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by Sandy (Site Psychic™) Knauer
Member since:
December 19, 2005

Breasts - Who Wants Them

April 22, 2006 08:18 PM EDT (Updated: October 12, 2008 05:09 PM EDT)
views: 713 | rating: 9.3/10 (69 votes) | comments: 182

            For those of us sentenced to Catholic school, back-to-school shopping promised few thrills beyond walking to Kresges with all the neighborhood mothers and our supply lists. The most we could look forward to once we got there was something as mundane as two-holed versus three-holed paper, or a choice between anklets and knee socks. Vickie Johnson changed that for all of us the summer before sixth grade.

            Long before anyone else thought of shopping that year, Vickie's mom left the other nine children behind, shunned Kresges and the other mothers, and took Vickie downtown to shop, just the two of them. When they hadn't returned at dinnertime, I wasn't sure I could eat around my growing anticipation. I pictured her with all sorts of extravagant things: the cartridge pen with the pointed cap, the roll top pencil holder, a madras purse. If she came back with them all, I'd die of excitement with her.

            As I shoved bites of pork chop around the plate, picturing Vickie in a red stretch-headband, she charged through the door without stopping to knock. "Wait 'til you see what I got," she squealed.

            I didn't have to wait; my whole family sat staring at the bra she swung over her head like she'd win a prize if she lassoed the light fixture. I hid my disappointment, hoping she would still get at least one of the good things I had dreamed for her.

            She handed the bra over for my mother to examine, neither of them showing any sign they shared my regret. After I had my turn at holding the bra, Vickie rushed out to show the others.

            Mom bit her cheeks. Daddy said now Vickie would have something to carry her apples to school in. I asked to be excused and ran to catch up with my friend.

            Within an hour, every girl in the neighborhood had rubbed, stretched, fastened and unfastened, adjusted the straps, and pined for Vickie's bra. She pulled a few of us aside and promised we could all try it on the next day.

            Caught up in the excitement of being included in the select fitting club, I approached my mother that night to see if my world was changing also. "Am I getting a bra before school starts?"

            "I don't think you need one," she said. "Do you?"

            Suddenly I wanted breasts. "When do you think I might grow?"

            She reminded me we were in the same grade, but Vickie was a year older. "Besides, people grow at different rates. It'll happen when the time is right for you."

            That was my first lesson in careful what you wish for. Had I known the bra would become a pain in my ass forever, I would never have wasted those wishes.

            My time came, and I got my bra. Even after Mom helped me adjust the straps, it refused to stay where it belonged. I tried not to move, but it didn't matter how still I sat, the darned thing climbed up and I had to tug it back down. At times, I was afraid it would crawl out the top of my blouse. It itched. I couldn't pay attention in class. Mom said I would be more comfortable after she had washed the bra a few times. She lied.

            Once the newness wore off on that first bra, I wondered who could possibly have invented the contraption. What woman hated herself so much she decided to design something that would make her miserable every waking second of her life? Who thought gee it might be a good idea to bind her breasts tightly, connect the binding to her shoulders for added discomfort, and then put a piece of elastic across the back so boys could snap the crap out of her back? That woman must have been crazy, along with all the ones who followed her. And if a man thought it up, women were stupid to listen to him.

            I changed my mind. I did not want breasts.

            Not much changed over the years. My friends saved for months to get implants, I turned down freebies. My plastic surgeon friend retired feeling like a failure because my chest was still flat. I didn't want a hunk of flab hanging off my stomach, so why would I want two hanging off my chest?

            I haven't seen Vickie in years. I picture her as a Victoria Secret regular, with a wardrobe of sexy lingerie. I'm still thinking about that fountain pen with the pointed lid.

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Comments: 182

Carla S. Apr 22, 2006, 8:29pm EDT
Such a vivid depiction of what we all go through. One day wishing for boobs and the next wishing they would go away! Thanks for the memories of my first bra!
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Nancy S. Apr 22, 2006, 8:37pm EDT
I thought you stole my article, but not quite. After all the stuff on shoes, and getting older and being comfortable, I decided to write about the bra. And here you are. I'll still do mine.
It had to be a man. Right?
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Digital Dogs Apr 22, 2006, 8:45pm EDT
Great article Sandy! I was like your friend, I "developed early" as my Mom liked to say, and I HATED bras! So uncomfortable! That year I got my first bra I remember wearing this ugly red mohair sweater all summer in some vain attempt to hide the things that were growing on my chest.

But all those men hanging out on the corners in the big city where I grew up would never let me forget them. "Hey chickie chickie" was what I would hear when I walked by. I hated them. My boobs and those men.
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Linda Douglas Apr 22, 2006, 8:57pm EDT
Aw. Breasts. I hate the bra wedgies and the comments we have to endure. The mammograms and the underwires. I have had many friends ask if they could have any leftovers if I had a reduction, but I've decided to keep them. Most times when I lie on my back they just disappear into my arm pits anyway.
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Sandy (Site Psychic™) Knauer Apr 22, 2006, 9:10pm EDT
Carla – thanks for reading. I guess it's good we have those uncomfortable moments when we're young, so we'll have something to laugh about the rest of our lives.

Liz – oh yes, or think of the lip injections they might have covered! I guess sometimes we have what we want but don't know it, which might be worse.

Nancy – I'm anxious to see yours! I'm sure we all have one, and they're probably all different. I'm not touching girdles if anyone wants that.

Digital – aww.. mohair in the summer? Poor girl. My daughter did the same, but she hid in baggy t-shirts. We lived in a neighborhood full of guys and there were only two girls, one older than the pack of guys, and my daughter who was a couple years younger. So she was 'one of the guys' for years and self-conscious when she started developing. They were surprised when suddenly she came out in a bathing suit without the baggy shirt. After that, they became protective and she turned into the little sister instead of one of the guys.
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Sandy (Site Psychic™) Knauer Apr 22, 2006, 9:13pm EDT
Linda - LOL on the armpit statement. I hate the mammogram too, and refuse an underwire. It doesn't seem fair that some are wanting reductions and others need more. Things should be more evenly distributed ;-)
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Antoinette M. Apr 22, 2006, 9:17pm EDT
Too funny and oh way too true. I went to bed one night with little fried eggs on my chest and woke up the next day with melons. Bras were surely invented by the Devil. The fact is that you are so uncomfortable with them swaying in the breeze that you are willing to withstand the torture of wearing one. I miss the sixties.
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Cheryl C. Apr 22, 2006, 9:52pm EDT
That's what I'm talkin' about! I was much more eager to develop breasts than brains. I'm now grateful for my slight bosom. When some people ask me if I ever considered surgery, I tell them that I had a breast reduction and sometimes think the surgeon went too far.

Entertaining article. FYI: You might wish to double check the fifth paragraph from the end. I think you may have omitted a few words in the second sentence.
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Sandy (Site Psychic™) Knauer Apr 22, 2006, 10:11pm EDT
ANTOINETTE - I love it! Fried eggs to melons LOL.. I've heard other say they are more comfortable in a bra than without. It's something I can't imagine since I was in trainers until my forties, and still closer to apple than melon. I led a bra removal in front of a politicians house last year - but burning is against the law now ;-)

LOL.. Thomas. Since you were kind enough to throw in that bit of enlightened compassion, I'm not going to say anything ugly here, Thanks for reading and commenting. You're a brave man. ;-)
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Sandy (Site Psychic™) Knauer Apr 22, 2006, 10:12pm EDT
CHERYL - Thanks for pointing out my error!! I fixed it.
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Skip Chalker Apr 22, 2006, 10:15pm EDT
I remember when I unfastened my first bra, of course I was in high school and it belonged to my girlfriend, but it is the closest thing I have to a first bra experience. I appreciate your article because boobs play a big part in the novel I have written (and am now rewriting) and I appreciate all the research I can get without getting slapped.
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Sandy (Site Psychic™) Knauer Apr 22, 2006, 10:18pm EDT
LOL, Skip, thanks for the input. We can't slap through the screen, so ask away. I'll answer any apple-down sized questions, and maybe we can recruit someone with melon experience to answer the others.
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Micheale Shelton Apr 22, 2006, 10:24pm EDT
ROFLOL, wait...I'm wiping tears off my face from laughing!! I still haven't developed breasts :-) Okay, I have but they are mosquito bites. My mom's mom was the last woman in the family who was endowed and she didn't pass any on to mom, me, or my sister. Sandy, I'm like you, when I come home, the bra (if I wore one) is the first thing that comes off, then the shoes. But when I was in Junior High School, they were all I could think of. I think mom got me a training bra just to shut me up! Great story, my friend! Like Nancy, I was going to write a boob story, but I couldn't write anything better than this!
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Skipster Too Apr 22, 2006, 10:25pm EDT
I think Steve Martin, in LA Story, accurately summed up the male perspective:
"I could never be a woman. I'd never get anything done. I'd stay home all day and play with my breasts."
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Skip Chalker Apr 22, 2006, 10:29pm EDT
Okay, My novel is a satire of the vanity that causes people to do things like have breast implants. I got the idea when I was working at a fitness club and one of the trainers, who had just had the surgery, came into my office and asked in a huff "are these things even?" After sitting there in stunned silence for a minute I said "I don't even know if natural ones are necesarily even." I asked my wife later that day, but she just laughed at me. There is the million dollar question that I want a scientific answer to.
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Bert B. Apr 22, 2006, 11:17pm EDT
Men have no business posting anything in this comment thread.

So I won't.
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Sandy (Site Psychic™) Knauer Apr 22, 2006, 11:39pm EDT
Micheale – Write your story! I want to read it.

E.B. – LOL.. I love Steve Martin. Have you read his book, The Pleasure Of My Company? It's one of my favorites.

Skip – As far as I know, no woman has ever had breasts the same size.

Heather – sounds familiar. I'm learning to tolerate a sports bra.

Bert – come on, we've discussed body parts, articles of clothing, and fruit. Nothing harmful ;-)
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Christopher Bell Apr 22, 2006, 11:54pm EDT
Sandy--Near as I can figure, a bra is sortof like a jock strap on a guy but pulled higher and more visible (I hope!) Chris
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Charles Mussi Apr 23, 2006, 12:02am EDT
Sandy, Thanks.

Nothing harmful indeed.

:-)
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Sandy (Site Psychic™) Knauer Apr 23, 2006, 12:05am EDT
Chris, I believe they're about the same. A guy I dated once asked if I was going to wear a bra when we were going out one night. I said I'd wear the bra when he wore the jock strap. Last time he mentioned that.

Charles - thanks! There aren't many topics off limits for me. hmm... I'm trying to think of one. I sure there must be one.
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Kathryn E. Apr 23, 2006, 12:18am EDT
I was friends with mine until I gained weight. Now, I'm of the 'well, look who DOESN'T need augmentation' camp.
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jessie voigts Apr 23, 2006, 12:32am EDT
sandy - i fell out laughing over this one, as well as the comments! what a hoot. i thought i had big ones til i got PG and was nursing lillie when she was born. jesus. my back could go out at any minute, and i'd fall over on my face, gravity taking its toll. no thanks. to the girls that don't have to wear a bra, i am supremely envious!!
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California Yankee Apr 23, 2006, 12:44am EDT
Bert has a valid point, men have no business posting in this comment thread. But I have to say I enjoyed reading the article and the comments.
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Sandy (Site Psychic™) Knauer Apr 23, 2006, 12:55am EDT
Jessie, thanks for laughing. It's one of my favorite sounds. My sympathy over the nursing situation. I can't imagine, personally, but rode to work with a girl in that condition for awhile. She could hardly get those things in her little Vega, and some days cried with pain on the way home.

Zenith, If we can get a brave man to hang around, I'll tell you what I'd do and they can tell you whether it would work or not. I'd just grab hold of that penis and say, "I'll hold this until your stop staring." My experience has been that men like that when it's done for the wrong reason about as much as women like being ogled by the wrong person.

California, thanks for dropping in. Please, say what you want. You can be sure if you wrote an article about penis size, we'd all be there with our comments.
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Sam C. Apr 23, 2006, 1:19am EDT
Ever hear the Bette Middler routine where she claim the bra was invented by a fellow named "Titschling?"
Jane C. Jul 22, 2009, 8:37am EDT
Sam, I remember that routine! I've watched that video a number of times, but it's been years . . . . sometime I should see if I can get it on Netflix. I regret not having gone to see her Vegas show.
Sandy (Site Psychic™) Knauer Jul 22, 2009, 11:45am EDT
Here's where threaded comments can be a real problem. Thought I'd never find you, Jane. Thanks for reading!
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Sandy (Site Psychic™) Knauer Apr 23, 2006, 1:31am EDT
No, Sam, But as soon as I read this I could hear her say it. Thanks for the laugh. I miss Bette. What's she up to?
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James Moylan Apr 23, 2006, 4:31am EDT
My daughter has just started wearing training bras and I laughed out loud when I read of Viockie's reaction. My precious did much the same and had to be argued out of wearing the damn thing to bed.
Thanks for this insight into 'secret womens business'.
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Stephen Schneider Apr 23, 2006, 9:45am EDT
I love breasts in all shapes and sizes. Bras? not so much
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Aileen F. Apr 23, 2006, 10:33am EDT
Sandy, I never wanted breasts! Mine showed up in 5th grade, and two older neighbor girls came and told my mom I needed a bra! Never had a training bra, didn't have to worry about wedgies until recently. I can't figure it out - with so much to hold a bra in place, how does it keep riding up???
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0000-twobraincells-0000 Apr 23, 2006, 10:48am EDT
If a woman got a tattoo of a set of eyes on her breasts would men still be able to look at them????
Amusing article. Bras...or as Kostanza called them "manziers"
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Christina F Apr 23, 2006, 10:49am EDT
Ah, Sandy loved this article and have been laughing my way through all the comments. Myself, you ask? Well, really more a really early starter as well as an early stopper. While I hate the bra, I must say the peice of uncomfortable women's clothing i refuse to wear is panty hose.... So itchy, so itchy and in all the wrong arenas!
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Donald McCullough Apr 23, 2006, 11:25am EDT
The line that jumped out at me:
"And if a man thought it up, women were stupid to listen to him."
I bet it was, and I couldn't agree more.
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Skipster Too Apr 23, 2006, 11:48am EDT
Two points to Sam C. for intimate knowedge about a top-ten chick flick: Beaches and the song about Otto Titslinger. Bonus points available for the following question: Did you cry?

But, ladies - a bra wedgie? I'm lost.
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Cena W. Apr 23, 2006, 11:50am EDT
Poignant memories, because the writing works.
And the comments . . .
We do love to know what each other thinks/remembers
Donald, It has been told that Howard n Hughes Invented the Bra for Jayne Russell
Before that My Grandmother, a flapper with too much front said that, girls with big ones bound them flat, for the fashions of that day.
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Bert B. Apr 23, 2006, 1:07pm EDT
Sandy et al,
My comment about "men not allowed to post" was not serious. I was just pointing ou that men could not relate to what it's like to have those two things hanging out there in front. I mean, we have our own hangers, and women can't imagine what that's like either, I would think.
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Done...cancelled...gather is not for ME Cancelled Apr 23, 2006, 1:23pm EDT
Too funny! This is another example of the comments being just as entertaining as the article!!!

I'm sorry, but I'm one of those weird girls that actually is happy with her boobage. I've never met a bra that I didn't like, either. But don't tell, because I'll bitch about it right along with the rest of womankind.
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Carl Neeld Apr 23, 2006, 1:42pm EDT
I don't know why bras are needed anyway. My boobs are bigger than my wife's and I've never worn one.
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Skipster Too Apr 23, 2006, 1:52pm EDT
...and Carl is the one that get's to go topless in that couple!?!
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Sandy (Site Psychic™) Knauer Apr 23, 2006, 1:53pm EDT
James – LOL.. give your precious a little time, she'll decide that's not the most comfortable way to sleep.

Stephen – don't forget you can use them to carry your apples, or as slingshots, or to tie down the trunk lid when you have a big load.

Aileen – that's the real question. Someone here can surely find the answer.

John – another great question. I think you guys will have to answer it for us.

Christina – I'm loving the comments! My breasts haven't had this much attention since … well, ever.

Donald – Thanks! So if you agree, does this mean you look at saggy-breasted, braless old women like me and think "smart lady" instead of "hopeless old hippy?"

EB – Beaches is one of my favorite movies. That's where the Bette line came from? I'll have to get it out and watch for that. I'm lost on the wedgie, too…. Thought it might involve cleavage, which leaves me out.

Cena – thanks! My grandmother told me binding stories too. Ouch!

Bert – I didn't take you seriously. I know you better ;-) And no, I can't imagine what it's like to carry your hanger either.

Hannah – the comments are the best part! I love when we can all join together and discuss an important topic like this. No need to apologize – and you can't be alone in your love of the bra, or there wouldn't be whole stores dedicated to them.
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Sandy (Site Psychic™) Knauer Apr 23, 2006, 1:55pm EDT
CARL - ROFLOL!!!!!
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Carla S. Apr 23, 2006, 3:00pm EDT
My newest thought on this whole article is why are they called training bras? I mean what are we training exactly?
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Edward Nudelman Apr 23, 2006, 3:01pm EDT
I love Bert's comment. Problem is, you posted a comment. I think this was a hilariously well-written and "intimate" treatise on.. well, you know what! I am the youngest of three kids, with two older sisters, so I knew all there was to know way too earlier... including the all the "bra songs".
As for Hannah's boobage, I'll not even go near i! Nice article, Sandy.
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Bert B. Apr 23, 2006, 3:27pm EDT
Hey, you're right, Edward. (pssst...that was the joke.)
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Cena W. Apr 23, 2006, 3:48pm EDT
Sandy,
What a delicious list of comments you generated with that memory.
I had to come back to read the comments this time.
Thanks for the laughs ya'll!
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Donald McCullough Apr 23, 2006, 4:09pm EDT
Since when do "smart lady" and "hopeless old hippy" have to be mutually exclusive?
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Sandy (Site Psychic™) Knauer Apr 23, 2006, 5:05pm EDT
Carla, apparently, we were training them to stay in place. Mine didn't learn, so I didn't graduate to a real cup.

Ed, thanks! Ahhh, bra songs. We must, we must, we must increase our bust, the bigger the better the tighter the sweater, the boys will look at us.. that one? Or do you have others? Print the lyrics and we can all sing along.

Bert - thanks for coming back (and not commenting LOL)

Cena - This feels like a slumber party.

Donald - I think I love you, wise man.
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Sandy (Site Psychic™) Knauer Apr 23, 2006, 7:10pm EDT
Thanks, Maureen! Thank goodness for sports bras.. the trainer for everyone ;-)
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Sam C. Apr 23, 2006, 8:41pm EDT
As a addicted wordsmith I'm drawn to interesting nomenclature. "Boobage." I like that one. "Training Bra." Another good one loaded with meaning. (I was going write "pregnant" with meaning but resisted.) "Fried eggs." "Melons," or "Melon experience." "Mosquito Bites." Hmmmm. Only girls can use most of these terms.

E.B. I don't cry at chick flicks. Bambi got me, Dumbo where Mama rocks baby Dumbo and Ole Yeller every time, dammit. And every press conference George has ever done.
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Dawn M Apr 23, 2006, 8:42pm EDT
Sandy, thanks for a great and entertaining story. I love all of the comments as well. It is a shame that we can't have them evenly distributed amongst us. lol I for one, would certainly be willing to share part of what I have. Forget about appearances, I have not yet found a bra that fits properly without ravelling all up or being uncomfortable. What's more being blessed with bigger boobs isn't a blessing at all. It's totally uncomfortable and causes a lot of pain in the shoulders, back and neck areas. It was a source of ridicule for me in school as I was well endowed by the age of 10, and now even more so with age. I hurt for my daughter who has also been 'blessed or cursed' depending on how you look upon it. How can I not when I listen to my 14 yr. old asking about breast reduction, and remember her tears after being ridiculed at school several years ago.
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Serina Matteson Apr 24, 2006, 12:23am EDT
Sandy, I am about to wet myself. ROFLMAO. And Carl and EB really got me. Your article was hilarious and has caused a riot of comedy. I am an odd ball like Hannah. Personally I'm pretty happy with boobs. I don't know why since they seem pretty useless. Thanks for the great laugh.
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Madame Donna C. Apr 24, 2006, 12:59am EDT
Ok, you asked for boob songs: "Do you boobs hang low, do they wobble to and fro?, Can you tie 'em in knot, can you tie 'em in bow, Do your boobs hang low? LOL, there ya go. Great article...still laughing.
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Donald H. Apr 24, 2006, 6:16am EDT
From a guy's perspective I can only that this was an eye-opener! Enjoyed it more than you know! thanks for the illumination!
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Done...cancelled...gather is not for ME Cancelled Apr 24, 2006, 11:23am EDT
But Serina, they AREN'T useless. They are good for causing accidents, making men slobber, and balancing out the hips.
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Sandy (Site Psychic™) Knauer Apr 24, 2006, 11:42am EDT
Donald - thanks, and cute comments!
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Craig Olson Apr 24, 2006, 2:36pm EDT
I'm trying to keep abreast of this. Perhaps the police are looking for a bust?
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Elizabeth D. Apr 24, 2006, 5:50pm EDT
Classic! I love this story
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Sandy (Site Psychic™) Knauer Apr 24, 2006, 9:25pm EDT
Cute, Craig! Thanks for reading. And thank you, Elizabeth!
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Donna Besso Apr 24, 2006, 10:11pm EDT
Boobs. Ugh. I've had a hysterectomy, almost three years ago. Alas, my boobs have dimineshed to a size that is no longer encombersome.My bra still rides up to my chin, and I constantley adjust it, (hold on it is interferring once again with my ability to write) Alas, they have shriveld up , and when I lay down are invisible.
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Sandy (Site Psychic™) Knauer Apr 25, 2006, 12:14am EDT
LOL.. Donna.. take that thing off when you type! It's dangerous. I think you should write your own breast story ;-) Thanks for reading.
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Bert B. Apr 25, 2006, 1:28am EDT
Or to paraphrase Al Jolson:
Mammary, how I love ya, how I love ya
Dear, dear old mammary
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Summer Foovay Apr 25, 2006, 3:53am EDT
Got headlights young and stayed there. Hated bras from day one and abandoned them the moment I could get away with it. Nursed a baby and went to 44DD overnight and about had a heart attack. I was praying they'd go away, the ex- was praying they stayed. I won. Happily back to headlights until I was in my 40s then the weight gain did me in. The hubby loves them, I hate them, and now I have to wear bras (yes, I successfully avoided them for 30+ years!) oh how I hate bras. Sport bras, that's all I can stand...I'd have them chopped off if it wouldn't break the hubby's heart. (And they're only up to maybe a C cup - lol)
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Betty K. Apr 25, 2006, 10:45am EDT
Jessie and Summer seem to be the only people at all involved in what breasts are for! how amazing to be able to carry around nourishment for a little baby and not have to bother with bottles and picnic coolers and other stuff. Having said that--once when I had grown some pretty big boobs and then lost a lot of weight, I found I could clap the remaining double appendages by moving my arms vigorously. It was fun.
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Sandy (Site Psychic™) Knauer Apr 25, 2006, 12:46pm EDT
Bert, you think like my last husband. He was a professional musician who once sang a 'mammary' song when some groupies stood in front of the stage and flashed him. That wasn't the song.. can't remember now which it was, but he substituted mammory for the word memory in the song.

Summer - oh my.. DD is so far from anything I can relate to that my first thought was oil.

Betty - We want videos of the clapping appendages!! LOL Again, my mind goes in a different direction. I used powdered formula - light, easy, room temperature, and unlike breasts, I could set it down or let the husband carry it.

Sadi - thanks for reading, and bringing up the risk. DON'T FORGET THE MAMMOGRAMS EVERYONE!!
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0000-erniezarraphd-0000 Apr 25, 2006, 5:41pm EDT
I was so out of it while in school, I thought the girls caught a glimpse of my report card when they were talking about Cs and Ds. Man, now I find out the real truth . . . hahahaha
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0000-doublel-0000 Apr 25, 2006, 9:20pm EDT
Sandy this was so funny, the story and the comments, especially from the men lol. I think I'm in the minority with Hannah. I like wearing a bra and Victoria's Secret is one of my favorite stores. They are much more comfortable now and no underwires! Anything that makes my boobs look perkier is a-ok with me. And yes, the girls serve several purposes ;-).
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Sandy (Site Psychic™) Knauer Apr 25, 2006, 9:41pm EDT
Erinie - LOL.. thanks for reminding me I DID hit C and even D a time or two.

Laurie - thanks for reading. The comments have made this so much fun! I went to the doctor today and found out I've gained 12 pounds, and of course most of it goes right there.. so I might tag along on your next trip to VS and see if they can fix me up with something not toooo terribly miserable.. no underwire you say?
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0000-doublel-0000 Apr 25, 2006, 10:11pm EDT
There's only one word you need to know, Sandy. IPEX! It's so comfortable.
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Barbary Chaapel Apr 25, 2006, 11:01pm EDT
Sandy,

You've done it again.....been your hilarious self! Great article and comments. The title must have drawn the men in.
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Gisela S. Apr 25, 2006, 11:20pm EDT
Sandy - I'm still laughing.....

I'm ambivalent about "the twins" - but grateful that Fred still offers to be a "human brassiere" when I start complaining about underwires and such. I'm over forty and hold no illusions about the power of gravity!
Of course...he tends to make that offer before his contacts are in....
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Sandy (Site Psychic™) Knauer Apr 25, 2006, 11:43pm EDT
Laurie - thanks for the magic word!

Barbary - thank you! I did feel a bit manipulative when I used that title ;-)

Gisela - You have twins?? Please tell me they aren't identical! I don't want to have to resent you for being that one woman who has breasts the same size. And if we could just all be so lucky as to have a Fred to help carry those twins.. how sweeet.
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Gisela S. Apr 26, 2006, 12:14am EDT
Sandy - Nah - definitely FRATERNAL. As for Fred and his Playtex performance....don't encourage him. After a couple glasses of good cab, that man will do almost anything in public!
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mike king Apr 26, 2006, 1:26am EDT
I enjoyed your post. You are a good writer. North America is unique for its obsession with female anatomy, in my trav els in other parts of the world it is not such a big deal and big breasts are looked upon as an encumberence rather than sexual toys by men as well as women. I suppose alot of it has to do with expectations. In my family such things were considered not as important as brains, good grades, and which university to attend. So, I never got into worshipping at the alter of sexuality, mine or anyone elses. Not that sex isn't great. Thanks again.
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Sandy (Site Psychic™) Knauer Apr 26, 2006, 1:42am EDT
Mike, thanks for reading, and for bringing up a serious, and important issue. I agree that our society has missed the mark with some weird sexual views (I attacked it from my very biased political stance in my article War On Sex), and am getting ready to tackle it briefly in another piece I'm working on from the standpoint of women feeding right into the behavior they complain men demonstrate. My family sounds like yours... we did not hide or giggle about body parts, and who we were was the focus. The only time my breasts got this much attention before was when I got a standing ovation at the car wash. A sleezy guy hit on me and I ignored him. He finally shouted for the whole crowded place to hear, "I wasn't really interested, you don't even have any tits." To which I responded, "Lucky me, they only attract boobs like you." After everyone finished cheering, they threw him off the lot, without washing his car.
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Betty K. Apr 26, 2006, 7:45am EDT
Sandy, your explanation of how easy it is to feed babies nowadays reminded me of how long ago I was doing it. Back in the early '50s, if you wanted or had to provide the tiny ones with anything but breast milk, you had to go through a tedious and time-consuming process of sterilizing a lot of glass bottles and rubber nipples. The filled, sterilized bottles had to be stored in a cold place, and then rewarmed to just the right temperature range. There were no microwave ovens to pop them into. So, back then, breasts were by far the most convenient (and least expensive) way to feed young'uns. These days I watch two of my granddaughters nursing their babies and think it's still a neat natural provision.
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Sandy (Site Psychic™) Knauer Apr 26, 2006, 10:53pm EDT
Hi, Betty! Thanks for coming back. I remember how much more difficult things were when my sister (eleven years younger than I) was born. By the time I had my first one, the powdered formula had come out. I still sterilized bottles, nipples, and the water I used to mix the formula, but I served it at room temperature so I didn't need to refrigerate or warm bottles. I seldom use a microwave for anything, but especially not for anything I'm feeding a small child. I worked when mine were babies, and this was easiest for me and their fathers who were at home with them. I think it's great now that women have more choices (breast pumps at work, etc) and can decide what works best in their situation.
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Carol P. Apr 27, 2006, 12:44am EDT
I loved the article and had a hard time to quite laughing at the comments. I never really had to wear a bra until after I had my first baby and nursed her. Like some of the rest of you ladies it comes off as soon as I am in the door(home). I hate them, only where them when leaving the house. As for breast being the same size-for me after nursing, 1 is definitely bigger than the other. Did my greedy, starving son eat more from that side?? I do not know. Thanks for the conversations!
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Sandy (Site Psychic™) Knauer Apr 27, 2006, 12:59am EDT
Thanks, Carol! Glad you enjoyed this. The comments have been a real party!
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Priscilla (wishing I was in Costa Rica) ~. Apr 27, 2006, 7:51pm EDT
What a great post, I really enjoyed reading it...even though I have opted to get implants myself.
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Jennaphyr Vine Apr 27, 2006, 10:49pm EDT
cute story! I can relate... When I was young I wanted to get "Aunt Flow" to come visit as soon as possible too... what was I thinking?#$#
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Sandy (Site Psychic™) Knauer Apr 27, 2006, 11:03pm EDT
Thanks, Priscilla and Jennaphyr - now each of you have an article to write... we could have a great time with implants and Aunt Flow LOL.. Jennaphyr what WERE you thinking??
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Sandy (Site Psychic™) Knauer Apr 28, 2006, 5:03pm EDT
Gretel - I didn't train much of anything with mine ;-)
I can't talk about girdles unless I want to let everyone know how truly weird I was.
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Sandy (Site Psychic™) Knauer Apr 29, 2006, 12:24pm EDT
Mike, I think you're the first one to catch that! Were I to wear one these days, that's almost where I'd need it.
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Benita K. Apr 29, 2006, 8:54pm EDT
A great read Sandy and all the comments.

Frankly speaking mine have always been a source of enjoyment and I hope for my partner/s. But I don't know a Frank. Now I could tell you my nickname when many years ago I worked at a Freezing Works. I never admitted to having heard it. There are more ways of skinning a cat. No one likes being seen as a sex object. And the lads on the floor soon got the message.

Seriously, it worries me that two granddaughters are truly unhappy with their size. I've fluctuated on size according to weight.
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Clare Stella Apr 29, 2006, 11:32pm EDT
If you have large breasts wearing a sports bra is like having a muskrat strapped to your chest.
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Sandy (Site Psychic™) Knauer Apr 30, 2006, 2:09pm EDT
Benita - you know you can't leave us hanging like that. What's the name? I hate that people are unhappy enough with their size to let it trouble them, unless it's a person whose enormous size is causing pain and health problems.

Clare - LOL.. I'd never thought about it that way.

Gretel - Thanks for the chuckle - hadn't thought about Gomer in a long while. I like weird. And I accept the challenge. I will work on the girdle article. Give me a few days.
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Jana B. Apr 30, 2006, 3:52pm EDT
LOL. One of my favorite moments is when my daughter was an infant. All the out-of-town famiily, including my teenage nephew, had come to our place to meet the baby. I can still see my nephew's enormous, alarmed brown eyes when I announced that it was time to go nurse the baby!
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Benita K. Apr 30, 2006, 6:48pm EDT
Now Sandy, I doubt there'd be much of an uplift, for me or for you if I did divulge. Gosh, remember the days when everything was uplift.
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Sandy (Site Psychic™) Knauer Apr 30, 2006, 9:49pm EDT
Jana, cute! It's fun to watch kids in that situation, but sometimes even more fun to watch adults try not to see someone nursing.

Benita, uplift? I think I could use one now. ;-)

Mike, I'm thinking Clare either just told on herself, or she has a good source.

Where the heck is Becky?
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Shava Nerad Apr 30, 2006, 9:50pm EDT
Oh, my... Rachel Levine and I were the only two girls with really big sets in my high school, and we thought it was funny that in Drama we always got the older bitch parts. I haven't thought of that in years.

See, I've found, being over-endowed, that most men figure two things when they see a woman with a big rack. If she's not brilliant, then all the blood must be rushing to her chest (kind of like being blond, but different). And if she *is* brilliant (or anything approaching it) then she must be a total beeeach.

I've never understood it. It's not like we have bosomy jokes like we have blond jokes, but I've heard the same experience from hundreds of brickhouse women.

I mean, we couldn't *all* be bitches, could we? :)

p.s. The lactation consultant said they'd get smaller after my son was weaned. *HAH* No sports bra or muskrat in the world could convince me to go jogging anymore.
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Sandy (Site Psychic™) Knauer Apr 30, 2006, 9:57pm EDT
Shava, thanks for a whole new perspective LOL... No, you are not a bitch. Nor is Becky (who has avoided this topic for some reason), or my daughter. The three of you are intelligent, nice, and fun. Men just lose THEIR minds when they see those things.
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Dickie Cox Apr 30, 2006, 11:22pm EDT
Sandy, I just discovered your article and it's hilarious! My wife was a petite, small breasted woman and when our first child was on the way and her chest size was changing, I was teasing her one evening about how wonderful it was that the "Tittie Farie" had come, and without missing a beat she said, in a soft, sexy voice, "Mmm,yeah, now if we could only get the "Penis Farie" to show up!"
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Plain ol' Becky S. May 1, 2006, 12:08am EDT
Okay...I finally showed up. I wasn't avoiding the topic...I was just.....Um...out being a bitch. : )
I got my first bra when I was 9. I hated it and I cried as my grandmother was trying it on me, so as a consolation prize she bought me a Donny Osmond album. It didn't help.
My problem is not so much the "boobage" (great word), so much.

Okay...that's not true...it is the boobage. I'm a smallish woman and I have a rather large chest. Sandy can attest that I am, indeed, not bragging.

I've nursed 4 kids and the only thing that's happened is that they have gotten larger and gravity has taken it's toll.

I am 5' 2'' tall.(I swear, Sandy, I have gained an inch...I don't know how. I was just measured at the doctor's office last week.) When my husband and I met, I was 24 years old, and I weighed 125-130 pounds. I wore a size 32 FF bra.

I just bought a new bra last week. I weigh a bit more than 125...like almost 100 pounds more...but my new bra was a 38 LL. (Sandy put me up to this : ) )

If I hadn't just had gall bladder surgery, I was going to do the reduction this summer. As it is, I have a year to lose some more weight and will get the reduction next summer.

Dickie...I like your wife. : )
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Mark Jepsen May 1, 2006, 12:15am EDT
What a wonderful story! I've been laughing all the way down through the comments, although I have to say that Carl did put a serious downer on the imagery I was enjoying in my mind! Carl, do the letters 'T.M.I.' mean anything to you! Thanks for an enjoyable read.
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Sandy (Site Psychic™) Knauer May 1, 2006, 12:16am EDT
WHEW! Is that a load off MY chest (pun intended). I've wanted to talk about your bra size since this started... I had never heard double letters, or letters above D before I met you.

"I'm a smallish woman and I have a rather large chest" ha ha ha ha ha... is that an understatement... rather large. She got mine, my sister's, and six of my best friends' share.

Thanks, Becky. I wasn't going to talk about you until you said it yourself.
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