There is a news report today that the Bank of America is now actively offering credit cards to illigal immigrants. While you or I have to have a good credit report, offer proof of identity, etc. to obtain a credit card, all of this is being waived for illegals.
Now granted the interest rates on these cards is almost ursurous, but that doesn't excuse this bank from intentionally scoffing at our immigration laws and aiding and abetting criminals who are here illegally. The company defends its decision to do this saying they are merely trying to "grow a segment of their business."
How exactly is this practice any different than the other business scofflaws who hire illegals knowing that they are illegal? At some point congress and the president are going to have to get serious about stopping the flow of illegal immigrants into this country and removing those already here, or encouraging them to self-deport and return legally. Personally I am outraged that any American company would do what Bank of America is doing, and that they can continue to do this without any legal repercussions. This amounts to allowing them to discriminate against legal American citizens in the offering of credit, by giving illegals much easier rules to qualify for these credit cards than are required of legitimate residents.
While I know that it won't do a bit of good, I canceled the Bank of America credit card I had today and told them exactly why. I also told them I would be posting this message and encouraging everyone I know to do the same. Will they? Nah, probably not, but one person has to do what they can. This is where I draw the line.
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Problem is Winston is his Basset Hound. So need I say more.
It is unfair that illegals don't have to prove their identities. If they want the benefits of our system then they should have to abide by it's rules rather than expect or get special treatment because they broke the law coming here in the first place. When we who are here legally break the law we get arrested.
I imagine I could really deck out the condo in style that way...
I don't disagree about the bank's motives. I do disagree about the rest. BTW, only I decide what I do and don't "dare to tell someone.
Every sovereign nation has the right to determine who and under what conditions others are allowed to come here. There are rules that must be met. We truly do live in the land of the free, and we also allow others to live here. Millions come here legally every year. What we do not, and should not do is allow others to decide for us who we need here, who we want here, or who we will allow to live here.
Every sovereign nation has the right to control its own borders. Anything less is chaos. Our prisons are already overflowing with illegals. The cities deal with gangs and drugs every day. There is no logical reason why these people need to be here.
I have absolutely no problem with immigrants who come here under our rules and live by our laws. I will also willingly concede that our immigration laws need to be modernized, streamlined, and made less onerous in terms of time and money. Be that as it may, however. The laws are the laws. I have no use for anyone whose first act in coming here is to break our laws over and over again. So again, you're wrong. Like it or not, as a sovereign nation the U.S. government not only has the right it has the obligation to decide who comes here, in what numbers, from where, and when.
Before you go making judgement calls on the rules and regulations and LAWS requiring certain requirements before you can live and work in the United States legally, I suggest you go read up on the immigration laws for Mexico, Snookiedimples.
Get back to me after you've read about the restrictions on jobs and other things that the MEXICAN government imposes on immigrants to that country, Kthksbye
If I am not mistaken, every single one of the 9/11 hijackers was here illegally, having, at the very least, overstayed their visas. They murdered friends of mine and I don't care how unhappy they were living in the middle east.
Antonio? How and why do you expect someone who is here in open violation of our laws to be treated with dignity? They are criminals and are treated exactly as that. It's not our problem or our obligation to solve the social problems of every other nation on earth. We haven't even solved the basics such as job, education, training, and health care for our own people. It's ridiculous to expect us to spend money on people who have come here illegally.
To be honest, I would be perfectly willing to accept Mexico's immigration rules and apply those to their citizens who are sneaking across our borders. That should be fair enough for you, shouldn't it?
The bottom line is that I would go the extra mile to help a legal immigrant family if they fell on hard times and needed my help. I would teach them English because I'm a trained language instructor. I'd teach them out customs and learn theirs. I'd help in any way I could. They earned there way here. For the illegals, I would cheerfully hold the door out and tell them not to let it slam them in the butt on the way out.
I realize that sounds harsh. The problem is that we have so many domestic problems here that it's unrealistic and unfair to ask us to try to fix all of the ills of this society before we've managed to even take a decent crack at our own. Why should a citizen pay more than an illegal to go to college, for instance?
I have no problem with that as long as they do it legally and do not ask anyone else to pay for their choice. As long as they can follow the rules established for their immigration to another country of their choice- great. And as long as they can pay their own way.
If you want to truly resolve the issue of immigration, you have to look at it deeper - on a psychological level.
Psychology doesn't pay the bills.
Has it occurred to you that the reason illegals are so often involved in gangs and drugs is, ironically, BECAUSE they are illegals? If a man is not treated by a society with decency, he will not act with decency. If a man can not find work, or any solace whatsoever, his reality will turn to one of despair.
I think you have that backwards. It's about personal responsibility. If a man doesn't act with decency he will not be treated decently, nor should anyone be required to accept this from him for any reason and certainly not one that he can find which blames anyone other than himself for his own behavior.
And if a man cannot find work and he's in this country illegally, he needs to go home, not act out in retaliation. We are under no obligation to provide jobs to people from other countries. To suggest that if we don't give him work and he then then commits a crime, that it's our fault he did so, is just ludicrous.
Has it occurred to you that the reason illegals are so often involved in gangs and drugs is, ironically, BECAUSE those who are involved in such things are gangsters and druggies?
While I fully understand the humanitarian impulses that govern such thoughts, I also realize that to actually give into such nonsense would result in chaos on a grand scale.
The answer when someone tells you that your house argument is ridiculous, which some here have said, is that people have a property interest in their home wich they are entitled to protect against intruders and people have a property interest in our country which we are legally entitled to protect.
And, I also canceled my BOA credit card.
In addition, since illegals are sending the bulk of their earnings out of the country, and most do not pay taxes etc. it's another drain on our economy. The bottom line is that the quickest way for us to become a third world nation is to open the doors and let anyone in for any reason. You can see this already if you go to parts of Los Angeles or other southwestern cities. Parts of these cities look exactly like the villages I visited in Venezuela.
One thing I took away from my trip there, since I was out in the general population and not in the tourist areas, was the realization that the United States could end up like that as well. Poverty, ignorance, lack of education, crime, etc. breeds more of the same. I'm not saying that some of these people are not good people. I am saying I don't want my country to become one in which dirt floored houses without indoor plumbing are the rule rather than the exception.
I am not unsympathetic to the plight of people in other countries, but the sad truth is that in most countries where people wish to escape, the reasons are poverty, ignorance, etc. That doesn't miraculously change when these people cross the border. If they are poor, uneducated, and unskilled on the Mexican side of the Rio Grande, for instance, they are going to remain so here.
Your basic problem is that you think that well trained, educated, middle class people are coming across the border as illegals. I would bet dollars to donuts that if you check you will find this to be entirely the opposite in all but a few isolated cases. These people don't suddenly forget how to speak English for instance, or how to read and write when they cross the border. They don't suddenly decide to take up criminal activity either. A person is never put into the position of being an illegal immigrant other than voluntarily.
I freely admit that the system needs to be fixed to make it easier, less time consuming, and lest costly to come here. In the end, however, that's not going to help those who jump the border. These people will still be the bottom of the economic scale. I'm sorry for these people; I just do not believe that it's the job of my country to lose its identity and its prosperity trying to cater to them. There are only so many field labor jobs or other such in this country and those should for the most part be going to Americans. The argument that Americans won't take most of them is simply not true. What is true is that the employer will not pay a decent wage if he can get an illegal for much less. Which is another reason for not having illegals. Why should they work for less than a decent fair wage?
In the end we have to stop illegal immigration by going after the employers. At that point the illegals will self-deport. We can even offer them a ticket home to be charitable.
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When I traveled in Venezuela (no, not the tourist areas) I saw poverty on a scale I could hardly conceive of. I do not want my country to be like that. I don't want a two class society that consists of the super wealthy and the super poor. The existence of a vibrant middle class is one of the reasons the U.S. has avoided a lot of the political upheavals extant in other societies.
Am I saying that an illegal immigrant is a criminal by nature? In one way yes I am. How else would you view a person whose first act in this country is to break numerous laws? Then if they find a job they choose to break even more. Get a driver's license, still more laws broken. It's not a matter of whether or not you agree with those laws. In an orderly and lawful society you don't get to pick and choose which laws you will abide by and which you will not. There is nothing inherent in being poor or in being illegal that should lead you to run with gangs, commit crimes, become involved with drugs, or even rob the local 7-11 for that matter. So committing those crimes is actually a choice.
What I am not saying is that the immigration system itself is not badly broken. It takes far too long and is far too complicated and far too expensive to come here legally. The system needs to be fixed. But even were it miraculously fixed tomorrow, it wouldn't help the vast majority of illegal immigrants because they would not qualify to come here anyway. At the very least a person wishing to come here should speak the language, have sufficient education to be considered literate, and have skills that are needed here in some way. In addition, they should have sufficient financial resources to take care of themselves without burdening our social system for at least two years. How many current illegals would meet even a quarter of those requirements?
The bottom line remains one on which we agree. We need to go after the employers big time with hard jail time every time they are caught employing illegals. That alone would quickly solve the problem.