'We kill those we need to kill'
Posted by Aussie Dasher
On 07/18/2006 7:00:03 PM PDT
Herald Sun ^ | 19 July 2006 | Alistair Lyon
ISRAELI warplanes battered Lebanon, killing 31 people, and more Hezbollah rockets hit northern Israel, killing one, with no sign that diplomacy would halt the week-old conflict any time soon. Civilians on both sides were angry about the bombardment that has cost 235 lives in Lebanon and 13 in Israel,
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I wish there were accounts where the numbers of boys / men 14-42 were killed. We probably conclude that many of the dead were actually people that were targets. For now, they are probably going after infrastructure. I don't know that the US has the fight required to inflict heavy casualties on the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps(IRGC). The IRGC has the home field advantage, and they are not over-extended at present. They could see their numbers dwindle if the decision were made to move forward, but we are trying to orchestrate a peaceful revolution. We want people to act in ways that we see would be in their best interests, but they probably don't see that.
Syria could also be in trouble. Did others see the bit where Saddam, through his lawyers was saying how he hopes that Arabs don't get too close with Iran, because Persians are not really supportive of Arabs, they hate they after the push the Jews into the sea.
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I think the Israeli civilians might truly be called innocents, but Hizbollah members are probably not innocents. Especially if they were in the process of aiming the Katusha missle when the site was hit by a missle and the Katusha exploded on the ground. The group would still be called civilians.
There has to be a better way for everyone to live peacefully but I bet it'll be hard for Lebanese to forgive the Israeli military for literally destroying their country.
How in the world would -you- feel if, tomorrow, you couldn't go to work because all the bridges have been blown away, all the major roads have been bombed and all utilities are destroyed... would you say "Gee, thank you Israel for making my life so bloody much fun... and oh yeah, thanks for murdering my relatives!"?
Israel went too far and that's why the public's opinion backlash will probably hit them back 100 times harder than the (largely unnecessary) suffering they imposed on their neighbors.
It was the Hizbollah who bombed our Marine barracks and killed over 200 Marines. They have killed a many other Americans.
Hizbollah is a very large group with active cells in most western countries including the U.S. They raise money from all over the world besides receiving considerable funding from Iran.
There is no way to appease them, a lesson that is starting to penetrate some western minds as well as some Arab minds. Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Eygpt have recently spoken out against them as being the cause of the present situation in Lebanon, statements which have never before been made against any terror group.
Killing Hizbollah is probably the only solution. How about holding Syria responsible since they serve as the main base for Hamas, Hizbollah and several other terrorist groups?
Best regards, Ben
Hatred of a common enemy is a powerful motivating force. The Israelis are a people who may be perceived to be big bullys in the arab mind. The Israelis are backed up by an even bigger Bully, the US of A. The US of A wants to have resources move around the world in orderly fashions. It's good for business. Oil is one of those resources. War with Persia, endangers the region as a transit point for oil. Supposedly, 20% of the world's Oil is from that region. Once the decision is made to kill the head. There could be far reaching consequences.
Further, there is supposedly a mutual defence treaty between Syria and Iran.
Many people like making money with the way things are at present.
You can't in most cases.
Hezbollah is a scourge to any peace in the area, and it will never be lasting as long as they are there, cease fire or not.
What kind of solution comes from killing people?
In any sane society, killers are the lowest, they have no future.
In this case, as long as THEY are different from US, it's OK to kill them.
I respectfully request you all take another look at who is calling for killing people. CLUE: it's not the people, but those who can profit from death.
The people all eat from the same plate.
It is politicians, "religious" fanatics, bankers, oilmen, and arms manufacturers who benefit from the deaths of the poor.
None of the current administration was willing to die in Vietnam. That's a big clue for those who take war in stride and casually call for the deaths of their enemies.
Read Mark Twain's War Prayer"
"O Lord our Father, our young patriots, idols of our hearts, go forth to battle -- be Thou near them! With them -- in spirit -- we also go forth from the sweet peace of our beloved firesides to smite the foe. O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it -- for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen
Pres. Eisenhower:
In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes.
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.
This world in arms is not spending money alone.
It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children.
The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities.
It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population.
It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals.
It is some 50 miles of concrete highway.
We pay for a single fighter with a half million bushels of wheat.
We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people.
This, I repeat, is the best way of life to be found on the road the world has been taking.
This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron."
"Those that have eyes, let them see"
--marty w.
In view of the obvious threats to our security, the heavy bombers are cheap.
Diplomacy is not possible with a madman who promotes the destruction of a whole people.
Best regards, Ben
Perhaps that we sold the Shah of Iran some weapons, then the Iranian Revolution happened, and we sold the Iraqi's better weapons to defeat the Iranians.
Martin, General Eisenhower was a good president who had things to worry about.
George W Bush may actually believe that this Iraq mess will take care of itself, and he will have helped to lead the US in bringing commerce to the region.