Discussion Topic #5: Aliens or Extraterrestrials--Do you believe they exist?

Since I am basically a chicken about everything I hope that if there are aliens they are angelic life forms who have no intention of hurting me. Past this I just can't say what I think because I don't know.

My uncle, a farmer in Kansas, experienced the cattle mutilations that have been written about. A number of his cows were found with perfect incisions and no blood. The family did not talk about it much. In fact, it was quickly forgotten. I think they were afraid to go there in their minds and were quick to dismiss the possibility.

From all that I've read, there does seem to be much to support the existence of these beings. Only a short time ago, some of the air traffic controllers at O'Hare Airport in Chicago spoke up about seeing a UFO while they were on duty.

I have seen a triangle wing flying "plane" close 75 feet above the ground with no sound. it had a bright light on the front. I saw it coming towards me down the side of a busy road. From the front it looked like an LA police helicopter. I pulled into the center lane to see what it was as it went past. I looked up as it past and it was all wing triangle going slow. by the time traffic cleared and I pulled across the road to look where it had gone, it was gone, not to be seen. It had some blinking lights and some kind of observation area on top. I saw no one in it. That was about ten years ago.

So how were you affected by that, George? Did you think that it was a UFO at the time or did you explain it to something else? Were others there that saw it with you?

I do believe they exist, I do not think we are alone in the multitude of universes out there, and I believe as many are starting to that we have been visited before, in ancient times, perhaps even taught technology to advance our societies which someone was lost through the ages.

A number of years ago, I read the book "Chariot of the Gods". It's just been long enough that I don't remember much of it. But I do remember that it was a great book about this topic. Has anyone else read it?

I am not completely closed off to the idea that they exist, but I really don't believe. I have not read or seen anything to make me believe otherwise.

There was someone else in my truck who also saw the flying triangle wing. My mind struggled with wether it was a UFO or a secret plane. When ever I met a pilot (Airforce of commercial) I would ask them about such a plane that could fly slow that close without a sound. No one has been able to tell me of such a known craft. I have believed for a long time that we are not a lone unique feature in this vast universe. Our planet is orbiting one star of 100 trillion in our galaxy with another 100 trillion galaxies known. I do believe that freewill is a Law of the Universe God has created. God as the unknowble creative principle or force but intelligent beyond our comprehension. It was a snapshot of evidence. Beings that can get off their planet have generally realized their higher natures and aren't acting like vikings anymore. We have to advance in that way ourselves and then the higher laws will open up for us.

Basically, it's statistically impossible for there not to be.

For the sake of arguement, let's say there are 100-billion (1*10^11) stars in ours and other close galaxies. If 1/100th of those had planets, that comes to 1*10^9 planets (1-billion). If 1/100th of those planets were earth-like, that gives us 1*10^7 (10-million earth-like planets). If 1/100th of those supported life, that's 1*10^5 (in the neighborhood of 10,000.

The Russians declassified all of their UFO research in 1993. They're not only convinced there are aliens, but have proof.

I live in Sedona, Arizona. We have a "dark skies" ordinance (no streetlights or intense business lights) so the skies are magnificently clear. This is also an area of very strange happenings. I have seen many silent "shadows" occlude the stars slowly. There was a well publicised event in 1997 that has been dubbed the "Phoenix Lights" where a large craft drifted slowly from Flagstaff to Tucson and back, crossing Phoenix twice. This was filmed and witnessed by hundreds of thousands of people. Even the governor at the time has admitted seeing it.

There is a movie, available on DVD, called "The Phoenix Lights" that is a compilation of footage taken by hundreds of people that witnessed this.

In upstate NY I saw lights in the sky - many at once - suddenly blink out. Several others in different areas of that campus reported the same sighting at the same time.

I've experienced weird memory fragments - finally began to understand they were "abduction" memories; some of them were quite physical.

I carry some "implants" - some of them physical, some non-physical. The ones I can remove, I do.

I was one of the females in the Bay Area who was sexually molested by a "grey" invasion in 1959. That memory was buried for a long time, and when it began to surface I kept trying to repress it. Finally, though, it was brought to the surface during a healing session, and that was when I learned I was not the only one who had experienced that at that time.

Everything we see on this planet is not necessarily what it appears to be. Everyone we assume to be human here, is not necessarily so.

Following the rule of thumb to love God in All Beings - in other words, to Keep It Simple - seems the best way to go, no matter what we encounter.

Peace!

It is clear to me that something has been going on.

Walker, thanks for sharing your information. It doesn't surprise me that the Russians are more upfront about such things. Our government doesn't believe that we can handle the truth.

Carolion, thank you for sharing your very personal experience of this phenomena. Have you had any regressions/hynosis to go back and remember exactly what happened? I guess if we believe that everything comes from God, then we must trust that there is something good to come from this. But it must have been terrifying to experience. Have you had any recent abductions?

The terror was removed because I was under some sort of amnesiac-hypnotic energy, and came out of it just as the act (the molestation) was being completed. I was 12, knew nothing of sex, wondered what that "person" was doing going out my window...But later, was triggered into an episode of hysterical screaming by what seemed, to my family, a minor sibling incident.

When it's time for me to remember details I have no doubt the healer/teacher or dream I need to assist me will appear!

I accept that at some level there were karmic soul agreements that allowed these things to happen - and I always use the transformed energies for assisting others in self-healing.

The most recent episode I can "recall" is awakening - sort of - one night (remembered much later) - realizing that "they" were implanting some sort of crystal in my daughter's ear, and I could do nothing about it.
But that was before all my healings and healing trainings. Now, when it's time, I'll do something about it.

There is a lot more to what exists than what is on Earth. I don't think we'll ever know ALL of what is out there, but we will learn new things every day.

Carolion, you are an incredible lady. I can't imagine going through something like that. I was molested by the brother of a friend; but to be molested by an alien would be more than I could handle. And to then have your daughter also involved...it's incomprehensible. I agree, that you must have agreed to this at the soul level. But what a thing to take on. I'm glad that you have experienced a healing around this and have come to a place of peace. I hope that your daughter has also found peace.

look up the John E mack website and there's some strong evidence for the existence of ET's. I used to be a skeptic until I saw a documentary featuring the incident at Ariel elementary school in Zimbabwe. 62-primary school age kids don't lie!

I don't see them as 'advanced spiritual beings' but I do see them as other examples of creatures, besides the human for planet earth and its purposes, who were designed to communicate over a cosmic script rather than a planetary-bound one . . .

David wilcox anyone?