Are you tired of having the Mexican flag waved in your face as ILLEGAL ALIENS (criminals) march through the streets demanding AMNESTY. Do you think the Senate has it all wrong, and the House of Representives is on the right track with secured borders, strong work place enforcement actions, and NO AMNESTY for criminals?
Do you think it is time to put and end to Safe Haven communittees where illegals are allowed to run rampant over the local populations, while stealing our jobs, and lowering quality of life in our neighborhoods?
Then get involved, TAKE A STAND by plugging in and working towards finding solutions to this serious NATIONAL CRISIS by joining illegalsolutions here on Gather.
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Any other ideas you want to claim as yours....this is as funny as Al Gore claiming credit for inventing the internet?
You and JAckie deserve each other.
Secondly, the name of my group is NOT Working Solutions, the title of this thread is WORKING SOLUTIONS...solving the illegal problem. Tell me, are you ALWAYS this paranoic of others? Is your group even PUBLIC, as in open to all the members here, or some private by INVITE only ILLEGAL ALIEN LOVE FEST?
You people want to negotiate as if you are in the Cat Bird seat....IE, Jackie as a perfect example. It actually looked for a moment as if she would put a serious marker on the table...instead, the second she thought she could make a BENEFITS GRAB, she went for it, and I wasn't buying. You are obviously cut from the same cloth....someone from MY SIDE offers to consider the possiblity of some kind of partial Amnesty, and you both walked away....shrug.....par for the course from your side. If you cannot have it all, you hold your breath till your ass turns blue.
Lawd, have mercy.
Oh, that's right! You can't! Because that way, you couldn't hang on your porch dressed in your GI Joe duds shouting INCOMING!!! every time you see somebody with a little bit more melanin than you've got.
Define KNOW...I live in a middle class community about one hour outside of New York city. Two houses on our block went up for sale a few years back, and were purchased by an absentee landlord...prior to that, these houses were FAMILY homes.
Both houses were immediately FILLED to the brim with illegals...when I say to the brim, I am talking 30-40 people, mattresses piled all over the floors. In the one home that has now been chopped up into three tiny apartments you can watch ten men come out each morning when a van pulls up to haul them off to work.
We never had a parking problem is our neighborhood, most houses had two cars associated with them, though some ONLY ONE. These two houses have more cars associate with them that the entire rest of the block...now, if you can get a parking place, you consider yourself fortunate, as the illegals have taken far more than their share of the street side parking.
One of these houses filled to the brim with illegals is beside me, the other across the street from me. I've caught them in my swimming pool, caught them stealing flowers from my garden, caught them stealing water by hooking a hose up to my water line to wash their cars when they thought I was away, have even caught them in the middle of the night sitting in my lawn chairs out in our back yard. Last Christmas Eve they had a Christmas party, the cops had to show up four times, and then at 4:30 in the AM, three of them who had gotten drunk went out for cigarettes, and upon returning though our house was theirs.
Do I know these people well enough to call them by name...only the two I managed to get arrested so far, but I know them. I've seen them out in the front yard urinating behind the tree because the bathroom inside is in use....that might be fine if one lives out in the country with no one around, butr you do not urinate in public living in the middle of town. When I was out of town my wife caught two of the men leering at her through our side window, care to tell me why they were on OUR SIDEWALK that leads to our back yard peering into OUR WINDOW? I went to go out one night to the corner store down around the corner from our house....I could not get down my steps as these illegals thought my steps made a good workbench for their tools while they used my security lights to work on their car. My house is not the local Jiffy Lube! The noise from these two houses is so bad on Friday and Saturday nights, and most Holidays, that we all take turns calling in noise complaints to the local police. I know them, I don't LIKE THEM, I have just cause not to like them.
We tried to move out...it's basically TOO LATE, the value of our home has dropped $50,000 and no one wants to buy it and live next door and across the street from this kind of trouble. So, how many illegals do I know...60 within stones throw of my house, and I would not give you a plug nickle for any of them. I have beautiful flowers and landscaping in my yard, one of the beds runs along side of their driveway, and elevated bed of about 50 foot in length....where do they get off thinking they can STEAL MY FLOWERS? I left a brand new weed eater on my front porch while I went in for a glass of tea, and when I came out less than five minutes later they had stolen it, the two men that had been sitting on the front porch of the house next door suddenly gone and out of site....HOW CONVENIENT.
do you know because you are psychic?
do you know because these people have admitted to you they are illegal?
do you know the people who filled those houses were illegal because the neighbors told you that, or because every time you went to visit, each person in the house confessed to you?
do you know any good-ole white boys who drink a lot of Millers and pee outside?
do you know because you think all people who speak Spanish and look different are from Mexico and here illegally?
As to hating any one that does not look like me....hardly. I have friends of every color and race you could think of, have traveled to Japan, have a basic grasp of the language, my niece's husband is Puerto Rican, our grand neices half, and I am pleased they are learning Spanish, as it is a part of their heritage, though NOT MINE. What amazes me, is that you seem to miss the difference between LEGAL and ILLEGAL immigration.
Drywall Guy - you need to stop and consider this. If the American contractors were fair and charged people a decent price instead of jacking up the cost 5 and 6 times, maybe they would have more business coming their way.
If I can get the same job done on my house by somebody (illegal or otherwise) charging me a fair rate rather than jacking it up 5 or 6 times the cost, damned skippy I'm going with the better deal.
It all comes back to if the Americans weren't so damned greedy, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/11/10/national/main582665.shtml
(CBS/AP) Wal-Mart Stores Inc. said Tuesday that it has received a "target letter" from the U.S. Attorney's Office alleging the world's largest retailer violated federal immigration laws.
"The company is the target" of the investigation, Wal-Mart spokeswoman Mona Williams said.
On Oct. 23, federal agents arrested about 250 alleged illegal workers in a 21-state sweep of Wal-Mart stores.
Wal-Mart to Pay $11 Million
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A48612-2005Mar18.html
Chain Settles Illegal-Worker Investigation
By Michael Barbaro
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, March 19, 2005; Page E01
Wal-Mart Stores Inc., the nation's largest retailer, agreed to pay $11 million to settle a federal investigation that found hundreds of illegal immigrants were hired to clean its stores, government and company officials said yesterday.
U.S. officials described the settlement's dollar figure as the largest of its kind. But Wal-Mart admitted no wrongdoing in the case, saying it was unaware contractors were employing illegal immigrants.
Have you noticed how often the Americans who speak/write the poorest English are the same ones who complain about others not speaking English?
Let's all lash out at WalMart for hiring some illegal immigrants to sweep up our messes while we cover our asses with drawers sewn in sweatshops in third world countries and think not a thing of it. Most of which were probably bought at WalMart in the first place.
Well, that settles it. Some Mexican crew put in a better bid than he did and he's got his illegal hiring WalMart bought drawers in a knot over it.
Makes sense now.
In another post SNOBIA I posted a remark from a paper where a fruit farmer was upset that he could not find enough workers to pick his apples at seven dollars and hour....do the math....that's $14,400 dollars a year BEFORE TAXES....MY GAWD....those GREEDY WORKERS!
After Uncle Same takes his share, that worker barely has $1,000 a month to live on, and support a family! Even if his wife is working full time as well, they are going to find themselves barely above the poverty line. Maybe you embrace Bush's plan to eliminate the middle class and turn America into a two tiered society, I don't.
As to your false allegations of how I treated them...get a clue. It's NOT JUST ME that wants them gone.
Ron...I am a licensed landscaper, fully insured here in New York....maybe you do not want to see it, but the illegals are infesting this industry.
Debbie...you are showing your ignorance...most nursuries here in New York are closing down for the year, the only work left to do if one wants it is raking leaves, giving lawns a last mowing...I don't do service work, I do installations....learn the difference.
1. You're American, free to work legally wherever you choose.
2. You're an adult.
3. You have choices.
4. Landscaping is not the only industry in the market.
If it doesn't pay enough, do something else. Is it that hard to understand?
Have mercy!
I DO NOT HIRE ILLEGALS...this means that my bids on many jobs are higher than companies that DO HIRE illegals. This means I do not get a LOT OF THOSE JOBS. This reality does not affect me personally, but it does affect those that USED TO WORK WITH ME....if there is not enough work for them, you have no choice but to lay them off.
I am fifty, nearing retirement, have worked for myself almost my entire life. If you've ever seen Country Living magazine, you have seen my pottery, sold that company back in 1997. I might have to skip the pleasure of going out and purchasing a new car this year, I'll manage...but what about those that used to work for me, who USED TO HAVE A JOB? They don't have those jobs because they were NOT GOOD WORKERS, they do not have those jobs because they could not afford to work for peanuts.
If and illegal is working as a day laborer for a landscaping company around here, the pay is $100 a day for a ten-12 hour day. They do not pay taxes on that money, it is unrecorded INCOME. They have no health insurance, choosing instead to go to the emergency room when they have medical issues, and then don't pay their bills, leaving them for the tax payers to absorb. I paid my workers $15.00 and hour, plus benefits...not as many as I would like to have provided, but what I could afford. For them to clear that same $100 a day AFTER TAXES, they had to earn $150.00, and actually with a ten hour day, they grossed $165.00 If I put a three man crew on a job for a week, at the end of the week I am staring at $585 dollars in additional labor costs, and that is before factoring in my other costs of ABOVE BOARD employees, such as Social Security taxes.
Have mercy....how about trying to have a brain little girl, how about showing some compassion FOR AMERICANS.
I'll tell you who and what I am. I am the wife of one of these people you're talking about. I've watched my husband, over the course of 10 years, bust his ass from daylight to dark to provide for his family. We have never - do you hear me, not once - gone without anything.
Over the course of that ten years, I have watched the white guys that his boss has employed steal the guy blind and cheat him out of thousands of dollars. Do you know who was left at the end?
The dirty, filthy, no good criminal illegal that you didn't want here.
Do you know who the foreman is now?
See above.
Do you know who the white thieves have to answer to?
See also above.
Do you know what the future of your country is?
The American born children of those dirty, no good, criminal illegals - who are going to be able to voice their disdain for how their parents were received in this country right where it will have the most impact - the voting booths.
Your dear husband...would never get his foot into the door of my business...I do not hire CRIMINALS, no matter how much they claim they know, or how hard they claim to work. Like it or not, they are SCUM...if you cannot follow our laws, you DO NOT BELONG HERE, and it is really that simple.
As for the rest...don't COUNT on it. The illegal alien movement LOST THEIR CHANCE TO FOOL US AGAIN, the Senate bill IS DEAD...you can bank on it. As for children...I read the reports...the drop out rate for Latino's is staggering, and goes a long way to explaining why it is that Mexico and other Latin countries are still so backward and third world.
Further, go read up on the 14th Amendment....you'll find there is GREAT DEBATE going on as relates to Anchor Babies, and though out of kindness those here already might be grandfathered in, look for that loop hole to be closed soon.
You should hope that they show you more compassion, understanding, love, sympathy, and consideration while they're feeding you your strained carrots well into your golden years than you ever showed them or their parents.
Things - all things. Actions and words - have a way of coming back and biting you in the ass. Remember that. Karma's a bitch, man.
I'm just the mother of three. Just think of how many millions more just like me are out there being subjected to the same kind of hate that you're spewing here. Just think about how many grudges are being formed each time the phrase "anchor baby" is tossed around.
The children are our future. Melanin or not. The future of our country. The future of our government. The future of the very world as we know it. You think about that.
I don't CARE ABOUT YOUR CHILDREN, and they will not be feeding me strained carrots in my Golden Years...when my time comes, I'll pour gasoline all over the bow of my sail boat like some grand funeral pire and light it afire as I sail off into the sunset.
And, you are absolutely correct. We don't teach civil allegiance to our students - we ASSUME it is taught at home. However, when so many fight to eek out the living they manage, allegiance doesn't come easily. It breeds bitterness and betrayal and leaves many thinking that they will forever be persecuted.
I don't think so. You see, we are women and men - ALL races, ALL nationalities - WE are America.
Just vote and I'll be posting links to polls online. It's time to take out the trash, darlin' and you are just the one to help tighten the lid.
Sigh......Porgie.....I admit that regardless of which side of this debate you are on....I always, always give the benefit of the doubt. Well, no more. I'm sorry I wasted my time on you - wait, I take that back - I'm actually not - otherwise those who haven't made up their minds wouldn't have such a fine example of what THEY ARE NOT.
You are a sick, sick person. I sincerely hope you don't kill some poor brown person just for being there. Just keep talking, we're listening - America is listening - you have our ear. We need to know what motivates this sentiment in this country. WE NEED TO REMEMBER AND YOU REMIND US.
(choose any one you want to apply this to)
George honestly pointed out a truthful situation, that illegals have moved into the sheet rocking sector of the contruction trade here in America, and brought down the wage base...instead of accepting that truth, you tried to make it seem that he WAS LAZY, or inexperienced compared to the Mexican Illegals. I pointed out the disparity that is created for TAX PAYING American workers and the companies that hire them when illegals are working off the books, and you ignored it, instead choosing to attack my own real life experiences...as if in some way, you think it fine and dandy that illegals are living 30 to a house, you chose to again turn it around, ignore the wrong of the illegals, and put all the blame on a supposed racist American. Ask yourself who is being played here...I learned a LONG TIME AGO, you give a moron enough rope, and they hang themselves. You and Snobia are such EASY TARGETS, liking shooting fucks in a barrel as the old saying goes. Could you make it any easier to extract your own prejudices? Snobia broke down and got pissed in no time, spouting forth the LA RAZA ONE RACE PARTY LINE...WE ARE THE FUTURE, WE'LL REMEMBER how you treated us when we are feeding your strained carrots....GUESS WHAT, I can find that rabid hatred on Atzlan's web pages. Illegals ONLY CARE ABOUT ILLEGALS, they have no respect of America, or our ways and laws, and from what I have seen, NO SELF RESPECT OR DIGNITY.
Yes, Wal-Mart hires illegals. This Mexican woman applied for a job where I work now. I offered her a job, and I showd her the I-9 form and the documents that are required, and she couldn't produce the required documents. She now works at the local Wal-Mart as a cashier.
Immigrants for the most part have a much better work ethic than American workers and I'll hire them anytime, but they've gotta be legal !
Also, considering that there are more Chinese restaurants in the States than McDonalds restaurants, I would bet that the 500,000 number is quite low. Sorry, but I doulbt very seriously that a Chinese national can get a visa to work in the States in a Chinese restaurant.
Then factor in the Human Trafficking element. The Chinese often have to work off their smuggling debt that they owe to a Human Smuggler called a " Snakehead ", so for the most part their only future here in the States is working in Chinese restaurants, sweatshops in Chinatown., or for the worst, brothels if they are female. Is our country really the " Golden Mountain " as the Chinese call it ?
Good God! They're not bunking with you. They're not squatting in your attic. They're not camped on your couch.
It's NONE of your business who lives where!
You're saying that YOUR labor market is being affected by 30 grown men UNRELATED TO YOU that choose to live in the same house?
But what's it to you..to any of you..how many people live in any given house?
Good God! They're not bunking with you. They're not squatting in your attic. They're not camped on your couch.
It's NONE of your business who lives where!
On the contrary! It is EVERYONES' business when their neighbors are breaking the law! 30 people in a single family dwelling violates local city, county and HEALTH DEPARTMENT codes and regulations! Senobia, HEALTH DEPARTMENT...don't you get it? Endangerment of the people around you (your neighbors) is unlawful!
I live in the SF Bay Area where Spanish speaking legal and illegal immigrants make up a significant portion of the population, not to mention the Asians both legal and the ones smuggled over in cargo ships. I just can't see them as a threat. Maybe I'm naive.
On my dad's side I'm second generation American born so I'm not so far removed from the old country.
Oh, the language thing. There aren't many countries where everyone speaks the same language. We're just catching up.
Way to go! I'm glad to see other Hispanic AMERICANS speak out on this issue. I WHOLEHEARTEDLY agree with what you're saying.
I'd prefer that people entered the country legally but I don't think that a lot of the ones who haven't are a threat to me. I'm sorry that something like this becomes a focus for peoples' anger.
Hard to get government services? Read this:
Letter to Colorado DA's
As you may know, Jefferson County District Attorney Scott Storey recently sought and obtained indictments against several individuals who obtained loans for illegal aliens using false identity documents, employment information, and credit histories. The transactions in this initial indictment involved loans for more then thirty homes totaling nearly $7 million.
The scheme that District Attorney Storey has uncovered is not confined to Jefferson County. According to several recent news reports, it is rampant and widespread. CNN recently reported that some $16 million in fraudulent loans have been uncovered in Denver – and at least one government source told The Denver Post that around 20,000 illegal immigrants hold Federal Housing Administration loans in the Denver Metro Area alone.
In Kansas City, two individuals recently plead guilty to securing more than twenty federally backed loans for illegal aliens, and in Utah illegal aliens purchased nearly ninety homes costing the government almost $3 million.
These statistics are troubling – perhaps more troubling, they are likely only the tip of the iceberg. These fraudulent loans lead to increased foreclosures which affects all homeowners. Worse still, this practice allows countless individuals in the country illegally to establish false identities in homeownership. This poses a threat to national security that is not insignificant.
District Attorney Storey has taken an important first step in Colorado in cracking down on crooked elements in the real estate industry that are putting profits before patriotism. I hope that you will consider taking similar steps in your jurisdiction to actively investigate and prosecute unscrupulous individuals who are putting all of us at risk by engaging in this dishonest, illegal, and unfortunately lucrative practice.
Thank you in advance for your consideration.
Sincerely,
/s/
Tom Tancredo, M.C.
You think that because they pay "sales tax" that they are not a "threat"?
http://tancredo.house.gov/htbin/blog_inc.pl?BLOG,co06_tancredo,blog,999,All,Item%20not%20found,ID=060905_0017,TEMPLATE=postingdetail.shtml
20,000 ILLEGAL immigrants with FHA loans on their homes. Now tell me, WHY should a person in this country illegally, obtain a Federally Insured loan on a home, when millions of AMERICANS can hardly even QUALIFY to buy a home in this country!
And that's JUST IN COLORADO!
And that's JUST IN COLORADO! Correction: JUST IN DENVER!!!
Andrea - instead of lamenting that America is "sick of it", why don't you gripe that your friends in high places don't have the means to check the fake documents...and that their superiors don't feel the need to do that? Place the blame where it really belongs.
Go to www.ALIPAC.US and get involved.
Don't just talk...do it!
I often have lunch at this particular Chinese restaurant where I have witnessed suspicious activity.
This restaurant has a very high turnover of waitresses, I counted 12 different waitresses in a 2 week period. Each time that I went there, there would be 2 new waitreses with the previous 2 gone.
2 of the Chinese girls told me that they lived in a house with all of the workers from the restaurant and they were not allowed to leave except to go to work. One of the girls asked me if I had a house that she could stay in.
I also know of 3 Hispanics who worked at the restaurant. 2 of them were adult males from Guatemala, and 1 was a juvinile male from Honduras. All 3 worked there 14 hours per day, 7 days per week for 3 weeks. They wern't allowed to eat or take a break. After 3 weeks of this abuse, they all walked off the job. Also, none of them were paid. Actually, this was reported to the Department of Labor, and of course they did nothing. I thought that slavery was abolished in our country in 1865 ?
At this point, I suspected that some sort of Human Trafficking or forced labor was going on here. I reported this to Covenanthouse, which is an organization that claims to help victims of Human Trafficking. They put me in touch with 2 ICE agents and 1 FBI agent.
These agents spent more time following me around than they did on the investegation of the restaurant. The FBI agent showed me his Glock handgun ( no kidding, FBI agents carry handguns ) and the ICE agents came to my house and checked out my web browser to see where I was going on the internet. They also told me that if I told anyone that I was providing information to them, they would have to treat me " differently" , which was an obvious threat.
They left my house and raided the restaurant and arrested the illegal workers, 2 Chinese and 3 Hispanics, and no charges were filed against the owner of the restaurant. The agents said that they couldn't prove any forced labor or Human Trafficking. Also they said that they couldn't prove that the owner knowingly hired illegals.
Since the raid took place, 3 international students, 2 Chinese and 1 Thai came to me looking for a job after they were fired from the restaurant. All 3 of them told me up front that they didn't have any of the documents required for the I-9 form and they were not permitted to work off-campus. If they told me this up front, I'm sure that they told the owner of the Chinese restaurant as well. Of course I refused to hire them respectfully and I advised them to come back once they aquired the proper ducuments.
I reported this to ICE ( Immigration and Customs Enforcement ) and of course they did nothing. The restaurant is still open for buisness and back to it's old ways.
The people who hire illegal immigrants must be held accountable. If ICE is going to arrest and deport the illegals, then shouldn't the people who hire them face the same fate !
In the case of the Chinese restaurant that I wrote about, both the owner and manager of the restaurant are legal Chinese immigrants. However they broke the law in order to take advantage of cheap labor, and in turn they abused the workers who were here illegaly and had no recourse to file a complaint. My solution ? Even though the owner and manager are legal immigrants, they should be deported directly to a prison in China. I'm sure that the punishment there would be much harsher than a U.S. prison.
Also, American companies and employers who hire, under pay and abuse illegal immigrants should all be deported directly to prisons in China, Mexico or the " Bangkok Hilton " in Thailand. Oh yeah, why don't we deport the ICE and FBI agents who turn a blind eye to this problem as well. As far as I'm concerned, they are just as bad.
When I wasn't in school, I hauled hay, I drove tractors, I cut weeds from fence lines ( without a weedeater ) or I mowed yards. My parents were well of. They had more than enough money to buy me those things, but they required me to work inorder to teach me some work ethic.
When I was a senior in high school, my parents told me that I had to get a part time job, so I went to work for Wal-Mart part time for minimum wage. 6 years later I was promoted into managemant. Looks like the work ethic that my parents tought me paid off. Even though I no longer work for Wal-Mart, having those 15 years of experience with that company on my resume pays huge dividens.
The problem nowadays is that some parents aren't teaching their children about work ethic, and those same parents are from the same generation that I'm from ?
So what's wrong with your child working at Burger King when he or she is in High School ? Who knows ? Maybe 6 years down the road your child may be the next Manager .
If we don't correct our own work ethic and the work ethic of our own children, maybe the next manager will be Yun Fun Su from China or Rafial DeJesus Fernandez from Latin America because those people have work ethic.
With me being a Manager, if I had to choose between some punkass American kid with is pants hanging half the way down his ass with the knees ripped out and wearing a t-shirt that says " go to hell, kiss my ass " or Yun Fun Su who is wearing nice clothes and going to school and permitted to work off-campus, guess who I'm going to hire ? Yun Fun Su is getting money from his parents in China, but it's considered to be a loss of face in China to receive money without earning it, so Yun Fun Su wants to work to earn his own way. We need to teach our children to do the same.
How does 30 people living in one house affect YOU, PERSONALLY or ANYBODY ELSE that is not one of the said 30 people?
Aside from that, what are the stalking laws where you live? If you know so much about these people, you've had to invest quite a bit of time into following them and spying on them to find out. That sort of thing is frowned upon and, in some cases, highly illegal.
You might be a more eloquent writer than Porgie but the meat of almost all your comments is rotten to the core, childish, uninformed and downright silly.
From your comments it is very obvious that you have no personal or direct experience with illegals in middle or lower-middle class neighborhoods or actual interaction with the illegals. Your opinions seem to be crafted out of theory and PC rhetoric only.
We have a problem in this country with illegals. We as a nation need to find an equitable and fair solution, for all.
Porgies neighborhood problems are very, very real and I for one have great sympathy and compassion for the loss of Porgies quality of life.
I *married* an illegal immigrant. A great number of my inlaws are *still* illegal immigrants. You know the old saying about what making "ass"umptions will do, right?
Asking the hard questions - see also: demanding proof of this mindless drivel that's being spewed - is a far cry from childish and silly. What is childish and silly is the tone these people take when their feet are held to the fire and they cannot produce said proof to back up said mindless drivel.
HG:
Hmm. Noise - so you need to clarify that and say "Thirty LOUD people living in one home". Unhealthy and unsafe living conditions.......for whom? Again, NOT YOU. Not for ANYONE not living in the group. A house that begins to be rundown - hmm. Not if they keep it up. Not if they're handy. Where they choose to live is not indicative of how. I love the "ass"umptions ever so much, but you still, darling, can't prove any of this or even make a valid point based on anything aside from your xenophobia.
30 people living in one house DO CREATE health risks, and not JSUT FOR THEMSELVES. Two citations have been issued to the owner of that house regarding their garbage problem, because it was/is so out of hand that it had attracted RATS. Overcrowding of those two houses, and the unclean conditions of the heathens living in them have given our neighborhood a cockroach problem where NONE existed before.
It has created safety issues for OUR CHILDREN. First, parking has become an issue....where is it fair for two houses to use an entire block's PARKING? Secondly, because both sides of the street are now bumper to bumper cars, it's much harder to see children playing, you only seem them when they dart out from between two cars to retrieve their ball or other toy. Ambulances lose precious seconds because they have to walk down and around to and open driveway with their equipment, instead of being able to park RIGHT OUTSIDE whatever home has and emergency.
Does not matter WHAT WE PRESENT TO YOU, you do not want to hear it, or read it, but instead dismiss it as unimportant, and leap right to your BLAME GAME....it's time Latin's and Illegals both start taking care of their OWN NATIONS, THEIR OWN PEOPLE instead of telling us WE OWE THEM a space in America just because they want to be here....does not work that way, WE HAVE LAWS, and we are DEMANDING THEY BE ENFORCED.
Rats and roaches come inside for many reasons besides filth. Ants...flies....lots of things seek shelter in our homes when things outside are not favorable.
How do I know...IF I sit out on the deck of my pool, I have a GREAT VIEW of the comings and goings at that property. Documenting a problem is important when you have an agenda to END THE PROBLEM. As one example...when a van pulls up every morning, and the SAME MEN come out of a house, get in the van and drive away, gone all day, then the SAME VAN comes back at night and the SAME MEN get out and go back into the same house, they ARE LIVING THERE...it's documents, photographed, and even video taped. Day in, and day out, the same cars are parked in and around these houses, the same people are photographed coming into those houses at night, and leaving in the morning hours.
It's DOCUMENTED. You might think you are SLY, but you are not....YOU'LL ATTEMPT TO CLOUD THE WATERS, and try to CAST dispersions on any fact or person that wants ILLEGALS GONE.
You are the BIGOT, you are the RACIST, you are the one that aids and abets illegals, thus making you a CRIMINAL.
Sorry sweetheart, I've been away from the nerd box for awhile. Anyway, to find out what effects 30 people in a single family dwelling have on a community, YOU are going to have to check for yourself. Call the city, county, zoning commission, and as I stated before - the health dept. The rest of the people here seem to already know EXCEPT you. Ask those agencies why such laws were created. And as far as how a person knows how many people live in any given home and how many are visitors, that's easy! IT'S A MATTER OF PUBLIC RECORD! Anyone can go online or to the local courthouse and learn who the true owner of the house is and how many people are in HIS family. If they are renting, and have 30 people living there and cars taking up alot of the parking or several cars on the same property, they can be turned in by their neighbors as a public nuisance. Make no mistake about it, our neighbors are entitled to"quiet enjoyment" of their homes and these laws protect that entitlement. So with all due respect sweetheart, you should take up your argument with the aforementioned agencies.
I guess we all now know why you get so worked up...you must live in one of those houses with 30 of your new relatives.
I bet your parents are proud...whats that you say? All your illegal relatives are college professors and doctors and they all own homes, pay for medical insurance and contribute. I am sure they all speak perfect English and respect the American way of life and the laws that are in place to assure that the American way of life can continue.
Good lord girl why didn't you emigrate to the other side.
There are legal ways to immigrate to the USA and you seem proud that your in-laws are outlaws...Viva Zappata
You might want to investigate unlawful surveillance laws, stalking laws, and refer to sections of the NY Penal Code §250.40 through §250.65 - before you begin making asinine accusations about other people.
If you are living with and illegal, and if you are helping others in your extended family who are illegally here remain in America, YES YOU ARE A CRIMINAL....just because a drug dealer does not get caught does not mean he is not breaking the law. Just because you have not beeen caught, or not been presecuted does not mean you are not breaking the law, are not a criminal.
Every one knew for years that Al Capone was a criminal, but it took tax evasion to put him behind bars.
I'm not going to have to find out anything for myself. I'm not the one who is spewing BS about "what I know, what I know, believe me because it's true" to the online masses. None, do you hear me - not one, of the people to "claimed" property injustice could prove anything at all. Nothing. Not a damned thing did they have that was concrete. Until they do, there is no argument. It's a totally moot observation and waste of keystrokes to yip yap about it online.
::Make no mistake about it, our neighbors are entitled to"quiet enjoyment" of their homes and these laws protect that entitlement.::
You're ever so right about this point. Your neighbors, meaning the people you're making caustic statements about. They have the same entitlements as you do. That means to not be stalked, unlawfully put under surveillance, or be slandered by a bunch of old men who don't know their asses from holes in the ground about that which they rant.
Back to Porkie, yes you do, BUT! You do not have the right to point that camera at other people and photograph them.
Erm, no. I am not "living with an illegal". I said I married one...m a r r i e d one. Meaning he was "illegal" at the time of the nuptuals. He's now a legal permanent resident...but what's it to you?
And that's right...many, many of my inlaws are still illegal. What are you going to do about? What can you do about it? Same questions regarding the millions in the country just like them.
You're here courtesy of an immigrant. And before you say to me that they "came here legally", let me remind you that if it was as easy as passing a physical at their point of entry today we wouldn't be having this conversation.