There have been articles and discussions about women's rights, women's oppressions in Islamic countries. I would like to put forward here some discriminatory regulation and practices in Indonesia. Indonesia is not Islamic country but it seems that the laws get more and more similar to those countries.
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The treatment from the government of Indonesia towards mix marriages has always been discriminatory to women, among others are:
- Women with foreign husbands could not sponsor their husbands to get a permanent residency here while men with foreign wives automatically can sponsor them to live here and get permanent residency. The results are now when they want to live with their wives in Indonesia they have to apply for so called 'Social & Cultural Visit Visa'. No, you are not mistaken, when the husbands want to meet their Indonesian wives, the visits are considered social or cultural!! This visa is valid only for 2 months and can be extended every month after that until total of 6 months period. So if they want to live longer here, they have to get out of the country and apply for the same visa again. The cost of this visa is approximately US$100 and another US$10 for each of the extensions, including the fee for the agent who would take care of this annoying and ridiculous regulation. My husband who travel a lot and come to Indonesia often but sometimes only one month or 6 weeks does not want to be bother with applying this kind of visa. He prefers to just come to Indonesia and apply for visa-on-arrival facility where he has to pay US$25 each time he enters this country. He said that in Indonesia he does not have any rights at all as he comes always as a visitor.
- Children from Indonesian women who married foreign husbands will have the fathers' citizenship while children from Indonesian men who married foreign wives automatically have Indonesian citizenship. According to existing laws, an Indonesian wife who gave birth to a child from her marriage to foreign husband has to report to the authorities soon after the baby is born. Failure to report this could mean a fine or even deportation of the baby. The children are considered foreigners by Indonesian law and they have to get sponsors to be able to live in this country. This means that these children need to have the above 'social & cultural visit' visas as well. Consequently, at the latest of every 6 months period, the mothers and their children have to go abroad to apply for their visas. How absurd is this law?
- When these mix marriages disintegrate and the couples want to have divorces, Indonesian wives will just lose the custody of their children as according to Indonesian law they belong to their fathers!
Oh, and I actually forget one very important thing here: Indonesian Muslim women can not marry non-Muslim men in the country and be recognized by the State. Actually, this is not only for Muslims as Indonesian law only allows marriages of same religion. Isn't marriage a basic human right? Aren't we allow to choose whomever we want to get married to regardless his religion and nationality? Indonesia actually already ratified the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women more than 2 decades ago, but as we can see from the above mentioned practices that it has been so meaningless! I don't know how the Indonesian state can get away with continuing to have these practices without being sanctioned? I think who has benefited from these practices is pretty obvious, but the bill is still being paid by the Indonesian women.
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@ 2006




Comments: 36
Thanks for posting another article from the real world. Your insights are valuable - and regualrly dismissed by those whould have us all submit to Islam.
Life is not only red roses !
The misogynistic thinking of the country is not a surprise to me. They wear blantant sexism on a sleeve.
Dorine, it has been decades that Indonesian women try to get greater fairness for women but it was definitely very difficult! I am not so sure how the people of the world can help us in this, maybe by putting more pressure to the government about these issues?
Deborah, Indonesia is not a Muslim country, but it has the largest Muslims communities. I think it is now around 85% of the populations are Muslims, meaning 85% of 250 million people.
Are there any signs of this changing or is this simply another case of "it's always been like this, and it will always stay like this" ? You do a great service by laying the facts on the line and giving us the truth to think about. Keep it coming.
Governments are infamous for saying one thing and doing another. Thus, Indonesia may have anti-discrimination laws, but it's all window dressing if their actions speak otherwise. They don't say "actions speak louder than words" for nothing.
Today, under the Bush Regime in the U.S., there are similar protections on the books that are being ignored -- mostly in the name of anti-terrorism, and not religion, which seems to be the root cause in Indonesia.
Thanks for keeping us up-to-date on Indonesia. Your dispatches are much more valuable than anything in the news...
Thanks for your kind inputs.
Thank you for your writings,
You are doing the world the greatest good,
Please keep it up,
As always, thought-provoking writings that are well-crafted. Thank you for sharing them.
Thank you for reading this. The latest news from here is that the laws for the children from mix-marriages in Indonesia to have dual citizenship has been approved by the House. But all the other discriminations are still there. I hope that women would not have discrimintation anymore.
how about the permanent resident card for the husbands? is there any change yet? by the way I am still Indonesian citizent. Thank you for answering my question.
We're not perfect here in America, and in fact we're going backward. This may not seem like an injustice in Indonesia (I don't know) but a lot of us in America are annoyed that a man can't marry a man and a woman can't marry a woman. While it seems horrible to some people, others of us don't see the harm. There's so much hate in the world; love should be rewarded.
This was a very good piece. Thank you.
You were right that discriminations only bring bad things to the country's progress. We are still struggling with deep poverty and here discrimination starts, boys can continue going to school but not girls if the family can not afford to send all of them to school. They don't choose who is going based on merits but based on genders. This is still very sad.
Thank you for your input!
Good effort by you. keep it up!
What a shame you can't enjoy marrying a man you fell in love with! What a shame your state refuses you his company according to some self-professed religious leaders incorrect interpretation of his "religion".
Rossie, this sounds like typical cult behavior... keep the unbelievers away from the true believers, take their family away, etc... it's all about control of the masses. Why oh why are so many people so clueless? Why do they blindly follow a "religion" when it is really just a cult with lots of members?
I'm so sorry I only found my way to this article so late! Please forgive me. I gave you a 10.
Religions should be private things that we keep inside us and not controlled by the state, by imams, by society. It should be between us and God. But more and more, it is not about God anymore, but about them controlling the others. They don't discuss about God anymore.
My husband is American, but we live partly in Indonesia. As long as this administration is still there in the US, I don't think he would want to come back to live there. That's why it is absurd that when he wants to stay in Indonesia, I can not sponsor him to get permanent reseidency here! We have no children at the moment, but when we do, I think it is much better for them to have US citizenships.
Just go to KUA, try to get married, and I'm sure you will be allowed to marry man from different religion... even more than one man...
You can not imagine how the Indonesian government really wants to interfere with our personal lives. Not only in terms of religion, which is stated in our ID cards, but also whether we are married or not, also stated in our ID cards. Then it can also rule that man and woman that are not married can not live under the same roof! And they think they have the authorities to enter some houses to bring out man and woman who were caught having sex outside marriage and have them paraded in front of the communities without shame!
They were deliberating on how women should dress but under pressure from a lot of us, they did not continue with passing the bill! Can you imagine?