Nanny State Alert: Calif. bans smoking in cars

I agree that is going way too far!
It is so stupid they put more regs and taxes on smokers, than they do on drinkers who actually kill more people and have more diseases than smokers actually do.

I agree, but I'm afraid that's not going to happen. There seem to be far too many people (good little liberals) that are all too willing to turn their freedoms over to the state. In the case of smoking – they just whine that they don't like the smell. I've tried fighting the discrimination here in Florida. It's maddening.

When I had a small child and smoked, I was wise enough to not smoke in the car, or even in the house. But it surely would have bugged me if the government had told me not to.

What people - the whiners who want the government to fix this stinky and unhealthy problem - don't realize is that every time we allow the government to control more of our lives, it opens up even more doors for them to control something else. They're the same people, though, who when their own rights are taken will be screaming. Can't have it both ways.

Yes, it certainly is too bad that the state is trying to protect the health of developing children. Boo on them!

Heather

It is not the job of government to run everything in our lives. Personal Responsibility goes a long way

And yet, with people smoking around children, they show a serious lack of responsibility. Since a majority of children have at least 1 parent who smokes, and a majority of smokers refuse to acknowledge that the 2nd hand smoke they create is damaging to the health of those around them, I think it's a safe bet that a majority of kids are being harmed by it.

I fully understand that a ban like this could lead to further bans on what we can and can not do. However, leaving it up to an irresponsible selfish parent to not smoke in front of their kids isn't going to happen.

It should be illegal to smoke in the presence of any child, your own or not. I grew up in a family where just about every single person smoked. I had colds all the time. I reeked of smoke without knowing it. I had a much lower immune system. I was rather well in shape from dance, cheerleading, gymnastics, and track, but was out of breath way too easily for someone who was in "good health". I had bronchial infections several times.

The argument lacks punch with me that parents should shoulder the responsibility.

I won't even get into welfare parents who smoke around their children, causing health problems that the state has to go in and fix for them.

Heather, the "facts" about the effects of second hand smoke, are just more scams to get more restrictions and taxes passed on a non-existant problem. Why not go after parents that do drugs like they do parents that smoke? Why not go after drinkers who actually kill more people than smokers ever will.
Becasuse simpletons who are willing to be lead around by their nose rings, let people tell them what to think.

Spoken like a true smoker, Dan.

I'd love to go after parents who drink and drive with kids, or do drugs around kids, or any number of stupid things. Don't take my stance AGAINST smokers to mean I wouldn't support other idiocy as well, because I would.

Smokers stand by the stance that 2nd hand smoke is harmless. Yet, countless studies show otherwise. Children of smokers are more often sick than children of non-smokers. There IS a direct correlation that smokers are too selfish to see.

Studies done independantly by several groups of people, spanning decads, are all a scam? Where's the scam, Dan? Did Elvis tell them to do it? Were there little green men involved in a huge global scam telling us what 2nd hand smoke does?

Honestly, if you could show me countless studies NOT conducted by cigarette companies OR smokers that support the theory that second hand smoke is harmless, then I'm willing to listen.

But the rant from smokers that it's harmless does little to sway my opinion.

Heather said; "Smokers stand by the stance that 2nd hand smoke is harmless. Yet, countless studies show otherwise. Children of smokers are more often sick than children of non-smokers. There IS a direct correlation that smokers are too selfish to see."

Find me one independant study that will support that. Because only the anti-smoker groups have been able to. The studies done without support from either side, have nver been able to prove that. It has gotten to the point that now if a study using government funds cannot prove that smoking is dangerous, they have to repay their funding back. What this means is that the truth is being blocked so that the government can keep getting this money from the smokiers without any honest proof that there is even a serious problem. THe independant studies have not been able to find more than an estimated +/- 3% increase on these disease beyond what we already knew about them following family lines. Asprine has a high health risk than that does and it is sold without question.
No not like a "true Smoker" but someone that has done their research.

This has been the law for truck drivers for quite a while. They are not allowed to smoke in their trucks because that is their "office" place. It is also their home since they are out there on the road for so long!

Leave it to California to come up with another BS nanny law.

In MY car I will smoke if I want to. I am sick and tired of all of the BS concernig smoking and especially "2d hand smoke" The "facts" have been skewed by the no smoking lobby. Medical testimony says that the lungs are "self cleaning" and the effects of smoking will clear up. If that's the case how can occasional exposure to second hand smoke harm anyone. don't stand up to reason.

If a person smokes and has any ailment they mark it down as caused by smoking. This is not always the case. I have COPD caused by Asbestos but can't get a test for that because I smoke. That is very dangerous because I could develop Mesotheolomia from the asbestos.

Michelle, I don't think that is a law at all. I know a lot of truck drivers and it has never been mentioned to me.

And don't forget the fat tax. To punish people who are overweight, you will be tax yearly at $1.00 a pound that you are overweight.

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Heather can you show one death certificate that lists second hand smoke as the cause of death?

BTW Heather you can't regulate stupidity. If we could DC would be a ghost town.

And thats spoken like a true non smoker.

People don't have to worry about GWB taking over the nannies are going to "take care" of us till we can't move or leave the bed because we might get hurt.

I wonder if this is going to hold up in court. Since your car is considered an extension of your home.

Another question. What are they going to do about all those 'under 18' drivers when they light up?