
Hello, and welcome to Common Cents, where we discuss topics relevant to those living below the poverty line and other topics that are of importance to those living paycheck to paycheck.
This week, as part of our series, Cents for the Internet, we will be looking at websites that focus on Paid Participation. (Previous articles: 1) Internet Economics, 2) Internet Get-Rich-Quick Schemes.)
All I Have To Do Is Participate and Promote!
You're probably familiar with the concept of a website that gives rewards for participation and promotion - in fact, if you're reading this, you're probably already a member of one. Websites such as Gather.com offer rewards to members who participate in their program (through reading and posting articles), as well as to those who recruit additional members (on the presumption that these members will also actively participate in the site.) These websites offer cash, or a cash equivalent, based on the member's participation in and promotion of the website and its services. But where does this money come from?
Your Ad Here
In short, most web businesses of this sort earn money through their advertisers, who may pay per impression (per time a given advertisement displayed on a page), per click (per time a person actually clicks on the advertisement), per lead (per time a person signs up for their services or website through the advertisement), or per sale (per time a person purchases their services through the advertisement.) Websites earn money from their members because they are reliable sources of impressions, clicks, leads, and sales; casual browsers, on the other hand, are likely to only view a site for a short period of time, and as such are less valuable to the website. The money that is used to pay members for their contributions (both for participation and promotion) generally comes from these advertisements.
Points To Cash
As a general rule, those who participate in a promotion-based website earn credit in an account on the server, which can then be turned in in exchange for actual cash once it reaches a certain point. In Gather's case, this is called the points system; members earn points through their participation and promotion, which can be exchanged for gift cards through their point exchange system, or cash if sufficient earning guidelines are met.
One important thing to note is that a website need not necessarily maintain the monetary value of every member account, nor even be able to come up with the money until a member reaches the point at which they are allowed to cash out their earnings. This means that unscrupulous websites may pull a variation of the Ponzi scheme - paying out members long enough to encourage participation, then abruptly closing their doors and keeping the remaining money for themselves. Obviously, sites that have been open for a long period of time and still manage to distribute rewards in a timely fashion are likely to be able to continue to do so reliably.
15 Cents Per Referral? Sign Me Up!
Most websites that involve some form of financial inducement for participation offer a similar reward for promotions. For example, Gather currently offers a Borders gift card (worth $20) to members who invite and successfully recruit five of their friends to join as members. Most such referral plans involve a certain value assessment on the part of the website's management to determine the net value (to them) of having another member using their services. In cases where a specific number of referrals is required in order to acheive a reward, there is an added value to the website in that members who fall short of this requirement incur no expenses on behalf of the website, while giving the website the benefits of the members thus recruited.
You Can Earn 5% Of Your Downline!
Another common trick to be wary of involves websites that offer inducements for referring members, such as offering a percentage of their earnings. This is a multi-level marketing scheme that shows up frequently in activity-based websites, and can only be maintained if the website properly takes these referral bonus percentages into account when figuring out what its users should earn for their activities. Here's how such a plan can go horribly wrong:
Imagine that a fictitious website named MakeMoneyQuick.com earns $1.00 every day from the activities of one of its members (after basic expenses are met), and in return, it pays that member the equivalent of 80 cents in MakeMoneyQuick points, giving it a profit of 20 cents per day. However, it also offers to pay 5% of each member's earnings to its downline (the people that member refers, the people those new members refer, etc.), ten levels deep. In the right circumstances, that member may only receive 80 cents, but the ten people in their upline each receive 4 cents, for a total of $1.20. If all members were to cash out their MakeMoneyQuick points under this structure, MakeMoneyQuick.com would not be able to pay them.
Time is Money
It's an old adage - time is money. Every minute you spend browsing a website is effectively a minute you do not spend on another activity, and as such, time that could effectively be spent in a more profitable or enjoyable activity. I mention this because of one simple and important precept - not every website that offers to pay you for your time spent using their services is actually going to pay you.
Some websites offer fantastic rewards, only to take down your information, sell it to other companies, and never give you anything in return but a mountain of spam in your mailbox and email account. Others offer low rewards and high payouts that may make the effort less than worthwhile (a site that pays one cent for clicking on a link and viewing a webpage for thirty seconds, with a minimum payout of $50.00, would mean that you would have to click on 5,000 webpages, and use up almost 42 hours of free time, just to get that fifty dollars.) Still others have limitations on how and when you can participate - only during certain times, only during an active promotion, and so forth.
All in all, even legitimate sites that pay what and when they say they will may not enrich your life to any significant extent, but if you can find a site that works well and does what they promise, such as Gather, you can reap the rewards with patience and diligence.
Food for Thought:
What experiences have you had with sites that pay you for your participation and promotion? How much time have you spent on these sites, and what returns have you acheived? What is the most money you've never gotten from a website?
Austin Cushing, Money Correspondent:
Austin's column, Common Cents, published every Tuesday to Gather Essentials: Money, is focused on life below the poverty line and other topics that are of importance to those living paycheck to paycheck.
Austin Cushing is an eccentric writer, programmer, poet, and photographer, as well as a former maintenance worker for Wal-Mart Stores, Inc. He writes from personal experience and personal opinion, and enjoys finding the humor in even the darkest aspects of the world. In addition to his column, he maintains Gather groups on a diverse range of topics, from gaming to political discourse.
You can find all of Austin's Common Cents columns at http://commoncents.gather.com. Keep up with Austin's other postings and Gather activity by joining his Gather network -- just click here and select the orange "Connect" button on the left-hand side of the page.


Comments: 94
So never do Freeride is the lesson i learned. luckily i didnt lose any actual money just didnt get something for free:(.
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I currently am active on Gather, My Points, Netwinner, and I write for Associated Content and Helium. I also take surveys for Surveyspot and Opinion Outpost and have been paid by both very promptly. Other than that, alot of the sites I've heard about are a waste of time.
This was a wonderful article. I love gather but I also use other such websites. I use mylot. The first three weeks that I was there, I made $60 cash but have not done that well since then. I shop through ebates to get a percent back on each purchase. I do mypoints and I do agree that they have been slow. I do surveys for cash and gift certificates as well as sample products for cash.
I love Bzzagent. That is where I got information on gather from. I love to try new products and services. I love to talk about the products that I use so buzzagent is perfect for me.
MyPoints
freeride freemail
Send Earnings
Inbox Dollars
Reward Port
Creation Rewards.....just looking at e-mails about $50 each a year...
Send Earnings, Mylot and Inbox Dollars I am close to payment. DUNO and DORMCHECK both scams. Yuwie remains to be seen. Lightspeed.com I just got $15.00 to our pay pal.
Paying sites:
Inbox Dollars - about 200 so far
Reward Port (havent made a cent yet)
My Points - 2-300 in gift cards at various merchants
Surveys from at least 40 different sites. This has earned me close to 8K in the last 4 years plus a lot of merch. and a few gift cettificates.
Thanks
Shah
I also do several survey sites--when I have the time, that is. MyPoints is good for when I am shopping online...might as well earn some points while I shop. My teenage son does surveys for Weekly Reader Insiders and he earns Amazon gift certificates (which he kindly lets me have in exchange for the cash).
Anyone remember Insider Pages and Judy's Book? I participated in those and earned lots of $$--all I had to do was write reviews of local business and I earned Amazon gift certificates and cash. Those were the days...LOL...
I haven't earned anything here on Gather, but get some bucks from survey sites. Mypoints wasn't worth it for me, and neither was Lightspeed. I tried Opinion Outpost for a while, but the "surveys" I got in my inbox were more like sales pitches for the products they "wanted my opinion" on. I quit that one quick!
I use gather, my points & a couple of survey sites. One of the survey sites sends me products to try at home, then comment on, that has been kind of cool. Netwinner sucked for me & I thought it was a waste of my time.
I had used Creations Rewards and received payment to my Pay Pal account without any problems until the last few weeks. I've earned almost 600 points that have not been credited to my account. I emailed them twice, and they blame it on the sites. They say they haven't been notified that I signed up or otherwise took advantage of the offers. I guess I'll just cut my losses and quit wasting my time. If they would have credited what I"m due, I would be eligible for a ten dollar payout. But I think I'll get the five that's available, and resign from this site.
On a positive note, I have NEVER had a problem with My Points. I joined them about five or six years ago, and I always have a few gift cards to use towards Christmas shopping.
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i have tried many sites ...I have almost lost count .have a seprate email account for them that I hardly open ...I love gather and thats the only site that keep me hooked ..and I haven't crossed 3000 points till date .(in 10 months ) but I was never here for money ...
I don't like affiliate programs because someone can see your link and go to the site by another route and you will give them business that does not include you as the referral. In fact, maybe you can answer this, Austin. If someone does access a business through your link but does not buy anything at that time and later goes back and accesses the site through their browser, does the IP address of the shopper get saved and and linked to the IP address of the referral so the referral is credited or is this forgotten so that if the person makes a purchase having accessed the site through their browser at a later time there is no credit given to the initial referrer?
Peace,
libramoon
I'm on Gather (obviously...lol) and MyPoints. I don't do much with MyPoints just the 5 points for clicking on website and the odd survey.
I'm enjoying the social prospects of Gather rather than worrying about the points, they are just icing on the sweet cake of friendship!
I have been with MyPoints for about 10 years now and have cashed in at least one $25 gift card each year for the first 7, then up to $50 in year 8, then the last 2 years I actually started shopping online through their links and have made $150-200 each year, so I am happy with that...I get the giftcards and then spend them for holiday gifts or birthday gifts for my family...this year I bought a couple textbooks from Target (shopped through the MyPoints website and earned points while redeeming gift cards I earned through their site)...overall, very happy with their program.
Have participated in various survey sites. Liked Lightspeed before they changed over to a points system. Used to get Amazon gift certificates and test items all the time, now I rarely even get invited to surveys and when I do, haven't received enough points to earn anything yet. Anyway, I participate because I enjoy it and eventually I will have enough to get a little something for having fun.
As far as Gather, I just redeemed points this week for my first gift card. I learned about Gather from MyPoints and signed up through them to get the points. I'm glad I did because I have had a great time here and met many wonderful people. Now I am working toward a gift card to donate to the Victory Junction Gang Camp so they can use it to help provide free camp opportunities to disabled and terminally ill children. I think it is a wonderful cause and I think this will be a fun way to help them out.
I have the same answer!
I love them both!
marty
My interest in Blogging has always been to encourage me to write, creatively, knowing there was a potential audience. The money was secondary. I was an early member of Gather and a frequent contributor. I made more money in the early days than I do now. It seems that gather has become more of a social networking site, than a place for serious writers, but in general the quality of writing here is better than on Blogit...It was interesting tyo find out about other peoples experiences trying to earn $$$, thanks Austin...
I belong to too many things to even list. But the ones I have received money from lately are, netwinner, mypoints, mysurvey, opinion outpost.
Got burned by paidemail.com, oh well, at least I didn't lose money, just time.
I have alot of sites that I view. I haven't stopped to add up the time spent on them. I am so close to good money now I don't dare quit.
Thanks for the info.
I also do MyPoints, Gather, AC, Helium, Amazon Mechanical Turk, and am a member of several survey panels. I joined Gather through BzzAgent, but they haven't been worth my time lately.
thanks for sharing that post with us!
take care.