BREAKING NEWS: Fox News Predicts Massive Republican Losses If Hastert Stays On

So why didn't Bill Clinton Step down over the Monica L thing? He should have!

Sean:

He won't resign because that would be "retreating" in the parlance of Karl Rove and there will be no retreat from bad policies, cover-ups or even disgraceful acts. Remember when Hastert proclaimed in the wake of the Abramoff affair that the House would "reform the ethics rules to new standards?"

Gee......I don't remember any legislation being passed, do you?

Look this up... drudgereport.com.... The guy was 18 years old and now is 21 years old and has admitted that it was all a scam to undermine the republican party. It is just now hitting the airwaves. Even though Foley should have been removed because of his actions....it is coming out as a set up.

Clifford, Drudge is wrong on this. A real news organization already revealed the source: It was a Republican.

Of course, you are welcome to believe the fantasy if you so choose. :-)

I've followed this story really closely since it broke last week, and find it fascinating how obvious political machinations can be. I believe Hastert will stay as Speaker until the election (after which the GOP will give it up anyway) because they'll decide that stepping down would potentially spread the blame to the entire party instead of containing the blame just to Hastert.

Like one analyst wrote today, though, if more revelations come out between now and the election, all bets are off.

This sounds like typical Republican scapegoating. We are going to lose because of Foley and Hastert not because we are incompetent asses pushing detremental policies for the country. $2 Billion a month for Iraq?

I say he should give it a few days ... get the WHOLE story. Usually these things are never as they seem as when first published ...

Umm, Txn Mom, this story has been out for a week already and it keeps getting worse. Might be time to think about containing the damage, but hey, if the Republicans want to lose the election, why not jsut brazen it out, they are certainly getting lots and lots of help.

Why, Txn Mom, when he had months (or maybe years) to get the whole story and didn't bother?

Well what I find most interesting is the fact that the originial leak happened in July .. and it's just getting out now. Don't get that ...

The whole deal is politics as usual... Frankly whether the kid was 17,18,19,20 ... Foley needed to go ... bottom line - he was overtly friendly with a young person that was in Washington to work and learn. I am glad he did the right thing and resigned. Unlike other's who've been caught with their pants down so to speak.

As to Hastert - time will tell when he knew it ... all this comes out in the wash ... BUT I don't think this is any worse or better for the Republicans than Clintons dalliances were for the Democrats. BOTH situations stink to high heaven... How quickly the Democrats forget their "it was just about sex" excuse... (especially as it's coming out that the kid in the Foley scandal was over 18)

I agree with you on one thing, Txn Mom. Politics as usual. Did you see Hastert blow off the topic and turn the press conference into a compaign speech? How tacky.

By waving Clinton's misdeeds around, Leslie, you are trying to protect someone who may have been aiding and abetting a pedophile by covering up his activities, possibly for years. That puts you in a position where you, yourself, are tacitly supporting said pedophile.

Is that really what you want to be doing?

Well said Bryan, well said.

"drudgereport.com.... The guy was 18 years old and now is 21 years old and has admitted that it was all a scam to undermine the republican party."

Because Matt Drudge says so, right? Seems credible.

You might wish to make note of the fact that Mr. Drudge has somehow failed to offer a single shred of verifiable documentation to support his claim.

You might also wish to make note of the fact that not a single reliable source of information that I'm aware of at this current time (and yes, I have checked), has repeated Drudge's claim.

Next, you might wish to be made aware that Mr. Drudge has a bit of a nasty habit of reporting outlandish "breaking stories" that have a tendancy to turn out completely untrue.

I ain't saying, I'm just saying. These types of stories are far better of discussed based upon documented information, not conjecture.

And Txn Mom, there is a difference between consensual sex between adults and sex between a minor and a Congressman. Besides, this isn't about the sex, nor in Clinton's case was it about the sex. I always thought he should have just come out and said, "sure, she blew me. So what?" But he lied and paid a fearsome and deserved price for lying and betraying the trust of the Americans who voted for him. Imagine being only the second president ever to be impeached. I'd hate to be remembered throughout history that way, wouldn't you?

Oh, did you know that Drudge is gay too?

"Oh, did you know that Drudge is gay too? "

I've heard the rumor, but I don't think it's ever been fully substantiated. Wouldn't surprise me one bit, however. It would certainly fit the republican hypocrite mold well.

I appreciate this group and the discussion. My great grandfather joined a grass roots group over 110 years ago and helped form the Republican Party with a singular purpose-to stop slavery.
My Father was an active Republican and I have worked on many campaigns and served in public office as a Republican. I am the first in my lineage to see the party control both houses and the presidency but feel we have wasted the opportunity. Embarrassments like Foley are very depressing after so much hard work to get to present fiscal responsibility. (I do not condem him because he is gay, only that he took advantage of young folks and his position). We will get over it, but it hurts and I appreciate the understanding you have. I do think some information will develop that shows the decisions of the Supreme Court influenced the actions of some members of congressand held them back. But whoever sat on this allowed young people to be at risk. We want a full investigation and changes to be made. Hastert has much to answer for but we need more detail. Thank you, I plan to come back. I also blog at http://dictionarydogs.blogspot.com You can visit but please don't leave here, this is a good group. grampastew

Stewart we need people like you around. We are in the middle of the Culture War; stupid right-handed(Bush is dim-witted but is moraly brilliant) politians are complete idoits, they are baised lying demogauge and hippocrits. Bastard Hippocrits like Folley and Baised Elitest Demogauges like Nancey Palosie should be thrown out Washington. They have very distorted Paradigms of the world. The problem with democrats isnt that they are wrong (non-moral Desicions) its that they are baised atheist elitest hippocrites who try as hard as they can to destroy christianty and republican ideology and suppress our opinion which they never even consider.

I thought everything that comes out on Fox is a lie, and we weren't supposed to watch them..........???
(couldn't help myself there guys)

Gee Tony Why don't you tell us how you really feel

Look at your friends and neighbors. Half of them are in the "other party". They are all pretty nice and help you when you need it. Or is it that only the "other " party members are only bad if they live more than 5 miles away?

Hey John, you are right, they are just trying to double outsmart us. It's called counter-propaganda, just like counter-intelligence, right?

I'm with you on this one Tony S., although I admire the Ensign's service (even if I don't agree with the dumb x1000 rational for being there), it seems that all her buddies want to do is... "CUT AND RUN" by trying to cast blame on others when things go south for them. I wonder who they will target when the dirty, smelly curtain covering our own "holy war" fiasco falls limply to the floor. I even heard that the venerable speaker of the house has now come up with a "conspiracy story" to explain the Foley mess. The consiracy involves Bill Clinton, George Soros and....maybe some martians too, what do you think Ensign? It is beyound sad to think any of our citizens would buy into this idiotic, childish story! But, then again, look at how many people read The National Inquirer and watch Fox News. Dumb and supremely gullible are not traits which are going to spell success for this country.

Hey Tony .S im not a jihadist i dont want fight a holy war against infedeil religions and who the fuck brought up Bill Clinton? You are exactly what im talking about you peice Elitest shit

About you what you said about condi and her flat jacket you got to see one of my pictures (Tedd Kennedy) look at it

Nick, please refrain from using foul language in my posts and comment threads. I'm asking nicely. Please.

I wanst here for the first response it was a cheap shot but about your condi comment Tedd Kendey weres A BRA!!! HAA LOL

F*** F*** F*** F*** Nick, please refrain from using foul language in my posts and comment threads. I'm asking nicely. Please.

Three more hoaxes?


Three more former congressional pages have come forward to reveal what they call "sexual approaches" over the Internet from former Congressman Mark Foley.

The pages served in the classes of 1998, 2000 and 2002. They independently approached ABC News after the Foley resignation through the Brian Ross & the Investigative Team's tip line on ABCNews.com. None wanted their names used because of the sensitive nature of the communications.

"I was seventeen years old and just returned to [my home state] when Foley began to e-mail me, asking if I had ever seen my page roommates naked and how big their penises were," said the page in the 2002 class.

The former page also said Foley told him that if he happened to be in Washington, D.C., he could stay at Foley's home if he "would engage in oral sex" with Foley.

Somebody tell Drudge!

Sean,

Well, you were right, he made it to Friday...

Asterisks are acceptable. Thanks!

Hastert has the full support of W, just as Michael Brown did, but if FN is right, I, too, want him to stay.

Counter-propaganda........I like that, .....new one to me. I'll have to tuck that away and use it sometime..........;-)
Take care.

Agreed, Stephen - Hastert should stay - it will do much more damage to the Republicans.