Rosie O'Donnell has put her foot in her mouth for the last time on Barbara Walters ABC program "The View". This all came after a heated argument between her and co host Elizabeth Hasselbeck. Rosie was angry with Elizabeth for not sticking up for her after she insinuated that the "real" terrorists in Iraq were the U.S. soldiers.
Here is the genesis of the issue:
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O’DONNELL: …… I just want to say something. 655,000 Iraqi civilians are dead. Who are the terrorists?
HASSELBECK: Who are the terrorists?
O’DONNELL: 655,000 Iraqis — I’m saying you have to look, we invaded –
HASSELBECK: Wait, who are you calling terrorists now? Americans?
O’DONNELL: I’m saying if you were in Iraq, and the other country, the United States, the richest in the world, invaded your country and killed 655,000 of your citizens, what would you call us?
 After this exchange media outlets reported Rosie as calling soldiers terrorists. Although Rosie herself never explained her rhetorical question or what she really meant, she was furious that Hasselbeck didn't stand up for her.
"What you did was not defend me. ... I asked you if you believed what the Republican pundits were saying - you said nothing, and that's cowardly," O'Donnell said.
"Do you believe that I think our troops are terrorists? And you would not even look me in the face, Elisabeth, and say, 'No, Rosie,'" O'Donnell said.
Responded Hasselbeck: "Because you are an adult, and I am certainly not going to be the person for you to explain your thoughts. They're your thoughts! Defend your own insinuations!"
  I am sorry but anybody who is intellectually honest will say that Rosie got her butt kicked. She said things that were in hindsight stupid and then expects everybody else to carry her water. Grow up Rosie! Expecting everybody to cover for your running at the mouth while you duck and run IS cowardly.
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Comments: 19
Rex I agree. Rosie is a bully. The truth is that when ever 2 bullies finally agree to meet and settle who the real bully is after school the same thing happens. One bully doesn't show up and the other is relieved that he didn't. Rosie is the bully that chickened out against a mild mannered passive woman. She really looks foolish....
Dawn we can only hope.
I think you have to cut out just a bit of intellectual honesty to equate Rosie's statement with "calling the troops terrorists." sure, that's how it seems on the face of it, but it only holds water if you pretend we all have the thinking capacity of a third grader.
I'm sure everyone here understands the fact that TROOPS FOLLOW ORDERS. They don't ask questions. The President says invade, they invade. That's the way the system is set up, has been since the earliest days of civilization. Troops don't say "No sir, I don't think thats a good idea." They follow orders, whatever those orders might be. Can we all agree on that?
Also, bombs -- no matter how "smart" -- do not discriminate. They don't stop and ask if there are any innocent civilians present before they explode. They don't knock on the door of the building they have been targeted to destroy, and make sure the intelligence on who was in that buiding was correct, before they pummel said building into bits. And the pilots that drop those bombs take prders just like the soldiers on the ground.
I think, in all honesty, that the people who Rosie was comparing to terrorists were the policy-makers. The people who decided to invade Iraq on spurious pretenses, based on the flimsiest of evidence for justification. In that regard, she might even have a valid argument.
Invoking "the troops" has become the most tired tactic in the arsenal of Neocon foreign policy supporters. The troops folow orders. They do their jobs, and they do them well. Their sacrifice should be appreciated by all, whether one agrees with the policy or not.
The fact the Administration's policy has put our troops in such a morally troublesome quagmire -- wherein no matter how successfully they carry out their orders, the situtation just gets worse -- is what infuriates me.
And please -- if you want to cheerlead for an imperial foreign policy, and a systematic erosion of civil liberties in the name of a vague, indefinite "war on terror," all sustainable only by an ever-expanding central government, financed by the unconstitutional income tax and the hidden tax of inflation, then by all means go right ahead. BUT STOP CALLING YOURSELF "CONSERVATIVE!"
It's just sickening.
Steve, Why didn't Rosie say that? But that goes without saying. Second the number of 650,000 Iraqis killed is one created by anti-American "researchers and analysts". Why use a figure from an anti-American website when the U.N. says that the number of Iraqi deaths is under 60,000? Steve you have all the Rosie answers so I am sure you know this. Third, has the left really decides to claim that all those deaths by bombings in market places in Iraq are America's fault? If I was a terrorist I would love the fact that people like Rosie pins their good work on America and I would be inspired to kill more. Now THAT'S sickening.....
Thanks, Jeff. I didn't know that about myself. It's always good to have people like you around, to inform me of what my political viewpoint is supposed to be.
"""I think you have to cut out just a bit of intellectual honesty to equate Rosie's statement with "calling the troops terrorists." sure, that's how it seems on the face of it, but it only holds water if you pretend we all have the thinking capacity of a third grader."""
That was your explanation FOR Rosie not her own. I am glad to inform you Steve.
Don you are probably right. In terms all democrats can understand..... Rosie is like a bad case of the crabs.....she just won't go away.
I honestly don't think it requires any intimate knowledge of Rosie (of which I have none) to be honest.
Like I said, troops follow orders. Surely Rosie is aware of that. Those who wish to attack her and say she is calling the troops terrorists can pretend like they don't know that, but the fact remains; troops follow orders.
If you just read what you yourself typed, Rosie's exact words were "we invaded." Seems to me that this is clear indication that was directing her comment at the people who made the decision to invade, and everyone over age 10 knows that troops don't just decide to invade a country on their own accord.
So you can continue to think like a 10 year old, and say Rosie was calling the troops terrorists. It's all you.
After all, it goes right along with the childish logic of the president, pretending like it's the "General's on the ground" who decide foreign policy matters (a rationale that only pops up when it's someone other than himself who is proposing policy changes).
Rosie is such a touchy subject. She is to liberals what Rush can be to conservatives; open mouth, insert foot. I used to like Rush when he first started on the air, even if I disagreed with his points of view, he was really good at getting me thinking about "the other side" and how most issues are in shades of grey, not the black and white of conservative/liberal. But fame got the best of much of his rhetoric and I only peek in occassionally to see if he's come back home.
Rosie and her views on "The View" was strong and emotional; not thought out and rational. I happen to agree with her intent her tirade, but if she was looking for others to simply follow her blindly and support her, then she shouldn't be on a round table style talk show. Differing opinions is what makes such things interesting, (although I'm not a fan of "The View" thinking it rather fluffy and more deserved on Lifetime channel), and rebuttal should be expected, not blind following.
To clarify HOW I follow the line of thought of Rosie...Place yourself in the shoes of an Iraqi citizen. Yeah! Sadaam's gone, now please go home Americans. Once we entered Iraq, I honestly believed that we had to stay until their was stability. There may be no such animal now until we leave, and this will come only after a long struggle for power. Whether we are a positive presence or not, we are allowing America to become a scape goat for extremists to rally their troops. On the ground, Iraqis are like, "my neighbor/family was bombed because of your occupation...get out!" We DO look like terrorists, at least IN THEIR EYES much of the time, whether we deserve that title or not.
Remember, Jefferson, Franklin et.al. were considered terrorists by the British government; both Jefferson and Franklin had to flee their homes and hide out until the Revolutionary War was won. The use of such a word as terrorist is so open to interpretation to the user.