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by Kathryn E.
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January 15, 2006

A Short History of the Web: Or, Who Invented Cookies, Anyway?

October 21, 2007 11:04 PM EDT (Updated: October 21, 2007 11:06 PM EDT)
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What are cookies and why are they important? And who invented this wonderful Web we use everyday?

 

 

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 Chocolate Chip Cookie, Wikipedia Commons

 

By cookies, I don't mean tasty chocolate chip cookies or other edible cookies but cookies stored on your computer, software programs which retain certain identifying characteristics about you, such as your name, and the IP (Internet Protocol) address of your computer.

These, along with much else about the Web were invented by folks in Europe and at MIT.

Let me clarify that. The Internet itself has existed since the U.S. Dept of Defense created a project in 1958 to keep U.S. military technology ahead of the Soviets, who had just launched Sputnik. This initiative was known as ARPA (Advanced Research Projects Agency) and was renamed in 1972 as the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency or DARPA. 

DARPA funded the development of computer technology, which housed the world's first large-scale computers capable of connecting researchers worldwide. These computers were the precursors to the graphical user interface we know today as the Web.

It was these early university researchers and a few other brave souls who were the Internet users of the 1960s and 1970s.

By the 1980s, the Internet was growing in popularity -- even with its clunky user tools. It was projected that the Internet would continue to grow in popularity, beyond anyone's wildest dreams.

Or beyond most people's wildest dreams. In 1989, in a physics lab in Geneva, Switzerland, one man, by the name of Tim-Berners Lee, slaved away on an early project. This project soon became the world's first Web site.

Tim Berners-Lee was born in London, of parents Conway Berners-Lee and Mary Lee Woods, mathematicians who had helped build the Manchester Mark I, one of the world's first computers.

Tim's mother had a fondness for spiders and used to string threads from the ceiling so the spiders could climb down.  I thought spiders were clever enough to manage on their own, but I guess the help was not unwelcome.

 

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 Tim Berners-Lee, Wikipedia Commons

 

While at Oxford, Tim built a computer using an old Motorola processor, an old television, a soldering iron and electrical sockets.

After Tim graduated from Oxford in 1976, he worked for various companies. By 1980, while a contractor at the world's largest particle physics lab, known as CERN - the Centre pour Européenne Recherches Nuclear, Tim built a system that used hypertext - a language that would enable the sharing of information more easily than older Internet computers allowed.

How many of us used the Internet before the 1990s? Not many.  I used an early form of email, DECnet, in 1985 but did not use the Internet - or the Web until 1995.

By 1989, CERN had the largest Internet node in Europe, and Tim saw that the time was ripe merge his idea of a hypertext-based language with the older Internet world, to make a new, and then-barely foreseeable future of worldwide sharing of textual and visual information to anyone, free of charge.

By 1990, with the help of others, the World's first Web site was born at CERN, in August 1991. The first browser was called the WorldWideWeb.

Tim did not work alone. He brought other brilliant lights with him.

Dave Raggett, from the UK, was one such bright light. Dave was from Hewlett-Packard in the UK, and was the lead developer of the HTML language, which was based on an earlier markup language developed at H-P.

In 1994, Tim founded the Worldwide Web Consortium, the W3C.org at MIT. The purpose of the W3C was to be a standards-body, made up of many member companies, such as Microsoft and hundreds of others - that collaborated on technical standards to improve the web.

In 1994, the World Wide Web - the graphic interface over the Internet was very rough. Companies competed with products that did not work together. Netscape, founded by Marc Andreesen, was one such company. 

Did you kinow that the original code for the Netscape Navigator browser was written in 72 hours? That explains why this early browser did not work well. 

Also, do you know that we (at the W3C) were supposed to use the Netscape browser over the Microsoft browser, because it was known that Microsoft's browser had back-end holes, by which viruses could enter or from which  trade secrets could escape?  

What you see and hear when you get video and audio is the product of the team who developed SMIL -  Synchronized Multimedia Interface Language - that, by 1998 was under development but which would soon bring audio and video to the web.

Voice-based Web browsers in cars were first developed so that blind and visually impaired users could browse the Web.  The GPS-based phones were in early development in 1998 by the W3C.

The original members of the W3C,  now based at MIT, with mirror sites in France and Japan (and dozens of smaller offices worldwide), were a handful of eminent software engineers from the UK, France, Germany and the Nederlands, among others.

There are at least two other Gather members who - along with me - personally know some of these people. (Not to mention any names, but you know who you are). One Gather member also worked at the W3C but not at the same time when I was there.  Another Gather member hired one of the W3C software designers to work for him in his business.

It was Tim who coined the term, the World Wide Web and the use of the www.

Tim and his team coined the term, URL  - which originally stood for UniformResource Locator, then became known as Universal Resource Locator.

By the time I was consulting for the W3C,  it decided the URL acronym and abbreviation were too cumbersome to use and that most people called it the web address, and that that is what the URL should be so renamed. And so it was. 

Tim and a few others thought it would be a capital idea to have a visual interface to the Internet. Dave Raggett wanted to have the Internet resemble a magazine.

Others believed that increasing the sophistication of the user interface would be wonderful, and the capabilities we use today, such as style sheets, audio and video, and voice activated web browsers, were developed at the W3C in the 1990s.


Voice-activated browsers were first developed for blind and visually impaired users could browse the Web. 

GPS-based phones were in development in 1998 at the W3C.


Others of the original nine inventors of the web invented the now-infamous cookies. Cookies were a way to track information.

At the W3C.org cookies were considered a double-edged sword: it was important to be able to track information but it could be somewhat risky for users, as well. The W3C wanted to learn what early Web users were using the Web for  - an important piece of research.

As far back as 1998, Tim himself expressed the dangers of cookies: "We need to know certain information, but you don't want things to get out of hand so that when you walk into a store, they know everything about you, including your shoe size."

Cookies are part of the technology that Gather and other web sites use that enables people to search on specific search terms, such as the specifics you list in your profile.

As Tim himself said, ‘you don't want to walk into a store and they know everything about you, including your shoe size.'

On your profile on Gather and anywhere you go on the Internet  - always be aware that what you post may be visible to anyone or everyone who chances upon the Internet.

If you don't want your hometown or home state known, leave that out. Same with schools or any other information you may consider too specific.

I use my real name. I have a number of publications under my real name and wanted to use my real name, for that reason. Over the summer, some of my cousins found me, as did some old college buds. I am very glad they found me.

Enjoy the Web and the Internet but be aware that the world's 6 billion people may see what you post.

Or not. But the chance is always there.

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Comments: 204 ( 1 removed by Kathryn E. )

JoAnn C. Oct 21, 2007, 11:10pm EDT
thanks for the information - very informative
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Larry H. Oct 21, 2007, 11:12pm EDT
thanks for sharing
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dee b. Oct 21, 2007, 11:16pm EDT
interesting trivia
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Dan Walter Oct 21, 2007, 11:17pm EDT
Someone ought to email the URL to this article to Al Gore. :O)

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If you see my widgets it means you got a "10" :O)
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Kathryn E. Oct 21, 2007, 11:18pm EDT
Dan, pour Al Gore - looks like he still has not outlived that faux pas.
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Larry H. Oct 21, 2007, 11:19pm EDT
Al Gore will say he did.
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Kathryn E. Oct 21, 2007, 11:20pm EDT
Probably so, Larry. But at least he has something substantial to add to his resume. I resspect him greatly for his work on An Inconvenient Truth.
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Edward Nudelman Oct 21, 2007, 11:21pm EDT
great stuff, and answers many bewildering questions. .. but I still love the ones with chocolate chips in them!
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Denise B. Oct 21, 2007, 11:28pm EDT
wow that was a lot of information to process, thanks for all of it though!!
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Kathryn E. Oct 21, 2007, 11:28pm EDT
Ed, yep everyone's favorites! Mine too!

k anne, it is amazing, yes.
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Todd L Oct 21, 2007, 11:29pm EDT
KEO....
Outstanding article as always.....And some great information, I had no idea about some of this stuff!!!

Thanks for sharing this with us!

Todd
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Kathryn E. Oct 21, 2007, 11:29pm EDT
I especially like the story about the threads for the spiders...do you think Tim's mother was influential on this man when he was a child, in forming a Web?????????//
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Elsie Duggan Oct 21, 2007, 11:29pm EDT
I love this Kathryn, but had to laugh because all while I was reading it I was looking for Al Gores name too, Excuse me but it is so funny. very informative article, I am still laughing, I have heard him make that claim so many times. I like the chocolate chip ones too and know all about cookies and hate that they can be used to track you but hey, that is technology isn't it, it keeps advancing. My poetry is global, lol, I can't help it I find this so funny, not your article, just something tickling my fancy here, remembering what my husband used to say. Thanks Kathryn, I know this wasn't meant to be funny.. I think I may be tired.
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Kathryn E. Oct 21, 2007, 11:30pm EDT
Toddie and others, I used to write nearly exclusively about these funny, neon-silicone boxes, but now my heart has gone to

creative writing...
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Jerri H. Oct 21, 2007, 11:31pm EDT
Very informative Kathryn....THANKS!
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John Philipp Oct 21, 2007, 11:33pm EDT
Fascinating article, Kathryn. I knew a few of the pieces and was using the net before the web but I didn't know the rest of the story. Thanks.

Was working today on a humor piece tentatively titled "My computer's got cookies." If I post it I'll reference this article for the real story.
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Kathryn E. Oct 21, 2007, 11:34pm EDT
I knew Al Gore would surface again so I decided to leave that to the readers rather than insert his presence up front.
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Kathryn E. Oct 21, 2007, 11:35pm EDT
John: Got milk? Gotta have milk witchyr cookies~~~
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Marilyn M. Oct 21, 2007, 11:36pm EDT
And here I thought Al Gor invented it...and was now busy eating all the cookies.

Thanks, Kathryn. Quite informative.
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Kathryn E. Oct 21, 2007, 11:36pm EDT
Elsie, I am so tired I can barely see...I am on LIVE Chat with my ISP because my email is not sending.
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Darshana P. Oct 21, 2007, 11:37pm EDT
Thanks for your information. will be very useful!
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Dennis S. Oct 21, 2007, 11:39pm EDT
Thanks for info and taking the time to write it.
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Debby O. Oct 21, 2007, 11:43pm EDT
Thanks for all the info!
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Sam C. Oct 21, 2007, 11:48pm EDT
Enjoyed this read Kathryn, thanks for sharing this with us
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Teresa W. Oct 21, 2007, 11:49pm EDT
Very informative article! Thank you for all the information!!
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Marta Stephens Oct 21, 2007, 11:49pm EDT
I remember the day I was told at work that I could "e-mail" someone in another office. LOL Thought that was amazing ... and not so long ago. Look at us now!
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Gigi K. Oct 21, 2007, 11:49pm EDT
Fabulous piece on the background of the Web and cookies. I found it interesting and informative as well. Thanks!
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Fred Kidd Oct 21, 2007, 11:49pm EDT
Ah, non-fiction at it's finest! (BTW - Al was Tim's sponsor at Oxford - hence, Al not only helped invent the Internet, he was The Father of the Internet) .... nyuk,nyuk, nyuk nyuk ... (slap!!) OOOh!
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Steve S. Oct 21, 2007, 11:50pm EDT
I have emailed with one of the Web pioneers from the 60's, he is amused to get fan emails from people like me. LoL
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Kathryn E. Oct 21, 2007, 11:54pm EDT
oh my, you all are just SO bad!!! must be Sunday night with the Red Sox!!!
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Kathryn E. Oct 21, 2007, 11:54pm EDT
even with email, I still used what Ken Olsen called "sneaker net" a lot.
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A R. Oct 21, 2007, 11:57pm EDT
WOW!! That took a lot of research!!
Thank you for sharing it with us. :)
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Sheila Deeth Oct 21, 2007, 11:58pm EDT
Fascinating. Thanks for the all the information. And the warning.
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Kathryn E. Oct 21, 2007, 11:58pm EDT
NEWSFLASH RED SOX TAKE PENNANT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sherrie H. Oct 21, 2007, 11:58pm EDT
Very interesting.
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Kathryn E. Oct 21, 2007, 11:58pm EDT
And on my official birthday, now that it is the 22! that means...I cannot say it because I am superstitious
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Kathryn E. Oct 21, 2007, 11:59pm EDT
A lot of this I have known for a long time. Had to do some fact checking...
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Elizabeth Madrigal Oct 22, 2007, 12:00am EDT
Kathryn, your subject matter is always amazing. This particular piece filled in a lot of blanks for me and made me realize that I was not the technical slacker I assumed I was. Of course, having a 12-year-old hacker in the family in the early 90's helped a bit.:)

Wonderful article. I never know what to expect on your end which makes your writing doubly fascinating and always well worth the read! So what did Al Gore actually do? I admire him as well for An Inconvenient Truth, along with the rest of the world, but I assume he had some connection?
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Lawrence J, H. Oct 22, 2007, 12:07am EDT
I'm A COOKIE MONSTER
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elizabeth e. Oct 22, 2007, 12:11am EDT
Nice write-up....learned something new tonight.
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elizabeth e. Oct 22, 2007, 12:12am EDT
And just think when they won the pennant in '67 that led to my suspension from college for a week!
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Kathryn E. Oct 22, 2007, 12:13am EDT
Elizabeth and others: Here is the transcript of Gore's mispoken words. Gore with Wolf Blittzer, CNN, 1999.

Transcript: Vice President Gore on CNN's 'Late Edition'

BLITZER: I want to get to some of the substance of domestic and international issues in a minute, but let's just wrap up a little bit of the politics right now.

Why should Democrats, looking at the Democratic nomination process, support you instead of Bill Bradley, a friend of yours, a former colleague in the Senate? What do you have to bring to this that he doesn't necessarily bring to this process?

GORE: Well, I will be offering -- I'll be offering my vision when my campaign begins. And it will be comprehensive and sweeping. And I hope that it will be compelling enough to draw people toward it. I feel that it will be.

But it will emerge from my dialogue with the American people. I've traveled to every part of this country during the last six years. During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet.

I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system.
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Kathryn E. Oct 22, 2007, 12:13am EDT
bob - oh yes, you were such a baddie! And I am glad you were.
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maryanne r. Oct 22, 2007, 12:13am EDT
Well researched, well written article. You are truly a renaissance woman with knowlege on so many subjects and the ability to share it. I got my first computer in 1989. It was heavy and slow. I wrote several books on Word Perfect 5.0 and hated when I had to let go of DOS and use windows. I now have Windows VISTA and I do not see any improvement. I wish I could have stayed with Word Perfect 5.).
Thanks for sharing Best wishes Maryanne Raphael
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Kathryn E. Oct 22, 2007, 12:17am EDT
More on the Gore-Internet story:

Did Gore invent the Internet?
Salon, Scott Rosenberg, Oct. 5, 2000

"Actually, the vice president never claimed to have done so -- but he did help the Net along. Some people would rather forget that."

Al Gore's support of the Internet, by V.Cerf and B.Kahn [ I second this

Robert Kahn and Vinton Cerf, seconded by Dave Farber, Sep 28 2000


"Bob and I believe that the vice president deserves significant credit for his early recognition of the importance of what has become the Internet."

More debunking of the story:

Al Gore and the Creation of the Internet
First Monday, Richard Wiggins, October 2000


"This article explores how the perception arose that Gore in essence padded his resume by claiming to have invented the Internet. We will then explore Gore's actual record, in particular as a U.S. Senator in the late 1980s, as an advocate for high-speed national networking.

Finally we will examine this case as an example of the trivialization of discourse and debate in American politics."
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Cathy N. Oct 22, 2007, 12:17am EDT
There is some incorrect information in your article. I worked with many of the guys who worked at CERN alongside Sir Tim Berners-Lee. The first graphical user interface (GUI)browser was titled Mosaic. This later became Netscape. I have worked with Defense Agencies and the Department of Energy since 1983. ARPANET was the first network of computers. We used protocols such as FTP (file transfer protocol) to transfer files from one computer to another on a secure network. At that time, there were only mainframe computers. The portable computer (PC) had not been invented yet.

HTML (hypertext markup language) is a subset of SGML, which I started using in 1987. The ladies and gentleman that I worked with during my career were involved at the Physics Research Computing facilities at Fermilab, CERN, SSC, and SLAC. They came up with the first real-time application of teleconferencing on a PC, Mac, and UNIX machine and invented the Web camera.

Funny that I know what DECnet is, it was used on a VAX computer. We had IBM 360s and 370s and a Vax machine during my early career. As new versions of Mosaic were tested, I was one of the guinea pigs.

I still use SGML, HTML, and now XML everyday in my work and I am back working on military applications. Funny how things stay the same, though also change at the same time.
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Cathi H. Oct 22, 2007, 12:17am EDT
A very informative article. And I am impressed to know that you were part of the W3C back in the early days. Cool!
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Kathryn E. Oct 22, 2007, 12:18am EDT
Maryanne, try to switch back to XP and go with Open Office and Firefox - you will see an improvement. I had a Toshiba in 1989 laptop with WP...I hate WP prefer Word but now we use Open Office, too. Open Office is free, it is Open Source, another thing the Web pioneers wanted to make sure people have so we all are not tied to one vendor if you know what I mean.
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Thomas J. Oct 22, 2007, 12:19am EDT
Very interesting Thank you
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Kathryn E. Oct 22, 2007, 12:20am EDT
Cathy, Mosaic was later. I am talking 1991. Mosaic was developed at Champaign Tim's browser actually was on the First Server at CERN in 1991, NEXTcube.
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Kathryn E. Oct 22, 2007, 12:21am EDT
Cathy, I reference SGML obliquely when I mentioned that Dave developed HTML out of an earlier markup language at HP. I used SGML in 1978 on Atex in the newspaper business.
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Ginger C. Oct 22, 2007, 12:22am EDT
I didn't know any of this cool, learned something new twice today! Thanks!
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Alisa Kerwood Oct 22, 2007, 12:23am EDT
wonderful thanks
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Kathryn E. Oct 22, 2007, 12:23am EDT
Cathy, your comment ' funny how things stay the same and change at the same time- that is so true - as the backbone of technology is laid, that stays the same but the ease of use and functionality improves over that basic technology.

We used DECnet at IDG - one office where I was - with the MicroVAX host.
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P.W. Dowdy Oct 22, 2007, 12:25am EDT
I love learning from articles of this nature. Thank you for bringing this lesson to my attention.
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Tory H. Oct 22, 2007, 12:31am EDT
Quite informative!
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Melissa O. Oct 22, 2007, 12:41am EDT
WOW, I had no idea AMAZING!
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Kathryn E. Oct 22, 2007, 12:42am EDT
As of 1998, most people thought the Web was invented by Netscape and Microsoft.....
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Carol Roach Oct 22, 2007, 12:43am EDT
very informative thank you.
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Susan E. Oct 22, 2007, 12:50am EDT
Interesting article. Cookies are evil, unless they are chocolate chip, that is!
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Kathryn E. Oct 22, 2007, 12:52am EDT
I got involved with the W3C at MIT through a book I had copyedited, Raggett on HTML 4.0, Second Edition, by Dave Raggett, Jenny Lam et al, Addison-Wesley Longman, 1998.
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Jennine D. Oct 22, 2007, 12:58am EDT
Well that is interesting. I knew some but a lot I didn't. I am glad my mom did not like spider or string things to help them UGH Hate them ugly creatures. So that is why the internet is called the web instead of ant hill or some such. LOL.
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Kathryn E. Oct 22, 2007, 1:04am EDT
I would like to direct your attention to an article a dear friend of mine wrote,

An interview with Kathryn Esplin-Oleski
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Sunnye T. Oct 22, 2007, 1:05am EDT
Kathryn -- you're the perfect person to ask this question. I've been trying to remember the name of one of the first Internet forums. It was sponsored by GE back in the early-to-mid 90s. I'm thinking it was called "Genie" but I'm not certain. I do remember what an unusual and fun experience it was back then though.

Great article. Thanks so much.
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Ron B. Oct 22, 2007, 1:06am EDT
Good article Kathryn. I found Usenet before the Internet and I still enjoy a number of newsgroups. Usenet or Usernet has also improved along with helper programs to compress, translate, cross platforms and hopefully open files. I much prefer the Internet which is a long way from old BBS.
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Col. George W. Oct 22, 2007, 1:06am EDT
I looked up Computers in World Book Encyclopedia and got a whole different history than what Wick. has. The first electronic computer was invented in `1939 by John V. Atanasoff, an American. In 1945 J. Presper Eckert Jr and John William Mauchly (U of Pennsylvania) completedd one of the earliest general-purpose electronic digital computers.

The PC was introduced in 1975. In 1977 Apple Computers introduced the Apple II pc.

In 1975 Bill Gates and Paul Allen founded Microsoft Corp. In 1981 IBM entered the field and used Microsoft's developing program.

All of these people were/are American.
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Christine Zibas Oct 22, 2007, 1:10am EDT
I have to agree with Cathy on her points. I was in San Francisco in the late 1980s and early 1990s when the Internet came to the fore (I was working for a multimedia company; it seemed like every day was Christmas with all the stunning developments). I think you underplay the importance of Netscape too. Otherwise, great article!
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Kathryn E. Oct 22, 2007, 1:15am EDT
Colonel, your information is good but that is not the Internet/Web revolution. Of course, Apple, Microsoft, Netscape and hundreds of other companies are part of the W3C.

The Manchester Mark I was significant for other reasons in 1949.
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Mark Lange Oct 22, 2007, 1:17am EDT
Who would of thunk? Quite an interesting article! BTW, I wear a size 15! LOL
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Kathryn E. Oct 22, 2007, 1:19am EDT
Christine, I was involved in the era at that time, too. Fabulous time - we were all waiting for the live linking and the changes that the Euro would bring. But what Tim and his cohorts did was unprecendented.

Netscape was important in that it was the first commercial company to offer what it did - in a big way; however, the product was lousy and the company nearly went under until Netscape Navigator underwent major changes, all of which occured through the standards-process at the W3C later on. Mosaic was much later than Tim's www browser.

Btw, we all connect to the www browser every time we log on...It is an invisible browser, but the WorldWideWeb browser is the embedded protocol in the web address, the part that is no longer necessary....

the first server was Daemon, the first protocol was httpd://www......
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Kathryn E. Oct 22, 2007, 1:20am EDT
Mark, you are a legend in the shoe kingdom.
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Kathryn E. Oct 22, 2007, 1:21am EDT
Sunnye: GENIE - General Electric Network for Information Exchange

GENIE
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Kathryn E. Oct 22, 2007, 1:23am EDT
Ron: USEnet was great...the foundations that the original Internet/USEnet/forums/BBS systems offered and the FTP protocols, such as Gopher, Archie....was fantastic and laid all the groundwork for the much better system we now have, email, forums, and basically, Web 2.0 Web Communities...
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Holly J. Oct 22, 2007, 1:30am EDT
I remember, before the internet was publicly avaliable, trying to find or discover it. My parents had an old commadore 64 that came with a ton of books, and they bought more. I was a child. I hooked up and used that computer, and learned everything I could about it in all the books, and computers in general. One book vaguly mentioned being able to connect with people on other computers, and with reasearch, I learned that they did not mean hooking two computers to each other, like in the same house or something. I never could find the darn thing, the internet or web or whatever. Then one day... POW, I found it, even though I had tried the same things I had been trying every single day since I first read about it. Things are SO much different now days!!!
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Kathryn E. Oct 22, 2007, 1:34am EDT
Holly: FTP - great stuff though clunky....
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subroto s s. Oct 22, 2007, 1:43am EDT
Thanks Kathryn for popularizing my "interview". But now I have another problem! I have to add PART IV to the interview, to find out how you acquired so much computer knowledge!!
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wayne c. Oct 22, 2007, 2:11am EDT
Good article.I never did believe that Al Gore invented the internet. I do try to keep personalinformation off the web, butI think it's a hopeless task. But thanks for reminding me.
Wayne
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Wil B. Oct 22, 2007, 2:23am EDT
Great article, Kathryn. I can still remember the first time I accessed the web, back in 1994 using Lynx instead of Mosaic. And here's my confession -- I thought it was cool, but that it probably wouldn't catch on. At the time, I preferred the Gopher protocol, and thought it had a lot more potential than "the web". Doh!
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Beverly T. Oct 22, 2007, 2:30am EDT
Excellent recap of major events, major players in the development of the www! It's amazing how much has happened in such a short time!


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The Connection Between Mood Disorders and Creativity

Part 3 Mood, Thoughts and Creativity
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Lela M. Oct 22, 2007, 2:42am EDT
Great article.
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Tyson J. Oct 22, 2007, 2:50am EDT
Awesome. Thanks for this. Just a quick question. How did you get the consulting job? It's so cool that you were in on the "ground level" (almost) and shaped some of the lingo we use today!
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Maureen Sullivan Stemberg Oct 22, 2007, 3:35am EDT
KEO, great article...I am having a problems with cookies and beyond..call me..ox ~mozy
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Emma L. Oct 22, 2007, 4:53am EDT
Great article, thank you!
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Kathryn E. Oct 22, 2007, 5:15am EDT
I got the consulting gig because I had copyedited a book about HTML written by some of the people at the W3C...Which I got through people I knew...which I got because I am always gadding about...which...etc....

I was in what is known as marketing communications - writing end editing newsletters and press releases for the member companies of the W3C - and doing press relations, moderating interviews - TV and print - here and in Australia - for the annual conference....it was fun...
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Kathryn E. Oct 22, 2007, 5:17am EDT
Subroto, I got all this 'so-called 'computer knowledge' simply by doing what I love - being at the computer - I used computers since I was at the Globe and Mail - technically, it was a computer we used - but one dedicated to the specialized needs of the news business. And we had to code in SGML which is exactly what I am doing now except it is in HTML.
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Kathryn E. Oct 22, 2007, 5:19am EDT
Hello Mo-zy- thank you, my dear...we will talk....
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Magi the magical poet is riding the wind again Oct 22, 2007, 5:35am EDT
Kathryn, I've learned a swag of things that I didn't know. Thank you very much for that.
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Kathryn E. Oct 22, 2007, 5:39am EDT
swag - thanks for making my morning, dear Magi.

Top of the morning to ya ! Now I am off to work...
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Rose T. Oct 22, 2007, 6:18am EDT
Katheryn, excellent info. thanks for an informative read with my morning coffee.
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jackie s. Oct 22, 2007, 6:45am EDT
This was a great read. Very informative and an easy read. Keep up the excellent work.
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John F Walter Oct 22, 2007, 6:45am EDT
Great article, Kathryn. I had no idea you consulted for the W3C. I learned so much from this piece. For me it was especially interesting that the code for Netscape (it was Mosaic back then, right?) was written in such a short time. That does explain a lot. Fascinating piece, Berner Lee´s comment, ¨'you don't want to walk into a store and they know everything about you, including your shoe size.'¨seems so prophetic now in nindsight.
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Tab B. Oct 22, 2007, 6:54am EDT
Kathryn, Wow! Very interesting and informative! I am glad I stopped by to read it.

We've come a long way, Baby! (in such a short time!!!)
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Tab B. Oct 22, 2007, 7:00am EDT
And now, after reading of your interview, I had to come back here to say:

Happy Birthday! {{{Hugs, Kathryn!}}}
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John B. Oct 22, 2007, 7:08am EDT
Lots of good Info Kathryn. Yes anything you post to the web can be seen by so many. I have been working with computers for years. I started in 1983 and all we had was BBS sights and very few of those. Later I worked with local web providers to set up POP sights. We sure have come a long ways!!!
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Ashley B. Oct 22, 2007, 7:10am EDT
very informative
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donna h. Oct 22, 2007, 7:48am EDT
good info
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Jane Y. Oct 22, 2007, 7:58am EDT
great article
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Skip Bleecker Oct 22, 2007, 8:21am EDT