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by Sophiya S.
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Norton Intro. to T.S Eliot

June 30, 2007 02:40 PM EDT
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Norton Introduction: T.S Eliot

Influences: Virgil, Dante, Milton, Ovid, Shakespeare, Donne, Herbert, James Frazer, Ezra Pound, among other writers were influential to Eliot's writings. Although not writer, he "admired Charlie Chaplin and wanted "as large and miscellaneous an audience as possible." (1419)
Influenced: Ezra Pound
Genres: Eliot wrote poetry and verse plays.
Cultural Influence: "Eliot was thus a product of that New England-based ‘genteel tradition' that shaped the nation's cultural life after the Civil War." (1418)
Style: "His persuasive style, a mixture of advocacy and judiciousness, effectively counter pointed Pound's aggressiveness, confrontational approach." (1418). His style was defined as having "high modernism".
Audience: He tried to make his writings accessible to everyone, despite their cultural surroundings. "However elitist his pronouncements, however hostile to modernity he claimed to be, Eliot actually drew very heavily upon popular forms and longed to have a wide cultural audience. " (1419)

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charles thiesen - gather's only god, proud to be from gay-supporting Massachusetts Jun 30, 2007, 2:45pm EDT
I don't understand. Are you just posting all your notes and assignments from school to get points? I like Eliot, but this makes no sense to me.
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Missy Cline Jun 30, 2007, 2:54pm EDT
excellent
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Sophiya S. Jun 30, 2007, 2:54pm EDT
It's simply an outline using the Norton Anthology as my source. They are from school.
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Sophiya S. Jun 30, 2007, 2:56pm EDT
thanks
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Jurpe {awallflower} Jun 30, 2007, 4:11pm EDT
Thanks for the info.
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Sophiya S. Jun 30, 2007, 4:43pm EDT
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Sophiya S. Jun 30, 2007, 4:43pm EDT
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Jerri H. Jul 1, 2007, 12:18am EDT
Thanks for sharing. 10
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Sophiya S. Jul 1, 2007, 9:21am EDT
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adam gamble Jul 2, 2007, 7:43pm EDT
could he have been friends with thoreau? i'm unsure of the dates when H.D.T. would have been in concord.any way i like the time and the place and the authors.
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Machiavelli Dayupay Jul 3, 2007, 8:50am EDT
I guess my curiosities are all answered...
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Machiavelli Dayupay Jul 3, 2007, 8:53am EDT
Thanks Siegriet...
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Sophiya S. Jul 3, 2007, 10:06am EDT
glad to help
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~JennyBean~ H. Jul 4, 2007, 10:59am EDT
I've tried very desperately to come to some kind of acceptance with T. S. Eliot, and it's been difficult. I took several classes at Uni that featured his work, including an entire course dedicated to him and try as I might, I could never quite appreciate him the way others did. Interesting info. Will you be analyzing any of his work?
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Sophiya S. Jul 4, 2007, 11:51am EDT
That's great. It's not easy to interpret his poetry since there are so many distinct dimensions to it.
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Arlene H. Jul 4, 2007, 12:07pm EDT
Try 'The Sacred Wood' (not poetry, essays). Read and enjoy 'The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock'. Read it out loud! Can you really understand 'The Wasteland' without reading Dante, Baudelaire, Shelley? You can try, but you'd understand it better if you knew the poems he's referring to.
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Sophiya S. Jul 4, 2007, 1:12pm EDT
Great recommendation. I'm ashamed to say I own it, but haven't read it yet. But I will soon
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vickie f. Jul 4, 2007, 2:00pm EDT
Thank you, it is good to read information instead for a change. I enjoy learning and
Eliot is a good read.
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Sophiya S. Jul 4, 2007, 3:19pm EDT
thanks
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John F Walter Jul 4, 2007, 6:16pm EDT
I just stopped by because you connected with me. I think you're providing a valuable service with these outlines for those folks that haven't read these seminal poets.
Keep up the good work, my friendly maven.
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Sophiya S. Jul 5, 2007, 1:45pm EDT
Thanks John. I'm glad to help!
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Barbara C. Jul 5, 2007, 7:43pm EDT
This is as reasonable to submit as an "article" as most of the postings I've seen.
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Sophiya S. Jul 5, 2007, 8:05pm EDT
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Win S. Jul 6, 2007, 9:53am EDT
What
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Diggersstory S. Jul 6, 2007, 10:21am EDT
kudos!
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Sophiya S. Jul 6, 2007, 4:58pm EDT
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Sophiya S. Jul 6, 2007, 5:02pm EDT
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J. G. Weddle Jul 7, 2007, 2:40pm EDT
I have not looked into the poetry of TS Elliott, but I will.
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Sophiya S. Jul 7, 2007, 5:58pm EDT
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Kimberly Ripley Jul 9, 2007, 9:05pm EDT
This will be very valuable information for us! I homeschool my two teenagers and we'll be doing a poetry unit soon.
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Randee "The Court Jester of LaLa Land ! ! !" always and forever, I just want to celebrate Jul 10, 2007, 10:28am EDT
Very good, hope you're doing good in school,,,Elliot is def. in my top 10,,thanks
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Sophiya S. Jul 10, 2007, 11:22pm EDT
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Bhawana 'Gather Proud Mom' Jul 11, 2007, 11:17am EDT
Oh...I can go and read him once again...Thanks for this reminder...
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Sophiya S. Jul 11, 2007, 5:31pm EDT
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~JOY ~bringing it 2 every1 she knows ;-) H. Jul 11, 2007, 7:48pm EDT
I enjoy reading T.S Elliot.
Thanks for posting.
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Sophiya S. Jul 11, 2007, 8:32pm EDT
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Paula Love Jul 12, 2007, 3:39pm EDT
db10 for your work
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Monika V. Jul 13, 2007, 10:02am EDT
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Patty Mayonaise Jul 14, 2007, 1:20am EDT
cool
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Sophiya S. Jul 14, 2007, 10:41am EDT
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Sophiya S. Jul 14, 2007, 10:41am EDT
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Donna K. Jul 14, 2007, 12:34pm EDT
I see! Very cool! It's an interesting method for proofreading and getting your information collated... put your thoughts and notes together. I like it. Now that I see what you are doing with your work, it makes more sense. It's cool too, like being in class with you. :-)
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Sophiya S. Jul 14, 2007, 7:18pm EDT
thanks donna =)
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Mary H. Jul 14, 2007, 9:56pm EDT
Thank you Sigriet. I found it very informative.
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Sophiya S. Jul 15, 2007, 8:52am EDT
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Mary H. Jul 15, 2007, 10:59pm EDT
I think it's interesting and full of facts.
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Sophiya S. Jul 15, 2007, 11:35pm EDT
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Sophiya S. Jul 15, 2007, 11:35pm EDT
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Kathryne Kennedy Jul 15, 2007, 11:55pm EDT
Thank you for sharing, Sigriet. Interesting & informative.:}
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Rebecca ~*Meow*~ B. Jul 17, 2007, 2:58pm EDT
Thanks.
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Sophiya S. Jul 17, 2007, 10:02pm EDT
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jessie voigts Jul 20, 2007, 10:51am EDT
interesting, sigriet - thanks!
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Sophiya S. Jul 20, 2007, 3:58pm EDT
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Marie Anderson Jul 22, 2007, 1:20am EDT
I would like to know how you did it, I understand that it a way to gather notes, and it is called, an anthology, I want to learn it too. I want to read more of this man's works! I love that.
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Sophiya S. Jul 22, 2007, 9:56am EDT
I'd love to help you Marie Anderson. I didn't write the anthology though, that was Norton. But I did gather and cite the most important facts. I'm so glad they have stirred your interest for Eliot.
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Clifford H Colpitts Jr Jul 25, 2007, 11:52am EDT
Thanks for reminding how great a writer he is.
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Sophiya S. Jul 25, 2007, 7:10pm EDT
your welcome =)
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gibbs williams Jul 26, 2007, 9:41pm EDT
There are only a few poets who speak to my direct experience. Among them are Yeats and T.S. Elliot. Thanks for reminding me.
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Sophiya S. Jul 27, 2007, 8:25am EDT
i agree
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anne h. Jul 31, 2007, 5:52pm EDT
Great info Sigriet..thanks
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Maureen Sullivan Stemberg Aug 1, 2007, 2:50pm EDT
Hi! Thanks, for the invite...love what you are doing here. Perfect "10"
~mo-zy
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Sophiya S. Aug 1, 2007, 7:10pm EDT
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Sophiya S. Aug 1, 2007, 7:19pm EDT
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Lisa M. Aug 1, 2007, 8:07pm EDT
interesting info :)
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Sophiya S. Aug 1, 2007, 8:22pm EDT
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Seshu BSR C. Aug 2, 2007, 12:10am EDT
Thanks for sharing.
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Sophiya S. Aug 2, 2007, 8:14am EDT
your welcome
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Sophiya S. Aug 4, 2007, 8:41am EDT
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Laurun M. Aug 4, 2007, 9:36am EDT
Thank you Sigriet. I think I'll start with the Sacred Wood.
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Sophiya S. Aug 4, 2007, 6:02pm EDT
your welcome
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Minakshi w. Aug 5, 2007, 1:21pm EDT
Good to see the information provided in such a compact form. I would love to see a full fledged article on some of his works.
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Sophiya S. Aug 5, 2007, 1:43pm EDT
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Eileen D. Aug 5, 2007, 2:16pm EDT
interesting, thank you. Enjoy your studies.
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Sophiya S. Aug 5, 2007, 5:20pm EDT
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Robert D. Aug 5, 2007, 6:50pm EDT
Particularly influenced by John Donne, the Bhagavid Gita, and The Golden Bough (about the "fisher king" myth in Arthurian legend). Read "The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock" as suggested, but his later work is better, especially "The Wasteland," then "Ash Wednesday" and "The Four Quartets" (that's the one he got the Nobel prize in Literature for. If you like lighter verse, read his poems "Old Possum's Book of Practical Cats." This is the inspiration for the musical "Cats."
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Sophiya S. Aug 6, 2007, 8:20am EDT
Wonderful information Robert!
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Robert - just a simple man - B. Aug 6, 2007, 7:37pm EDT
From Bob Dylan:

Praise be to Nero's Neptune
The Titanic sails at dawn
And everybody's shouting
"Which Side Are You On?"
And Ezra Pound and T. S. Eliot
Fighting in the captain's tower
While calypso singers laugh at them
And fishermen hold flowers
Between the windows of the sea
Where lovely mermaids flow
And nobody has to think too much
About Desolation Row
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Sophiya S. Aug 6, 2007, 10:31pm EDT
powerful words from such an influential icon
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Susan B. Aug 6, 2007, 10:40pm EDT
Siegrit - Is this a book review? Random information? Source?
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Sophiya S. Aug 6, 2007, 11:22pm EDT
i cited my source, the norton anthology
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Dave McGill Aug 7, 2007, 5:26am EDT
Sorry to be popping in so late, but I just caught up with you...

TSE was my late brother's favorite poet, and I always wanted to know more about him beyond the usual bio. You have provided exactly what I was looking for, Sigriet.....Thanks !!
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Kryistina ~*~ Frugal Diva Extraordinaire ~*~ Aug 7, 2007, 5:27pm EDT
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Sophiya S. Aug 7, 2007, 6:19pm EDT
glad to have helped, David!
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Sophiya S. Aug 7, 2007, 6:23pm EDT
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Payam Sudhakaran Aug 12, 2007, 4:45am EDT
Just remember reading him even when as in my primay school. "April is the crellest month.... " beigns Wasteland. It was quite a while I remembered him because life is really hectic that I don't have time to. But, thanks to your post, I'm once again in the world of Eliot....
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Sophiya S. Aug 12, 2007, 6:33pm EDT
wonderful
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**AngelEyez** a. Aug 17, 2007, 3:30pm EDT
db10
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Sophiya S. Aug 17, 2007, 10:07pm EDT
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Katie D. Aug 23, 2007, 4:40am EDT
The Lovesong of J. Alfred Prufrock is one that keeps coming back to mind so many years after studying it in school. Now I've seen it mentioned 3 times in the past week or two on gather. This is a great place. I remember the Norton Anthology too. Glad it's still being used.
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Sophiya S. Aug 23, 2007, 10:55am EDT
that's great! thanks
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Sophiya S. Aug 28, 2007, 8:26am EDT
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Sophiya S. Aug 29, 2007, 3:30pm EDT
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Sandy (back in Ohio...blah!) Aug 31, 2007, 12:32pm EDT
Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket Thanks for sharing.
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Faith is ready to be creative and enjoy her life! Aug 31, 2007, 2:16pm EDT
;interesting, what class was this for?
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Sophiya S. Sep 1, 2007, 7:11pm EDT
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Sophiya S. Sep 1, 2007, 7:13pm EDT
1920s english literature
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Timothy S. Sep 6, 2007, 11:25pm EDT
T.S Eliot was always interesting
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Ron J. Sep 7, 2007, 8:05am EDT
Good Job.
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BONGO MIRROR Sep 7, 2007, 9:13am EDT
Right after posting this, you send a connection request to ME? Oh! Man! Do you know how funny you are?
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BONGO MIRROR Sep 7, 2007, 9:14am EDT
OK. I guess it isn't right after...but...this was the last thing you posted.
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Sophiya S. Sep 7, 2007, 2:37pm EDT
lol, bongo your funny
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Sophiya S. Sep 7, 2007, 2:38pm EDT
lol