Actually, allow me to thank you for decreasing the dems slim chance of taking a majority. Without guys like you, libs actually might have pulled it off.
Now, if you do want to apologize, please wait till Monday - that will work best for us. And by all means, grovel.
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I read the Headline and my blood started to BOIL! Now I see that it was just a lure to catch readers. Nice Job! You certainly reeled me in. Now, just don't mount me on the wall.
Seriously though, he didn't apoligize in his latest statement, defiantly saying it's Bush who should be apologizing to thr troops. If this incident doesn't show the American people just how little Kerry and the rest of his liberal Democrat brethren hold our troops, and the rest of us "great unwashed", nothing will.
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Seven Days to Election 2006 -- Change of Direction or Stay the Course?
I feel that President Bush has made an equal amount of insulting remarks as Senator Kerry. I don't feel that Mr Kerry's remarks were directed at our troops, but at The President. It was the context in which they were said that may have given others a different perception of the intended message. These are the closing days before the elections and the candidates are stepping up their attacks against each other in a viscious tone. The Democrats want to gain power, and The Republicans are in an equally desperate state of passion to try and hold onto their jobs, while they are overall falling behind in most polls. Theresa Heinz Kerry did put her foot in her mouth during the 2004 elections, which may have cost her husband who lost the Presidential election, which was decided by Ohio. Mr Kerry lost Ohio by only 100,000 votes. This election was narrower than the 1960 election, in the which the losing candidate Richard Nixon had 240 electoral votes. Mr Kerry had 252. Besides the 2000 election, this was indeed one of the closest elections in history.
I didn't agree with the comment that Mr Kerry doesn't admit when he is wrong. I have seen President Bush make many mistakes and not apologize. I feel that the troop concentration needs to focus more on Afghanistan and capturing Bin Laden.
I don't want to offend anyone in saying that I can see Iraq as another Vietnam, but on a smaller scale. In Vietnam we lost close to 60,000 men. I had a cousin who went and didn't return, and an uncle who went for a year and returned. The Middle Easterners are like the Vietnamese in terms of being highly resistant. It is in the blood of Middle Easterners to be in continual conflict, as this has been going on for thousands of years. It is very difficult to try and change their behaviors. We have been trying for many decades to achieve peace in The Middle East. Jimmy Carter, while not a popular President, did have a high point in his Presidency when he linked peace between Israel and Egypt. After being very detrimental, Libya has finally started to make a significant turnaround for the better in terms of that country's views towards our country. There are plenty of other Middle Eastern countries that are going to take a very long time to join peaceful resolves.
I don't feel that Senator Kerry would be a strong candidate in 2008 and that there are other Democratic Candidates who would be stronger. If I had to pick a Republican Candidate, I would pick John McCain. He is a good man. I am not a supporter of President Bush and am among the majority dis-enchanted with his job performance.
Alan - What is at issue here is that Kerry just put his foot in his mouth 6 days before the election. He proved he's a snob (once again), and screwed his own party (once again).
cORY - my father served in the Navy, he was a pilot and when he got out he flew his entire career with TWA. Is he an idiot? My oldest brother served in the Navy too - on a nuclear sub. And my younger brother served in the Army, Special Forces. Believe it or not, there are all kinds of people in the military... I came from an upper middle class, so I don't think my brothers joining had anything to do with being stupid or poor. Rather, they wanted to serve - they saw it as an exciting opportunity, and they love their country.
There are young people that are signing up NOW - and they know we're at war. Those are truely the bravest - and we can only be proud of them... not insulting like Kerry.
"You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."
His explanation was this according to an NBC affiliate:
Kerry, a decorated Vietnam veteran and President George W. Bush's 2004 rival, fired back.
He said he had been criticizing Bush, not the "heroes serving in Iraq," and said the president and his administration are the ones who owe U.S. troops an apology because they "misled America into war and have given us a Katrina foreign policy that has betrayed our ideals, killed and maimed our soldiers, and widened the terrorist threat instead of defeating it."
"This is the classic GOP playbook," Kerry said in a harshly worded statement. "I'm sick and tired of these despicable Republican attacks that always seem to come from those who never can be found to serve in war, but love to attack those who did. I'm not going to be lectured by a stuffed suit White House mouthpiece standing behind a podium."
Hard to do when you don't show up! or what, there was a campaign there he wanted to work on?
Ron - as for Bush's record on serving, I just hope you're not referring to the Dan Rather documents.... I think those have been completely discredited.
You guys are slipping - and we're just a few days from the election. What's up with that? If you run the country like you run your campaigns, geeezzz... i might have to move to Canada or somthin'...har har.
Oh, I don't argue it was an unfortunate comment, and should not of been made, but I also know his intent was as far from what these chickenhawks are trying to say it was as Bush was from his last guard unit. He was criticizing Bush, not the troops, or maybe he was referring to the fact they have lowered the test scores needed to enlist, but I know he did not mean to criticise the troops in Iraq. Many people should be criticizing him possibly, but not that crew of chickenhawks.
Did you notice how quiet the white house was until they were proven false, though? They never said a word. Wonder why?
They were crapping their pants, that's why.
Remember how they said Karl Rove was going to go down for leaking Valerie Plame's name. Gee... never happened did it. And did you notice how quiet they were? Because they knew it would eventually come out that they had nothing to do with it.
It's called being smart, Ron. You should try to get Kerry to try it sometime.
I've seen you bend the truth a lot, but that is a lie.
Go back up the page there and read what he said, it's up there. You are a liar.
I give as good as I get. I've seen you slapped around a few times, yourself.
To me it sounds like he is giving advice to your country's youth, while elliptically criticising G.W.Bush. I wonder what would have happened had it been the other way around.
You want to talk about disrespecting our troops, where were you when all the drunken delegates at the Republican convention were wearing purple hearts?
You are delusional, you may have tried, but you have never won any argument that I've seen. Maybe in your mind.....
"He said he had been criticizing Bush, not the "heroes serving in Iraq,"
Must suck to have to lie to carry on anargument.
It's been spun that way, and may be a political liability, but this may backfire too, if people listen to the real statement, and listen to Kerry's reply to Snow. It all depends on the media.
STFU I'm trying to answer two of you. Give me a second or two
That's not what he said, and you know it. But you obviously don't need my permission to lie. Go ahead.
And for the record, I heard the explanation before I heard the statement and I didn't get any of it from Fox. He screwed up.
Now why would he apologize to the troops when he clearly said he was criticizing Bush, not them. He calls them heros.
Because his statement doesn't change the fact that people hearing the statement heard it as denigrating the troops. Maybe if he didn't have a history of that sort of thing, he wouldn't be in such a big quagmire now. He owes the military an apology.
An ex post facto statement calling them heroes does not erase his blunder or the pain I am sure it caused many families. It is like spraying air freshener after your dog shits on the rug instead of cleaning it up.
Ron, I'm not a chicken hawk. I served my country in uniform. John Kerry has got NOTHING on me. I have ever right to criticize him because what he did today was GUTLESS. He attacked the President of OUR country and the Commander-if-Chief of the military (so technically, Bush is active-duty now) and used our brave servicemen and women as props for his tawdry political attack. There is NO excuse for what he said.
Sure, it came back to clarify his statement. It sounded more to me like, "I didn't insult the intellegence of our troops before I insulted the intellegence of our troops. And, besides, Bush is bad ... BAD."
And, don't get me started on Murtha. In my opinion, as a vet and the father of a vet, that SOB urinated all over his Bronze Star though his false statements and accusations concern our troops. He's got no credibility as far as I am concerned.
At any rate, Kerry certainly handed a powerful tool with which I have no doubt the Republicans will use to show exactly which party truely supports the troops and which one merely claims to whwn the camera is on them.
Ok... Bush is 'in' Iraq, but so are our troops. Kerry was saying if you do bad in school, you'll get stuck in Iraq, which equates to: if you are stupid, you'll be stuck in Iraq.
Kerry showed us his true feelings, and that's ok if that's who he is - a troop hater.
If you want to forget the facts and make believe George Bush isn't a puppet and a mass murderer, fine. He can't hold a candle to John Kerry who DID serve and fight in Viet Nam and I'm NO fan of Kerry. If he was elected at least he would have brought complete sentences back to the whitehouse. With all the completely moronic, illiterate comments made by this embarrasing excuse for a president we have, holding our country hostage and destroying the middle class, anything that Kerrry could have said doesn't even begin to compare on the moron meter.
The fact is that the Republicans are so beyond desperate that they'll jump on anything and everything and now we can all be distracted by what a terrible person Kerry is, again, and how he put down the troops. But, he didn't kill any of them, Bush did. And by now, we'd be out that quaqmire of no end, and it's this aministration which is responsible for every single american death over there in a war of choice, leaving the soldiers in Afghanistan without any support and the soldiers in Iraq without body armor and at the affect of Haliburton to the tune of 1 billion dollars a week.
Get over it and stop being such patsies for this bate and switch administration that thrives on lies and depends on war profit at the hands of our poor and middle-class kids who chose the military as a backdoor into college, while the rich kids go to school and then into business or whatever the want. - And if anyone is wearing blinders it's those of you who have no clue what it means to be an american and what a democracy really means - not to mention the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
I remember Viet Nam - we supported the troops coming home, not dying in that hell-hole. Now, it's the same, you're right - those who want peace are unamerican and those who want to kill and allow fellow americans to die are just ducky. Well, it takes more than a yellow magnet for your car to support the troops - I want to bring them home safe and sound and you want them to die and kill - I think this is so sickening that in another two years we'll be having a real civil war - not this kind of civil war we're having now. I wish just one of you would read the Constitution and if you have, read it again. You need a refresher course.
In truth, you're all scared that finally, the tide is turning and if there isn't a democratice sweep in this country next tuesday, is just because we haven't had an honest election since 1998 and this is just another example of the fascists in power refusing to let go.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLuMWiQ6r2o
After watching the clip of the original statement and then his explanation, I can see where he's was inartful in his slamming of Bush and how that initially was misconstrued. I'll accept that explanation.
However, I still believe that what he DID -- i.e. ise our troops as a prop to take a swipe at THEIR Commander-in-Chief is inexcusable. He's got every right to say, but I really can't believe that a guy is is supposedly as smart as Kerry says he is, didn't know what the reaction to his "joke" would be.
Maybe he "thought it would be a funny thing to say, before he thought is would funny and stupid to say."?
What planet did you just come from??? Kerry is a long standing joke with an ever humorous punch line. This guy was made for video. I am just surprised that he can walk off the stage after an appearance because most of the time he has both feet in his mouth.
Oh swami, tell me what I am thinking right now, would you? He didn't mention bush, and he didn't mention the troops, either, but he had spent the whole day campaigning and criticising Bush, and his policy in Iraq, now, you know how lame the guy is, and I don't even have to think about it, he was trying to be funny, ha ha, he's miserable at it, but he obviously was talking about Bush, a C student, and him ending up stuck in Iraq. Spin it up all you want, but that's what he was doing, I have no doubts. He's just so lame when it comes to humor, it sucks.
The guy is still so full of resentment over his swiftboating, he wasn't about to apologize when he hadn't said what they were saying he said, and although I can understand that, he probably should have explained his side of it better than he did, and like Nanci said, apologized to those that thought he meant the other. Hopefully, a cooler head will prevail.
All kidding aside, I DO understand that Kerry basically put both feet in his mouth, with his shoes on. That just goes to show you that Lurch-look-a-likes with the sense of humor of a potato, shouldn't try telling jokes in public. That's not where I have a problem with what he said.
Kerry used our troops -- OUR -- troops, as foils to slam OUR President and THEIR Commander-in-Chief. That's not even an appropriate joke -- and, again I'm buying that it was a poorly told joke. He shouldn't be joking about that.
It's the fact that if he's so smart, why the hell didn't he think of that ahead of time? And, if he really ISN'T all that smart, then who's been BSing who all this time?
Don't mess with the people who keep you free
Don't mess with the ones who get up in the morning not knowing if they will ever return
Don't mess with the ones who volunteer to keep you safe
Don't mess with the ones who put their lives on the line so that you can make your "jokes"
Don't mess with the people who proudly put on their uniform each and every day
Don't mess with the people who served with me and all my fellow veterans.
Basically Mr. Kerry "Sir" STFU
Don't ask me about Kerry, I'm still bitter the powers that be anointed him after Iowa when there was half the primaries to go. There were better choices.
I want some of whatever it is you're drinking
Thanks for hosting this tussle, I think I'm talking to myself here, so goodnight.
He then added you know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."
Now, perhaps had I been a poorer student maybe I'd think this was about the troops. But then, if vets and thje troops are upset, hmmm. Not going to go there.
"depends on war profit at the hands of our poor and middle-class kids who chose the military as a backdoor into college, while the rich kids go to school and then into business or whatever the want"
You are saying pretty much what Kerry said. Can I ask you this: why is it that our troops are only to be seen as being taken advantage of, and having to make choices because they have a bad lot in life? How is it that liberals see everything in a certain way?
I was raised upper middle class. My father served as a pilot in the Navy, then flew for TWA his entire career and ran a businees. He made plenty of money. Two of my brothers served. They did it because they wanted the experience. They loved their country.
Libs just don't get it.
Sorry James He made a joke "State of Denial" and then moved onto another subject. The uneducated going to Iraq. One does not relate to the other. Why is this so hard to understand.
I think schizophrenia originated in Massachusetts. It's an effect of too many Noreasters.
As I said before in your mind
Save your breath, you're in Indian country here.
Explain this .
Today the US military was order by the prime minister of Iraq to remove all road blocks and barricades from the streets of Sader city that have been in place for the past 10 days
The US military has complied with this order.
The reason the US military but up the roadblocks and barricades was to find an American soldier that was kidnapped ..
Do you think Bush will apologize to the family of that soldier he just abandoned?
Please explain the logic of your question. I don't understand how this is Mr. Bush's fault.
Bonnie? Kerry won in 2004? Hmmmm, I must have missed John standing up there on the Capitol steps at the inauguration. From the looks of it, the odds don;t look good for him in 2009 either.
I'd also like to know how removing barricades means their not looking for the soldier? That's equivilent to saying the had caramel sticky buns for breakfast so they stopped looking. Total nonsequitor.
I know how you MIGHT try to make the connection; Kerry would probably say those uneducated, unintellegent soldiers, "Did put the barricades up, before they took them down."
I think it is amazing that you could still be glad that Mr. Bush won the presidency in 2004. This is a man who was so focused on realigning the Middle East that he pushed agressively to go into Iraq when the intelligence was sketchy; made Colin Powell act as a salesman for the war; and didn't accept important ideas about how complicated the aftermath would be. Now we are sitting in the mess he and his neocons made. We are mediating a Civil War.
This is a man who, after Sept 11th, said the most important thing we could do would be to prop up the economy by buying oversized American cars. Why didn't he pour investments into alternative energy and create incentives for American car manufacturers to build fuel-efficient cars? Now the US car manufacturers are crumbling, and we are just as dependent on foreign oil as ever. Instead, he branded his coal-focused energy policy Clear Skies, thinking we wouldn't know the difference.
This is a man who brought in electric generators for his post-Katrina solidarity speech, and then took the generators back out with him on the way back to DC. A man who ordered a Gulf Coast evacuation plan to be drawn up a YEAR later -- five days before the start of this year's hurricane season.
President Bush might well be a nice guy, but we are all paying for the fact that his presidency has put showmanship over substance. We should have voted him out in 2004.