I compiled these notes in order to discover where I fit into the world of literature.
There are a number of styles and one can't really assess another's work if you don't know in which broad category it falls. Each category has its own foundations.
You're all invited to add to this piece of background information. Your thoughts and feelings will be appreciated and may help another Gatherite further his knowledge and make him a better writer.
I, for example, will never make a good stream of consciousness writer as it does not suit my personality. However, because I know that there is such a genre, I'll try and compose two such pieces in the next few days so that I understand the medium better.
Here are summaries of four important genres:
Metaphysical poetry wrestles with moral and religious issues and exhibits the strain of emotional and intellectual struggle. It is characterised by elaborate, sometimes bizarre use of metaphor, rough and rugged versification, dramatic speakers and paradoxical reasoning.
Example: John Donne "Love's Alchymie"
Cavalier poetry ends to be smooth and elegant and concerned with life's pleasures and beautiful things (including women) and feelings rather than moral concerns.
Example: Robert Herrick "To the Virgins, to Make Much of Time."
Stream of Consciousness Writing is a modernist form that assembles a story by tracing its characters' thoughts and feelings rather than through the voice of a detached narrator.
It conveys a sense of modern existence through fleeting half formed impressions of the sort that run through people's minds constantly.
Example: TS Eliot "Wasteland"
Magical Realism is an important recent development in fiction. It combines familiar novelistic realism with elements of fantasy. The narrator tells the story as if ha believes that magical unexplainable things can really happen.
Magical realism expresses a point of view that is neither some other culture nor is it purely Western. It's an attempt to come to terms with both at once.
Example: Salman Rushdie "Midnight's Children".




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Blessings and hugs from Russia - S.
I hope that it helps some people. It's help me sort out my perspectives.
Hugs and blessings from SA...Fred
You have the courage to venture into a genre you yourself proclaim is not the stuff you are made for.!!
I don't know where I fit in..maybe Im not too keen on boxing myself into some particular genre.
Good luck on the strean-of-consciousness writing. Might be a fun exercise for you. Good therapy, definitely!
I'm looking forward to your stream-of-consciousness writing. I have no doubt that you will do it well and I will both enjoy it and learn from it.
Well it's man's basic urge to explore areas never seen before.
I don't think that you are boxed in anywhere. You're as free as a bird. However, if you look at at all of your works, you'll see a common strain among many of them.
In the same way, I've deliberately written in different genres in the last 6 months.
So I haven't been boxed in either but although there is one genre in which I flourish...I keep on trying others.
You see I'm here to learn.
Thanks for your comments.
I've known about metaphysical poetry for some time but this cavalier genre is new to me. I learned about it this week end.
Never too late to learn.
Thaks for the good wishes.
Most of us, including you and Minnie and myself, are free ranging...but if you look carefully you'll see a leaning to one or other style.
You'll see that when I write my stream of consciousness piece. It will be totally different from my usual stuff.
I agree with what you wrote but I based my assertion not on my thoughts but on those of Jay Stevenson. After all she's a Ph D Literarure.
Prufrock and Pound were also mentioned.
Please don't regard me as a fundi. I'm merely someone who who has dared to put something down on black and white so that Gather can step up and comment...and in so doing build up a knowledge bank.
PS It was on this very same basis that Wikipedia was built up...wasn't it?
Thank you for commenting Umar.
Let's regard this article as a learnng experience for us all.
Let's check out all the comments and then at the end summarise what we've gained from this combined experience.
I'm so happy to see you here. Thank you for your contribution.
I agree with what you say but I'd like to point this out:
Put John Donne, T S Eliot and Salman Rushdie on the table side by side and surely you'll see a major difference in style. It's this difference that I'm talking about rather than any similarities or not in the themes.
i just enjoy reading good writing and connect.
i am not sure you need to be conscious of everything you write about , sometimes its best to jump in the water, mix all the various inpirational forces and go for it!
but it is interesting nonthe less, thanks for sharing Fred
I could be in all of those categories. I've probably even created my very own, via series of stories such as my Tales from the Burning Pits and Tales from Leprechaunia - just to name two.
Please please don't think that I fully understand what I've chosen here as a subject. That's why I quote Dr. Jay Stevenson so fully.
I had also not heard of Cavalier poetry before but having seen examples in the book, I'm of the opinion that several Gatherites use this style.
I look at my promised attempt to do some Stream of Consciousness poetry with much trepidation. It would mean stepping far outside of my natural field.
Thanks for the comment.
Thanks
A warm welcome to you. Truth be told, no discussion on literary matters would be complete with your participation.
I'm an auto-deduct and as such my own knowledge is totally inadequate... but I do have a certain amount of foolish bravado. Because of this, I've now ventured into a field where others are more qualified to be.
Thank you for your information. I'm particularly fond of John Donne and whenever I quote a poet, I usually quote him. Why? Because the Speech and Drama students at Varsity were always talking about him, it seemed.
You've thrown a bright light on the metaphysical style and I thank you for that.
Dear John, if this correspondence means that you and will exchange comments then I'm thankful that I initiated this thread. What greater reward?
Yes, I'll dare to create a conscious understanding of another convention but that will be in the nature of a brief exercise. After all, I know my limits.
Thank you John again. I enjoyed your visit very much.
I've been doing exactly what you say dear...but there came a time (after a year) when I began to wonder about the different approaches to writing forms.
I write without thinking about styles but I did notice that some styles of other writers worked for me while others didn't...and so I wondered about it.
I wouldn't have done anything about it if I hadn't gone to one of those coffee house-book shops and found, purely by accident, a most fantastic book on the subject.
Soon I'll publish something on analytical reading from the same book.
Hi Magi. Don't you ever change. You're magical and quite unique. You're a real joy.
Welcome Bhawana. Glad to see you. My life has led me to a certain writing style. It's really all I can do when I sit in the coffee house with Arabica at my elbow.
I'm glad you like my stuff. May I return the compliment? You really write well.
I don't think I fit into any category as my writing is so diverse ( some of it's crap ) :).
Maybe one day I'll settle in to something steady.
I've just read something by you and it's decidedly not crap. You really write well. Keep it up and we'll find a nook for it later...say in 2008 or 2009.l
I'm afraid, as inexperienced as I am, that if I try too hard for any one writing style I'd end up confusing myself and writing something more stilted and forced.... do you find that when you attempt different styles? Does trying other styles expand your writing as a whole? Just curious about your perspectives. :-)
I really appreciate this article ..you gave me a clue ..this is informative as well as inspiring ...Its always fun (serious fun) to persue a form of writing ..I was also thinking of improving my writing skills in a similar excercise .
looking forward to read different styles of poetry ...
Thank you for your take on this article. What you say makes a lot of sense to me.
But I differ from you on one point. You'e a damn fine writer.
All that I've done here is to define a few styles commonly used on Gather so that writers can see whether they fit into one of them of not.
I found that I'm at my heart a Magical Realism style writer...and when I read that style title I felt a strange thrill. I felt that I had found my home.
But I can write in many styles...watch this space. Hahaha.
Please Elsie always have fun when you write. I always do.
Me try and educate you??? Oh my. Can't be. You're such a great story teller.
Please don't change your style. I do...on a very very small scale as I try and learn more about the mystery of writing.
I do find that I'm not full at home in many styles and I'm usually quite glad when my experiment is over.
So why do I do it? I find that by venturing out into the unknown, I learn a thing here or there that helps me in my own preferred style.
Just for a one off trial, I did a narrative poem about playing baseball in Cape Town. It went OK but I was glad when it was over...and I won't do that again.
On the other hand, I did a couple of Sestinas and I found the experience quite exhilirating and learnt a thing or two about poetry writing.
I want to do two stream of consciousness poems and then stay in the 2 or 3 areas where I feel most at home.
Yes...my experiments did help me a little...but I don't recommend this for others. I'm known to be a particularly adventurous kind of man.
I hope that you're feeling better now.
Please read my reply to Lisa above. That gives my background thoughts quite clearly.
Yes I have and will experiment...but only a little. Most of the time I'll go to my 2 or 3 natural styles in which I can most colourfully express my thoughts.
Best wishes
I agree with you completely about seeking a wider focus and in so doing you may have given me the reason why I bother to experiment.
Perhaps I can borrow something from this style or that one and use my stolen nuggets to bring a golden shine to my own natural style. Yes...I think that's it...thank you Bill.
I find your honourable duties in Japan to be both eye opening and impressive. What a marvellous time that must have been for you?
I spent 10 days in Japan and I can talk about those for hours. How many stories don't you have in your Japanese diaries?
Well done Bill. You talk about your days there with great modesty but I'm sure that there are many wonderful events that you can recall...especially as you wife is Japanese. She must have been thrilled by the honour shown you.
Sayonara Bill-san
I was on my way to New Mexico to sit at your feet and learn from from you.
You need to know nothing more that what you aleady know.
Please read my answer to Lisa above.
I'm weird. Read some of my stuff and you'll have that confirmed. I like experimenting.
Look, how will I ever know the middle is the best unless I try a little bit of the left and a little bit of the right?
I never took a writing class either. I'm just an engineer with a sense of fun.
Glad that you something in this article. I only collected the info. I wasn't my original work but I thought that it was of some importance.
According to whar you say, what I wrote to Birdie applies to you too except that you don't live in New Mexico. (of course).
Yeeah it's funny how some articles bring a flock of very interesting comments. I love that.
Oh you're so right...there are many more categories but the ones listed cover about 90 % of the styles in current use today. For example, I didn't include what thet call cyberpunk. Something that's very popular in some areas.
I think that the only ay to learn to write is to write. When I look at what I wrote only a year ago I'm knocked out. Was I so stupid??? Only a year ago???
I think also that if you read a lot in your genre, while you're writing, you immediately pick up good ideas.
Good luck Heather. I can see that you're doing verywell already. Well done.
But, personally speaking, I was quite excited when I saw that my strange style of writing was in fact a recognised genre. I never knew that before.
I always thought that I was slightly nuts, in my own special way. Now I'm glad that I'm not nuts alone.
Yes, I di enjoy discovering my own genre...my own writing essence. Let me welcome you to this special group of writers.
One of our aims is to bring a kind of magical joy to people but at the same time bring an upliftment which is not just pie in the sky but real...so real that your life changes.
Your news on the great Argetinian writers is so exciting. I've got the names and I'll see what the internet will bring me.
We here mainly know Paul Coelho (not Argentinian of course) but need to know how your great writers think. If the Romanian people loved Casares then I must read him too. (What was his first name?)
Thank you for your brilliant comments. You made my day.
Hey, don't work too hard. Fred
You write beautifully Rose...not so much Southern at all.
You've given me an idea. I'll write something Southern just for you. Then you'll see what Southern is.
I love the way you write and I look forward to each new piece of yours.