I know a family that is recieving Public Assistance and section8 housing. The members of the house hold are two little boys and their mom and dad. Although the dad is not supposed to be living there.
The mom, as I had said is on TANF from the welfare system, recieves food stamps and medical for herself and her two children. The dad was working and when he was working he was paying Child Support to the State for only one child. He has lost his job and now pays nothing-not even anything for the house hold. When this last baby was born, he wouldn't put himself on the Birth certificate, because he didnt want to pay child support on him. But he knows he is the father and lives in the house.
These people like to live frivelous lives and always have brand new, name brand shoes clothes, ect. Their sons wear Nikes and other name brands as well. All via the state.
I have no problem with people getting assistance, when they need it. There was a time that I had recieved it. But all of the hoops I had to jump through! it seems as if no one else has to abide by the same rules. I was not allowed to have anyone else get mail at my house, yet this man that I speak of gets his unemployment check and other mail sent directly to the appartment. there has been no investigators involved. Yet when I was recieving assistence, I had multiple investigators come at diffrent times, asking my neighbors abotu my household. And i wasnt doing anything wrong!
In my heart of hearts I want to report this to the authorities(her case worker at DSHS, and at Section8 office) But I dont want them to know that I had said anything.
I also don't want to recieve any bad karma for reporting this if I do, either.
But there are so many more people that need help. And when others are abusing the system, it gives a bad name to everyone. I had a bad name and was stalked by the government because of these people who fraud.
I would accept any advice any one maty have. Have any of you been in one of these situations?




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If you report it, the state is required to keep the tip anonymous. They are not allowed to say who called, and can go in and investigate by making an unscheduled home visit (which is legally allowed on anyone who is on federally or state funded assistance).
Additionally, if they are in HUD housing, and have more people living there than they have on their lease, you can report it to the office of the complex they are in. If they just get state assistance through the same office as food stamps, then report it to the case worker.
I live in a town that sits on an indian reservation. We also have a casino, which gives out a LARGE chunk of change to anyone qualifying in the tribe. Children get a LOT of money for care, plus even more set aside in trust until they are 18. At Christmas, there is a group that puts together an outreach program- food, clothing & toys all at one location for anyone who feels they need the help. They have to sign up ahead of time.
Two years ago, I drove my sister in law over to go through the pick up time and what not. Standing in line ahead of us was an indian family who were ALL decked ou t in designer brand clothing, purses, even things like gucci sunglasses. None of the clothing looked like it had been worn more than once. It just peeved me off that this group helps everyone who asks with no income verification, and then the amount of help each family gets is decided by how many families signed up. Then you have people who very obviously do NOT need the extra help standing there.
I knew families that year who only got the 1 toy they got from that group for Christmas morning, and I'm betting the family in front of us probably had a whole heck of a lot more under the tree.
I have nothing against people asking for help- if they need it. It's there for that reason, by all means, USE IT! But don't abuse it!
That man is setting a piss poor example for his family in the future. His son or sons will end up doing the same thing as dear old dad. And any girls in this family are a safe bet to marry or get involved with the same type of male as her good old dad. So the cycle repeats itself! This is very dangerous.
As far as bad Karma, Karma is both individual and collective and thus effects individuals, families, communties, states and countries. Not reporting this abuse has the ability to impact us all down the road.
The state that I received the assistance from had a strict outline though. You could only get benefits for a 2 year period and then you'd have to wait 5 years before you could re-apply. They would pay for eduction during that time to help you get established though. You couldn't add another child if the birth occured after the application. You had to file for child support or your benefits would be discontinued.
I think that regualtions like these in more states would help prevent the abuse that the system allows now.
You would think they would be on to schemes by now and fix the system.
This problems has existed for more than 35 years, when my kids were small. You'd see a family from a nice neighborhood, with nice clothes and house using their food stamps and driving away in a luxury car.
I agree with Roxanne - there are so many people who work and can hardly make it but they don't let other people take care of them.
Our state was supposed to institute a system like Tara said. There was such an uproar. All these people boo hoo ing about their benefits taken away. All these women with 6 kids all with different fathers and we are supposed to support them.
I feel bad for you - the people who need it get harrassed and the users get off scot free - don't worry about Karma they will get a swift kick from Karma. Turning them in is the right thing to do.
Just be careful because of Karma...get in someone elses business then it comes back to you. Great article tho
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