For Raiders' fans Tom and Jason: nice guys choosing the wrong team.
Oakland is known for many things.
The famed Mormon Temple
Downtown Oakland is thriving and absolutely beautiful. 
Not shown, are the renovated Victorians of West Oakland
Then there's the famous Port of Oakland
And of course the McAfee Coliseum, home of the famed, 
Oakland Raiders:
The Oakland Raiders -- Eastern Time
1 Sun, Sep 9 Detroit FOX 4:15 PM
2 Sun, Sep 16 at Denver CBS 4:15 PM
3 Sun, Sep 23 Cleveland CBS 4:05 PM
4 Sun, Sep 30 at Miami CBS 1:00 PM
5 BYE WEEK
6 Sun, Oct 14 at San Diego CBS 4:15 PM
7 Sun, Oct 21 Kansas City CBS 4:05 PM
8 Sun, Oct 28 at Tennessee CBS 1:00 PM
9 Sun, Nov 4 Houston CBS 4:15 PM
10 Sun, Nov 11 ChicagoFOX 4:15 PM
11 Sun, Nov 18 at Minnesota CBS 1:00 PM
12 Sun, Nov 25 at Kansas City CBS 1:00 PM
13 Sun, Dec 2 DenverCBS 4:05 PM14 Sun, Dec 9 at Green BayCBS 1:00 PM
15 Sun, Dec 16 Indianapolis CBS 4:05 PM
16 Sun, Dec 23 at Jacksonville CBS 1:00 PM
17 Sun, Dec 30 San Diego CBS 4:15 PM
But will they be able to contend with . . .
The Baltimore Ravens (True Champions) 
1 Mon, Sep 10 at Cincinnati ESPN 7:00 PM
2 Sun, Sep 16 NY Jets CBS 4:15 PM
3 Sun, Sep 23 Arizona FOX 1:00 PM
4 Sun, Sep 30 at Cleveland CBS 1:00 PM
5 Sun, Oct 7 at San Francisco CBS 4:15 PM
6 Sun, Oct 14 St. Louis FOX 1:00 PM
7 Sun, Oct 21 at Buffalo CBS 1:00 PM
8 BYE WEEK
9 Mon, Nov 5 at Pittsburgh ESPN 8:30 PM
10 Sun, Nov 11 Cincinnati CBS 4:05 PM
11 Sun, Nov 18 Cleveland CBS 1:00 PM
12 Sun, Nov 25 at San Diego CBS 4:15 PM
13 Mon, Dec 3 New England ESPN 8:30 PM
14 Sun, Dec 9 Indianapolis NBC 8:15 PM
15 Sun, Dec 16 at Miami CBS 1:00 PM
16 Sun, Dec 23 at Seattle CBS 4:15 PM
17 Sun, Dec 30 Pittsburgh
(Hey, Oakland -- you had better be happy you don't have to face Baltimore in the regular season -- yeah?)
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My computer system is haywire, but someone is working on it for me. To answer your question in a nutshell -- they will beat the pants OFF the Raiders. As much of a Raiders fan as Tom is, even he will admit that! Ha! Go Ravens>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Now as for the enchilada recipe, I did not get it and was oh, so ready. It didn't come on the email. I looked at the site for Freis (apologize for the spelling, but didn't see it. So where is it? Can you just put it in a comment here? Even football people have to eat. And from the popularity of tail gate parties, many people might love seeing the recipe.
Margieanne's tailgating enchiladas;
http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474977106587
Thanks, Lynn!
You should not work so hard on this football stuff, but you really did a great job of it.
I think you are right. BALT would kill OAK this season, but unless they both win almost all their games they will not play as they are not on each other's schedule. So don't have to worry about THOSE BAD RAVENS!
Note to all who think OAK is a bunch of patsies: OAK D was THIRD in the NFL last season! (just don't ask about their offense or how many points they scored).
The only time I would ever attend a Raiders game would be if it were a re-play of the old Roman coliseum fare, except instead of the lions eating the Christians it would have to be the Detroit Lions tearing the Raiders to shreds; then again Lions do like Bear meat too.
It isn't that we Bay Areans are inhospitable; we are. If you have ever been here before you already know that. I did try to get another Raiders friend of mine to host you, since he is such an avid Raiders fan, enticing him by telling him you would probably be bringing a beautiful woman (your wife) and even then he didn't bite. But, you'll have a good time with whomever. But, at least the weather should be nice in November. Bay Area fans are as wild as any place, but you'll see that. If you get the opportunity, you must, must not leave without getting some of our world famous sourdough bread, and check out -- I nearly choke when I say it, but I must be hospitable -- A.T.&T. Park, right over the Bay Bridge in San Francisco. It's no big deal to me, but I'm told no one should come to the Bay Area without seeing it. I hope your visit is a wonderful one. Which team wins? It can be a toss up, I'll take the Raiders for Tom's, Jason's and the Bay Area's sake. Good luck, Shun!
Hail 49ers!
You are kidding right? No thanks is welcome, and you already know (because of email talks), that fewer people on Gather have been nicer to me than you and you KNOW that. This was a small thing in comparison, Friend. Work? No, a little cut here, a little paste there -- that's all. Thank you for your appreciation, though. Might we dispense with the gooey, and get to the Madden now?
The Raiders -- I can't see much difference between the lineup for this season and last. They were pitiful, no worse than pitiful then and not much better now. I noticed they weren't playing the Ravens. Davis probably paid somebody off for that privilege. You said Oakland was 3rd in the NFL last season? Yes, you had BETTER NOT mention that sorry OFFENSE. They were so offensive that I couldn't recognize any of my Raiders' friends.
"Jerry, is that you? Yes, that is you, but your head is hung so long I couldn't see it."
"Jerome, what's the matter? Did someone in your family die or something?
"Shawn-Shawn, Baby! You got something on your shoes or what? What's down there on your feet?" (6'4" and head nearly down to his feet in SHAME!)
It's called the Blues, Tom. Raiders' fans singing the BLUES!
Jason: (lol) First off, where do I start? I like you, but you are wild. You tell Tom off, tell me off, then you invite me to a Raiders game when you already know I won't go; I don't get it. You're right, K's having a good time with us both.
Okay, I've got it -- lol -- (K, check it out) Jason, you get Isaac Newton to the Raiders game and I'm there too. Period, end of Subject!
Really lol. I don't know if it's because of the tiger image or what, but with every comment you make I hear this James Earl Jones baritone voice behind the words (lol).
LOL LOL LOL. I just bet you WILL take "the Ravens in this one." (lol LOL LOL) tears in my eyes -- it's hysterical. I apologize to Tom and Jason but the Tiger has the eye of the tiger and he's going with Daunte. (lol) lol. Who wouldn't over the Raiders.
I need to sober up for a minute. You talk about his injured knee, but then turn to the defense, what gives? I don't care what anybody says. No one comes back 100% after an injury like that. The fact you brought it up shows Raven vulnerability and an area for the defender to effectively launch attack. It's not supposed to be maliciously done, but we all know -- hah -- that it is.
What did Ohio State's Woody Hayes say, Tom?
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
You don't think those big defensive sacking guys are NOT going to be thinking about that injury,
"Culpepper's a wounded puppy. Let's finish him off."
Hmmm.
Now ... just a minute, I cut myself on these silly spiked boots. Ow...
OK - I'm ready now. Sheesh, I can't talk well with this silly mask on but it LOOKS fierce! Grrr...
Uh-oh, I started to stomp around and I can hardly move! This s.... (ooops I saw you don't like those kind of words) is really heavy! Man, how do those black hole folks do this?
Awright! I got it off and now I'm ready! The Raid- uhs will be BETTER this season! Coach Griffin, Giffin, Stiffen, Kiffin? has got them growling and hungry. Watch out NFL, the Raid-uhs are comin'!! Jerry will be his old self again. Echemandu will resurrect his old CAL crushing runs and folks will wonder WHY he was on the taxi squad for four years...
WEEK 1 is going to be very interesting. Kidding aside on the Raid-uhs and Ravens - New Orleans opens THUR night vs the defending champs - INDY. Go Saints!!
OAK opens at home vs DET - both teams are trying to show they belong in the league. I think OAK may open some eyes on SUN against DET. Go RAID-UHS!!
My RAVENS open up Monday Night Football vs CINCY. Good matchup. GO RAVENS!
Baby, BLACK IS DEFINITELY YOUR COLOR.