes," the student says.
"Is Satan good?"
The student doesn't hesitate on this one. "No."
"Then where does Satan come from?"
The student falters. "From God"
"That's right. God made Satan, didn't he? Tell me, son. Is there evil in this world?"
"Yes, sir."
"Evil's everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything, correct?"
"Yes."
"So who created evil?" The professor continued, "If God created everything, then God created evil, since evil exists, and according to the principle that our works define who we are, then God is evil."
Again, the student has no answer.
"Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things, do they exist in this world?"
The student squirms on his feet. "Yes."
"So who created them?"
The student does not answer again, so the professor repeats his question.
"Who created them?"
There is still no answer. Suddenly the lecturer breaks away to pace in front of the classroom. The class is mesmerized.
"Tell me," he continues onto another student. "Do you believe in Jesus Christ, son?"
The student's voice betrays him and cracks.
"Yes, professor, I do."
The old man stops pacing.
"No sir. I've never seen Him."
"Then tell us if you've ever heard your Jesus?"
"No, sir, I have not."
"No, sir, I'm afraid I haven't."
"Yet you still believe in him?"
"Yes."
"According to the rules of empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your God doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?"
"Nothing," the student replies. "I only have my faith."
The student stands quietly for a moment, before asking a question of his own.
"Professor, is there such thing as heat?"
"Yes," the professor replies. "There's heat."
"And is there such a thing as cold?"
"Yes, son, there's cold too."
"No sir, there isn't."
The professor turns to face the student, obviously interested. The room suddenly becomes very quiet.
The student begins to explain.
"You can have lots of heat, even more heat, super-heat, mega-heat, unlimited heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat, but we don't have anything called 'cold'. We can hit up to 458 degrees below zero, which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold; otherwise we would be able to go colder than the lowest -458 degrees.
"Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy. Absolute zero (-458 F) is the total absence of heat. You see, sir, cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat we can measure in thermal units because heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it."
Silence across the room. A pen drops somewhere in the classroom, sounding like a hammer.
"What about darkness, professor. Is there such a thing as darkness?"
"Yes," the professor replies without hesitation. "What is night if it isn't darkness?"
The professor begins to smile at the student in front of him. This will be a good semester.
"So what point are you making, young man?"
"Yes, professor. My point is, your philosophical premise is flawed to start with, and so your conclusion must also be flawed."
The professor's face cannot hide his surprise this time.
"Flawed? Can you explain how?"
"You are working on the premise of duality," the student explains.
"You argue that there is life and then there's death; a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure.
"Sir, science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life, just the absence of it.
"Now tell me, professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?"
"If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, young man, yes, of course I do."
"Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?"
The professor begins to shake his head, still smiling, as he realizes where the argument is going. A very good semester, indeed.
"Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you now not a scientist, but a preacher?"
The class is in uproar. The student remains silent until the commotion has subsided.
"To continue the point you were making earlier to the other student, let me give you an example of what I mean."
The student looks around the room.
"Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the professor's brain?"
The class breaks out into laughter.
"So if science says you have no brain, how can we trust your lectures, sir?"
Now the room is silent. The professor just stares at the student, his face unreadable. Finally, after what seems an eternity, the old man answers.
"I guess you'll have to take them on faith."
"Now, you accept that there is faith, and, in fact, faith exists with life," the student continues. "Now, sir, is there such a thing as evil?"
To this the student replied, "Evil does not exist sir, or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God's love present in his heart. It's like the cold that comes when there is no heat or the darkness that comes when there is no light."
The professor sat down.


Comments: 23
Thank you so much.
Thanks, honey! Where are my cinnamon rolls?
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Thoroughly enjoyed the story and the subsequent comment string.
Isn't it funny how those people who tend to rate articles low target anything related to God or godliness? My articles on abortion got the same treatment... as well as another one of similar ilk.
I have two problems with this homily:
1) This homily would have been just as effective without attempting to further the negative stereotype of atheist academics (implicitly, also liberal). Although, on the other hand, we can note that the professor did appear to appreciate that the student was challenging him.
2) I think slipping in the inaccurate portrayal of evolution was probably a key purpose of writing this homily. It is pretty sly. Maybe that professor had not personally observed evolution, but the process HAS been observed and is a scientific fact. Species evolve all of the time - it is ongoing - and it is an indisputable fact. The "student's" comments are blatantly incorrect.
By the way, David, if you continue to spread this homily, you might want to correct the minor error in the paragraph about the professor's brain - the person double-used touch and did not use taste. Also, you might want to re-write a portion to reflect that God could also be female!
The Holy Bible
King James Version. 2000
Genesis 1
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
I prefer to believe that God is actually asexual and that male and female each have different aspects of God's nature within each. I think that's a reasonable interpretation of the Creation as it is related in the Bible. In the King James version, at any rate.
As to the evolutionary theory of man, I will agree that a majority of scientists hold that to be valid. However that view is not unanimous, with reputable researchers finding fault with several aspects of that consensus. As any rate, I believe it is a bit strong to say it is "proven" fact, hence the classification as a "theory".
I think this link can explain that much better than I, since I am not a scientist, and wouldn't even attempt to play on on TV.
Evolution Of Man - Scientific Evidence
Thanks for the tip on the redundancy. It had escaped my attention.
The "theory" aspect comes in when we are discussing the origin of humans. It is a theory that has enough scientific evidence supporting it that it is far and away the only scientific theory that should be taught as science.
Creationism is the way that many religions have explained the question that has naturally occurred to generations of inquisitive minds. However, its very nature eludes scientific proofs. It is - as the homily suggests - an article of faith. It does not disprove evolutionary theory. It should not be taught in science class. It can be taught and discussed in religious institutions. In a nation that is founded without a national religion, it should not be taught or discussed in our publicly-funded schools.
By the way, as someone who reads, discusses and teaches from Genesis, I STILL don't feel the need to accept its explanations as the literal and unchallengeable truth. Yet, it still can be - and is - an integral part of my faith.
paul w., Oct 28, 2007, 8:36pm EDT
Of course it doesn't disprove evolutionary process theory, paul. It explains where and how it started. I personally believe that evolution is God's way of creating. I will grant you that is my believe (faith).
I guess my point is I disagree with the idea that science and religion, of whatever faith or denomination, requires seperate consideration. Science essentially is the study of process, the "how", if you will. Religion provides the "why"? I see nothing inconsistent in presenting the how, AND why, when conducting intellectual inquiries. Indeed, by focusing on one, to the exclusion of the other, gives an incomplete picture, does it not?
"By the way, as someone who reads, discusses and teaches from Genesis, I STILL don't feel the need to accept its explanations as the literal and unchallengeable truth."
I agree with you paul, to the extent of taking the Biblical story of Creation as literal truth. For example, Genesis says God created everything in six days and rested on the seventh. But, who are we, as mere mortals, to enforce our definition of what a "day" is to God? I would submit that an Entity, that is eternal and omnipotent, is not constrained to our 24-hour "day". No, a day to God could be a billion years or more.
It is not the literal words that is the essence of the truth in the Bible. It is the spirit in which -- and from Whom -- they are written that contains the everlasting truth.
Thanks for the dialog, paul. Have a great day.
Thanks for stopping by.
God Bless.
David,
Our son had a teacher in high school, who taught (against the schools' policy), evolution from the science book and still had a (King James version), Bible with which to cross reference on the other side of his desk.
If this was an email or from an email, I've never seen it. I like the anology presented.
Marilyn
And in here lies the problem.
When the student asks the Professor if he has ever witnessed Evolution, or has science ever witnessed it, if the professor answers no, then he is not fit to teach. We witness it every day. How often have you heard that a anti-bacterial no longer works on what it was designed for? Or a pesticide no longer is effective. Or a new strain of virus that Doctors need a new vacine for?
THese are all because of Evolution, as Evolution never ends. And yes it is as simple as that, and as complex as well.