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by Edward Nudelman
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January 17, 2006

Four Poets, Four Poems on Hope

April 23, 2007 07:33 AM EDT (Updated: April 23, 2007 07:54 AM EDT)
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         ~ POETRY CENTRAL     Volume 2, Number 1      Four Poets, Four Poems on Hope ~ 

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While there’s life, there’s hope.  attr. Cicero, ca. 60 BC

 

I admit it.  I’m a glass-half-full guy, especially when it’s filled with Cognac or a really nice Burgundy.  In my poetry, if I write about very serious topics such as war, death or suffering, I try to give a nuance of hope, a roadmap, however buried in a metaphor or hidden in a seemingly converse tone, that might lead one to consider a way out, an overcoming.  That's just the way I like to write.  There’s a rich tradition in the history of poetry on hope.  I scanned my Norton’s Anthology and came up with four poets and four poems which deal very specifically with the topic of hope.  In fact, they mention the word in the title!  The poems are by John Keats, Emily Dickinson, Emily Bronte and Samuel Taylor Coleridge. 

 

You will find an interesting contrast between the first two poems, which are more salutary and treat the qualia of hope in a positive, upbeat manner, versus the second two, which come across in a much more dark, veiled way.   Still, one can find points of commonality in the ultimate impressions and conclusions drawn by the dissimilar poems.  As well, thinking about the concept and quality of hope from both viewpoints offers a unique opportunity to reflect on both the benefits of having hope as well as the utter dejection that might arise from losing hope.  Since the Keats poem is quite long, I’ve included the first and last two stanzas, and provided a hotlink to view the entire poem.   The others are fairly short and the entire poem appears below.  To help orient the reader, I've included a very brief biographical sketch of each poet as well as an introductory explication of the poem.  I hope you enjoy them as much as I do.

 

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John Keats (1795-1821) was one of the most acclaimed of all the Romantic poets.  Keats’ poems were highly charged with sensual imagery (i.e., Eve of St. Agnes), and is perhaps best known for his Odes.  In many ways, Keats led a tragic life.  Certainly, it was an abbreviated one.  Keats died of tuberculosis at the age of 26.  His poetry was not readily accepted during his short life, and he was criticized harshly in the periodicals of the day.  Keats poem, To Hope, written in 1815, is a monumental declaration of the power of hope.  In his poem, Keats personifies Hope, after a fashion, and capitalizes the word throughout.  Written in an ababcc rhyming pattern with eight flawless stanzas of iambic pentameter, the poem flows with striking fluidity.   A magnificent repeating couplet graces the poem:  Sweet Hope, celestial influence round me shed,/ Waving thy silver pinions o'er my head!   Keats uses the repetition of life’s stresses and difficulties to build tension, just as the beautiful resounding couplet gives resolution.  And we see the waving pinions and imagine their influence in our own world of stress “enwrapped in gloom.”

 

To Hope

 

v1

When by my solitary hearth I sit,
And hateful thoughts enwrap my soul in gloom;
When no fair dreams before my "mind's eye" flit,
And the bare heath of life presents no bloom;
Sweet Hope, ethereal balm upon me shed,
And wave thy silver pinions o'er my head!

 

v7

Let me not see the patriot's high bequest,
Great Liberty! how great in plain attire!
With the base purple of a court oppress'd,
Bowing her head, and ready to expire:
But let me see thee stoop from heaven on wings
That fill the skies with silver glitterings!

 

v8

And as, in sparkling majesty, a star
Gilds the bright summit of some gloomy cloud;
Brightening the half veil'd face of heaven afar:
So, when dark thoughts my boding spirit shroud,
Sweet Hope, celestial influence round me shed,
Waving thy silver pinions o'er my head!


by John Keats, 1825

 

  

Emily Dickinson (1830-1886) is one of the most beloved of all American female poets, yet she wrote in utter obscurity, and her poems were not published until after her death (except for a few published anonymously).  Dickinson is known for her unique and innovative use of grammar, meter, and vocabulary.  Her poetry attests to the influences of William Blake and Ralph Waldo Emerson.  She wrote over 1700 poems, all untitled.  Though Dickinson spent almost her entire life in seclusion, she was a very passionate, opinionated poet.  In her famous poem, Hope is the Thing With Feathers, we find hope equated with an imagined bird that lives in the soul.  The poem provides a sensual panorama of the peace and calming influence that that kind of hope can provide.  Finally, and perhaps above all, it asks for nothing in return.

 

Hope Is The Thing With Feathers

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Hope is the thing with feathers
That perches in the soul,
And sings the tune without the words,
And never stops at all,

And sweetest in the gale is heard;
And sore must be the storm
That could abash the little bird
That kept so many warm.

I've heard it in the chillest land,
And on the strangest sea;
Yet, never, in extremity,
It asked a crumb of me

 

by Emily Dickinson, 1891

 

   

Emily Bronte (1818-1848) author of the unparalleled gothic novel, Wuthering Heights, also wrote poetry, and together with her sisters Anne and Charlotte, issued a book of poetry entitled, Poems, in 1846, under pseudonyms.  She was born on the moors in northern England which shaped her dark and yet imaginative views on life seen in her novel and poetry.  She had few friends, and, like Keats, died at an early age from tuberculosis.  Emily Bronte has been called one of the great English lyric poets.  Interestingly, Emily Dickinson chose one of Bronte’s poems to be read at her funeral.  Bronte’s poem, Hope, is a fascinating “other side” look at hope daunted.  She likens hope to a timid friend, a sort of detached observer, yet cruel in her decision to remain at a distance.  Further, she compares that kind of dashed hope to “selfish-hearted men,” which may be construed as a social commentary on the state of women's rights during the period.  Bronte’s hope misleads.  It is treacherous, false and unrelenting.  All magnified, when contrasted in light of the benefits that true hope might afford.  The poem is haunting and dark, with an unforgettable ending line.  Yet, in the reading, one kind find points of identification in the harsh, petulant complaints of an individual who has experienced hope thwarted. 

 

Hope

 

Hope was but a timid friend;
She sat without the grated den,
Watching how my fate would tend,
Even as selfish-hearted men.

She was cruel in her fear;
Through the bars one dreary day,
I looked out to see her there,
And she turned her face away!

Like a false guard, false watch keeping,
Still, in strife, she whispered peace;
She would sing while I was weeping;
If I listened, she would cease.

False she was, and unrelenting;
When my last joys strewed the ground,
Even Sorrow saw, repenting,
Those sad relics scattered round;

Hope, whose whisper would have given
Balm to all my frenzied pain,
Stretched her wings, and soared to heaven,
Went, and ne'er returned again!

 

Emily Bronte, 1843

 

  

Samuel Taylor Coleridge (1772-1834), was one of the greatest English poets in history.  Coleridge, who wrote The Rime of the Ancient Mariner, Christabel, and Kubla Khan, is considered one of the principal poets of the Romantic movement.  He is known for his incomparable narrative voice as well as his shorter, meditative “conversation poems' (This Lime-Tree Bower My Prison and Frost at Midnight).  In the poem, Work Without Hope, Coleridge uses nature as a setting and backdrop to display the built-in hope which things like slugs and bees exhibit, that "work" without a thought or care, and certainly never entertain the thought of hopelessness.  The poem turns brilliantly on a self-comparison to the narrator, who cannot work, for he has lost all hope.  In some way, he has lost the object or purpose for his work.  It's not hard to imagine what kinds of emotional trauma can lead ourselves into a similar spiral downspin.  The emotional quality of this poem (really a sonnet) is striking, and the reader is made to see the utter despair and finality of losing hope.

 

Work Without Hope

 

All Nature seems at work. Slugs leave their lair -
The bees are stirring -birds are on the wing -
And Winter slumbering in the open air,
Wears on his smiling face a dream of Spring!
And I the while, the sole unbusy thing,
Nor honey make, nor pair, nor build, nor sing.

Yet well I ken the banks where amaranths blow,
Have traced the fount whence streams of nectar flow.
Bloom, O ye amaranths! bloom for whom ye may,
For me ye bloom not! Glide, rich streams, away!
With lips unbrightened, wreathless brow, I stroll:
And would you learn the spells that drowse my soul?
Work without Hope draws nectar in a sieve,
And Hope without an object cannot live.

 

Samuel Taylor Coleridge, 1825

 

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Written by Edward Nudelman, Books Correspondent for POETRY CENTRAL

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Comments: 130

Lisa J Apr 23, 2007, 7:57am EDT
Thank you. I enjoyed reading this.
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Katrina Hall Apr 23, 2007, 8:10am EDT
Ah, Edward, thank you for reminding me about these wonderful poets! Reading Keats takes me back to a very depressed and overly emotional eighteen years old, and Emily - Emily is like sitting in a favorite chair and breathing a long, satisfied sigh.
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Elizabeth Parsons Apr 23, 2007, 8:12am EDT
I can't tell you how much I enjoyed reading/re-reading these, especially the one by Emily Dickinson which I've read many times before. It's a sad thing that these wonderful poets weren't accepted for their magnificent work while still living. Even more sad that most of the poetry critics of today denounce the writing of poetry with rhyming. Although Dickinson is my favorite poet, I can relate most to the weariness and frustration expressed by Bronte in her magnificent poem "Hope". And Keats...goodness, his work is simply awesome in the extreme. Thank you for sharing this.
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Serina Matteson Apr 23, 2007, 8:14am EDT
Thanks for this most amazing piece on hope by brilliant writers. Their poems touched many feelings that I often feel struggling through many days.
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Carol Lloyd Apr 23, 2007, 8:24am EDT
so did I Edward ty for sharing them.
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Sue * Apr 23, 2007, 8:24am EDT
If someone had told me a few months ago that I would read this type of article and actually enjoy it-I would have been surprised. Of course, I am familiar with the poets you mention and I recall how my eyes would glaze over as my professors would speak their words. I now actually read with interest, I guess it is never too late! My favorite is the Coleridge poem. It may be simply because it is the easiest to understand for me, I'm not sure. I have always liked the style of Emily Bronte, as a woman I want to like Emily Dickinson but never have...and Keats is over my head. Good article, you really would be a good teacher in your next life.
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Carolion Grailbear Apr 23, 2007, 8:40am EDT
While reading Emily D.,
the Thing With Feathers covered me
in Light, O happy Love -
God RiverMind, Peace Dove.
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Richard B. Apr 23, 2007, 8:47am EDT
I'll add a fifth to that I got a date of 3-1999, but I know I wrote it prior to then

There's always hope

It's at the bottom of the barrel

Down there, where it's hard to reach

You gotta scrape it off
with your finger nails

As you get slivers in them
it's like an old wooden bucket

And you say goddamnit that hurts

so you say shit
I need that so
you scrape again and again and again

Then

who knows, god knows, you still can find hope.

Don't get what you want,
but you can always find hope.
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Sensational Sadie Sexy Senior Sitizen Apr 23, 2007, 8:58am EDT
Ah yes, Hope! We must all have it else our lives will be empty.
Dickinson and Bronte or as I refers to them, the Emilys, have long been favorites of mine. Thank you Edward.
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Ron (in complete sheeple overload) W. Apr 23, 2007, 9:04am EDT
Emily Dickenson's take would be my preferred one. Thanks Ed, had not read a couple of these for a long, long time.
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Mandi -Watch where the chalk-white arrows go. To the place where the sidewalk ends. S.S. Apr 23, 2007, 9:08am EDT
Thank you for this Monday bit of "Hope."

When my daughter was about 10 she learned "Hope is the Thing With Feathers."

She would recite it over and over and over... you would think now at almost 19 she would still know it, but it is gone from her.. I hope "hope" never goes though ;-)
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Faith H. Apr 23, 2007, 9:08am EDT
Edward, this is an enlightening discussion on Hope, perfect for a Monday morning! Your introductions and the poets and poems chosen are wonderful. I am, of course, a Dickinson girl from way back but I enjoyed all the selections. Thanks.
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Dawn M Apr 23, 2007, 9:13am EDT
Thanks for sharing these Ed. Remarkable poets.
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Edward Nudelman Apr 23, 2007, 9:35am EDT
Great comments! I particular like to hear how these poems have affected you in the past, impressions, points of identification, which ones speak to you. Like Mandi whose daughter memorized "Hope is the thing with Feathers," and recited it over and over again. Thanks so much for your kind remarks.
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DragonSoul !. Apr 23, 2007, 9:36am EDT
Great article Edward. Surprisingly (to me) Emily Dickenson's "Hope Is The Thing With Feathers" is my favorite of the four here, even though I have never been fond of her work. As with anything/anyone there's bound to be at least a few gems.
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Edward Nudelman Apr 23, 2007, 9:46am EDT
Dickinson's poem is timeless. Isn't it interesting how powerful the first line is (used posthumously as the title, but as stated above, she never titled her poems)? Note how important is the little word, "the" in "Hope is The Thing with Feathers."
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Robin"Buffy's Stunt Double" D. Apr 23, 2007, 9:55am EDT
Thanks for sharing these poems. I did not know some of the background information about the poets, though I recall reading some of their work.
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arlene (no shame in my game) w. Apr 23, 2007, 10:00am EDT
Very nice Nudelman.
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Edward Nudelman Apr 23, 2007, 10:03am EDT
Iris, I nearly put Pope's superb poem in here! Good call.
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Rose C. Apr 23, 2007, 10:38am EDT
Thank You so very much. I have forgotten so much since college. I kinda miss those days sitting in Literature class. Also, I love the comments by you and the gather community.
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Max Babi Apr 23, 2007, 10:43am EDT
This was a feast, Ed. Thank you so much, for highlighting four different poems with the same theme, it made great reading. On different occasions at different times indeed I have read all of these, but somehow together they make a new statement. Your suggestion that we readers compare them to see how differently each poet deals with the timeless topic, Hope, has been very useful to me. Like Elizabeth Parsons said above, the rhyming versions are certainly challenging for a poet to deal with -without bringing in an air of forced juxtaposition. Thanks and cheerz!
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Edward Nudelman Apr 23, 2007, 10:48am EDT
Thanks to all. Max, I appreciate that. Is it that we're out of practice, reading rhyme? Must be. Or that it hits us in a peculiar way. I think we've been sold a bill of goods by our postmodern critique that eschews "old forms," and especially rhyming schemes that hearken back to other "memes." It's exciting to see an opening up of rhymed verse in contemporary poetry journals, and, indeed, a whole new generation of poets not put off at all by the form, but more interested in sound and content.
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t b. Apr 23, 2007, 10:54am EDT
Morning Edward, I enjoyed these poems, (especially the ones from the dark side) but what I appreciated as much were were your brief, succinct biographical words on each poet.
After my own near death experience this year, I re-kindled some hope by planting seeds in the middle of winter. One of those tomato plants stands over four feet tall and is going outside today to face the sun for the summer. It has one tiny tomato on it...ahhh thats my hope coming through at the last minute.
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Paula B. Apr 23, 2007, 10:58am EDT
Thanks for sharing I enjoyed reading it.
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Edward Nudelman Apr 23, 2007, 11:00am EDT
Terry, I know EXACTLY what you mean. We planted literally hundreds of bulbs last fall and nothing was coming up (really harsh, cold winter) and now we're just starting to see the green shoots coming up. I'm sorry about your near-death experience, Terry. I'm glad your tomatoes are on their way.
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Ludie Gee Apr 23, 2007, 11:01am EDT
Dear Ed - Thank you, I found this article to be just superb. Loved it, and would hope to see many more like this. "L"
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Mark Scheel Apr 23, 2007, 11:19am EDT
Nice choices, Ed. And you've set them up beautifully. Excellent lesson in the power of verse!
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Jerry Stubbs Apr 23, 2007, 11:30am EDT
Ed, you constantly amaze me. Your knowledge of and interpretation of these poets is really good. I enjoy reading your work. I personally like rhyme. Most of my poems rhyme.
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Edward Nudelman Apr 23, 2007, 11:35am EDT
Hey Mark, nice to hear from you! I appreciate your comments. Thanks.

Jerry, great. I'll stop by and take a look.
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Alex M. Apr 23, 2007, 11:48am EDT
What a beautiful subject to write about and thank you for finding such wonderful poems for us.
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Lisa S. Apr 23, 2007, 12:02pm EDT
Great article, thanks for posting
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Sheila Deeth Apr 23, 2007, 12:05pm EDT
Thank you Ed. You are an inspiring teacher and I love your articles and poems.
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Jennifer F. Apr 23, 2007, 12:08pm EDT
I wish you had been my English professor. You make learning poetry fun and interesting and I've been exposed to so much new poetry by you. These were all poems that I was familiar with, but the way that you brought all four of them together added a new dimension. Thank you!
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Debbie G. Apr 23, 2007, 12:09pm EDT
Ed, I enjoyed thoroughly!
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Dolphi D. Apr 23, 2007, 12:20pm EDT
Edward – Thanks for the great selections. Your notes are very helpful. You are doing an invaluable service by creating love for celestial poetry in the hearts of ordinary mortals.
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Janna O'Donnell Apr 23, 2007, 12:31pm EDT
Great poems. My favorite is Emily Dickenson.
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Marinela Kotsina Apr 23, 2007, 1:20pm EDT
Thank you Ed, you are brilliant and always shine in many ways.
Wonderful poems !
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Sandra ~ D. Apr 23, 2007, 1:31pm EDT
Edward, wonderful article. And your biographical information and explanations of the poetry added to my enjoyment. Thank you !
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Atticus *. Apr 23, 2007, 1:37pm EDT
Thank you Ed, I always enjoy these informative articles of yours. You did a superb job in narrowing your comparison of poets down to one word. You also chose poets wisely in choosing poets from roughly the same time period. I really got a better sense of the nuance of each poet's writing viewing them in such tight contrast. Good work!
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Ken C. Apr 23, 2007, 1:42pm EDT
My comment... Hits the Soul! Some of my favs also."The Rime of The Ancient Mariner"
was my assignment in high school. I had to analyze it and memorize it(Can't today).
I hated it then but after reading it a few times later in life, I grew to love it and it is my favourite. I have several fav poets. Wished I could write poetry as well as they. Oh, and yourself.
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N B. Apr 23, 2007, 1:51pm EDT
Thank you for sharing the poetry. It has been a long time since I have read these. I thank you even more for your insights on them and the poets that wrote them..
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Karolyn Q. Apr 23, 2007, 2:19pm EDT
Very nice. Thank you for sharing.
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Kathryne Kennedy Apr 23, 2007, 2:28pm EDT
I didn't know Bronte wrote poetry...thank you for sharing this!
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Linda H. Apr 23, 2007, 2:33pm EDT
I enjoyed the poetry!They sure were thought provoking. Thanks.
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Ana B. Apr 23, 2007, 2:38pm EDT
Very Good!!!
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Penny G. Apr 23, 2007, 2:39pm EDT
I'm so glad you included Emily Dickinson in this collection. She has always been one of my favorites. I think her poetry is timeless, and she offers for many who generally don't like the genre a stepping stone to understanding and appreciating the beauty of poetry. Her verses generally say so much, give one great things to mull over, yet are so simple and succint...she never wasted a word.
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Edward Nudelman Apr 23, 2007, 2:46pm EDT
Penny, that's an excellent capsulized summary of Dickinson!

Thanks to all, I've sincerely loved reading each and every comment.
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Sedickah Abderoef Apr 23, 2007, 3:47pm EDT
Thanks Edward
You have taken me back to Secondary school and College, wonderful years!
Cheers
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Carol Roach Apr 23, 2007, 3:56pm EDT
thank you for this expose, I never had any formal training in poetry.
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Edward Nudelman Apr 23, 2007, 5:22pm EDT
Sedickah, why do we have to grow up, anyway?
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Howard b. Apr 23, 2007, 5:30pm EDT
Ed ,I need all the help I can get. I haven't read much poetry of famous poets. This was very interesting . Thanks for sharing a little hope.
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John Harris Beck Apr 23, 2007, 5:49pm EDT
Great work, Edward.
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Michael Reid Jackson Apr 23, 2007, 5:53pm EDT
Romans 5:1-5 reminds that suffering with perseverence leads to character which lead to Hope. Without which we all must perish.
And what is our Hope?
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Audrey F. Apr 23, 2007, 6:59pm EDT
A great article and analysis, Ed. I liked all four poems. I have experienced hope in all four of the ways expressed by these poets. I had not read any of the poems before. Thanks for sharing them!
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Elsie Duggan Apr 23, 2007, 7:12pm EDT
Ed this was wonderful. When I was in high school back in the forties, these are the things we read and English was my favorite subject because of it. Thanks for the stroll down memory lane and for your wonderful introductions to each poem.
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Richard B. Apr 23, 2007, 7:14pm EDT
Yeah Ed Emily

A favorite of mine also, in fact the only poet that I can call a favorite of mine.

Lazy was she. Dressed all in white so that she could wash all her clothes in one tub without sorting them. I tho, really think that she really liked the color white, as do I. I have many white shirts and only white towels and wash cloths as are all my underwear. I wash them all together with bleach and soap. Easy.

Emily lived alone most of her adult life and had only a few male friends, fortunately Wadsworth was one that helped her in her poetry.

The deaths in her family hurt her a lot as did the Civil War. One need only check her writing during those years.

A life alone after eighteen.

I can live alone and have for many years. I need only a dog and the birds and butterflies to keep happy.

I've read all of Emily's work and much more than once. I have no favorites. How can one have favorites?

Anyway dead at 56.

You make me read her work again.

I would distil a cup,
And bear to all my friends,
Drinking to her no more astir,
By beck, or burn, or moor!
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Fran S. Apr 23, 2007, 7:16pm EDT
very interesting, very wonderful poetry.... some of it I had never read before. Thank you so much for sharing this interesting posting with us.
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Magi the magical poet is riding the wind again Apr 23, 2007, 7:33pm EDT
Timeless poetry, Edward! Of the four selections, the one by Emily Bronte really stands out. This is an enjoyable series - and very well done!
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Kristen R. Apr 23, 2007, 8:00pm EDT
I really enjoyed reading this. I really liked the selections.
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samantha b. Apr 23, 2007, 8:12pm EDT
Thank you for posting this article & the poems within it!! I am a big Emily Dickinson fan even though it had been many years since reading any of her work. You have reminded me how much I do love her poetry. Your article is wonderful!!
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Kimberly Ripley Apr 23, 2007, 8:55pm EDT
This was like a journey back in time. Thank you for an excellent article!
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Andrea Grenadier Apr 23, 2007, 9:14pm EDT
Ed, this was such a joyful read; thank you. When I think of poems about hope, "Ithaka" is my favorite, by C.P. Cavafy. I hope you don't mind my sharing it here.
 
As you set out for Ithaka
hope your road is a long one,
full of adventure, full of discovery.
Laistrygonians, Cyclops,
angry Poseidon-don't be afraid of them:
you'll never find things like that on your way
as long as you keep your thoughts raised high,
as long as a rare excitement
stirs your spirit and your body.
Laistrygonians, Cyclops,
wild Poseidon-you won't encounter them
unless you bring them along inside your soul,
unless your soul sets them up in front of you.

Hope your road is a long one.
May there be many summer mornings when,
with what pleasure, what joy,
you enter harbors you're seeing for the first time;
may you stop at Phoenician trading stations
to buy fine things,
mother of pearl and coral, amber and ebony,
sensual perfume of every kind-
as many sensual perfumes as you can;
and may you visit many Egyptian cities
to learn and go on learning from their scholars.

Keep Ithaka always in your mind.
Arriving there is what you're destined for.
But don't hurry the journey at all.
Better if it lasts for years,
so you're old by the time you reach the island,
wealthy with all you've gained on the way,
not expecting Ithaka to make you rich.
Ithaka gave you the marvelous journey.
Without her you wouldn't have set out.
She has nothing left to give you now.

And if you find her poor, Ithaka won't have fooled you.
Wise as you will have become, so full of experience,
you'll have understood by then what these Ithakas mean.
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mary ellen mynning Apr 23, 2007, 9:18pm EDT
Your fascinating and intriguing examination of the poems on Hope by Samuel Taylor Coleridge, Emily Dickinson, Emily Bronte, John Keats were outstanding. Frankly, I have read Coleridge, Dickinson, and Keats poetry but I had never read any poetry by Emily Bronte (just her novel with my old love Heathcliff), so I was very pleased to have a glimpse at her from a different perspective. I also found it sad that it but illustrates how deeply trouble her life was. Thank you for sharing, educating, and expanding my mind!
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Barbary Chaapel Apr 23, 2007, 9:40pm EDT
Good stuff, Ed. Thank you, especially for Emily Dickinson.
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Teresa L. Apr 23, 2007, 10:29pm EDT
First a sigh, then a smile, and a nod of my head to acknowledge the peace that comes with hope. Thank you for sharing. Sweet sleep.
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Gerry Wass Apr 23, 2007, 10:36pm EDT
Bringing us back to our poetry roots, spreading hope throughout; this was totally flow, Ed.
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Barbara B. Apr 23, 2007, 11:16pm EDT
Edward, I thank you for researching my favorite poets. Keats..Dickinson..Bronte
and Coleridge. What wonderful memories reading these poems penned by them
were brought to mind. You are incredible Edward. Thanks.
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manoj sanyal Apr 24, 2007, 12:00am EDT
Great article ... and great reading. Thanks Ed for posting this.
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doria c. Apr 24, 2007, 12:05am EDT
I enjoyed all 4 poems.I fell inlove with Emily Dickinson when I was a child,I have a kindred spirit with her writtings,easily understood and familar.Hope is a wonderful gift,appropriate for all and easy on the pocketbook.Thank you for your time and knowledge Ed.
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Connie C. Apr 24, 2007, 12:50am EDT
This was wonderful! Thanks for directing me here.
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amarpreet k. Apr 24, 2007, 12:53am EDT
it was really wonderful...
I have read 2 of the poems before , one by Emily D and Emily B.. and enjoyed reading them again ...
all these poets of yesteryears had great pain within that was contantly stuggling with hope ....alas !they could not live longer to write more ..

thanks a lot for sharing ..
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Mary C Legg Apr 24, 2007, 6:31am EDT
I think that of these Emily D is probably the most easily recognized as she associates strong visual images to words

I think, but cannot find that Thomas More's last poem to his daughter most beautiful
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Shelly W. Apr 24, 2007, 8:39am EDT
Thank you for sharing the poems on hope, and the cover is fantabulous!Shell
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Ilsa E. Garcia Gonzalez Apr 24, 2007, 9:11am EDT
Thanks for sharing!
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Jen (I'm back for more!) G. Apr 24, 2007, 9:21am EDT
I had read the Emily Dickinson poem before, but was unfamiliar with the others. Thank you for sharing.
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Anne B. Grote Apr 24, 2007, 10:16am EDT
Keats - a real inspiration!
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Birdie Jaworski Apr 24, 2007, 11:28am EDT
Ed, you always put such thought and care into your correspondent pieces. They are little gems, each of them.

I like the Dickinson one best of this lot, ha! Because of the feathers, the birdness of it, of course. I learned things I did not know about each of these poets, and have a better grasp of their place, their time, their importance. Thanks.
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Barb P. Apr 24, 2007, 12:20pm EDT
I really enjoyed these...you always put together very interesting works to share - thanks! I often wonder what and how would these writers write in today's times? I love the thought and efforts they placed in all of their pieces.
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Otelia S. Apr 24, 2007, 12:31pm EDT
Ed
I knew of only two of these poets. John K and Emily D. Thanks for introducing the other two. Beautiful subject. I strongly believe in keeping HOPE alive!
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Vicky P. Apr 24, 2007, 12:36pm EDT
Hope springs eternally.
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Eleanor M. Apr 24, 2007, 1:45pm EDT
Thank You for posting these poems. I enjoyed reading them very much.
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Kathryn E. Apr 24, 2007, 4:13pm EDT
Incredible selection, Ed. Bronte and Dickinson are my favorite, but Keats and Coleridge are right up there, too. One of my favorite eras and genres of all English literature.
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Kathryn E. Apr 24, 2007, 4:19pm EDT
Incredible selection, Ed. Bronte and Dickinson are my favorite, but Keats and Coleridge are right up there, too. One of my favorite eras and genres of all English literature.
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Kathryn E. Apr 24, 2007, 4:20pm EDT
Incredible selection, Ed. Bronte and Dickinson are my favorite, but Keats and Coleridge are right up there, too. One of my favorite eras and genres of all English literature.
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Beverly M. Apr 24, 2007, 4:36pm EDT
Lovely choices. Thank you for sharing. I enjoyed reading them again. It's been awhile.
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Anne Marie A. Apr 24, 2007, 6:17pm EDT
I agree lovely choices and I like the topic of hope.
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Edward Nudelman Apr 24, 2007, 6:23pm EDT
Wow, Rubicon. Thanks for the compliments. I wrote them completely on my own, with my own brain, not even rearranging sentences or rephrasing what someone else said. It's my own brain. You have pretty strong words there... perhaps you should have checked my credentials before assuming I'm a plagiarist (I'm a published author with many poems in print)
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Edward Nudelman Apr 24, 2007, 6:47pm EDT
Rubicon, please take this up with me offline. You can find my published books on Amazon.com and my poems are in poetry journals all over. I'm not going to hold this conversation here.
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Edward Nudelman Apr 24, 2007, 7:21pm EDT
Rubicon, you force me to do what I hate to do.

It took me two seconds to get my list of books published by real publishers (not online publishing). You can find them here:

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw/103-0799108-2604625?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=edward+nudelman

I have over a dozen published poems: here is my officical bio which appears in these publications. You can google and them and check for yourself. I hope you like the poems:

EDWARD NUDELMAN is a graduate of the University of Washington and is working
in the Boston area as a scientist in the field of cancer research. Some of
his poems have been recently published in The Orange Room Review, Alone Together
The White Leaf Review, Adagio Verse Quarterly, Because We Write, Shine,
Thick with Conviction, Dispatch Lit Review and the Penwood Review.
He has received awards for his prose and has written two acclaimed books
on a 20th Century American artist. He is a head correspondent on poetry
for Gather, an NPR-funded writing vehicle.

In terms of referencing sources, I have hotlinks throughtout the article which are highlighted in blue which take you to sites where there is abundant source information. Most if not all blog writers use hotlinking and not a formal bibliography. NEvertheless, all of commentary in terms of explicating the poems comes from my own expertise. I have a lot of experience doing this. Having a PhD in Literature and/or creative writing would be nice, but I don't think it's a pre-requisite for good writing. If it is, all of the poets listed above failed abysmally. This WILL be my last communication on the subject.
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Emily Vaughan Apr 24, 2007, 8:27pm EDT
Is it just me or does it seem like some people come on here just to talk shit? What's with the sudden bursts of ignorance?

When I joined Gather and read through a few articles it seemed that it was a fairly intelligent, friendly place.... Are the jerks just coming out of the woodwork now?

You wrote a great article Ed; ignore those who would belittle you for speaking above their comprehension level. Just because they can't speak that way, doesn't mean that no one can. :)
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Granny Janny H. Apr 25, 2007, 2:18am EDT
The Bronte poem blew me away. This is one of the best articles ever ever written on Gather IMHO.
Thank you for stepping up to take this Proud Poetic Position at our Gather Post.
I am a fan and my name is Jan!
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amanda wallin Apr 25, 2007, 5:00am EDT
I'm partial to Dickenson because I grew up reading her work. Brilliant and inspiring examples of hopeful poetry. Just what I needed to hear right now. Thanks for the continuring Ed. Ed.
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deZengo m Apr 25, 2007, 10:18am EDT
First, I was not exposed to very much poetry growing up and aI appreciate your down to earth introductions with some explanation. I have followed some of your other pieces and generally speaking I have always really enjoyed them.

I read some of the comments above -- came to one that it appeared was a personal attack against you / your writing. Gather, just like any arena that has human competition, will be expected to find those who do not want you/me/others to succeed in reaching our dreams. I think you have enough positive feedback to rebuke any negative remarks, but I wanted to remind you -- that those who read the posted comments, learn a lot about the individual posting them! Most likely, more than I wanted to know about them, but our comments/words/actions are carried in the wind. They do make ripples in the world and WORDS ARE POWERFUL. I may not come across as the "best writer" or "most intelligent gather member." It is my hope that when my words and thoughts are read that I am judged or critiqued as an individual who wants to help heal the world through sharing my own experiences.

Good Luck and God Bless!
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