Texas Congressman and maverick GOP presidential contender Ron Paul is the debate stage wild card in the Republican push for the presidency. In debate after debate, after McCain and Giuliani and Romney and the rest have had their main-line say, Ron Paul turns over the tables.
He trembles with passion as he says the GOP has lost its way, above all in Iraq. He’s nowhere in the polls, but he’s all over the national conversation. A conservative who has GOP mainliners growling for his not toeing the party line. A libertarian who has libertarians sputtering over his ideological impurity.
Bush backers hate him. Disillusioned Republicans, and many others, have made him a cult hero, and maybe more than that.
Listen to an On Point conversation with the GOP's fierce fringe candidate for the presidency.
How is Ron Paul playing in your corner of America? Is he a crank, or a breath of fresh air?


Comments: 36
If we stop listening to who we're told will win and vote our minds, we'd end up with a great President, Dr Ron Paul.
The founding fathers of this nation and the principles they founded it on were once considered fringe ideas as well. As a nation we decided to undertake this experiment in liberty and, as we have benefited so much from it, we owe it to ourselves and our fellow Americans to continue that dream.
I'm as tired of bumperstickers and campaign slogans as everyone else so I say this not as a slogan, but as my honest and most sincere opinion:
A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for American liberty.
I am tired of hearing that our choice is Rudi or Hillary. They have millions in contributions? Where did it come from? Maybe thats who the interviewers should be badgering and maybe thats why we should reject them.
Send him $20. We need Ron Paul for President in 2008.
Of course, it takes real effort to avoid sliding down the curve into 6 o'clock, that despotic, autocratic, imperialistic, global domination stuff--where Shrub's ended up--deliberately--and "his" party's about at 5:45, along with the Democrats, who're at maybe 6:50. it takes real effort to stay up at 9 and 3 o'clock, respectively, But to get up to and remain at the very top of the circle--at high noon, "if you will"-- takes a HUGE effort and really unerring consistency. And, as many have said, "It's lonely at the top."
Mike "Mr. Metaphor" Gravel should be added to this list, up there around 11:55, but how many folks get his "rock" and "fire" Utube appearance?
The one thing I'm certain about, though. Neither Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich nor Mike Gravel should be excluded from ANY political debate which figures more than one contender for nomination. As Mr. Paul noted this morning On Point, or on On Point (seems a little redundant, no?), it is profoundly ironic, inconsistent--generally duplicitous, in fact--for those the media call "leading candidates"--to try to make these three gents shut up.
And the media might better be advised to stick with the substance the candidates offer--that's the 4th Estate's job, vis-a-vis government, certainly--rather than get back to the mindless, shiftless talk of who is "winning," "leading," "edging-out," "quick leaving the gate" race-track stuff. Continue on that tack and you'll be little better--or perhaps worse--than a common race-track tout. (Not to discriminate, of course.)
And good ol' Rudy Giuliani. Sigh. What can one say? That he "lived through" 9/11? That he was warning people to get out of the way because Building 7 of the WTC was "going down," or like Mr. Silverman, was it, who told a BBC interviewer that "we" or "they" decided to "pull" Building 7, and then "they pulled it."? That he facilitated the amazingly rapid exodus of crucial forensic evidence--the steel girders that melted because a batch of clever Boy Scouts, proudly sporting their Explosive Demolition merit badges, sprinkled a few hundred thermite bombs around and carefully wrapped the 47 interior core beams with thermite and/or RDX "beam cutter" shape charges--on pretty much every floor of two 110-story and one 47-story skyscrapers--that'd make 10,340 "beam cutters," just for towers 1 & 2, give or take. Or maybe only every other floor was set up for the fall, so 5,170, assuming that the floors were 15 feet apart and the explosively cut interior beams in the rubble were around 30 feet long.
Anyway, thanks to Tom for letting us hear a bit more from Mr. Paul. Now please schedule Mr. Kucinich. (I wouldn't schedule Mitt Romney until after he's paid his back rent on the Mass. Governor's office and residence--he was out of state campaigning for President for pretty much the last half of his term, using the Commonwealth's facilities as a nice apartment without paying his rent.)
mary j. June 21, 2007 8:50 CST
Also, I will tell everyone what is fringe. NPR's ratings. It's nice that they have on a great candidate like Dr. Paul, but I've listened to him twice in NPR programs now and each time the host has said something like "you know you can't win" or "your chances are nil. " Well, I'll accept that from an NPR host the day they have a rating higher than Dr. Paul's 2 percent in the latest Gallup Poll. What a bunch of dolts. I was polled recently over the phone. I was asked which Republican candidate I support in the upcoming presidential election. Guess what my choices were? Mitt McRomney and Fred Thompson, who isn't even in the race. Ron Paul wasn't even mentioned. I think it's actually a miracle that he's showing up at 2 percent! I can only imagine they way the question is framed by Gallup.
And finally, the federal department of education educates no one. It never has and it never will. When it didn't exist at all this country had a much better system of education. And if a guy like Bush or Gore, C students at best, is in charge of any education system, I fear for our children's tiny mushy brains.
V. Foltz RN
We are about to see the greatest mobilization of grass roots voters in history comming out for Ron Paul. He will save America one voter at a time. Live free!!!!
Ron Paul R3volution 2008
Why Would Any of You Believe ANYTHING That BIG MEDIA Has to Say??? How Can Someone Like Rep. RON PAUL Move-up a FIXED Ladder SET-UP by the Media That is in Control of the STUPID Questions They Ask & to Whom They Ask??? The Media Moderators Shun Rep. RON PAUL Like He Has a Contagious Disease!!! They Well Know if They Give Him Equal Time He Will Expose & Bury the Other 10 or 11 (How Ever Many Come into the Debates)!!! The Controllers of the Major Medias & the Establishment Are Terrified of Dr. RON PAUL!!! If There is One Thing For Sure, It Is You Can't Count On ANYTHING the Media Says in a POLL That Is Not FIXED in Their Favor!!!
Example: The First 2 Debates They Had a Poll at the End & REP. RON PAUL Won Both of Them. As You Noticed in the 3rd Debate There Were NO POLL or Interviews With ALL the Candidates!!! They Keep Asking RON PAUL the Same Questions Over & Over Again. They Ask Him From 3 or 4 Questions Over a 2 Hours Period While They Ask 20 or More to Their Hand Picked PUPPETS (The 3 Stooges)!!! If You Want More & More of the Same We Have Had For the Past 94 Years, Then Vote For Any of the Other 19 to 25 Candidates Because There Is Not 2 Cents Worth of Difference in ANY of Them… REP. RON PAUL Is OUR LAST CHANCE To GET OUR AMERICA BACK!!! If You Want Another "King George" Business As Usual Then Vote For Fred (The Head) Thompson… More Proof of the STUPIDITY of the Biased News (HaHaHa) Media, They Showed FT As being In 2nd to 4th Place in the Debate & He Was Not Even There – How Damn Stupid Do These Clowns Think We Are??? To Check The Voting Record Of The Real Man For The Office of President of the united States Go To: www.RonPaul2008.com Thank You, Dr. Joe Frazier
Also, I agree with the prior comments that the host was being unprofessional. It's fine to ask difficult questions, but his attitude and the "he has no chance" comments seem out of place for NPR. Leave that to people like Rush, who are paid to say those kinds of things.
I've got to say this man's down to earth straight talk contrasts so starkly with the rehearsed soundbites the empty suit Rudy McRomney throws about. I'll vote for this guy, heck, I'll send him some money. It may be too late too clean up the debt and bureaucracy this country is mired in, while no other candidate will even try, this gutsy septegenarian may get somewhere or be eliminated trying. GO RON
NOBODY explains Ron Paul
BETTER than Ron Paul himself!
Here is an interactive audio archive of
Ron Paul speeches and interviews as a resource in chronological
order.
http://www.ronpaulaudio.com
The rest of the candidates are nothing but corporate puppets...bought and sold by the special interest groups.
I am sick to death of the so-called news media, rather readers of what this present administration allows them to say, telling the American public WHO are the front runners!
There are no longer journalists...no investigative reporters...no one with guts and integrity writing the truth any longer.
I've not read anywhere, except for Ron Paul's website, that he has been excluded from the Desmoines Caucus this June...it should be front page news...where am I living? Russia, China...no Bushland...and it's worse.
Ron Paul represents us well because he knows and it is the duty of being American to know as well now that he is "out there" fighting for us. Many before him have made brave effort to clue us in and were labeled heretics or just done away with. We didn't listen then out of ignorance, will we listen now? I pray everyday that God protect him from the sad fate of those other messengers. We must all help him vanquish this nemesis not so much as "president" but as a free-speaking American politician who already has the ears of a more-informed, less-ignorant minority (who elect him to office every term despite the efforts to hide his legacy from the majority). The Presidency would be grand, of course. The media will not be his ally in this effort as it is his adversary's most powerful tool. Maverick media is possible though, and I pray we see it break into mainstream as Dr. Paul has…heroically. Already internet postings indicate the dam is leaking.
If the conservatives want to abolish the constitution or at least move beyond it and claim it is out dated then they should declare it and join the so called progressives. But if they want the privilege of saying that they believe that government should be bound and limited then they should get behind Congressmen Paul and quit trying to exclude him from the ongoing forums and discussions. I mean what are they afraid of, that he will expose them for what they really are.
His positions on foreign policy and domestic spending programs are much more aligned with the Republican platform than not and are very consistent with the ideas of the classical liberals of the 18th century. Either way, the policies he promotes has the potential to unite us as a nation and offers us more liberty as well.
Turn this country around, vote Ron Paul!
Me and about three other people have been holding the Ron Paul fort in this community for months. It's about time someone sent in some reinforcements!
Some friendly suggestions to some fellow Warriors for Liberty:
Go to "Publish an Image" from your Gather home-page, and publish an image that you want to use as your icon.
With all of you guys having the standard-issue Gather icon, its a bit obvious that you've all just joined probably from another forum. Which is great; I go to the AFTF and New Republic forums too, but I think Gather is the best because it is such a diverse community with many insightful and talented writers, so I'm thrilled that you guys have showed up here. We definitely do need to spread the message wide and far, and we don't have much time. The end-game is near, so its Ron Paul in 2008, or probably violent revolution as the only other means of restoring the republic; and nobody wants that, as the odds are much slimmer for us today than they were for the Founder's in the 18th Century. But if you guys all show up on threads, without an icon, it will be obvious to others on those threads what's going on, and they will get the knee-jerk feeling that Gather is being "invaded," so to speak -- and that will certainly hurt our chances of successfully informing enough people to make a difference. Try to blend in, if you know what I mean.
Always try to stay open minded when debating (remember, alot of people still haven't even heard about Ron Paul, let alone heard his message), and though there are quite a few belligerent personalities around this community who can't seem to participate in a coherent, civilized debate, try not to take the bait and resort to insults and personal attacks -- it can tempting sometimes, I know.
And if you guys haven't heard about this yet; G. Edward Griffin (author of "The Creature from Jeckyll Island," probably the most important book ever written) has created a new world-wide group called "Freedom Force International." It is a group of people who are committed to the cause of defeating collectivism through education, civil service, and activism. It's a great idea, its really well put together, and the webpage is full of fantastic information.
Heres a link: Freedom Force.
Its great to have you guys here.
I remember the post you made, and I knew it was satirical. I actually thought it was a brilliant comment; I wish you would have left it up!
If you check out my articles, I have written quite a few that were done in the same spirit of satire as your comment. You know; trying to make a point using "ad absurdem"?
The "belligerent personalities" comment I made certainly wasn't in reference to anyone on this particular thread. But if you guys spend some time around this forum, you will undoubtedly come across some of the ones I'm talking about.
There are some from all points of the so-called "political spectrum" around this community, who seemingly have no point of view other than that of how stupid or evil are those from the perceived "other side" of the purported ideological divide. These people generally offer little more than vitriolic rhetoric, partisan talking points, combined with name-calling, insults, and narrow-minded generalizations and sterotypes.
I won't name names, but I'm certain these people will show themselves to you guys.
I apologize if I came off as condescending or pretentious; but I just understand how crucial it is that we get Dr. Paul elected, and thus I understand how important it is that we get the message out, without alienating anyone or giving a bad impression of who us Ron Paul supporters are and what we stand for -- which would of course reflect poorly on Dr. Paul and hurt his campaign.
We all have to get Dr. Paul's message out in the most effective way possible, which means we should all try to set the best possible example. We just have to remember that alot of people are still sleepwalking through life, while thinking themselves informed. They still haven't been presented with the facts that show the real reality of American politics and who is really in control of our government and our lives. So we will get alot of knee-jerk reaction from these people, but try not to respond to it in the same manner in which it was given. Stand tall in your convictions and the knowledge you have, and try to convey that knowledge in a way that reflects the understanding and integrity of the man we are supporting.
The future of this great nation and our children's happiness and Liberty is depending on us!
Ron Paul in CNN debate on June 5, 2007!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwJKGfAWQUo
"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly. But the traitor moves among those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the galleys, heard in the very hall of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor---he speaks in the accents familiar to his victims, and wears their face and their garment, and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation---he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city---he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared.
--- Cicero: orator, statesman, political theorist, lawyer and philosopher of Ancient Rome.
"In the time of universal deceit, telling the truth
is a revolutionary act" GEORGE ORWELL
~Ron Paul
Tom Ashbrook is usually right on point...but he blew it this time! But, I am assuming that rerunning the interview is acknowledgment of the oversight.