Republican Presidential candidate Tom Tancredo has recently proposed a new Immigration Reform Bill. Tancredo's legislation would end the immmigration of extended family members of U.S. Citizens and permanant residents, which has long been the basis of legal immigration to the U.S. His legislation would also limit the number of visas for foreign workers to 5,200 per year.
Tancredo's legislation would also address the anchor baby issue and topics such as the employment of illegal immigrants as well as the Border fence.
He proposes a minium prison sentence of 1 year for employers who repeatedly knowingly hire illegal mmigrants. This legislation would also require the President to build the border fence which was authorized by Congress in 2006 as well as penalizing the States that help illegal immigrants attend State funded schools.
My only problem with Tancredo's plan is limiting the number of visa for foreign workers to only 5,200 per year. Though I do believe that there should be a decrease in foreign visas, reducing that number to only 5,200 seems to be quite extreme as far as I'm concerned.
Supporters of Tancredo's plan are mostly in support of reducing the number of foreign visas to 5,200. They state that reducing the number of foreign visas is vital. Their reason for supporting this part of the legislation is " We have to limit the number of legal immigrants so that we can properly deal with the immigrants who are already in our country "
Tancredo and his supporters state that as soon as we have the illegal immiration situation under control, the number of foreign visas issued would then increase. Considering that Tancredo stated during one of the recent debates that he proposes a complete suspension of immigration to the U.S. until the illegal immigration situation is under control, one has to wonder where he actually stands on this issue. One minute he wants to reduce the number of foreign visas to 5,200 per year and then the next minute he wants to suspend all immigration to the U.S. Can you say " Talking out of both sides of your mouth" ?
Of course I believe that the number of foreign visas issued should be decreased. There is case after case of H-1B visa fraud. Then there are cases where H-1B visa holders are accepting jobs for a cheaper wage than American workers can afford to work for. So for these reasons alone, I do strongly feel that the number of foreign visas should be reduced. However reducing that number to a mere 5,200 is extreme to say the least. My proposal would be to reduce the number of foreign visas issued to perhaps 500,000, however this is just my opinion.
So Gather members....How do you feel about this? Should the number of foreign visas issued be reduced? Should immigration to the U.S. be completely suspended until the illegal immigration situation is under control ?
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This is like an advertisement for 5 jobs at Verizon and 8,374 applicants show up and don't leave, then they start bidding down for the other jobs.
We need to get a hold on the worker situation.
We need to get a hold on the criminals, human traffickers, drug dealers, AND terrorist.
I don't care how good of a swimmer you are put enough frantic drowning people on you and your going down.
Ron..great point!
Excatly....will you marry me Elsie ?
This is my quote, by although, I meant even though he was purto rican (meaning legal)
Heather..I challenge you write an article along these lines. Your argument is the best that I've read so far. You have presented more than enough material in your last two comments for at least two articles. Write it up and you can be assured that I'll be there to support you !
Mark..yes she does !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7WJeqxuOfQ
And I must also ask..where are the people who were debating with me about this issue last night on a different thread ? Have you people no courage whatsoever ?
But if this problem does keep existing, we're going to become a third world nation ourselves due to the massive population that will become unmanagable in this country.
1) Enforce the current laws
2) Become so strict with companies about hiring illegals that they collectively twitch when they think about it
3) Create an environment where entering the country illegally is unappealing (no free anything if you are not a citizen)
4) No anchor babies (provide that one of the parents has to be a citizen)
5) Be willing to pay an American citizen more to a) babysit your children, b) mow your lawn, c) construct your homes, and d) pick your vegetables
6) Rethink NAFTA (Who knew Pat Buchanan could actually be right? I shudder whenever I have to type that comment)
You have the talent and the knowledge,..so what are you waiting for ??
Come on guy's..grow a couple.
Second, I did not say it was the right thing, but that "Maybe Tom Tancredo's point is more correct than we think? I don't know at this point, but will have to think about it. Even the temporary stop, might be a very good idea."
2006 cencus has the population at 299,398,484. And no we are not at the tripping stage yet. But then that is like a dud round, will it go off if you tap it or not? THe numbers are figures that at the time they figured all the data they knew, and that does not mean 100% correct, but that it will happen eventually after that point.
Not only that, but we are also getting hostile illegals in at the same time, and this has to be addressed. What is the best way to do it? Hell I don't know, and doubt anyone knows; but then should we stop an idea just because we do not like it, or only if it is wrong? I don't see either versions as wrong, because they are only temporary measures to give us time to address the real problem. Now the second phase in this is where I have my concerns, is will the government actually do anything, or just sit around playing switch with each other, while bickering like a bunch of spoilt school girls.
I still would like to know what dipwads e-mailed you.
Dan..that's exactly what's happening and that's all that's gonna happen unfortunately. Tancedo's proposed extreme measuers aren't giong to fly either.
Enforce the laws already on the books as Elsie stated above, however don't sit around waiting for that to happen in our lifetime. It ain't gonna happen. We've already been sold out and you know that Dan.
I will comment primarily on the limiting of legal Visas. Doing so would harm US businesses. While there is certainly some abuse of the h1b visa laws where foreign workers are brought in when there are qualified American workers, there are also cases where there are not sufficient American workers qualified to fill certain jobs. Would the high tech industry really survive without the talent from India, Russia, China and Japan?
With that said, I agree that there needs to be some enforcement of the current laws and penalties. When I was in silicon valley we NEEDED h1b Visa candidates to fill positions, but on the east coast here I see all kinds of cases where h1b visas are being abused to find labor that is half the price of a qualified American. The visa process is supposed to be used to recruit for jobs where qualified American applicants don't exist. It is not supposed to be used to fill jobs for 50% salary. You have the option to outsource the work to another country if you want the 50% cost of labor route.
I have personally lost jobs that I was the right candidate for and had someone brought in from another country. I don't believe I was the only qualified American either. There should be an easy process for an American to ask for a hearing when the h1b Visas are misused.
Last point is that we as Americans benefit greatly from the legal immigrants who come here for legitimate reasons. They help us grow our businesses and keep the bulk of the revenues here. They help us find solutions that prevent the whole job being outsourced. We should focus on the abuse of the system and not throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Liz....good points also..thanks !
We definitely need to cut off funding for educating illegals' kids. If they want their kids educated they can go home, pay for a private school, or home school. It's not up to us here in the US to pay for educating their kids. If they cared for their children at all they wouldn't be risking those children's well being by being here illegally in the first place.
I like the fence and the enforcement parts, and would personally kiss the guy's ring if he managed to get the baby as citizen thing fixed. (I've been told I can't say Anchor Baby in gather so we really need to come up with a good term for them).
When the legal immigration system is overhauled and fixed, I would want to see background checks of course, but I would make a speaking level of English language mandatory before they could come here even for field workers. I also believe that skills and education should put people above those possessing neither. Other than for under-aged children, spouses, and possibly elderly parents, family connections should not enable anyone to get a visa.
What needs to be added perhaps is that the businesses that would be hurt byfurther limiting visas to skilled, educated immigrants (some of you are talking as if they weren't very limited already) would be the businesses that make the US the world center of innovation and research. The US has played this role for about a century now, and the way it has been working is that everyone has been coming here to do their thing. By all means, prevent people from all over the world from coming and participating. But then be prepared for this center to move elsewhere. The European Union (what did you think that was about?) is working hard to make that the case already. When that happens, the whole problem will go away, for sure--there won't be any tech jobs for immigrants to come to. There won't be too many for US citizens either, because things won't be happening here anymore.
Find the violators and imprison them.
I should probably throw out, ankle biters, rug huggers, and crumb snatchers, too.
To clarify......The points under the other thread were.............
---The current system of tracking legal immigrants into our country is currently broken and needs to be fixed. Until it is fixed, we should temporarily decrease the number of legal immigrants who are allowed entry into our country.
---There are a large percentage of people who start off as "legal" immigrants and then turn into "illegal" immigrants by overstaying their visas, etc. Currently, we do not have a system that works whereby we can know/track when a person comes into the country, where they are, when are they supposed to leave, did they leave on the date that they were supposed to, if they did not leave then where are they.
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---All legal entry into the country should also be temporarily halted until the 14th Amendment is revised/reinterpreted.
---We need to temporarily slow down legal entry into our country until the people who are already here have an opportunity to assimmilate.
---We need to temporarily slow down legal entry into our country until the employer systems, social security systems, IRS, etc.-------are all fixed/intertwined so that we are able to know that legal citizens/immigrants only are getting US jobs----and are able to catch those who are committing document fraud, identity theft, etc.
---We need to have a temporary halt/decrease on legal immigration into our country so that stats/facts/figures can be collected regarding our economy, unemployment rate, resources, etc. ----and examined to determine what number of legal immigrants into our country is an acceptable amount without it having a negative effect.
---We need to have a tempory halt/decrease in legal immigration until we have a workable system of tracking these people--------not only due to our economy, assimmilation, etc.----but we are also puting our country at risk for terrorist activity.
"(WASHINGTON, DC) – US Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-Colorado) today announced plans to offer an amendment to an annual spending bill that would prevent the Bush Administration from using any funds to enforce the judgment or sentences imposed by a federal judge in the case of U.S. vs. Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean. If adopted, the amendment would force the release of the two former Border Patrol agents whose case has been the focus of national news for several months.
"Americans have been waiting months for the President to right this wrong and I am not going to wait any longer," said Tancredo, "It's time that the Congress took matters into its own hands."
"This Kangaroo court in Texas has made a decision, but Congress is under no obligation to provide the administration with the funds they need to enforce it," Tancredo continued."
Entire article through link.......
http://tancredo.house.gov/PRArticle.aspx?NewsID=1289
You have a point. I have friends that picked cotton and worked in chicken factories (during the summer) to buy school clothes. And, I'm not even that old. Or, wait. I don't think I'm that old.
Transcripts
July 18, 2007
"New evidence tonight of massive fraud involving the sale of American visas. And it presents a critical threat to our national security. Once people use those visas, of course, to enter this country, our government has no way tracking them or knowing whether they will, in fact, leave or when they leave.
Bill Tucker has our report.
(BEGIN VIDEO TAPE)
BILL TUCKER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: (voice-over): Authorities in India break up an undercover ring selling American H1B and student visas. We didn't learn about the bust from the State Department in the United States, which administers the visas --
SEAN MCCORMACK, STATE DEPARTMENT SPOKESMAN: I have to admit, I'll look into that for you.
QUESTION: OK.
MCCORMACK: I don't have the details here.
TUCKER: We learned about it from the American consulate in Mumbai, India.
GLEN KEISER, U.S. CONSULATE, MUMBAI, INDIA: The school in the United States is being investigated by the Department of Homeland Security. It's in danger of losing its rights to accept foreign students.
TUCKER: The State Department won't say which school, only that other schools are is the also under active investigation -- schools which they say accept "significant numbers of foreign students."
The arrest the latest example of our failure of oversight of our visa programs -- 5.8 million people on 70 different visa programs were given access to the United States last year. Once they arrived, we have no idea where they went. We don't know who or how many have remained after their visas expired. That same lack of oversight has led to Indian companies being the biggest users and abusers of visa programs like the H1Bs.
Visa and security experts say that while improvements have been made since 9/11, more improvements are needed in how we police them.
JACK RILEY, RAND CORPORATION: If there were ways of incentivizing state and local law enforcement agencies to participate in immigration enforcement, the process of overstaying a visa might have a little more bite behind it.
TUCKER: Enforcement is important. The 19 9/11 hijackers entered the country legally. They stayed illegally.
(END VIDEO TAPE)
TUCKER: And yet here we are, six years later, talking about the same problem. The student visa program is unlimited, by the way, with the visas issued year around, which represents an especially pro-found problem.
And, Lou, religious visas appear to be the ones most vulnerable to fraud. Fully one third of the people applying for visa applications for religious reasons were found to be applying on a fraudulent basis.
(LAUGHTER).
DOBBS: You know, we're laughing about it. I mean, those religious folks ought to get religion, I suppose.
But this country ought to be getting religion. This administration ought to be getting religion. And this is -- it is incomprehensible that this administration has not learned apparently anything from the tragic events of September 11th.
TUCKER: Right.
DOBBS: seventy visa programs, incapable of following these. We know that visas are stolen, that they are being created fraudulently. And they're doing absolutely nothing but some -- a little at the margin, I think we have to say, but almost nothing, in six years, to take control of who's entering this country and finding out where they are and when they're leaving.
TUCKER: No. And we know their visas expire. This is not a secret. We just don't know whether they leave."
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0707/18/ldt.01.html
I would still vote for you for president. I bet picking the cotton and cleaning the chicken coops didnt kill them either.
Republican presidential candidate Tom Tancredo is accusing President Bush, rival John McCain and others who tried but failed to push through an immigration reform measure of a total disregard for the views of others.
"It was the arrogance that got to me as much as the bad policy that they were pushing," Tancredo says. "I mean even the president, you remember him saying, 'I'm going to see you in the Rose Garden at the (bill) signing ceremony.' Well, there was no signing ceremony. There's not going to be a bill signing ceremony."
Tancredo has made his opposition to illegal immigration the focus of his campaign and he has referred to the plan which failed to make it out of the U.S. Senate this summer as "amnesty" for those who've entered the country illegally.
"We didn't stop the problem. We didn't solve the problem. It is still there," Tancredo says. "We still have borders that are porous." Tancredo says this fight over the immigration issue and the perception that leaders like Bush are "arrogant" has intensified public dissatisfaction with their government.
"When you look at 14 percent approval ratings for the congress of the United States, 20-some percent for the president -- lowest in the history of poll-taking, right -- it's not just dangerous for incumbents. It's dangerous, I think, for the republic...when you have this much of a disconnect between the people and their government," Tancredo says. "...I know the frustration. I feel it myself." Tancredo will be campaigning in Iowa almost non-stop in the days leading up to the Iowa Republican Party's Straw Poll August 11th
Many Americans are all for diversity and legal immigration up to a point and that point is when they start to get 'pinched' then all the goodwill created by diversity, etc. will go out the window.
If the problem isn't fixed a backlash is likely to occur against all immigrants. (I'm not saying this is right, just what will happen.)
Didn't you say that you were in Oregon..........
'Illegal worker free' ordinance courts controversy
By Bob Heye and KATU Web Staff
July 19, 2007
http://www.katu.com/news/8597962.html
"...(I've been told I can't say Anchor Baby in gather so we really need to come up with a good term for them).
How 'bout "Jackpot Babies"?
That is the county right next door to where I live. The one I live in is littered with Bleeding Heart Liberals that would rather save a tree than look at real issues like imigration. Thanks for the info though, Im glad someone is standing up and doing something about this issue here in Oregon.
Yep, sounds good to me. However, I use them both-----because that is the purpose/intent/goals of the illegals having kids on US soil.
I agree with you, but I also see the logic in what he has said. But as we both agree, is that it does not matter what logic is put forth, they [the Government] will not do what is needed.
Liz said; "I have come to understand just how many jobs go unfilled by workers here in the USA, thus making it essential to hire guest workers from other countries."
Yes you are right, but then look at what these people are willing to pay? I worked on a ranch when I was 15-17 and was paid 200 a week plus room and board. To be honest, that was not bad money back then. Today, many of these people hiring these illegals, and some of the visa people are paying the 200 a week without the room and board, or that much, and in todays economy that is not really enough for someone with a family. So it is not always that Americans won't work it, but they cannot aford to work it. Not witrh the cost of health insurance, food, clothing, and so on. Back when I did this, I could buy a good pair of boots for $40.00 or less, and clothes did not cost as much. If you had one kid, you could not aford these wages. Illegals will live in a bare sack and have two to four families at a time in them. This is not a safe environment for the families, nor is it good for the kids.
I would rather have fare wages for legals and Naturals, and the people living in a safe and healthy environment, than what is going on now with the illegals today and the past who knows how many years.
You've touched on work visas already. Yes, the tech industry, which is necessarily interational in nature, will not be able to compete, and it will move elsewhere, but who needs it anyway? It's just a major revenue earner.
Scrap student visas too (there's already been a significant drop in foreign student enrollment since you-know-when). That will further contribute to the erosion of the US's primacy in reseach and development, as well other areas of scholarship and academia, since those are international in nature too, and have always been. Destroy that too, who needs it?
But of course, most of the people who overstay visas or work without authorization are not on work or student visas. It's people who enter on tourist visas. So go ahead and scrap tourism too--that's just another major industry....
Talk about destroying this country.
And concerning the H-1B Visa fraud..isn't there a way to tell if those are fake or stolen ?
We don't need a new immigration bill..period. Just enforce the laws on the books, which isn't happening very much nowadays.
Now let me pose this question.....Even if Tancredo's bill somehow passes..what makes you think the laws included in that bill will be enforced ?
With 20 to 30 Million here already, do we really need more? Jobs are already given out to the lowest bidder, with Americans the losers.
Is immigration and H1B visas supposed to be conducive to America or the immigrant?
I still don't see how limiting the number of foreign visa to 5200 or temporaraly suspending them will help solve this problem. ICE already has the necessary tools to do the job, however they aren't.
The sad part about the anchor babby issue is that these innocent children are being used as pawns in the chess game of illegal immigration, and the chess players who are using them as pawns are their own parents.
Timothy: I agree with you that the children themselves are the victims. They are brought into this world not out of love and a desire to have and raise a child, but rather as a cold, callous calculation. I would be so crushed when I reached adulthood to find out that I was wanted only because of a misinterpretation of a law that someone was exploiting.
1. Enforce the laws prohibiting the hiring of undocumented workers. Make the fines hurt!
2. Tancredo is right re the "anchor baby" issue. A child should be considered to belong to the nationality (birth or naturalized) of his/her parents.
That being said, I have a sick feeling that most of the rants against illegal aliens is racism run amok.
But what bothers me most is WE DON'T SEEM TO CARE WHO'S HERE!! A man known to be here illegally, who was also a registered sex offender, kidnapped and murdered a 12-year-old girl in Tacoma. And we dither about the possibility that one too many newborn former Mexicans might be moving in next door.
Heather Y thank you for your excellent comments. Of course immigrants have made amazing contributions to the country. To their country -- the USA. We are, after all, a nation of immigrants. Isn't it funny that in many cases, each group of immigrants is ready to close the door behind them as soon as they're in?
Carolyn G. says "I would be so crushed when I reached adulthood to find out that I was wanted only because of a misinterpretation of a law that someone was exploiting."
Not all children are brought into this world out of love and the desire to raise a child, regardless of the parents' nationality or citizenship status. But if that's how you would feel if you were to find yourself in the situation you describe, then how likely would you be to be an "anchor" by sponsoring your parents' legal immigration once you were an adult?
White House who has the correct ideas about how to deal with this invasion of our
country.
This issue is # 1. It is akin to the 1940's issue of World War II. In a few ways, it's even worse than that. Even in WWII, the Japanese did not occupy this country
with 12-20 million of their nationals, extract over $100 Billion (2007 $) of our wealth
and pocket it, and impose the language/culture upon us (all of which is happening
right now with this illegal "immigration"). I don't care who belongs to whatever party at this point - this invasion must be stopped.
The answer to both of your questions, Timothy, isn't yes - it is, OF COURSE !!!
and pocket it"
The $100 billion is for all immigrants, including legal ones. They send money to family in the countries they immigrated from. It's their wealth, not ours, and they can do what they like with it.
immigrants, according to recent GAO reports. Another $62 billion is being pickpocketed from us for "human services" (ie. us paying Mexico's, et al, poverty bill instead of Mexico paying Mexico's poverty bill). This will continue as long as we are stupid enough to allow it. This is flat out theft, similar to the 1000's of tribal "sackings" during the middle ages when one tribe would attack another's town or village, remove its wealth, and re-insert that wealth into it's own village.
This is simply the biggest international burglary in world history. $107 Billion/year
(that's not including the drug trade) - Wow. The Vikings would be envious. As it is
the remittances alone are either Mexico's # 1 or # 2 source of income, depending on who you ask. This is one of the ways that Carlos Slim Helu became the richest
man in the world, topping even Bill Gates' 56 Billion.
that 6,831 US Marines sacrificed their lives, IN 4 DAYS, in the battle of Iwo Jima to prevent.
A couple of months later, another battle (Okinawa) was even more costly in American lives. A couple more things that they died to defend was our right to not have our language/culture be imposed upon, and to be occupied by millions of Japanese nationals within our borders, all 3 of which are occuring presently with
Mexico and the copycat countries (Ireland, Russia, China, various LatinAmerican, etc). This illegal "immigration" is a disgrace to the heros of WWII. and a disgrace to
this country. What in hell is keeping George Bush from being impeached ? I can
think of a dozen good reasons to yank him out.
I do appreciate everyone's input so far...though I'm still waiting for a valid argument.
However all of these new Immigration Reform bills aren't going to solve anything. Enforce the laws already on the books and update the technology. Also making the immigrants who want to come here legally wait even longer is just going to cause more illegal immigration. Again..the legal immigrant is the one who suffers.
I found a link that breaks down all the issues and shows all the information regarding the legislation the person has been for or against. I dont know if it will answer your question but I found some interesting info in there.
http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Tom_Tancredo_Environment.htm
The link you gave me yesterday about the County next to the one I live in. My Wife and I were talking last night and what we fear is that the Illegals from that county will move here making the problem worse. I can only hope that we dont become the safe ground and get inandated with Illegals. Maybe its time to learn Spanish.
I still disagree with the ' timeout ' that he proposed regarding legal immigration. There is still no reasonable explanation to back that up.
I haven't seen any logical reasoning for drastically limiting or stopping legal migration. The "just until we get things straightened out" excuse just doesn't make sense to me. Tancredo said that amnesty was a "slap in the face to people here who've done it right." Seems to me, his OVERDUE bill is another slap in the face to those people, and a slap to everybody who is more than willing to do it right.
Tancredo is happy to cherry-pick the recommendations of the Jordan Committee, but I don't think his bill offers anything close to the "solution" he claims it is.
I don't think much of his immigration reform bill, but I think even less of his attempt to pressure a federal court into freeing two convicted criminals just because he doesn't agree with the verdict or the sentence. Now that's what I call a slap in the face!
Like I stated in the article..he talks out of both sided of his mouth. Typical politician. Whatever gets him votes I suppose.
The illegal immigrant who was shot while trying to sneak drugs across the border was actually persued by Sutton and his goons and offered a Green Card in reward for testifying against the agents. Also their 12 year sentence was quite harsh compared to the sentences that convicted drug dealers, bank robbers, murderers and rapists often receive. The Decider's message here was " Try and secure that Border, and you're gonna pay "
There have also been cases where armed Mexican gangs have chased National Guard units into retreat. Several of the Guardsmen involved were given Medals for " Bravery " Again the message here is " Do your job and go to prison, back down and we'll give ya a Medal "
While I have some sympathy for the agents and their families, they weren't convicted for "doing their jobs." They were convicted of a pretty long list of crimes, and while the sentence might seem harsh, keep in mind that there was a mandatory minimum involved.
The biggest mistake that Compean and Ramos made was that they didn't report that they fired their weapons.
At the worst, they should have been fired for filing a false report and fined on top of that. However 12 years in a Federal Prison wirh no chance of early perole ? Noway that is justice!
Compean and Ramos shot an unarmed man who was running away from them. Then they tried to cover it up.
I accept that innocent people are sometimes found guilty, and that the appeals process doesn't always help them. And that even when it does, it doesn't fix everything. But do we really want Congress and/or the President to step in and interfere in the judicial process every time a jury hands down a verdict that somebody doesn't like?
Compean and Ramos' bosses were there immediately following the shooting. They did not file a written report----because their bosses were right there-----so they did not feel that it was necessary to file the written report.
Being that the bosses were right there----them not filing the written report was just an administrative type of mistake----and they should have only received a verbal/written reprimand of some type.
This information came from other Border Patrol Agents----in supervisory types of positions.
These men were intentionally hung by our government in an attempt to appease Mexico for something. What, nobody knows yet. However, there are currently many people who are investigating it.
There is a very long story-----and a lot of evidence-----in regard to Ramos and Compean being sentenced. Unless you have been following this entire story, it is not fair for you to judge these men.
You would not believe all of the evidence/BS that has been discovered. These men were set up----and the only question that remains is.....why.
I left this response under another thread as well...............
There is nothing wrong with temporarily decreasing/ending legal immigration for a few years until the systems are fixed completely-----or the systems are fixed so that they can at least track people who are coming into the country.
What you are not getting is that a lot of the immigrants who are coming into the country LEGALLY-----then end up turning into ILLEGALS on some future date. They come into the country legally-----with a specific date that they are supposed to leave. However, they do not leave on that date. At that point, they have no way of tracking where they are and what they are doing.
Plus, you are forgeting about assimmilation-------people are coming here and not melting into the melting pot. We need to give time for all of the people who are legally coming into the country the opportunity to assimmilate and become part of the melting pot----before we continue to bring in millions more people.
Also, I have been following Tancredo for about a year----he is nothing like how you are describing him. It is just that he does not candy coat----he is just honest and tells it like it is!!
Also.......Did you not read the Lou Dobbs transcript from above??
"New evidence tonight of massive fraud involving the sale of American visas. And it presents a critical threat to our national security. Once people use those visas, of course, to enter this country, our government has no way tracking them or knowing whether they will, in fact, leave or when they leave."