Another Case of Democratic Corruption and Earmarking, and guess what Murtha is involved in this one too.

I must've missed something here. Where exactly is the "corruption," and what do you mean that "Murtha was involved in this one too?"

The corruption is house rules say you cant earmark for a company that your family owns or has intrest in. His family owned company took the money and did not provide the deliverable. Murtha helped aquire the earmark. Murtha has a long history of unethical earmarking.

Evie-

Glad we agree on this point

A company fails to deliver paid for goods, is corrupt. Murtha was involved in funneling funds to it. Not sure why you can't see the connection Clark.

Well you all need to move to Murtha's district and boot him the hell out of office or you could just continue to make stuff up and get rid of him as with Max Cleland another decorated war hero.

Although it is painfully obvious that you care not one bit for our soldiers past or present.

Don he was a good soldier, but he is a corrupt congressman. He should not get a pass just because he did good things once.

I agree. No one should get a pass if they are corrupt.

this is getting rediculous.. im so over both parties. Im beginning to think they are all basically the same thing. I think our government has turned into a gigantic fraud.

Another One! But will we see it on the News Channels - no. I agree, he shouldn't get a pass now.

Example: Larry Craig?
He's going to hurt the GOP really bad. If your Left, the Media become 3 Blind Mice.

The Dems point fingers while stuffing bribe money in the freezers and funnel money to family buisnesses

You and your source story certainly led me on an interesting search. There is a high pressure water pump involved, it is a JET SKI pump, and the story says it is worth several million dollars. Cornerstone Technologies LLC Has filed bankruptcy, listing a few thousand dollars in assets and debt of less than two million dollars. Again the numbers just deem a little off to me. Murtha was involved on the committee that is supposed to have have provided the funds for this alleged 6 million dollar jet ski pump, But, that was not for the contractor, it was for the Navy, which is not asking Cornerstone Technologies to return or deliver the pump, Perhaps because Cornerstone Technologies LLC is a software company.

That is a little revisonist there Karl

"The U.S. Navy wants a business owned by the family of Rep. Paul E. Kanjorski to hand over a piece of high-tech equipment bought with some of the $9.25 million in taxpayer funds Kanjorski steered to the company."

karl a lot of what you say is just false.

It was not a jetski pump. It was part of a prototype water-jet mill. The company was founded by Kanjorski in the 1990s because of his use of jetski motors for other purposes. It was not a software company it was a development company.

No the earmark for specifically for the company and was provided by Murtha

So when do they prosecute the felony?

Don - I don't understand your post at all. What does being an ex soldier have to do with anything? I get the impression you think just because someone served in the armed services gives him a pass on breaking the law.

How much does a Representitive cost these days? Does a Senitor cost more? Is there a price sheet somewhere that I could browse through?

I just want the whole US Government cleaned out and started anew with all fresh young faces who do not have big business backgrounds and large amounts of money.

That would be great when do we start

" The corruption is house rules say you cant earmark for a company that your family owns or has intrest in. "

I wonder what this means then?

"In July 2003, the U.S. attorney declined to prosecute because "there was no evidence of a federal crime," according to the report, which concludes: "No further investigative activity will occur."

Bear in mind, that this is the highly politicized, fraudulent DOJ we're talking about here, that is programmed to only seek out and attack democrats for anything and everything that they can find. I wonder why they chose to do nothing?

Seems to me as though there are some republiCONs who're feeling stung from being part of the most corrupt political apparatus to ever mismanage a government, and they're grasping at straws to demonize others.

House rules apply to house members conduct. He should be removed from the house for an ethics violation.

" House rules apply to house members conduct. He should be removed from the house for an ethics violation."

It doesn't look like there's anything here, actually. Keep praying, though.

It looks like a lot, but of course the democrats wont do anything. It is too easy to point at republicans as their own party stuffs freezers with bribe money. Dems dont even kick out those convicted for bribery. What a joke!

Clark sees nothing here, but does see bush behind 9/11 I think that says EVERYTHING

Let's not forget that Republicans sit on the same committee as Murtha. It was not Murtha's single handed operation here. Distorting the truth just to malign someone is not acceptable.

I did not distort anything joe. Murtha is famous for his earmarks. He is one of the "10 most corrupt members of congress" according to a watchdog group.

I think when they get caught with their hands in the cookie jar, they should have to pay back every penny. No wonder our taxes are so high, and the Dems want to continue raising them, They bitch and complain about the cost of war in Iraq, but yet feel it is ok to rip off the US taxpayers in other ways, but you dont hear them complain about one of their own.

" It looks like a lot, but of course the democrats wont do anything."

No, actually it doesn't look like much at all, which is undoubtedly why the republiCON DOJ walked away from it.



"It is too easy to point at republicans"

The culture of corruption remains unmatched as the superior pinnacle of corruption, sexual deviancy and perversion, and criminal behavior. Sorry. Facts is facts.




"as their own party stuffs freezers with bribe money. Dems dont even kick out those convicted for bribery."

Last time I checked, democrats booted Jefferson from his chair position the moment news of his investigation came out. You might want to re-check your facts again. Your usual suspect, right wing sources of misinformation seem to have forgotten to fill you in on all of the juicy details.



"What a joke!"

No kidding. Faced with an unending parade of corrupt, criminal republiCON politicians, the truly desperate have begun scratching and digging desperately for ANYTHING that they can find to divert attention. What better way to "prove" the innocence of your own than to find SOMETHING, ANYTHING on your opponent?

Sad and pathetic. This is exactly the type of sad behavior that one has to resort to when one marries oneself to a political party instead of anchoring on values and principles.





"Distorting the truth just to malign someone is not acceptable."

Unfortunately, it's all that some have.

I give. What Murtha?

(Sorry for the repeat. I gave you credit for a first name on the other comment.)

Clark if you are convicted of bribery you should be booted from you seat in congress. They wont do that the culture of corruption is the democrats the only thing they can find on most Republicans is that one cheats on his wife and the other taps his foot in the bathroom. I am more concerned with the members on the take and most of them happen to be democrats

Just who has been co9nvicted of bribery ?

Convicted , man I hate this keyboard.

Well ????????????????????

I'm waiting............................

Oh well I'm outta here..........

sorry i meang indicted. Jefferson will be found guilty they have him on tape and now his aide has turned on him and wil testify after pleading guilty. Come on they should remove this scumbag

" Clark if you are convicted of bribery you should be booted from you seat in congress."

That's one reason why so many republiCONs are no longer in congress. What democrat has been convicted recently?




"They wont do that the culture of corruption is the democrats the only thing they can find on most Republicans is that one cheats on his wife and the other taps his foot in the bathroom."

Inventing "facts" once again, I see. Convenient for you. Yeah, the "only" thing that republiCONs ever do wrong is cheating on their wives (I thought this used to be an impeachable offense?) and tapping their shoes. Keep sniffing the glue, monkey.




" sorry i meang indicted."

Jefferson was removed from his chair position the moment that the democrats learned that he was under investigation, you fool. Stop inventing your own version of reality. You're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own set of facts.




"Jefferson will be found guilty"

Maybe. Maybe not. It would certainly seem that a partisan, political version of the DOJ would've brought an indictment against him FAR sooner than the 2 years that they waited to do so, if they actually had something worth pursuing. Based upon what we know about the fraudulent DOJ at this point, it seems entirely likely that this will turn out to be yet another fraudulent case brought against a democrat, for the sole purpose of damaging him politically. Time will tell, but at this point, it really doesn't look good at all for the republiCON DOJ.




"Come on they should remove this scumbag"

Yes. Every time a highly partisan, fraudulent, politically charged DOJ even so much as brings forth an allegation against any democrat, he should immediately be removed from office without any trial whatsoever.

Fruitcake.

Clark are you saying Jefferson is inocent. Come on his own aide plead quilty and is testifying against him. He was caught on tape accepting the bribe and they seized the money in his freezer. He was fine to stay until the federal grand jury indicted him and it is clear this guy is on the take.

Jefferson hasn't had his day in court but I think you are probably right MDP. But, what is your point, exactly?

If Jefferson is ever indeed tried and convicted , he should be expelled and jailed.

No representative should be above the law , but accusations and innuendo are no reason to destroy someone's good name.

By the way Jefferson is a piece of work .

My point is this Joe, Why is it okay to talk all day about sex and not okay to talk about corrupt members of congress who are stealing our money

It is only okay to talk about sex with those prudes amongst us who insist that sex is a dirty thing. As to Jefferson - he hasn't been found guilty yet.

I dont care about who cheats on their wife and who might be bi-sexual, I wish they would just drop it. Lets kick out all the corrupt members. Right now that looks like a bi-partisan list Stephens, Jefferson, Murtha and Kanjorski

" Clark are you saying Jefferson is inocent."

Has he been proven guilty? If not, then in this country, he is innocent. Why don't we wait for the trial before we execute the man? Personally, I believe that he may well be found guilty, but until that day arrives, he's been under investigation and has been indicted. Nothing more. The democrats did the right thing by removing him from his chair position immediately after they learned that he was under investigation. Regardless of whether or not he's found guilty, no politician should hold a powerful chair position while under investigation for something so serious.




" My point is this Joe, Why is it okay to talk all day about sex and not okay to talk about corrupt members of congress who are stealing our money"

Good point. RepubliCONs impeached Clinton for having a tawdry affair with his intern, yet investigations into massive corruption surrounding the likes of Jack Abramhoff and Duke Cunningham, among many, many others, simply seems to be an untouchable subject.




"Right now that looks like a bi-partisan list Stephens, Jefferson, Murtha and Kanjorski"

Actually, it doesn't appear that there's much going on with Kanjorski and Murtha, beyond wishful thinking from republicans, desperately attempting to pretend that democrats are just as corrupt as they are.

Touche, Clark. In the end, the Republicans are the ones stealing our money and defrauding the American public. It's too bad that so many are so blind to the truth.

Disgusting.